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...and boy are they 'on their toes' today after yesterday's seattle shooting.
I only got a warning... It seems I turned over a double yellow line in a construction zone.
Anyway, they saw my permit, asked if I had a gun, and immediately detained me in cuffs for 15 minutes while they ran everything under the sun to ensure I was a 100% good guy with no violations on anything.
They were very nice, but explained after the 4 cop shooting yesterday, every cop in town is being super-vigilant with concealed weapons today.
"You're not under arrest, but I wish to detail you with handcuffs so that I can remove this handgun from your person"
They were nice, but it was a pain in the ass. Thanks, a-hole from seattle >:(
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...and boy are they 'on their toes' today after yesterday's seattle shooting.
I only got a warning... It seems I turned over a double yellow line in a construction zone.
Anyway, they saw my permit and immediately detained me in cuffs for 15 minutes while they ran everything under the sun to ensure I was a 100% good guy with no violations on anything.
They were very nice, but explained after the 4 cop shooting yesterday, every cop in town is being super-vigilant with concealed weapons today.
"You're not under arrest, but I wish to detail you with handcuffs so that I can remove this handgun from your person"
They were nice, but it was a pain in the ass. Thanks, a-hole from seattle >:(
HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHA AHAAHAHAAHAh...
You're not under arrest sonny boy, but we will cuff your ass anyway.
You are not a suspect for anything, but we will run a thorough check on you anyway....
You are not a suspect for anything but Uh can we get your social, license, registration yadda...
NO........ america is NOT A POLICE STATE.
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240 - probably resembles a typical tebagging redneck in person. We all know how many crimes those radicals commit.
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HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHA AHAAHAHAAHAh...
You're not under arrest sonny boy, but we will cuff your ass anyway.
You are not a suspect for anything, but we will run a thorough check on you anyway....
You are not a suspect for anything but Uh can we get your social, license, registration yadda...
NO........ america is NOT A POLICE STATE.
Thats really sad.Our liberty is being grabbed from us everyday.
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hahahah right on 333386 and BILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and those 2 cops hated them some obama!
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hahahah right on 333386 and BILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and those 2 cops hated them some obama!
240 - do you have a southern drawl?
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no, I don't have a southern drawl. I lived in OH until I was 16. And I'm an educated person, not all hilbillty, etc.... But I am a bit burly, unshaven, and teabag-looking, I suppose.
It did suck. 90 minutes later, I still have the grooves on my wrist from those hard ass handcuffs. Very uncomfortable feeling. I know it was 'for my own protection', etc, but yeah... I didn't enjoy it.
The lesson was.... Keep the piece in the glove box and avoid that. :(
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no, I don't have a southern drawl. I lived in OH until I was 16. And I'm an educated person, not all hilbillty, etc.... But I am a bit burly, unshaven, and teabag-looking, I suppose.
It did suck. 90 minutes later, I still have the grooves on my wrist from those hard ass handcuffs. Very uncomfortable feeling. I know it was 'for my own protection', etc, but yeah... I didn't enjoy it.
The lesson was.... Keep the piece in the glove box and avoid that. :(
Mine is usually in the mxpedition bag.
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They were DEFINITELY repubs! haha.... not Obama fans. They told me the seattle cops managed to shoot the bad guy in the stomach... i talked to them about the huckabee relationship... they said they're probably looking for a body, with the gut shot, but I pointed out my own brother (of nearby pharmacy shooting fame) got a guy in gut with .45 JHP from a glock, and the guy drove to miami for surgery. They knew I wasn't a POS scumbag, and treated me nicely... while I was in cuffs haha...
Very decent guys... I mean, I could sit in a bar and talk politics or sports with them. Dropping F-bombs and complaining about this and that. They were doing their jobs, I get that. Still, it sucked.
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240 , thats bad ass that after that you still say (i get it , they were doing their jobs) , many people would be looking to file profiling charges or play some sorta victim role and cry to all the media outlets, Props to you man!!!!
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They were DEFINITELY repubs! haha.... not Obama fans. They told me the seattle cops managed to shoot the bad guy in the stomach... i talked to them about the huckabee relationship... they said they're probably looking for a body, with the gut shot, but I pointed out my own brother (of nearby pharmacy shooting fame) got a guy in gut with .45 JHP from a glock, and the guy drove to miami for surgery. They knew I wasn't a POS scumbag, and treated me nicely... while I was in cuffs haha...
