I regard taking GH and/or insulin as jumping the shark...once you have done that, you are in serious bodybuilding drug-taking territory.
The difference between a guy who takes only steroids and one who also takes GH/insulin is greater than that between steroid-only bodybuilders and drug-free bodybuilders.
Once you have jumped the shark, you have made a serious committment to having huge muscles at any costs.
Is it really worth it? Is it worth becoming diabetic and running the risk of dying from acromegalia from your organs becoming too big for your body for having big muscles?
You guys are morons, and I mean this honestly. Only a moron would risk dying from acromegalia, once of the most horrifically painful deaths imaginable, just to have huge muscles. It is not worth it, folks. It really isn't.
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