Wisconsin Gov. Walker refuses to answer evolution question

[Soul Crusher]

Holy jesus you are that stupid? you have literally no critical thinking skills and clearly no absolutely NOTHING about evolution if you are asking such a retarded question.

Got a link I can look at? 

[Kazan]

[blacken700]

Holy jesus you are that stupid? you have literally no critical thinking skills and clearly no absolutely NOTHING about evolution if you are asking such a retarded question.

Cut them some slack,you have to remember these are FOX EDUCATED people they only know what's spoon feed to them by the FOX NEWS channel.as Pat Buchanan said "THE DUMBING DOWN OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY"

[Archer77]

Mabye he's afraid if he reveals his religious perspective on creation he might become a target of a lefty who is particularly territorial over parking spaces

[dario73]

Holy jesus you are that stupid? you have literally no critical thinking skills and clearly no absolutely NOTHING about evolution if you are asking such a retarded question.

Provide a link to a photo or video where ANYONE has viewed a NATURAL OCCURRING evolutionary process that has increased the  information in the genome.

Lab assisted mutations don't count.

Since evolution is supposedly true and the earth has been here millions of years, evolution must still be occurring all around us. You must have thousands of examples.

[Soul Crusher]

Cut them some slack,you have to remember these are FOX EDUCATED people they only know what's spoon feed to them by the FOX NEWS channel.as Pat Buchanan said "THE DUMBING DOWN OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY"

So where are you on the evolutionary tract ?

[James]

240 left out the link on purpose.

If you read the entire article you will see all he is saying is he is not going to push his religious beliefs on anyone else, leaving it up to you to decide: "That's a question a politician shouldn't be involved in one way or the other. So I'm going to leave that up to you."
also:
"Both science and my faith dictate my belief that we are created by God,"

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/02/11/us/ap-us-gop-2016-walker-london.html

[Straw Man]

240 left out the link on purpose.

If you read the entire article you will see all he is saying is he is not going to push his religious beliefs on anyone else, leaving it up to you to decide: "That's a question a politician shouldn't be involved in one way or the other. So I'm going to leave that up to you."
also:
"Both science and my faith dictate my belief that we are created by God,"

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/02/11/us/ap-us-gop-2016-walker-london.html

Science(in part) dictates his belief that we are created by God ?

there's a statement begging for a follow up question

[Archer77]

Science(in part) dictates his belief that we are created by God ?

there's a statement begging for a follow up question

Obama said something similar to that.  Obama punted when he was asked about abortion in the 2008 and 2012 debates in much the same way as Walker punted on the question of evolution. If you are to believe Axelrod Obama lied about his faith and gay marriage.  Politicians do this kind of stuff.  You can call Walker an idiot but at least acknowledge the hypocrisy of your own actions. 

[Straw Man]

Obama said something similar to that.  Obama punted when he was asked about abortion in the 2008 and 2012 debates in much the same way as Walker punted on the question of evolution. If you are to believe Axelrod Obama lied about his faith and gay marriage.  Politicians do this kind of stuff.  You can call Walker an idiot but at least acknowledge the hypocrisy of your own actions. 

I don't recall calling Walker an idiot but please provide the quotes from Obama and I'll join you in mocking it

[Archer77]

I don't recall calling Walker an idiot but please provide the quotes from Obama and I'll join you in mocking it

Your intention is to mock Walker for his beliefs.  Obama has talked repeatedly about his faith and used his faith to explain his actions.  Obama quotes the bible regularly.   Obama attended a racist church for twenty years.   I'm not religious and I agree evolution is true but this kind of one sided mocking is silly.

[Straw Man]

Your intention is to mock Walker for his beliefs.  Obama has talked repeatedly about his faith and used his faith to explain his actions.  Obama quotes the bible regularly.   Obama attended a racist church for twenty years.   I'm not religious and I agree evolution is true but this kind of one sided mocking is silly.

and I'll mock Obama if you'll provide the quote that you claim he made

btw - I would be fine if we kept all religious questions (and that's what this was) out of politics

would you be fine with that?

[Archer77]

and I'll mock Obama if you'll provide the quote that you claim he made

btw - I would be fine if we kept all religious questions (and that's what this was) out of politics

would you be fine with that?

Barack Obama In 2008: Bible's Account Of God Creating Earth 'Essentially True' (VIDEO)
Nick Wing  
The Huffington Post Posted: 11/21/12 12:58 PM ET Updated: 11/21/12 03:01 PM ET
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) took some flak earlier this week for playing coy with a question in a GQ interview about how old the Earth was, calling the question a "great mystery" that he was unqualified to answer because of his lack of scientific credentials.

