Stevan Segal - accomplished martial arts expert!

[NaturalWonder83]

hes good

[drkaje]

I'm not familiar with VJJ but have heard it's really good shit from trustworthy people.

[noworries]

A 40 year old has been diabetic walking marshmellow.  I don't have anything to prove.  VeeArnisJitsu is a system unlike anything out there.  If you think the shit Steven Segal does is anything but theatrics and bullshit your fat ass has never been in a real life or death fight.  

Here's a sampling of VAJ and what Professor James teaches skip to 1:21 and the real shit begins. 

How dumb are you.  who gives a fuck about others.  It doesn't mean you have ever taken it or if you did you aren't any.h good.  Are you like people who say shit like my dad is a plumber so I know everything about plumbing or my dad is an accountant so I know accounting.  See twinkie I see right through your skinny old ass.  You talk shit yet can never prove anything.  Post some videos of your fights.  Post a photo of you doing anything but blowing some guy.  Liek I said you can type with one finger and that's about it. 

[Danimal77]

I am just reading the National paper online (The Herald Sun - Australia) and there is a story about Stevan Segal, the actor wanting to become an honorary member of Costa Rica's Police force.  Anyway, they described him as a martial arts expert! Can anyone confirm if and at what martial art he is a supposed expert, I just assumed he was another B Grade actor, plus the guy never looks in shape, he always looks like he just finished a bucket of KFC.  How would he go in the UFC?

You clearly no nothing about martial arts. He holds 10th Dan in Aikido.

[Danimal77]

Aikido is total BS in any type or normal streetfight, he wated decades getting that belt and now anyone that has trained 1-2 year in any hard "mma" like vale tudo or wrestling etc could kick his ass.

That's an ignorant and bullshit claim. I've been practicing Aikido for 8.5 years now and trust me, what you see in Above The Law is the REAL SHIT. These MMA guys would not be able to TOUCH, let alone do ANYTHING to Segal. He can take on more than one guy at a time.. Go to a fucking Aikido dojo and watch any black belt (I just got mine) do a demonstration. All these tough 20 year old kids shooting their mouth because of the MMA and guys like Brock Lesnar. It's fucking bullshit. The bigger they are, the harder THEY WILL FALL.

[galain]

What you see in Above the Law may or may not be the real shit, but dude,

"...These MMA guy would not be able to TOUCH, let alone do ANYTHING to Segal..."

You DO know what happened to him when he mouthed off in front of Gene Lebell, don't you?

[io856]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/94751/steven_seagal_7th_dan_aikido/

This is awesome stuff

[phreak]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/94751/steven_seagal_7th_dan_aikido/

This is awesome stuff

It's "dancing with the stars" in black&white.

[devilsmile]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/94751/steven_seagal_7th_dan_aikido/

This is awesome stuff

I love that music... gets me pumped...

[io856]

It's "dancing with the stars" in black&white.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it...

Take another look

[dj181]

When I read 40 year marshmellow, I thought that it was a statement about steven seDULL :> Put ANY resonably experience boxer into a street fight or bar fight with an MMA or martial "artist" and they WILL get their plows cleaned LOL These boxers are lightening fast and the throw punches with power. A few quick jabs for a stunner and the a right cross and then it's lights out

[io856]

When I read 40 year marshmellow, I thought that it was a statement about steven seDULL :> Put ANY resonably experience boxer into a street fight or bar fight with an MMA or martial "artist" and they WILL get their plows cleaned LOL These boxers are lightening fast and the throw punches with power. A few quick jabs for a stunner and the a right cross and then it's lights out

bullshit

I have seen a few street fights end up on the ground

what does the boxer do then.. seconds from tapping out like a bitch

[Tapeworm]

He puts it wherever he wants to.

[phreak]

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it...

Take another look

I've gone one better and asked an actual black belt in aikido (who also holds one in karate, and is working on his black belt in budo jitsu). When asked what move he would use when someone comes running at him, he replied "I'd punch him or kick him in the balls".

That's one of my employees I'm not firing... ever!

[io856]

I've gone one better and asked an actual black belt in aikido (who also holds one in karate, and is working on his black belt in budo jitsu). When asked what move he would use when someone comes running at him, he replied "I'd punch him or kick him in the balls".

That's one of my employees I'm not firing... ever!

haha ok 

[dj181]

You really think that even one of these martial artists or MMA guys could even get a hold of Roy Jones Jr. much less put him on the ground? First of all, they aren't quick and fast enough to do that, and secondly they couldn't stand the barrage of lightening fast punches.

[io856]

You really think that even one of these martial artists or MMA guys could even get a hold of Roy Jones Jr. much less put him on the ground? First of all, they aren't quick and fast enough to do that, and secondly they couldn't stand the barrage of lightening fast punches.

Most definitely

Its actually quite hilarious to see a trained boxer humiliated fight a person highly skilled in BJJ.

[Darren Avey]

Most definitely

Its actually quite hilarious to see a trained boxer humiliated fight a person highly skilled in BJJ.

