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China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« on: October 05, 2013, 03:22:23 PM »
1. A per capita GDP similar to such luminaries as Jamaica and Thailand, ranked #93 in the world.

2. Epic poverty:

Live less than $1.25 a day 13.1% (172 million)
Live less than $2 a day 29.8% (394 million)
Live less than $2.5 a day   39.9% (528 million)
Live less than $4 a day    62% (821 million)
Live less than $5 a day    71.6% (948 million)

An estimated 200 million people in China are homeless. Estimates tend to be conservative, and there will be many more in awful accommodation which can hardly be counted as homely.

3. Artificially stimulated GDP growth: there are entire ghost cities of empty apartment buildings with prices kept artificially high in a bid to at least maintain GDP growth, when in fact many of the goods and services contributing to these figures are neither needed nor wanted, hence not worth even remotely close to what they are claimed to be.

4. A crappy language: Mandarin is highly inefficient, takes ages to learn, and is worthless, since the only moderately well-off places in China are in big cities and generally speak good English. The opportunity cost of learning something like Mandarin is enormous.

5. A super high savings rate: seemingly an asset, the savings rate is a result of Chinese households recognizing that there aren't really social programs to prop them up in the event of disaster (the way some want it in the States), plus a conscious decision by central planners to pursue an export driven growth model.

The result is an unsustainable situation in which export-driven growth needs to be replaced with more domestic consumption, something it isn't clear the central planners will be able to pull off. Failure will in all probability lead to significant, possibly fatal social unrest (see (2) above) while success will mean significantly lower growth rates, quite the dilemma.

6. A largely unproven, shite military with low quality equipment and little R&D spending, plus an embarrassingly small class of the sorts of naval vessels that allow power projection abroad (read: ONE), a necessary but not sufficient capability for any superpower:





7. An overtly authoritarian model of thought control that stifles excellence in intellectual pursuits and thus technological/scientific advancement: Ireland has more nobel prize winners than China (9 vs 8; US=338), and China is known to imprison its own winners (see: Liu Xiaobo).

But yes, they are going to supersede the US and become a world superpower very, VERY soon. Say hello to your new overlords!  ::)

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2013, 03:23:04 PM »
Just a question tho.

How do they survive when the west stop buying their shit cause it is bankrupt?


A more toned down, realistic view is that they are indeed progressing after copying for decades the ways of the westerner/ russian man especially in the economic domain, but they are extremely fragile; 3/4 of their population is living in the dark age still. Yes their salaries and quality of life is progressing in the cities, but what when the west goes bankrupt and dont buy their crap anymore? Also their productivity has grown at the expense of health , their whole country is polluted beyond repair.
 Still I think they have something that will allow them to survive in the future; their ant like view of life/mankind. Occidentals, whites, westerners are disapearing because they became way too egocentrical after abandoning religion.  But the few who will remain will probably mix with chinese/ japanese. Simply because white and asian are superior to every other races on earth. 



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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2013, 03:36:36 PM »
Just a question tho.

How do they survive when the west stop buying their shit cause it is bankrupt?

The Chinese would need to rebalance towards domestic consumption, something many experts think they should already be doing right now (concurrent with a rebalancing by the US and Europe).

If what you say really happens, then I'd imagine a not insignificant chunk of those 948 million people living on less than $5 a day are going to get a little bit upset with their government, given that it allows them very little political rights but promises economic benefits in exchange. Even if 99% of these people remain on the sidelines, the Chinese government will be facing a rebellion larger than any military on earth.

I guess you see why they try to control everybody's minds so that no one thinks of such things.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2013, 03:38:38 PM »
Just a question tho.

How do they survive when the west stop buying their shit cause it is bankrupt?


A more toned down, realistic view is that they are indeed progressing after copying for decades the ways of the westerner/ russian man especially in the economic domain, but they are extremely fragile; 3/4 of their population is living in the dark age still. Yes their salaries and quality of life is progressing in the cities, but what when the west goes bankrupt and dont buy their crap anymore? Also their productivity has grown at the expense of health , their whole country is polluted beyond repair.
 Still I think they have something that will allow them to survive in the future; their ant like view of life/mankind. Occidentals, whites, westerners are disapearing because they became way too egocentrical after abandoning religion.  But the few who will remain will probably mix with chinese/ japanese. Simply because white and asian are superior to every other races on earth. 



haha yes. ant-like cloners. do not have the creative mind of the caucasian. ;D

just look at the asians domination on sites like ebay. shameless copying of the white mans work and then massproduced as a shit non-quality controlled product.

they do have an strong point in tenacity about them. but it's mostly annoying.

racist-rant over.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2013, 03:41:53 PM »
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The Chinese would need to rebalance towards domestic consumption, something many experts think they should already be doing right now (concurrent with a rebalancing by the US and Europe).

If what you say really happens, then I'd imagine a not insignificant chunk of those 948 million people living on less than $5 a day are going to get a little bit upset with their government, given that it allows them very little political rights but promises economic benefits in exchange. Even if 99% of these people remain on the sidelines, the Chinese government will be facing a rebellion larger than any military on earth.

I guess you see why they try to control everybody's minds so that no one thinks of such things.

