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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #100 on: October 07, 2013, 05:20:20 PM »
And the 911 electric steering is not they great, go drive one... Don't read what's in magazines, as a matter of fact the mags are saying its not that great either....

NSX is long in the tooth no denying that but for its time and even a lot of enthusiasts today consider it one of the best cars ever! Early models were very hardcore, 91-93, superb chassis, first car ever all aluminum  later models got softer and less rigid in chassis, steering and suspension  ;)
drove a 911 991 the electric steering is pretty good, a lot better than the 5 series.

They apparently made it better in the GT3, and they are sticking with it. And the new M3/M4 will get it as well.

And yes, the NSX still delights today...says what you can do with an excellent chassis. And was the vehicle that Ron Dennis and Gordon Murray when they developed the Mclaren F1.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #101 on: October 07, 2013, 05:58:24 PM »
I am really concern about GB Jew Wiggs safety, Chinese could kidnap him & exploit his "intellectual" strength  :-[

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #102 on: October 08, 2013, 12:43:01 AM »
Americans Are World's Most Productive Workers, U.N. Report Finds
Associated Press

GENEVA –  American workers stay longer in the office, at the factory or on the farm than their counterparts in Europe and most other rich nations, and they produce more per person over the year.

They also get more done per hour than everyone but the Norwegians, according to a U.N. report released Monday, which said the United States "leads the world in labor productivity."

The average U.S. worker produces $63,885 of wealth per year, more than their counterparts in all other countries, the International Labor Organization said in its report. Ireland comes in second at $55,986, followed by Luxembourg at $55,641, Belgium at $55,235 and France at $54,609.



Thanks, good info. Can I get the source? Because we also need to know how this plays out per capita (not per worker), what the cost of living expenses are, etc. All in all a big can of worms. Which is why I didn't say IronGrip was wrong, just that I had my doubts. But proven wrong here, so I've learned something.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #103 on: October 08, 2013, 12:49:12 AM »
1. A per capita GDP similar to such luminaries as Jamaica and Thailand, ranked #93 in the world.

2. Epic poverty:

Live less than $1.25 a day 13.1% (172 million)
Live less than $2 a day 29.8% (394 million)
Live less than $2.5 a day   39.9% (528 million)
Live less than $4 a day    62% (821 million)
Live less than $5 a day    71.6% (948 million)

An estimated 200 million people in China are homeless. Estimates tend to be conservative, and there will be many more in awful accommodation which can hardly be counted as homely.

3. Artificially stimulated GDP growth: there are entire ghost cities of empty apartment buildings with prices kept artificially high in a bid to at least maintain GDP growth, when in fact many of the goods and services contributing to these figures are neither needed nor wanted, hence not worth even remotely close to what they are claimed to be.

4. A crappy language: Mandarin is highly inefficient, takes ages to learn, and is worthless, since the only moderately well-off places in China are in big cities and generally speak good English. The opportunity cost of learning something like Mandarin is enormous.

5. A super high savings rate: seemingly an asset, the savings rate is a result of Chinese households recognizing that there aren't really social programs to prop them up in the event of disaster (the way some want it in the States), plus a conscious decision by central planners to pursue an export driven growth model.

The result is an unsustainable situation in which export-driven growth needs to be replaced with more domestic consumption, something it isn't clear the central planners will be able to pull off. Failure will in all probability lead to significant, possibly fatal social unrest (see (2) above) while success will mean significantly lower growth rates, quite the dilemma.

6. A largely unproven, shite military with low quality equipment and little R&D spending, plus an embarrassingly small class of the sorts of naval vessels that allow power projection abroad (read: ONE), a necessary but not sufficient capability for any superpower:





7. An overtly authoritarian model of thought control that stifles excellence in intellectual pursuits and thus technological/scientific advancement: Ireland has more nobel prize winners than China (9 vs 8; US=338), and China is known to imprison its own winners (see: Liu Xiaobo).

But yes, they are going to supersede the US and become a world superpower very, VERY soon. Say hello to your new overlords!  ::)


L0L L0L L0L. H0MELESS? IT'S A S0CIALIST/ C0MMUNIST C0UNTRY. THERE ARE N0 H0MELESS PE0PLE IN CHINA.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #104 on: October 08, 2013, 01:18:47 AM »

L0L L0L L0L. H0MELESS? IT'S A S0CIALIST/ C0MMUNIST C0UNTRY. THERE ARE N0 H0MELESS PE0PLE IN CHINA.
Still haven't gotten your keyboard fixed?

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #105 on: October 08, 2013, 01:24:22 AM »
Still haven't gotten your keyboard fixed?
Waiting for parts to be delivered from China.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #106 on: October 08, 2013, 02:13:19 AM »
...
Honestly an n=1 observation, but my US colleagues are not more productive than we are here in Europe. A bit less even, but the difference is negligible. They do work (i.e. "are present at their desks") long hours though, whereas here people struggle to fill their 36 hours per week with work. Minesweeper FTW. ;) So I get a lot of talk out of NY about how hard they work, and how cut-throat competition is, but the only thing they excell at is self-aggrandizing....

