I regard taking GH and/or insulin as jumping the shark...once you have done that, you are in serious bodybuilding drug-taking territory.
The difference between a guy who takes only steroids and one who also takes GH/insulin is greater than that between steroid-only bodybuilders and drug-free bodybuilders.
Once you have jumped the shark, you have made a serious committment to having huge muscles at any costs.
Is it really worth it? Is it worth becoming diabetic and running the risk of dying from acromegalia from your organs becoming too big for your body for having big muscles?
You guys are morons, and I mean this honestly. Only a moron would risk dying from acromegalia, once of the most horrifically painful deaths imaginable, just to have huge muscles. It is not worth it, folks. It really isn't.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
It's not the same as steroids in any way, shape or form. In physiological terms, both insulin and GH produce problems that are substantially graver than those of steroids. Diabetes is a lot more serious, for instance, than the liver failure caused by steroids. It can make you have your limbs amputated and make you go blind. And acromegaly is incorregible, and gives you one of the most horrifying deaths imaginable.
And even steroids are not safe. Felx Wheeler, Don Long, Tom Prince, etc, they have all nearly died from steroids. A few Deca cycles won't kill you, but it might produce negative changes in blood lipid profile, increases in blood creatinine, etc. Also, most steroid users don't use only 200 mg of Deca a week: they use multiple grams of several steroids per week. That is hardly safe. I assure you that all those guys using 2,000+ mg of test a week are taking away years from their lifespans. You are a moron.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
A few weeks ago, I wouldn't have thought I'd come to write this...
But
major props to SMM for presenting perfectly rational, legitimate points that go totally against the grain of what a large part of getbig is all about.
Most of you don't even want to
approach thinking about these issues. Consider this:
In every (I mean every) definition of growth hormone you find from medical sources, the conclusion is one and the same. GH is a VERY complex hormone, whose majority of functions are UNKNOWN.
It comes down to: you don't know what this shit has the potential to do to you a few years or decades down the line.
The fact that super-heavy abusers like Coleman and Yates haven't died from mystifying illnesses yet, doesn't mean that you'll get away scot-free.
And Coleman looks like shit anyway, wasn't there a picture of him in a hospital a few weeks ago? Wearing a fucking neck brace and having massive, bruised sausage fingers.
Yates looks like he's about a hundred years old and has a permanent gut- yet, when he takes his shirt off, you can see his abs; what does that mean? try massive accumulation of visceral fat which has been shown to raise the risk for heart disease.
To all you short-sighted meatheads who abuse this powerful hormone, think about what you're trading.
The uncertainty of being stricken by unknown illnesses for an ephemeral muscled look.