You are dreaming. Chinese are numerous, but they re dumb, and so far their elites are just bleeding them dry just like all elites everywhere on the planet. They re not going anywhere and also do not forget they forge most of their statistics , datas, just like everyone else does in the west, but in even bigger proportions.
Their growth is nowhere near what they pretend it is. They have many, many problems that arent adressed. Fact is, even after a global collapse, (north) america -canada being imo just another state of the US- is still number one. Similarly, russia even if it progressed a lot under putin but mostly thanks to its natural ressources they sell to europe, is nowhere near being a realistic opponent for the US.

There s somewhat some self hartred in wishing a new master on earth in the person of chinese. As stated earlier, they re good at copying, not at creating. There is a HUGE difference between both. It's called Quality. Their military stuff for example is pure crap, it's not even as reliable as the russian tech it is copied from. Israel and the US with the help of the best european / russian minds still rule the game and it will never ever change.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2013, 03:50:01 PM »
haha yes. ant-like cloners. do not have the creative mind of the caucasian. ;D

just look at the asians domination on sites like ebay. shameless copying of the white mans work and then massproduced as a shit non-quality controlled product.

they do have an strong point in tenacity about them. but it's mostly annoying.

racist-rant over.

What have u done yourself for our fine white race sir?

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2013, 03:51:28 PM »
What have u done for our fine white race sir?
studying to become an engineer. other than that you don't know anything about what I have done and that's besides the point anyways.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2013, 03:54:38 PM »
studying to become an engineer. other than that you don't know anything about what I have done and that's besides the point anyways.

Please share

What have u done and contributed to help the white race?

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2013, 03:59:06 PM »
Please share

What have u done and contributed to help the white race?
you're a dumbass.

even if I was a janitor, garbage man or even on wellfare you wouldn't prove any point.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2013, 04:02:34 PM »
you're a dumbass.

even if I was a janitor, garbage man or even on wellfare you wouldn't prove any point.


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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2013, 04:08:02 PM »
asian bevo? struck a nerve eh. can't make everyone happy.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2013, 04:09:53 PM »
1. A per capita GDP similar to such luminaries as Jamaica and Thailand, ranked #93 in the world.

2. Epic poverty:

Live less than $1.25 a day 13.1% (172 million)
Live less than $2 a day 29.8% (394 million)
Live less than $2.5 a day   39.9% (528 million)
Live less than $4 a day    62% (821 million)
Live less than $5 a day    71.6% (948 million)

An estimated 200 million people in China are homeless. Estimates tend to be conservative, and there will be many more in awful accommodation which can hardly be counted as homely.

3. Artificially stimulated GDP growth: there are entire ghost cities of empty apartment buildings with prices kept artificially high in a bid to at least maintain GDP growth, when in fact many of the goods and services contributing to these figures are neither needed nor wanted, hence not worth even remotely close to what they are claimed to be.

4. A crappy language: Mandarin is highly inefficient, takes ages to learn, and is worthless, since the only moderately well-off places in China are in big cities and generally speak good English. The opportunity cost of learning something like Mandarin is enormous.

5. A super high savings rate: seemingly an asset, the savings rate is a result of Chinese households recognizing that there aren't really social programs to prop them up in the event of disaster (the way some want it in the States), plus a conscious decision by central planners to pursue an export driven growth model.

The result is an unsustainable situation in which export-driven growth needs to be replaced with more domestic consumption, something it isn't clear the central planners will be able to pull off. Failure will in all probability lead to significant, possibly fatal social unrest (see (2) above) while success will mean significantly lower growth rates, quite the dilemma.

6. A largely unproven, shite military with low quality equipment and little R&D spending, plus an embarrassingly small class of the sorts of naval vessels that allow power projection abroad (read: ONE), a necessary but not sufficient capability for any superpower:





7. An overtly authoritarian model of thought control that stifles excellence in intellectual pursuits and thus technological/scientific advancement: Ireland has more nobel prize winners than China (9 vs 8; US=338), and China is known to imprison its own winners (see: Liu Xiaobo).

But yes, they are going to supersede the US and become a world superpower very, VERY soon. Say hello to your new overlords!  ::)

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2013, 04:23:34 PM »
Don't forget that they stole the plans for the W88 thermonuclear warhead, our most advanced design, from Los Alamos. So they have that going for them.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2013, 04:26:37 PM »
China is assumed to be the future manufacturing plant of the world... let's see.
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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2013, 04:31:09 PM »
asian bevo? struck a nerve eh. can't make everyone happy.

I'm white ;)

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2013, 04:40:08 PM »
1. A per capita GDP similar to such luminaries as Jamaica and Thailand, ranked #93 in the world.

2. Epic poverty:

Live less than $1.25 a day 13.1% (172 million)
Live less than $2 a day 29.8% (394 million)
Live less than $2.5 a day   39.9% (528 million)
Live less than $4 a day    62% (821 million)
Live less than $5 a day    71.6% (948 million)

An estimated 200 million people in China are homeless. Estimates tend to be conservative, and there will be many more in awful accommodation which can hardly be counted as homely.