Not N=1, but an anecdotal observation with unknown N (where N denotes the number of observed individuals, not the number of observers), described in an anecdotal fashion that makes it unverifiable. Still interesting, though! ;-)

NN

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #107 on: October 08, 2013, 03:32:43 AM »
Not N=1, but an anecdotal observation with unknown N (where N denotes the number of observed individuals, not the number of observers), described in an anecdotal fashion that makes it unverifiable. Still interesting, though! ;-)

NN
Very true, thanks. So using the AMA style: Anecdotal, N=80, n=17. ;D

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #108 on: October 08, 2013, 05:56:58 AM »
Very true, thanks. So using the AMA style: Anecdotal, N=80, n=17. ;D

Great, I hereby accept the submitted manuscript for publication. :-)

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower REAL Soon
« Reply #109 on: October 19, 2013, 02:17:17 PM »
As much as it pains me to say it, because I love to travel, it's these type of policies that have several countries in Europe failing.  Say what you want about fat lazy Americans, we work ourselves to death, and that's how we are able to afford what we have. (for the most part)

But you have earn that pain, no doubt about it. And while you are in pain, I have been fuckin 16 year old chinese bitch, who are willing to suck life out of my cock. Not my life, but hers, because I pay her just about what she earns in a year by knitting commando stocking caps for black americans, so they would be able to rob liquor stores. Do you know Kama Sutra? That is for childrens, but this Kung Fu Fucking what these chinese bitch are able to do, will blow your semen through the roof. There will be pigeons and seagulls dropping from the sky when you are spilling your load at the hands of these bitches  ;D

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #110 on: October 19, 2013, 02:20:21 PM »
Is it true that China is encouraging its citizens to buy Gold?  While our government has food stamp recruiters with monthly quotas?

???

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #111 on: October 19, 2013, 02:25:03 PM »

L0L L0L L0L. H0MELESS? IT'S A S0CIALIST/ C0MMUNIST C0UNTRY. THERE ARE N0 H0MELESS PE0PLE IN CHINA.

Have you been to China? There are plenty of homeless people there.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #112 on: October 19, 2013, 02:29:49 PM »

L0L L0L L0L. H0MELESS? IT'S A S0CIALIST/ C0MMUNIST C0UNTRY. THERE ARE N0 H0MELESS PE0PLE IN CHINA.

your ego is making a fool out of you

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #113 on: October 19, 2013, 03:13:36 PM »
They should ask Japan if the want to mess with the USA. Lights will go out.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #114 on: October 19, 2013, 03:30:47 PM »
Is it true that China is encouraging its citizens to buy Gold?  While our government has food stamp recruiters with monthly quotas?

???

Yes, they are encouraging them to buy both gold and silver. 

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #115 on: October 19, 2013, 03:32:23 PM »
China has no balls to take on Taiwan  ;) or those rocky islands  ;D (Japan).

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #116 on: October 19, 2013, 05:48:57 PM »
China has no balls to take on Taiwan  ;) or those rocky islands  ;D (Japan).

Musclecenter agrees

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #117 on: October 19, 2013, 05:52:38 PM »
Musclecenter agrees

Someone make a Taiwan Strong video with musclecenters face:


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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #118 on: October 25, 2013, 07:49:53 PM »
Syntax, please comment on these articles!!

Chinese to Invest in British Nuclear Power
LONDON — Britain said on Thursday that it would allow Chinese firms to buy stakes in British nuclear power plants and eventually acquire majority holdings.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/business/international/britain-to-let-chinese-buy-into-nuclear-power-plants.html?_r=2&

China's Largest Conglomerate Buys Building Housing JPMorgan's Gold Vault
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-18/chinas-largest-conglomerate-buys-building-houses-jpmorgans-gold-vault

China buys up Britain as politics takes a back seat
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10377750/China-buys-up-Britain-as-politics-takes-a-back-seat.html


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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #119 on: October 25, 2013, 08:07:38 PM »
syntax is super smart



if you dont know math how can you be smart

he doesnt have a degree in math

im not smart either because i dont have a degree in math either

people who know math and physics are smart
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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #120 on: October 25, 2013, 08:10:13 PM »
there are no wars between countries , only wars between riches and poors.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #121 on: October 26, 2013, 01:09:59 AM »

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #122 on: November 07, 2013, 11:38:13 PM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/11/05/want-to-move-abroad-this-map-shows-the-best-and-worst-countries-to-be-an-expatriate/#!

Want to move abroad? This map shows the best and worst countries to be an expatriate.

