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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: 5antasy on March 23, 2012, 03:54:27 PM
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Just pinned 100mg prop, 80mg tren, and 140mg sust this morning (which has caused ZERO pain thus far). I'm waiting to see how bad tren sides are cause I'd like to up it to 100mg eod if I can handle it. When will I know if I can up it?
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100 EOD didn`t bother me at all.
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Well arent we a patient one? haha.
Id say just to be safe 10-14 days. Your using tren ace so it should be no issue to play with the dose to avoid sides/push the limit. You may not even get sides, all indvidual.
Enjoy your tren
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Well arent we a patient one? haha.
Id say just to be safe 10-14 days. Your using tren ace so it should be no issue to play with the dose to avoid sides/push the limit. You may not even get sides, all indvidual.
Enjoy your tren
Lol hella impatient. I'm already think for my second injection just say fuck it and pin 100 haha
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Not sure if we are comparing apples and oranges, but that's what i hear some say comparing Tren A & E.
Going into 3 months using Tren E (200mg e7 days - now every 4/5th day last few weeks with 125mg test with every shot alternated with 125 eq)- hardly any sides, except insomnia at times. Other than that absolutely nothing.
Results are certainly there - have leaned downed dramatically with visible ab lines. Started off with test, eq, & dbol.
Strength is about the same or more. The strength is likely offset as i am trying to cut BF (T3-75mcg ed & 100-150mcg Clen ed)to the low 10s (about 11-13% now). Want to stick to these levels and tone a little bit more.
Most impressively the legs and arms are vascular as hell (shoulders there however not as much). Overall it's an amazing compound.
But then again do i really have the "nectar of the gods" - Tren A. ;D
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Just pinned 100mg prop, 80mg tren, and 140mg sust this morning (which has caused ZERO pain thus far). I'm waiting to see how bad tren sides are cause I'd like to up it to 100mg eod if I can handle it. When will I know if I can up it?
What a shit username
Just sayin
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I have my cousin on roughly 350mg tren ace weekly. He just started so its been about 6 days and he is burning up at night and can't sleep. This was after 3 days, and he doesn't even know what I'm giving him! The response to any steroid is highly individual. It also depends on the quality of the product...
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what sides are you talking about specifically? i donmt really get sides on it
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i get almost no sides at 100mg eod,i sleep like a cow,sweat little more,sometimes i am more nervous when i should not be,but besides this,nothing.
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For those who say tren gives them no sides - try a fast jog around the block sometime. Post again when you've waddled back and caught your breath a bit... ;D
Had to run to catch a train a while back - calves/shins pumped up to bad I could hardly move for ten minutes. Bloody agony.
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I got the shitty insomnia and heavy sleep sweats about 1 week in of 50-100 a day.
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About a week in for me. Lay there and stare at the ceiling all night while trying to go to sleep. Weird thing is I am never tired during the day either.
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I NOTICED THE SIDES WHEN I HAD TEST IN MY SYSTEM & WHEN I EAT A LOT OF SHITTY FOOD, INJECT THE TREN A, THEN GO TO BED. I SWEAT LIKE CRAZY THEN.
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For those who say tren gives them no sides - try a fast jog around the block sometime. Post again when you've waddled back and caught your breath a bit... ;D
Had to run to catch a train a while back - calves/shins pumped up to bad I could hardly move for ten minutes. Bloody agony.
Well that sucks. I'm training for a half marathon.
Guess I'll just keep it at 80mg for the next 2-3 shots, and if I don't experience anything too severe, I'll up it to 100.
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For those who say tren gives them no sides - try a fast jog around the block sometime. Post again when you've waddled back and caught your breath a bit... ;D
Had to run to catch a train a while back - calves/shins pumped up to bad I could hardly move for ten minutes. Bloody agony.
NOTHING LIKE THAT TO ME.
ONLY THING THAT GIVES ME INSANE PUMPS IS THIS STRANGO VAR COUPLED WITH LOW WATER INTAKE AND A SHIT TON OF SHITTY FOOD. EVERYTIME I GET UP I CRAMP UP.
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Tren ace sides are pretty much immediate.... but its dosage dependant 100eod is pretty mild.... get back to us when/if you venture into the 200mg ED realm ;D
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I think those that say they get zero sides are talking utter BS.... i think some people have just been abusing the stuff for so long that they have forgotten what its actually like to be normal.
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3rd day on 80mg eod. Knocked out 7 miles in 55 minutes (with a 5 minute break at the 30 minute mark). No issues whatsoever. I'm hoping it stays this way.
Question about the sexual "side effects". I hear people say you can fuck forever. What does that mean? Inability to cum fast, or just raging boners?