Very decent guys... I mean, I could sit in a bar and talk politics or sports with them. Dropping F-bombs and complaining about this and that. They were doing their jobs, I get that. Still, it sucked.
240 - why dont you take the test and go out for the PD?
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33,
I admire and support what law enforcement do. I have a few in my family, and the rest of us are either gun dealers or carry them daily. Still, that's not the world for me. I'm a stay-at-home kinda guy. Cops have to face some serious stress - 24/7. I'm not up for that.
BodyProSite,
I know how tough their job is. Four cops died checking their email over coffee yesterday. nine kids between them . That is some seriously terrible shit. the cops were very apologetic about having to handcuff me, and kept my hands below level so my son in the car would not see.
it sucked, but they realize they have a gun on person, and well, I'd have done the same thing myself. They did it classy, it was an inconvenient 15 minutes, and I know not to turn over a yellow in a construciton zone. Both them, and I, handled the situation like pro's and it was quick.
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JESUS H CHRIST...I WAS HOPING THE FUCKTARD WASNT BLACK!!!!!!!!!!
Oh brother..Que the "see savage ni66ers" from the resident racists here
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JESUS H CHRIST...I WAS HOPING THE FUCKTARD WASNT BLACK!!!!!!!!!!
Oh brother..Que the "see savage ni66ers" from the resident racists here
It is what it is Mal. IMHO, Huckleberry deserves a ton of blame. The system was on notice of this savage long before this event.
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and let me guess. it was his black skin that drove him to do that right
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the officer told me the charge on the guy - who huck pardoned or whatever - was sex with a CHILD. under FL law, a "child" is under 8. that's insanely sick.
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and let me guess. it was his black skin that drove him to do that right
No, this savage was not fit for earth and had a lengthy violent record to where he should have stayed in jail for life.
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and let me guess. it was his black skin that drove him to do that right
Doubt it. From what's coming out lately, he appears to be pretty fucked up in the head. He might even be a legitimate insanity case from what I've been reading.
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completely bogus detainment.
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completely bogus detainment.
I have to agree, ...but at the same time, ...you also have to know when to choose your battles.
These guys are nervous as heck, doing a thankless job and don't want their colleagues making a call to their loved ones. 240 had his child with him in the car. Sometimes, ...there's got to be a little give & take, a little understanding & consideration for the position the other guy is in. You gotta know when to choose your battles and not sweat the small stuff. A nervous paranoid cop with an itchy trigger finger could have offed him and gotten away with it... he was going for his gun. Dead men can't rebutt the testimony of a LIVE perjuring witness, ...and when a man is already dead, ...it's easy to perpetuate a lie to keep another from going down too. Telling the truth wouldn't bring him back to life. But ya, I agree. It was a wrongful arrest. Anytime you cuff someone, they are under arrest. If 240 is fine with everything, ...then I am too.
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yeah, his eyes did turn to dinner platters when I calmly said "yeah, I have the gun in my pocket".
I could have made a stink, but I didn't. I know what a thankless job being a cop can be. I know they all wanna get home to their families, and every stop can be that one nutbag.
Plus, physically, that cop was smaller and weaker than me. If he had reached for my weapon and I had decided to make a move, I probably would have been able to hurt the guy. he was polite, apologetic, and he said we could do it outside and blelow window level so my son didn't see.
They had a shitty job to do, but they did it with professionalism and courtesy. Like jag said, misunderstandings do happen, and I was sure careful to move slow. Four of their fmaily were iced in cold blood last night. They're on their toes.
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Thats really sad.Our liberty is being grabbed from us everyday.
Nuh Uh...Not according to BF, TA, and whatzhisface that just got shipped the fuck off to Iraq. According to them everything is FINE!!!!
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240 - do you have a southern drawl?
YES... a West Virginia and Georgia Combo...the worst kind of drawl
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LOL... I'm not from FL... so luckily I'm still pretty easy to understand when speaking.
I think the dems and repubs would probably both agree we're in a 'less free' society evrey day. This particular example sucked, and it's a reminder that not only do we live in a less free place, but that things are more dangerous for police than ever.