Well, as Slate's Daniel Engber notes, it turns out that the junior senator is not alone in his apparent move to avoid rousing the ire of the nearly 50 percent of Americans who believe in creationism, or the 30 percent who believe the Bible should be taken literally. Such a move was repeated by another junior senator in 2008. That man was Barack Obama, and he was trying to become the next president of the U.S.

Here's then-Illinois Sen. Obama's exchange with CNN's Campbell Brown at a forum on faith in politics:

Brown: Senator, if one of your daughters asked you -- and maybe they already have -- “Daddy, did God really create the world in 6 days?,” what would you say?
Obama: I'm trying to remember if we've had this conversation. You know, what I've said to them is that I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it, it may not be 24-hour days, and that's what I believe. I know there's always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don't, and that I think it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part. My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live -- that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true. Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible. That, I don't presume to know.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2170810


This is nearly identical to the answer Huckabee gave

[Archer77]

Rubios answer too. Sound familiar

: I’m not a scientist, man. I can tell you what recorded history says, I can tell you what the Bible says, but I think that’s a dispute amongst theologians and I think it has nothing to do with the gross domestic product or economic growth of the United States. I think the age of the universe has zero to do with how our economy is going to grow. I’m not a scientist. I don’t think I’m qualified to answer a question like that. At the end of the day, I think there are multiple theories out there on how the universe was created and I think this is a country where people should have the opportunity to teach them all. I think parents should be able to teach their kids what their faith says, what science says. Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I’m not sure we’ll ever be able to answer that. It’s one of the great mysteries.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2012/11/rubio_and_obama_and_the_age_of_earth_politicians_hedge_about_whether_universe.html

[Archer77]

http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/08/obama-talks-about-his-faith-132696.html


In an interview with the Washington National Cathedral magazine, President Obama discussed how his faith influenced his politics — saying that at the end of the day 'God is in control.'
“First and foremost, my Christian faith gives me a perspective and security that I don’t think I would have otherwise: that I am loved. That, at the end of the day, God is in control," Obama said.
Obama also tied faith in God to his belief in a compassionate role for government.
(Also on POLITICO: Poll: More know Romney’s religion than Obama’s)
"Faith tells us that there is something about this world that ties our interest to the welfare of a child who can’t get the health care they need, or a parent who can’t find work after the plant shut down, or a family going hungry," Obama told the magazine.
"Faith has always provided a moral framework and vocabulary for this country to come to terms with its most pressing challenges. One of the great things about this nation is that it is a place where people from all walks of life can advocate on behalf of their faith and beliefs and be open about what drives and motivates them," Obama said.

[Straw Man]

Barack Obama In 2008: Bible's Account Of God Creating Earth 'Essentially True' (VIDEO)
Nick Wing  
The Huffington Post Posted: 11/21/12 12:58 PM ET Updated: 11/21/12 03:01 PM ET
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) took some flak earlier this week for playing coy with a question in a GQ interview about how old the Earth was, calling the question a "great mystery" that he was unqualified to answer because of his lack of scientific credentials.

Well, as Slate's Daniel Engber notes, it turns out that the junior senator is not alone in his apparent move to avoid rousing the ire of the nearly 50 percent of Americans who believe in creationism, or the 30 percent who believe the Bible should be taken literally. Such a move was repeated by another junior senator in 2008. That man was Barack Obama, and he was trying to become the next president of the U.S.

Here's then-Illinois Sen. Obama's exchange with CNN's Campbell Brown at a forum on faith in politics:

Brown: Senator, if one of your daughters asked you -- and maybe they already have -- “Daddy, did God really create the world in 6 days?,” what would you say?
Obama: I'm trying to remember if we've had this conversation. You know, what I've said to them is that I believe that God created the universe and that the six days in the Bible may not be six days as we understand it, it may not be 24-hour days, and that's what I believe. I know there's always a debate between those who read the Bible literally and those who don't, and that I think it's a legitimate debate within the Christian community of which I'm a part. My belief is that the story that the Bible tells about God creating this magnificent Earth on which we live -- that is essentially true, that is fundamentally true. Now, whether it happened exactly as we might understand it reading the text of the Bible. That, I don't presume to know.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2170810


This is nearly identical to the answer Huckabee gave

that's actually a pretty well parsed answer for Obama given that the question is basically a political hand grenade

If a christian wants to say they believe we were created by God I have no problem with that.   They are entitled to their own religious beliefs just like everyone else.