Ive acutually seen a HW boxer fight a BJJ guy on the street, the boxer chucked him around and really badly hurt him. I thought JJ guy was dead

[noworries]

I'm no boxer or jiu-jitsu expert but what fights I have been in ended up mostly me grabbing the guy and either slamming his head on the ground or table or into a wall.  I have never had anyone get away from me once I grab them.  I have knocked out quite a few people too. I even choked a guy out once back when I was with Rorian Gracie. My friends used to say I hit harder than anyone they've seen.  But in reality my old friend Craig Kukuk hit harder than me and anyone I have ever seen up close.  Anyone who has taken Gracie Jiu-Jitsu would know who Craig is.  If he was allowed to fight in the UFC back in the early 90's he would have been champion no doubt.  And anyone who knows Craig would say the same thing.  In fact the Gracies themselves said the same thing (till their falling out).  Craig was the first american black belt in Gracies jiu-jitsu in which I introduced him too.  In addition, I have a feeling not many of you have actually seen Segal in person.  I know he is fat now but that comes with age.  I saw him back in the early 90's or late 80's at a casino as we walked by each other.  And I gotta tell you he is a very big guy.  I know several people who know him and he was very solid and strong.  It comes with being tall with the long arms.  There is no doubt he can fight no matter what people are saying.  Just his size and strength make him somewhat of a threat.

[dj181]

I have a question for you Keith, do you think that Gracie or Segal would have had a chance against Roy Jones Jr. in a street fight? I'm talking about when they were in their primes.

[noworries]

I have a question for you Keith, do you think that Gracie or Segal would have had a chance against Roy Jones Jr. in a street fight? I'm talking about when they were in their primes.

Not if Jones hit them.  But Gracie's thing and thought process at least back then was 90% of street fights end up on the ground.  A few punches are taken then the guys usually grab each other and that is when GJJ takes over.  I think that if Jones doesn;t knock them out with the first or second punch and gracie got ahold him it would be over.  They proved that hundreds of not thousands of times with punchers.  Back then we didn't punch except to get a guy to turn over so you can choke him out or to get a guy to raise his hands so you can shoot in and get ahold of him.  The thing about my friend Craig was he was a devasting puncher that became great at GJJ.  So he had the stand up skill and the ground skill.  And this was back before the UFC started.  He was a solid 190 would absolutely light up Liddell.  I have no doubts about that at all.  Craig was tough and strong and very very fast

[XFACTOR]

Hey fuck stick I trained under David James out of New York City and Bayonne New Jersey.  Come on up to our schools and I'll show you what real "martial arts" is all about.  www.veearnisjitsu.com  Steven Segal is fucking bullshit.  Sorry to ruin your world and everything you believe in .  LMAO! Fucking getbig.........

What a douche.  Big deal so you trained under David Carradine after a few episodes of kung fu now you're the getbig tough guy.

[James Blunt]

Not if Jones hit them.  But Gracie's thing and thought process at least back then was 90% of street fights end up on the ground.  A few punches are taken then the guys usually grab each other and that is when GJJ takes over.  I think that if Jones doesn;t knock them out with the first or second punch and gracie got ahold him it would be over.  They proved that hundreds of not thousands of times with punchers.  Back then we didn't punch except to get a guy to turn over so you can choke him out or to get a guy to raise his hands so you can shoot in and get ahold of him.  The thing about my friend Craig was he was a devasting puncher that became great at GJJ.  So he had the stand up skill and the ground skill.  And this was back before the UFC started.  He was a solid 190 would absolutely light up Liddell.  I have no doubts about that at all.  Craig was tough and strong and very very fast

I honestly can;t see anyone simply lighting up Chuck Liddell. He can be caught in an exchange, but absolutely lit up. lolz. It's the iceman SON.

[noworries]

What a douche.  Big deal so you trained under David Carradine after a few episodes of kung fu now you're the getbig tough guy.

Exactly,  I hate it when people say shit like that.  I trained under the Gracies and I am about as far away from being any good as you can get.  even though they had high hopes for me.  I have some of the best baseball coaches anywhere and that didn't help me get into the majors or the hall of Fame.  I played tennis with Bjorn Borg in front of 5000 people that sure didn't make me pro material.  I don't get guys like McPenis.

I honestly can;t see anyone simply lighting up Chuck Liddell. He can be caught in an exchange, but absolutely lit up. lolz. It's the iceman SON.

Well I have seen both fight.  And maybe not lit up but Chuck doesn't have the best of jaws and I have seen Craig get popped clean just so he would get pissed off enough and it didn't phase him.  I would say it would be a great fight but I would bet on Craig 9 out of 10 times.  of course i am doing something I hate.  Making predictions for things that will never happen like when people try to predict who would win between Tyson and Lesnor or whoever.  I hate that.  It will never happen so why worry about it.................... but I would still take Craig

[phreak]

What a douche.  Big deal so you trained under David Carradine after a few episodes of kung fu now you're the getbig tough guy.

Carradine had such good BJJ he could choke himself.