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I have to agree, ...but at the same time, ...you also have to know when to choose your battles.
These guys are nervous as heck, doing a thankless job and don't want their colleagues making a call to their loved ones. 240 had his child with him in the car. Sometimes, ...there's got to be a little give & take, a little understanding & consideration for the position the other guy is in. You gotta know when to choose your battles and not sweat the small stuff. A nervous paranoid cop with an itchy trigger finger could have offed him and gotten away with it... he was going for his gun. Dead men can't rebutt the testimony of a LIVE perjuring witness, ...and when a man is already dead, ...it's easy to perpetuate a lie to keep another from going down too. Telling the truth wouldn't bring him back to life. But ya, I agree. It was a wrongful arrest. Anytime you cuff someone, they are under arrest. If 240 is fine with everything, ...then I am too.
I sure wouldn't suggest 240 fight them on it there. I would have went along with that under those conditions too. 240 can do what he wants, I'd make an issue of it later. They're probably trigger happy just looking for someone to take it out on.
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Its not when the cops start acting out of line that you have to worry its when the courts stop following the law and reprimanding the cops.
ALWAYS DO WHAT THE COPS SAYYYYY!!!!!!!, a lot of ppl on here like to post stories of cops shooting ppl, when the person wasnt listening to the cop or intentionally disobeying them.
Do what they say and KNOW YOUR RIGHTS if they do something wrong you bring it up after the fact...plain and simple.
240 acted smart be polite and cooperative being a dick head could have made a 90 min pain in the ass a couple hour pain in the ass.
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Its not when the cops start acting out of line that you have to worry its when the courts stop following the law and reprimanding the cops.
ALWAYS DO WHAT THE COPS SAYYYYY!!!!!!!, a lot of ppl on here like to post stories of cops shooting ppl, when the person wasnt listening to the cop or intentionally disobeying them.
Do what they say and KNOW YOUR RIGHTS if they do something wrong you bring it up after the fact...plain and simple.
240 acted smart be polite and cooperative being a dick head could have made a 90 min pain in the ass a couple hour pain in the ass.
you're right, the only question is if 240 or others this happens to wish to make an issue of it later and I think it's ok to do that. I don't think anyone wanted to see 240 confront the cops and get shot.
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Nuh Uh...Not according to BF, TA, and whatzhisface that just got shipped the fuck off to Iraq. According to them everything is FINE!!!!
Aww, boo hoo. He was detained for 15 minutes while they ran his information BECAUSE 4 officers were just executed in cold blood. Now that they have a reminder of something like that being a possiblity I fully expect them to do their job to the utmost of their ability for a few weeks while the incident is fresh in their head. I reckon a number of cops get lackadaisical with regards to proper procedure during lulls. An event like this probably makes every cop reevaluate their priorities and play it close to the chest for a while.
You're not even American so what's it to you anyway, gimmick?
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you're right, the only question is if 240 or others this happens to wish to make an issue of it later and I think it's ok to do that. I don't think anyone wanted to see 240 confront the cops and get shot.
not at all, I would like to make him read palins book until he admits he is a lib though ;D
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Police state alert. Orwell was on to something.
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yeah, his eyes did turn to dinner platters when I calmly said "yeah, I have the gun in my pocket".
ROTFLOL! I can imagine!
I could have made a stink, but I didn't. I know what a thankless job being a cop can be. I know they all wanna get home to their families, and every stop can be that one nutbag.
Plus, physically, that cop was smaller and weaker than me. If he had reached for my weapon and I had decided to make a move, I probably would have been able to hurt the guy. he was polite, apologetic, and he said we could do it outside and blelow window level so my son didn't see.
That's the problem when you're bigger. you are threatening & intimidating without meaning to be. As a small woman, if I'm pissed off and happen to raise my voice as a result, it's often understood that I'm simply letting off steam. Someone who is larger who does the same thing discovered they are often misunderstood. Those same actions aren't perceived as someone letting off steam, ...but rather as someone who is physically intimidating. And when the person being intimidated is one with a gun and the authority to use it... you could end up very dead.