When they start saying that science supports their belief that's another thing entirely

I didn't notice Obama saying anything about "science" supporting or dictating his belief that we were created by God

[Archer77]

that's actually a pretty well parsed answer for Obama given that the question is basically a political hand grenade

If a christian wants to say they believe we were created by God I have no problem with that.   They are entitled to their own religious beliefs just like everyone else.

When they start saying that science supports their belief that's another thing entirely

I didn't notice Obama saying anything about "science" supporting or dictating his belief that we were created by God

Seriously, you're hopeless man.  He's saying got created the universe.

[Straw Man]

Seriously, you're hopeless man.  He's saying got created the universe.

Again, I'm fine with that

He's entitled to his religious beliefs and he certainly didn't claim something idiotic like the earth is 5000 years old

He didn't say Science proves/supports/dictates that God created the man or the universe

I asked you a question and I'll ask again then I need to go to a meeting

 I would be fine if we kept all religious questions (and that's what this was) out of politics

would you be fine with that?

[Archer77]

Again, I'm fine with that

He's entitled to his religious beliefs and he certainly didn't claim something idiotic like the earth is 5000 years old

He didn't say Science proves/supports/dictates that God created the man or the universe

I asked you a question and I'll ask again then I need to go to a meeting

 I would be fine if we kept all religious questions (and that's what this was) out of politics

would you be fine with that?

You can't believe in creation and evolution without also believing god is responsible for evolution.  There should be no religious test of office.  This was Walker's entire point of not answering the question.

[James]

"That's a question a politician shouldn't be involved in one way or the other. So I'm going to leave that up to you." - Scot Walker

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/02/11/us/ap-us-gop-2016-walker-london.html


Does anyone on here disagree?

[Archer77]

"That's a question a politician shouldn't be involved in one way or the other. So I'm going to leave that up to you." - Scot Walker

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/02/11/us/ap-us-gop-2016-walker-london.html


Does anyone on here disagree?

It's fair to ask him if he advocates teaching creationism in public schools.

[Straw Man]

You can't believe in creation and evolution without also believing god is responsible for evolution.  There should be no religious test of office.  This was Walker's entire point of not answering the question.

No Shit Sherlock

I assume if you're a christian that you believe in God

My point was about Walker saying science supports his religious beliefs

how many times have I said this now?

My question was not about a "religious test" but about answering questions about religion or anything to do with it

I'd be fine if we just didn't make that part of the political conversation at all

[Necrosis]

Provide a link to a photo or video where ANYONE has viewed a NATURAL OCCURRING evolutionary process that has increased the  information in the genome.

Lab assisted mutations don't count.

Since evolution is supposedly true and the earth has been here millions of years, evolution must still be occurring all around us. You must have thousands of examples.

You can't take evolution as a snapshot, it's a process, jesus.

Define evolution for me.

Sickle cell anemia, antibiotic resistence, viruses etc.

[Necrosis]

"That's a question a politician shouldn't be involved in one way or the other. So I'm going to leave that up to you." - Scot Walker

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/02/11/us/ap-us-gop-2016-walker-london.html


Does anyone on here disagree?

Yes I disagree, this indicates that he is of low IQ. Smart people often have knowledge in many areas, to not understand the backbone of all of BIOLOGY that is taught in grade seven is absurd. He is unaware of facts, large demonstrable facts. It's like asking does gravity exist

[Necrosis]

Got a link I can look at? 

http://talkorigins.org/origins/outline.html#evolution

the evidence is so overwhelming that it in fact has crushed opponents in court, aka creationist morons.

There is no evidence in the history of recorded science/man that refutes it, everything we have found has only solidified it.

It predicts strongly, it predicts things like anti-biotic resistence for example, it predicts where fossils should be found, it predicts what species should have genetic closeness,  it's a fact. It occurs and is why we have so many species.

The argument you made and many make is why isn't there a half human half ape, WE ARE APES. A different type, like a lion is different from a housecat, there are no half lion, half housecats, because, they would be worse off and die off thus not passing along the genes.

Humans are great apes that share a long extinct ancestor with common apes. Evolution also takes a massively long time but maintains a slight progression, slight improvements over time. Why is everyone so against the idea? it's a fact. it's been proven.

The eye is a good example of evolution.