Author Topic: An open letter to Bob Chic (Read 14355 times)

Melvin Goodrum · « **Reply #100 on:** April 02, 2008, 03:53:47 PM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on April 02, 2008, 03:44:04 PM

Thanks, Bob, for self-owning yourself. Bottom line is you make money out of what you do so that is why you don't want to change anything. What a niche you have made for yourself. King of the pros. The voice and face of bodybuilding.

The athlete's representative doesn't pay anything, dumbass. Chick gets no compensation whatsoever.

Even if he was doing a poor job which he isn't, its certainly better than complaining about issues and not doing a damn thing.

BTW, in case you've forgotten, you're not a pro bodybuilder so it doesn't even concern you anyway

dearth · « **Reply #101 on:** April 02, 2008, 03:54:59 PM »

the NPC ended AAU bodybuilding?? and you wonder why people call you Manion's lapdog.

AAU bodybuilding ended because of threat of drug testing law suits, and general mis-managment.
by your logic, everyone in the AAU went to the NPC. not true.
the NPC's drug testing (much like the IFBB's) is a joke.

Much to your dismay, Natural organinzations have more than 10 people in attendance.
I see you like to exaggerate the attendance of the olympia. there were more like 7000 in attendance, not 10,000.

Quote from: Chick on April 01, 2008, 07:51:26 PM

I appreciate your letter, Howie...no need for apologies for having beliefs that others may or may not share. You're a true fan of the sport in every sense of the word.

I don't believe BB will ever have to go through the witchhunting thats going on in pro Baseball due to the simple fact that we aren't even on the radar screen when it comes to money and interest...

It wasn't drug testing, etc that ended the AAU, it was the NPC that ended them....case and point: the NPC has not only endured, but grown in every aspect over the years having more shows and members than at any point in it's history.

Your own statement kind of answers itself:

"In is my strong belief that NO pro or top amatuer athlete should have to risk breaking the law just to compete fairly. "

No pro or top amateur HAS to risk breaking the law, nor do thay HAVE to compete unfairly. They can choose to compete in the drug tested shows, natural organizations...ensuring they are on equal par with others that share the same mindset.

At the end of the day, it the fans that dictate what level of competition they want to support....and they have spoken loudly....not just in BB, but every sport...they want bigger, stronger, faster, and freakier...thats why there were 10,000 people at the Olympia, and 10 people at the last natural show.

It's not like the athletes that compete are exactly chomping at the bit rallying for drug testing, either....it is what it is.

Vince B · « **Reply #102 on:** April 02, 2008, 03:58:22 PM »

I am a professional bodybuilder because I own a gym. That was the NABBA test. Those pro cards are lame and make bodybuilder a Pavlov sport.

HowieW · « **Reply #103 on:** April 02, 2008, 03:59:32 PM »

Quote from: dearth on April 02, 2008, 03:54:59 PM

the NPC ended AAU bodybuilding?? and you wonder why people call you Manion's lapdog.

AAU bodybuilding ended because of threat of drug testing law suits, and general mis-managment.
by your logic, everyone in the AAU went to the NPC. not true.
the NPC's drug testing (much like the IFBB's) is a joke.

Much to your dismay, Natural organinzations have more than 10 people in attendance.
I see you like to exaggerate the attendance of the olympia. there were more like 7000 in attendance, not 10,000.

BOTH the increased status of the NPC in 1980's along with the Charles Durr law suit ended the AAU physique shows and Mr America over a decade ago.
The AAU had already started too fade long before the law suit that nailed it shut in the mid 90's

Chick · « **Reply #104 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:02:44 PM »

Quote from: HowieW on April 02, 2008, 03:59:32 PM

BOTH the increased status of the NPC in 1980's along with the Charles Durr law suit ended the AAU physique shows and Mr America over a decade ago.
The AAU had already started too fade long before the law suit that nailed it shut in the mid 90's

THank you Howie,..beat me to the punch.

The AAU was dead LONG before any lawsuits, etc....