They had a shitty job to do, but they did it with professionalism and courtesy. Like jag said, misunderstandings do happen, and I was sure careful to move slow. Four of their fmaily were iced in cold blood last night. They're on their toes.
That's the key tho isn't it? Police officers can garner soooo much co-operation and lee-way, with the public, as long as they conduct themselves with professionalism and courtesy. Unfortunately so many are walking around so scared poop-less, they perceive courtesy as a sign of weakness... and see all members of the public as enemies who must be subdued... residents of an occupied city or county who must be subservient and compliant.
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I'm LMFAO @ how 240 is so pussywhipped that he has no problem with police officers using force and detaining him - even though he's not even suspected of a crime.
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I'm LMFAO @ how 240 is so pussywhipped that he has no problem with police officers using force and detaining him - even though he's not even suspected of a crime.
dude, proper time to make an issue of it is after it's done. 240's kids losing their father over standing up against the police state, yea, not worth it. Make a complaint of it after the fact. Now if he didn't have a gun and they were detaining him with no cause, then he could probably get away with standing his ground some. But it's not worth getting shot over. 240 did the right thing in this case even if they were wrong.
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the worst part was when they forced me to sit on the curb for 15 minutes while they read excerpts from palin's book.
I'd have rather experienced a rodney king beating, to be honest!
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yeah, we had just woken up from a nap. I'm unshaven, hair a little messy, drinking a protein shake and grinning in the middle of the day, and a kid in the vehicle. Gun in pocket. I wasn't exactly wearing a tie and driving a toyota thru rush hour.
I'm sure by whatever list of factors they have for profiling, I was ticking on a few points of suspicion that they use when determining who to run and who to ignore.
"I'm LMFAO @ how 240 is so pussywhipped that he has no problem with police officers using force and detaining him - even though he's not even suspected of a crime."
hedge- How would you have reacted differently when the cop said "I would like to place you in handcuffs, for both of our protection, while I take your weapon."? They never put their hands on me - using force. Just the cuffs, and they were off once my paperwork was run.
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the worst part was when they forced me to sit on the curb for 15 minutes while they read excerpts from palin's book.
I'd have rather experienced a rodney king beating, to be honest!
Which parts did they read 240?
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"Which parts did they read 240?"
I dunno, the part about how the streets will be paved with the blood of the non-believing libs. I think it was actually lifted from her 2008 RNC acceptance speech though.
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lol... none of this actually happened did it?
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it really happened. the Palin addition didn't, of course. But they were very critical of obama once they saw the permit. and of course, the huck talk was there, once they brought up seattle shooting.
and yeah, being in handcuffs is one uncomfortable feeling. I don't know if i've felt that helpless in all my life :(
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another potential factor in the handcuffs, although the police didn't mention it.
yesterday there was a kidnapped child in my city - the boy was a blond 3-year old just like mine, grabbed by his father. Maybe I looked like the guy they were seeking?
http://www.news-press.com/article/200912010752/NEWS01/91201013
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240, I just think you were shafted. No way you should have to accept it.
I think you handled the situation VERY well. But it's your reaction afterwards that makes me wonder. Seems like you've been brainwashed into thinking that police officers should be able to do whatever they want.
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of course i was shafted.
I would like to hear what other getbiggers woudl have done instead, or afterwards.
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of course i was shafted.
I would like to hear what other getbiggers woudl have done instead, or afterwards.
you already know...Maybe an arm bar to one of the cops while the other guy gets a Guillotine to the throat
duhhhh
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you already know...Maybe an arm bar to one of the cops while the other guy gets a Guillotine to the throat
duhhhh
240 probably could have pulled off a collar choke.
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hahahahahhahahaha the second cop on the scene was probably 210. I didn't want to wrassle with him.
the first guy was 160. I'm 185-190 and definitely towered over him.
If I had been wearing a tapout shirt, it may have been an option.
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hahahahahhahahaha the second cop on the scene was probably 210. I didn't want to wrassle with him.
the first guy was 160. I'm 185-190 and definitely towered over him.
If I had been wearing a tapout shirt, it may have been an option.
lol...funny
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of course i was shafted.
I would like to hear what other getbiggers woudl have done instead, or afterwards.