3. Artificially stimulated GDP growth: there are entire ghost cities of empty apartment buildings with prices kept artificially high in a bid to at least maintain GDP growth, when in fact many of the goods and services contributing to these figures are neither needed nor wanted, hence not worth even remotely close to what they are claimed to be.

4. A crappy language: Mandarin is highly inefficient, takes ages to learn, and is worthless, since the only moderately well-off places in China are in big cities and generally speak good English. The opportunity cost of learning something like Mandarin is enormous.

5. A super high savings rate: seemingly an asset, the savings rate is a result of Chinese households recognizing that there aren't really social programs to prop them up in the event of disaster (the way some want it in the States), plus a conscious decision by central planners to pursue an export driven growth model.

The result is an unsustainable situation in which export-driven growth needs to be replaced with more domestic consumption, something it isn't clear the central planners will be able to pull off. Failure will in all probability lead to significant, possibly fatal social unrest (see (2) above) while success will mean significantly lower growth rates, quite the dilemma.

6. A largely unproven, shite military with low quality equipment and little R&D spending, plus an embarrassingly small class of the sorts of naval vessels that allow power projection abroad (read: ONE), a necessary but not sufficient capability for any superpower:





7. An overtly authoritarian model of thought control that stifles excellence in intellectual pursuits and thus technological/scientific advancement: Ireland has more nobel prize winners than China (9 vs 8; US=338), and China is known to imprison its own winners (see: Liu Xiaobo).

But yes, they are going to supersede the US and become a world superpower very, VERY soon. Say hello to your new overlords!  ::)


Those numbers are very distorted because of the nature and structure of China.  Its a communist system so it does not matter regarding income per person....everyone is provided with food, water, shelter, education, health insurance, etc regardless. 

That being said, SuperPower is only a matter of having nuclear capability.
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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2013, 04:49:53 PM »
haha yes. ant-like cloners. do not have the creative mind of the caucasian. ;D

just look at the asians domination on sites like ebay. shameless copying of the white mans work and then massproduced as a shit non-quality controlled product.

they do have an strong point in tenacity about them. but it's mostly annoying.

racist-rant over.

Asians needs an apostrophe indicating possession. "Asian's domination"

Mans needs an apostrophe indicating possession. "white man's work"

Mass produced is two words.

It is "a" not "an"

Brutal " - " usage throughout.

studying to become an engineer. other than that you don't know anything about what I have done and that's besides the point anyways.

"other than that you don't know anything about what I have done" This is the point of asking the question.

It is "beside" not "besides"

Redundant "anyways"





Your unacuminous regard for grammar and detail shows lack of self respect and dignity. A poor race supremacist you are.

You are a disgrace to whatever mongrel breed you call your own.

It is not beside the point. The point is you are clearly a dunce that has accomplished nothing significant. Therefor you  have no right to spew maleficent baloney about anyone.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2013, 04:52:30 PM »
Shut your mouth, it almost sounds like you re a lemon face yourself.

Fact is everyone on earth wants to be white, not asian.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2013, 05:00:31 PM »
Asians needs an apostrophe indicating possession. "Asian's domination"

Mans needs an apostrophe indicating possession. "white man's work"

Mass produced is two words.

It is "a" not "an"

Brutal " - " usage throughout.

"other than that you don't know anything about what I have done" This is the point of asking the question.

It is "beside" not "besides"

Redundant "anyways"





Your unacuminous regard for grammar and detail shows lack of self respect and dignity. A poor race supremacist you are.

You are a disgrace to whatever mongrel breed you call your own.

It is not beside the point. The point is you are clearly a dunce that has accomplished nothing significant. Therefor you  have no right to spew maleficent baloney about anyone.
fuck you sound like one annoying bitch.

since when did getbig.com become a spelling bee. people write in haste on here without care for that in case you didn't notice. it's getbig.com not getspellingbee.com


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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2013, 05:10:38 PM »
Don't know of any good metal bands in China.

Country is good for fuck-all.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2013, 05:24:33 PM »

Those numbers are very distorted because of the nature and structure of China.  Its a communist system so it does not matter regarding income per person....everyone is provided with food, water, shelter, education, health insurance, etc regardless. 

That being said, SuperPower is only a matter of having nuclear capability.

Lol the UK, France, Pakistan, north Korea--these are superpowers?  Dream on, "Vince"

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2013, 05:27:21 PM »

Those numbers are very distorted because of the nature and structure of China.  Its a communist system so it does not matter regarding income per person....everyone is provided with food, water, shelter, education, health insurance, etc regardless. 

That being said, SuperPower is only a matter of having nuclear capability.
You won't have to worry about China Vince since you moving to Mexico. They don't want Mexico.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2013, 05:41:39 PM »
Lol the UK, France, Pakistan, north Korea--these are superpowers?  Dream on, "Vince"

That's how the term was coined.....besides that, why does it matter who is a Superpower anyway
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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2013, 05:42:49 PM »
 syntax is super smart



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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2013, 05:51:43 PM »
Just a question tho.

How do they survive when the west stop buying their shit cause it is bankrupt?



They let their currency rise, raising the standard of living for their own people, to which they sell the products they produce.  They have a vast market in their own country.