Ironically, it was the drug testing and subsequent results that led to the Charles Durr lawsuit, etc....when they DIDN'T test, they had few if any problems..lol.

Chick · « **Reply #105 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:03:39 PM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on April 02, 2008, 03:58:22 PM

I am a professional bodybuilder because I own a gym. That was the NABBA test. Those pro cards are lame and make bodybuilder a Pavlov sport.

LOL...kind of sums up what anyone thinks of a NABBA pro card, doesn't it?

Meltdown · « **Reply #106 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:05:20 PM »

The IOC would give IFBB Pros the best Fukin they ever had.50lb lighter and possible less health problems leading to a little longer life.The only good thing that could come from that is the younger guys would have an easier playing field competing instead of Bobs comments Abuse Drugs to compete as a Pro or RETIRE.FFS.What a great Fukin sport.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #107 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:08:00 PM »

Quote from: Meltdown on April 02, 2008, 04:05:20 PM

The IOC would give IFBB Pros the best Fukin they ever had.50lb lighter and possible less health problems leading to a little longer life.The only good thing that could come from that is the younger guys would have an easier playing field competing instead of Bobs comments Abuse Drugs to compete as a Pro or RETIRE.FFS.What a great Fukin sport.

what pros who have competed over the last 10 years have died of heart problems, Meltdown? besides Don Youngblood who had other problems.

HowieW · « **Reply #108 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:15:26 PM »

Quote from: Chick on April 02, 2008, 04:02:44 PM

THank you Howie,..beat me to the punch.

The AAU was dead LONG before any lawsuits, etc....

Ironically, it was the drug testing and subsequent results that led to the Charles Durr lawsuit, etc....when they DIDN'T test, they had few if any problems..lol.

Things worked better when it was the AAU drug tested Mr USA and Untested Mr America.
I was on the AAU America Comm, and voted to test the America along with a majority of others there in Louisville at our national meeting. Chairmen Ted Karnezis blew the testing due to failure to follow testing procdures to the letter.
I offered to come to the America that yr ( the yr Durr won and tested postive ), NOT judge and just oversee the drug testing. He blew it off and I simply told him , if he didn't want me, no biggy, just get somebody who knows the procedures and do it right. Ted was good guy, but if you drug test, you BETTER do it right or don't do it at all.
Mainion had the right idea with the tested Team U natural nationals and the rest of the reg nationals.
Give athletes a choice is my motto. The only trouble is that the GOV wants to tell everyone what they can put in their bodies. I wish this was NOT the law, it is pretty lame in my libertarian eyes .
Oh well I gotta train , see ya Howard

Meltdown · « **Reply #109 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:32:18 PM »

Squad it's not a death question we all Fukin Die it's the associated problems,these guys don't even have a cock or balls that work T3 for life as the thyroid shuts down HRTs for life as the balls shut down Insulin for life as the pancreas shuts the Fuk down.Now all that shit and for what.It's not death it's all the other shit the body has to live with.No Balls and a cock that doesn't work FUK THAT.Could you imagine sweet pussy laying beside you and your cock doesn't work now that is a true DEATH.

The Squadfather · « **Reply #110 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:35:02 PM »

Quote from: Meltdown on April 02, 2008, 04:32:18 PM

Squad it's not a death question we all Fukin Die it's the associated problems,these guys don't even have a cock or balls that work T3 for life as the thyroid shuts down HRTs for life as the balls shut down Insulin for life as the pancreas shuts the Fuk down.Now all that shit and for what.It's not death it's all the other shit the body has to live with.No Balls and a cock that doesn't work FUK THAT.Could you imagine sweet pussy laying beside you and your cock doesn't work now that is a true DEATH.

hahahahaa, how the fucck do you know that their "equipment" doesn't work? have you seen some of the pros wives and girlfriends? do you think these girls would marry or get involved with a dude who couldn't fucck them? did you see the hot little piece of ass Ronnie married? granted pros take a lot of shit but seems to me you'd hear of these guys dropping like flies if this shit was killing people.