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3rd day on 80mg eod. Knocked out 7 miles in 55 minutes (with a 5 minute break at the 30 minute mark). No issues whatsoever. I'm hoping it stays this way.
Question about the sexual "side effects". I hear people say you can fuck forever. What does that mean? Inability to cum fast, or just raging boners?
PEOPLE SAY BOTH BUT PEOPLE ARE USUALLY ON CABER WHICH WILL DO THE LASTING LONGER. I DONT USE CABER, I USE B6, I JUST GET RAGING BONERS AND CUM AS NORMAL. MY LOADS ARE HUGE BUT I ALSO USE CLOMID EOD. PHARM GRADE, 50MG EOD THAT MAKES MY LOADS LITERALLY SOAK THE GIRLS. :D
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PEOPLE SAY BOTH BUT PEOPLE ARE USUALLY ON CABER WHICH WILL DO THE LASTING LONGER. I DONT USE CABER, I USE B6, I JUST GET RAGING BONERS AND CUM AS NORMAL. MY LOADS ARE HUGE BUT I ALSO USE CLOMID EOD. PHARM GRADE, 50MG EOD THAT MAKES MY LOADS LITERALLY SOAK THE GIRLS. :D
haha clomid does that? It sounds weird but I've always wanted to blow monster loads since I try to bust in chicks' faces every time lol
Caber slows down ejaculation? May wanna try that. When I run test I get so horny I bust in 30 seconds. It's kinda embarrassing sometimes.
I'm running 12.5mg aromasin eod for prolactin/estrogen sides while on tren/testp/sust. Should I switch it to caber? And are you running clomid ON cycle? What's purpose?
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im running 600mg tren ace from str 3 weeks in tomorrow inject daily
75/75/75/75/100/100/100 doing caber 1x every five days havent got any sides much just out of breath smelly sweat during training n cough but body comp changes are awesome getting harder at same weight more veins in my chest n legs great shit
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insomnia day 3 for me, along with sweats
acne day 30ish, bad when you come off
shutdown of HPTA hard, have some clomid ready accutane if you can handle it
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Well, now I see what everyone's talking about.
Last night was night 3. Couldn't sleep, tossing and turning all night. No sweats, but bad headache and bodyaches like I have a fever from exhaustion or catching flu or something. By 7am I couldn't take it, so I popped 2 acetominafens and 1/2 a percocet. I rarely take pain killers but man I needed them. Felt better for a few hours and got a bit of sleep. Since I woke up, I've been groggy as SHIT with a pounding headache. Not sure how I'm going to make it to the gym. Oh, and add to that the debilitating PIP in glutes, and makes for a very unpleasant time. Now I see how bodybuilders become drug addicts, and this is all on 80mg eod.
Time to up the dose?
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Well, now I see what everyone's talking about.
Last night was night 3. Couldn't sleep, tossing and turning all night. No sweats, but bad headache and bodyaches like I have a fever from exhaustion or catching flu or something. By 7am I couldn't take it, so I popped 2 acetominafens and 1/2 a percocet. I rarely take pain killers but man I needed them. Felt better for a few hours and got a bit of sleep. Since I woke up, I've been groggy as SHIT with a pounding headache. Not sure how I'm going to make it to the gym. Oh, and add to that the debilitating PIP in glutes, and makes for a very unpleasant time. Now I see how bodybuilders become drug addicts, and this is all on 80mg eod.
Time to up the dose?
I posted earlier about this but I really think to run more than 50mg ED or EOD means needing some GH or other meds to ward off the sides.
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I posted earlier about this but I really think to run more than 50mg ED or EOD means needing some GH or other meds to ward off the sides.
I'm on 5iu thanktropin ed for almost 2 months now.
Just had one of the worst workouts of my life. I'm tired, out of energy and strength, dizzy, and groggy. Does this get better or worse? What meds do people take? I don't really like feeling shitty like this. I'm gonna stop it or drop the dosage if it persists.
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Im currently on 75mg eod tren and 2nd week no side affects
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bunch of low dosing pussies in here lol what is the logic behind taking 70mg/eod when the half life is 20hrs. take 35mg/day and your sides will be 50% lower minimum
I didn't have any bad sides on 70 to 100mg/day the first time I've ever ran tren a. The acne is the worst part and I would do some accutane if I could get it. That would help for taking the clomid for pct too because that shit makes my acne worse.
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bunch of low dosing pussies in here lol what is the logic behind taking 70mg/eod when the half life is 20hrs. take 35mg/day and your sides will be 50% lower minimum
I didn't have any bad sides on 70 to 100mg/day the first time I've ever ran tren a. The acne is the worst part and I would do some accutane if I could get it. That would help for taking the clomid for pct too because that shit makes my acne worse.
