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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on May 26, 2014, 10:20:58 AM
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Such bullshit....
BTW, she absolutely did the right thing.
Two teenage boys were recently shot after breaking into a Sacramento house. Now, the families of Michael Sambrano, 14, and Steven Crider,17, are claiming that the homeowner was wrong to shoot the intruders.
The two boys broke into the home of an elderly widow. Both were shot and killed by either the widow or her brother, who was staying with her for protection. The woman’s house had just recently been broken into.
While the neighbors of the victim stand by her decision, family members are arguing that the shots fired were unnecessary.
“They were on their way out the door, and I just think it was wrong that they were shot,” Sambrano’s sister told CBS Sacramento.
Still, neighbors who have face similar burglars claim that protecting family comes first, and California law states that a homeowner is permitted to use deadly force when someone enters their home if they have a reasonable fear of death or bodily injury.
“He was not an innocent bystander,” said neighbor David Keck, “I’m sorry the little boys or teenagers were killed, but if it’s my family, my family comes first.”
The victim, 68-year-old Alice Hubbard Gordinho, had been robbed several times before, and was in fear for her safety. Police say that the fingerprints on the scene of the most recent crime match a break in to Gordinho’s home that occurred this past Easter.
“I don’t have any comments to make on this,” Gordinho told News10, “I’m sorry for the boys, and I’m sorry for me, because they tormented me. It’s been a tragedy.”
What do you think? Was Gordinho justified in shooting the two intruders?
http://theuspatriot.com/2014/05/12/families-of-burglar-thugs-shot-by-70-year-old-widow-want-to-sue/
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so what is the meat of the story? family complaining? are they suing?
of course the homeowner was right to shoot. I couldn't really understand if they were suing the shooter or something?
they invaded someone's home - that's a death sentence in most places. Only a fool would break into an occupied dwelling.
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Capped in Peace
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how many shots did they each get?
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the Old widow should be allowed to shoot the families for raising burglars
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Ban the widow!
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Ban Valuables
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how many shots did they each get?
anyone know?
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Good for her.
Hope they felt the stinging blast full force and died in agony.
Anyone enters your home uninvited, he or she is fair game. If they get dead, that's how it goes.
Merely attempt to injure/immobilize the intruder?! Uh, nope. I'd go directly to lethal force.
Like I say, NO ONE who is not invited/welcome should EVER enter another's place of residence.
Case closed.
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anyone know?
Dosen't matter, at least she killed them.
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It's our fault really coach. If we would vote for progressive politicians who were willing to tax us more to fund social programs and whatnot, this could have been prevented.
We owe these childrens a better future.
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Thugs or youths?
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It's our fault really coach. If we would vote for progressive politicians who were willing to tax us more to fund social programs and whatnot, this could have been prevented.
We owe these childrens a better future.
Sure, because they're not offered every opportunity on the world.
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Sure, because they're not offered every opportunity on the world.
;D
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so what is the meat of the story? family complaining? are they suing?
of course the homeowner was right to shoot. I couldn't really understand if they were suing the shooter or something?
they invaded someone's home - that's a death sentence in most places. Only a fool would break into an occupied dwelling.
wtf are you talking about?
that's 1st deg burglary.. burglary when the place is empty is 2nd or 3rd deg, but if someone is home it's 1st deg, and classified as a violent crime (even if there's no violence and they burglar gets caught a week later pawning a watch he stole). 1st deg burg is 25yrs max in most states, of which you'll have to do 50% of whatever sentence you get. death sentence?
lets say the guy gets the full 25yr max sentence, he's getting out in 12.5yrs provided he doesn't lose his parole by getting into trouble while in prison... and most states have a "two-thirds cut" in which if the state will cut the guy loose from the rest of his parole/sentence after he's served 2/3's of the total sentence.
in California, the max parole is 3yrs. so even if he gets 25yrs and serves 12.5, he's eligible for release from parole after only 13months.. and 90% of the time he'll get it if he stays out of trouble in those 13months (i.e. no dirty drug tests, no arrests, no negative police contact).
... far from a 'death sentence'.