China and Thailand are the two best countries to be an expatriate, according to a recent study by British bank HSBC that looked at economic opportunities and quality of life for expats in 34 countries. They're followed by small, rich countries known for their globalized business classes. In descending order, they are: Switzerland, the Cayman Islands, Bahrain and Singapore.

The worst of these 34 countries to be an expat is Egypt, which has seen xenophobia rise considerably since this summer's military coup and wave of populist nationalism. Also at the bottom of the list is much of Western Europe, which the report says is often too expensive for expats. In descending order: France, Spain, the United Kingdom, Italy and second-to-last is Ireland.

For 24 of those countries, the study also looked at metrics gauging the suitability of raising children as expats. If you incorporate the data on child rearing abroad along with the economic and quality-of-life measurements, China ranks first overall, following by Germany and Singapore. The study concludes that Germany is the best of these countries to raise expat children, that Thailand provides the best work-life experience for expats, and that Switzerland has the most favorable economy for expatriates.

This map shows how the 34 countries compare on economic opportunities and quality-of-life for expats. It does not include the metrics on child rearing. Bluer countries are better for expats and redder countries are worse:



You can see right away that the data are very favorable for expat life in Asia's developing economies. Companies in these countries prize expat workers and tend to pay them 15 percent more, the report explains. This, combined with lower costs of living, can give expats much higher spending power than they'd enjoy elsewhere. Expats in East and Southeast Asia also tend to report that their social lives become much more active on moving there, due perhaps to the boost in disposable incomes as well as better weather and proximity to beaches.

Still, I was surprised to see mainland China rank so high. The country's worsening air quality (here is the most shocking photo of Chinese air pollution I've ever seen) and food safety issues (watch this video on Chinese "gutter oil" if you dare), particularly severe in the major cities likely to host expats, have sent a number of expats packing as China once again becomes a "hardship" posting. Perhaps the economics really are that favorable to outweigh these costs.

Germany and Switzerland also scored well for expats, as both economies improve despite the larger European woes. Salaries for expats are unusually high in the German-speaking countries and expenses are lower than in the rest of the Europe, owing to export-driven economic growth. Strong social programs and high standards of living also tend to make the experience pleasant, even if expats do not live as a class-above as they do in many developing economies.

Middle Eastern countries tend be worse places for expats, owing to legislation that makes it tougher for foreigners to own property and because of formal and informal social restrictions that can cut back on quality of life. The exceptions are Bahrain and Qatar, two very wealthy and very small Persian Gulf states whose governments work to attract the wealthy expats they see as crucial to building businesses there. It should go without saying that HSBC's study does not consider "guest workers" in its measurements. Gulf states, particularly Qatar, have notorious reputations for mistreating migrant laborers from South and Southeast Asia, who work in difficult conditions and with few protections.

A big surprise here may be the countries of Western Europe, which despite their wealth and high standards of living are considered among the worst countries to be an expat, according to the study. The report cites high taxes and costly services; expenses that might make sense if you're a citizen who plans to one day employ your country's substantial social services, but less so if you're an expat who pays into those services but doesn't fully benefit. The European Union's ongoing financial problems also mean that salaries are less competitive, particularly compared to the higher cost of living. Part of this may be that Western European companies, as well as foreign companies with offices in Western Europe, are not as willing to invest in growth with all the economic uncertainty. Otherwise, though, Western Europe ranks highly for child rearing, with high-quality education and child services relatively affordable.

Based just on this report, if you're thinking about flying off for the life of an expat and you don't want to have kids there, then you should consider China, Thailand or someplace else in Asia. And if you want to have kids abroad, then Germany should also be near the top of your list.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #123 on: November 08, 2013, 03:35:34 AM »


1. While the study is informative, one issue it doesn't address is the availability of work opportunities in the countries under consideration: sure, Bahrain is a great place for expats who get jobs there (using disposable income as a metric), but what are the chances of getting such jobs in the first place?

The study doesn't even purport to consider this issue, which is fine -- that's HSBC's choice (perhaps made out of necessity). But the article reporting the study does presume that the study somehow represents a 'list of places wannabe expats should go,' which simply isn't true since the average wannabe expat isn't going to be capable of getting jobs in a lot of these countries.

2. The data is collected from HSBC customers and "online expat communities," a possibly unrepresentative sample which may lead to skewing in either direction (income-wise): one the one hand, I imagine people with shit income aren't online sharing such info, but on the other hand, a class of high income professionals aren't likely to be a part of said online communities: financial professionals with decades of experience who are from an older generation, say.

3. We don't know how many respondents there are per country, and thus don't know how robust the results are. The HSBC website mentions that the 37 countries featured had a "minimum of 30 respondents", but that is a very low threshold and doesn't indicate how respondents any of specific country had.

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Re: China Set to Become Epic Superpower VERY Soon
« Reply #124 on: November 08, 2013, 11:40:10 AM »
I will move to China and work for you for $3 million usd pa. or more.  Let the bidding commence.