THE HALF LIFE OF TREN IS ONLY 20 HOURS? I THOUGHT IT WAS 48?
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the ester is responsible for the 1/2 life and tren ace is about 20 hours, but there is still some hormone active for 50 hours, just only 20% maybe
prop is very similar, you want to inject ED for the most stable blood levels, which is key for max gains and min sides
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the ester is responsible for the 1/2 life and tren ace is about 20 hours, but there is still some hormone active for 50 hours, just only 20% maybe
prop is very similar, you want to inject ED for the most stable blood levels, which is key for max gains and min sides
The only reason I'm not pinning ed is the debilitating pip. I can't imagine walking around with that pain everyday. At least with eod the glute has some time to recover.
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Like all the other's stated.. sides are highly individual and everybody reacts differently
I get no sides on over 2 grams of tren
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On 100mg eod, no noticeable sides other than a (really heavy) acne flare up, which seems to subside (or at least not get any worse). Injecting ~30m before going to bed.
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Like all the other's stated.. sides are highly individual and everybody reacts differently
I get no sides on over 2 grams of tren
But you get no benefits either?
i remember your thread, but i stopped following so do you mind give an update on how things went with the tren?
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But you get no benefits either?
i remember your thread, but i stopped following so do you mind give an update on how things went with the tren?
Yup, exactly...
Long story short, I just don't respond well at all to tren... sucks man lol
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On 100mg eod, no noticeable sides other than a (really heavy) acne flare up, which seems to subside (or at least not get any worse). Injecting ~30m before going to bed.
So are you still running it? Not commenting on you but I have friends who's acne was straight up disgusting. I didnt get the tradeoff for being big but loaded with acne.
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So are you still running it? Not commenting on you but I have friends who's acne was straight up disgusting. I didnt get the tradeoff for being big but loaded with acne.
Yes, I'm still running it. It looked pretty terrible for some 10-11 days, starting after 2-3 injections. Now it's almost back to normal (~3 weeks in). Benefit:Risk is still in favor of Tren for me.
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I had some light acne when I started, it got slightly worse after a couple weeks of 70mg/day of ace, then got bad after day 35ish, then is got really bad after day 50 and when I came off. I am off for a few weeks now and my face is clear, my head has 3 pimples and my shoulders and chest are clearing up. My back has many small zits left but they are clearing up, I expect to be acne free in a month or so.
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Yup, exactly...
Long story short, I just don't respond well at all to tren... sucks man lol
if you dont respond to it you wont respond to any anabolic..seriously there is something wrong with your genes there. Most likely androgen insensitivity
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Ok, update on my sides. It's been exactly 1 week now at 80mg eod.
1- Sides are all gone (except insomnia, which I'll get to). No more nausea, fatigue feeling, decreased appetite, headache, grogginess, etc. I feel just fine.
2- trensomnia is a bitch, but not really that bad. I only sleep a couple of minutes at a time, constantly in and out of sleep throughout the night. CONSTANTLY. Never feeling satisfied from sleeping but not that bad either. A glass of wine before bed helps, and the more drunk the better (for sleep, i know it's not good for health).
3- I am GOD. No, I don't feel like a god, I AM GOD. And every girl fucking knows it. I'm thicker, fuller, and within one week girls cant stay off me. I just boned a random in the hot tub last night 30 minutes after meeting her. Busted real quick though lol
4- time to up the dose like the big boys. 100mg eod is probably the next shot and see how that feels. BUT! shedding like a guy!! god damn it took me so long to get some hair back through rogaine, propecia, and nizoral, and now it's shedding by the minute on this shit. Does this grow back?!!
Overall, aside from the hair thing, can't see myself cycling without tren in the mix.
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Does this grow back?!!
Overall, aside from the hair thing, can't see myself cycling without tren in the mix.
Might as well shave your head now if you plan on keepin tren in the mix and its giving you balding already.
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the ester is responsible for the 1/2 life and tren ace is about 20 hours, but there is still some hormone active for 50 hours, just only 20% maybe
prop is very similar, you want to inject ED for the most stable blood levels, which is key for max gains and min sides
do you have a source for that?
bio half life for injections has a lot to do with the clearance time of the injection depot and so it's a bit more complicated than bio degradation rate
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just basic knowledge of chemistry, and not trusting other bullshit sources that claim anywhere from 36 to 72 hours, and based on my own usage. A half life is affected by temp, moisture, light and many other things, especially the conditions inside a human body. If it has a certain half life on a shelf in a cold dry dark room of 48 hours, inside me it probably degrades twice as fast or faster.
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If you're balding already and taking tren kiss your hair goodbye