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wtf are you talking about?
that's 1st deg burglary.. burglary when the place is empty is 2nd or 3rd deg, but if someone is home it's 1st deg, and classified as a violent crime (even if there's no violence and they burglar gets caught a week later pawning a watch he stole). 1st deg burg is 25yrs max in most states, of which you'll have to do 50% of whatever sentence you get. death sentence?
lets say the guy gets the full 25yr max sentence, he's getting out in 12.5yrs provided he doesn't lose his parole by getting into trouble while in prison... and most states have a "two-thirds cut" in which if the state will cut the guy loose from the rest of his parole/sentence after he's served 2/3's of the total sentence.
in California, the max parole is 3yrs. so even if he gets 25yrs and serves 12.5, he's eligible for release from parole after only 13months.. and 90% of the time he'll get it if he stays out of trouble in those 13months (i.e. no dirty drug tests, no arrests, no negative police contact).
... far from a 'death sentence'.
he didnt mean by the law. The homeowner is dealing out the sentence
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he didnt mean by the law. The homeowner is dealing out the sentence
ah.. well, still in that case 9 time out of 10 the homeowner will be scared shitless and panic and lock themselves in a bathroom.
very very rare that they'll fight back, let alone have a gun nearby (or go get a gun) and shoot the intruder before they leave.
I have a client.. or ex-client.. old lady nearly 80, who's home was broken into (2nd story no less, in a gated community/country club) and had jewelry stolen while her and he husband (old fella with parkinsons) were downstairs.
she ended up getting a 6" .357mag and a shotgun.. shotgun is in her "safe room"/walk in closet, and the pistol is by her bed. neither of which she's ever shot. she's never even been to the range to shoot ANYTHING and has no idea how to shoot the guns in a panic and her exact words "I'm locking myself in the closet and I'm shooting holes through the door. I dont' care who's on the other side. I don't care if it's my husband"..... sorry to say, but she's not in the minority when it comes to home defense with firearms.. most are horribly un-trained/un-prepared and will panic in that situation, not shoot.... the lady will probably end up shooting herself in the leg and dying in the closet before she dials 911 (she has a cell phone on a charger in her closet now, permanently. in case the 'theives' cut the landline.. like in the movies. lol)
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Like the movie panic room :D
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Dosen't matter, at least she killed them.
It does matter in court though.
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Good for her.
Hope they felt the stinging blast full force and died in agony.
Anyone enters your home uninvited, he or she is fair game. If they get dead, that's how it goes.
Merely attempt to injure/immobilize the intruder?! Uh, nope. I'd go directly to lethal force.
Like I say, NO ONE who is not invited/welcome should EVER enter another's place of residence.
Case closed.
^^THIS^^
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I still don't understand... what is this article about? Is the family of the home invaders suing? Have they charged the old woman? Are we all just feigning outrage because the family is "bitching"?
let them complain. They're kind of weak, pathetic, soft minds that raise home invaders in the first place. I would expect anyone teaching their kids the culture of "steal from old ladies at home" also would cry like a punk when things end this way.
I guess I just don't know what the article is about. Their whining? That's what they're going to do. If they charge the old lady, I'll be just as pissed as anyone. But what are we talking about here? Just the shitty family that raised shitty kids, complaining about the outcome?
“They were on their way out the door, and I just think it was wrong that they were shot,” Sambrano’s sister told CBS Sacramento.
LOL! If that's it, screw her lol. She's pissed, cool, that's her issue. That's how she deals with the grief. Nobody takes her seriously. Nobody gives a fck. Nobody backing her, except other morons.
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how many shots did they each get?
Not enough
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She should counter sue for the cost of the bullets
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She should counter sue for the cost of the bullets
:D
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Would loved to have been one of those bullets.
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hahahha 333 will like this
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The stupid little fuckers got what they deserved, praying on the weak like that. That's why you don't fuck around with anyone. Anyone can pull a trigger and exercise street justice.
Totally deserved. I think it's always justified. You don't accidentally break into someone's home, and no one knows what an intruder is there to do or if they'll be back. That's why it's important to make sure they don't return like in this case. Fuck the family of the deceased too. Lick your wounds and raise the rest of your shitty children right.
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The stupid little fuckers got what they deserved, praying on the weak like that. That's why you don't fuck around with anyone. Anyone can pull a trigger and exercise street justice.
Totally deserved. I think it's always justified. You don't accidentally break into someone's home, and no one knows what an intruder is there to do or if they'll be back. That's why it's important to make sure they don't return like in this case. Fuck the family of the deceased too. Lick your wounds and raise the rest of your shitty children right.
We need more of this kind of street justice to send a message to future would be offenders; for the same reason we need the death penalty..