Did you really get shafted, though? They were looking for a missing three year old that fit the description of your son and you were also carrying a weapon. I'm wondering how they could have handled it better than they did? By not cuffing you while they ran your information and risk getting shot had you possibly kidnapped the kid?
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well, I was handcuffed having done nothing wrong. I didn't like it. Was uncomfortable, in front of a busy road, etc. i know I handled it right - but I was curious if the politically shifted minds here had any alternatives to my actions.
But in retrospect, seeing as there was a near-identical blonde boy in the area, and I'm a disshelved aggressive male packing heat in the middle of the day... plus 1 day after the police shooting... they did the right thing. Just an imperfect situation, imperfect world.
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240, I just think you were shafted. No way you should have to accept it.
I think you handled the situation VERY well. But it's your reaction afterwards that makes me wonder. Seems like you've been brainwashed into thinking that police officers should be able to do whatever they want.
Thats not what anybody is saying hedge.
First of all the police did nothing wrong here, they didnt place 240 in handcuffs against his will while being innocent.
They asked and explained why they felt it necessary and 240 being the smart guy he is(enjoy that 240 your still a dumb ass as far as this board goes) complied with them.
they didnt act egregious in anyway and didnt break the law...
please explain to me why you think their acts where so heinous?
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They put a guy in handcuffs for no reason. Apparently made it uncomfortable for him too.
Since 240 complied you would expect them to let him sit in the police car or on a nearby bench or whatever.
Or at the very least- not with the handcuffs tight as hell.
My point is 240 got on his back for these guys. You'd expect them to show some appreciation and cut him some slack.
I'm sure these pigs enjoyed how 240 had to stay nice to them when in handcuffs or things could get ugly.
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another potential factor in the handcuffs, although the police didn't mention it.
yesterday there was a kidnapped child in my city - the boy was a blond 3-year old just like mine, grabbed by his father. Maybe I looked like the guy they were seeking?
http://www.news-press.com/article/200912010752/NEWS01/91201013
Holy Cow 240... the guy does resemble you. Even has a similar looking tattoo in the same spot as yours.
That stop could have turned real nasty real fast. I'm glad everyone was able to keep a cool head about themselves.
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They put a guy in handcuffs for no reason. Apparently made it uncomfortable for him too.
Since 240 complied you would expect them to let him sit in the police car or on a nearby bench or whatever.
Or at the very least- not with the handcuffs tight as hell.
My point is 240 got on his back for these guys. You'd expect them to show some appreciation and cut him some slack.
I'm sure these pigs enjoyed how 240 had to stay nice to them when in handcuffs or things could get ugly.
they didnt place him in handcuffs for no reason, as a matter of fact they explained why and asked 240 if it was ok to be placed in handcuffs...
you seem to have some hang ups with police officers probably due to a past experience.
again what did these guys do wrong?
how did they break the law?
all youve got right now is the place a man in hand cuffs who was willing to be placed in hand cuffs ::)
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Funny thing is, I personally have only great experience with cops. Also have plenty of friends who work as cops.
I'm just allergic to excessive force being used and the personal liberties being infringed.
I am for a gun ban since I think they are unnecessary and only lead to a spiral of violence.
But at the same time I think the rights we have should be protected.
so 240 should not have to accept being harassed because he carry.it's legal to carry so the police shouldn't treat him differently.
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Funny thing is, I personally have only great experience with cops. Also have plenty of friends who work as cops.
I'm just allergic to excessive force being used and the personal liberties being infringed.
I am for a gun ban since I think they are unnecessary and only lead to a spiral of violence.
But at the same time I think the rights we have should be protected.
so 240 should not have to accept being harassed because he carry.it's legal to carry so the police shouldn't treat him differently.
what excess force was used?
what personal liberties infringed upon?
you still havent answered these questions
It is legal to carry a gun with a permit but if the police didnt break any laws or infringe on any rights your just bitching for bitchings sake
so please answer the questions
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I can understand that with my carry piece and reload mags, I carry with me the power to end 50 lives on a whim.
That's some serious power for a single man to wield.
So I understand if there is some resonsibility that comes with it, and some extra BS to come with it. Kidnapping in the area with a kid that looked like mine, seattle shooting fresh on their mind, and a groggy unshaven 240 grinning at them with a big gun buldge in pocket. I can live with it.