Meltdown · « **Reply #111 on:** April 02, 2008, 04:44:10 PM »

Ask GH15 dude will tell it like it is.I am sure some are OK but they still have a lifetime of use just to function as a normal person.What do you think the Feds got Hide for apart from gear the charge was to do with Viagra now if the cock and balls work why so much cock pump drug.Hmmmmmmmmmmm?

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Meltdown · « **Reply #112 on:** April 02, 2008, 05:59:24 PM »

Chick is Hide still an IFBB Pro??I think in the Rules it says something about Banned substances Not sure if criminal conviction is mentioned.

Chick · « **Reply #113 on:** April 02, 2008, 06:14:23 PM »

Quote from: Meltdown on April 02, 2008, 05:59:24 PM

Chick is Hide still an IFBB Pro??I think in the Rules it says something about Banned substances Not sure if criminal conviction is mentioned.

Not sure if he's applied for a card for 2008...That said, all charges were dropped.

Meltdown · « **Reply #114 on:** April 02, 2008, 07:57:34 PM »

Chick if ALL charges were dropped and dude is innocent of all charges how come they put him on a plane outa here.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmm.FFS innocent but DEPORTED.hahahahah almost as good a joke as those IFBB Drug Rules.

Chick · « **Reply #115 on:** April 02, 2008, 08:05:45 PM »

Quote from: Meltdown on April 02, 2008, 07:57:34 PM

Chick if ALL charges were dropped and dude is innocent of all charges how come they put him on a plane outa here.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmm.FFS innocent but DEPORTED.hahahahah almost as good a joke as those IFBB Drug Rules.

Because the charges that were brought up (and subsequently dropped) were US court charges...he still had to answer to Japan. This is common with people who are not US citizens...

Meltdown · « **Reply #116 on:** April 02, 2008, 08:09:05 PM »

So was it all dropped in Japan and I guess he will be back in a couple of weeks Esp now he is innocent.Viagra is a Helluva Drug.

Chick · « **Reply #117 on:** April 02, 2008, 08:10:15 PM »

Quote from: Meltdown on April 02, 2008, 08:09:05 PM

So was it all dropped in Japan and I guess he will be back in a couple of weeks Esp now he is innocent.Viagra is a Helluva Drug.

Go back and listen to the interview we did with Hide on PBW a few weeks ago...he addresses those very questions.

benz · « **Reply #118 on:** April 02, 2008, 08:11:03 PM »

Quote from: Chick on April 02, 2008, 08:05:45 PM

Because the charges that were brought up (and subsequently dropped) were US court charges...he still had to answer to Japan. This is common with people who are not US citizens...

Yo chic, you are a cool dude

i love you man

Meltdown · « **Reply #119 on:** April 02, 2008, 08:14:49 PM »

At least he knows he will never be tested for Drugs as an IFBB Pro unlike the airport customs guys.Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmThey check everyone.

Melvin Goodrum · « **Reply #120 on:** April 03, 2008, 07:07:45 AM »

Quote from: Vince Basile on April 02, 2008, 03:58:22 PM

I am a professional bodybuilder because I own a gym. That was the NABBA test. Those pro cards are lame and make bodybuilder a Pavlov sport.

That's why the IFBB is the top dog. You have to EARN YOUR PRO CARD. Even the WNBF wouldn't resort to B.S. like that. Your pro card is as worthless as Jack London's. Whether you like him or not, Chick earned his pro card the true and right way.

Owning a gym makes you a professional......oh boy

dearth · « **Reply #121 on:** April 03, 2008, 08:57:09 AM »

this doesn't quite address your ridiculous claim that the npc ended the aau.

Newsflash for you bob - There are many amateur natural organizations in the USA, outside of manions empire.

Quote from: Chick on April 02, 2008, 04:02:44 PM

THank you Howie,..beat me to the punch.

The AAU was dead LONG before any lawsuits, etc....

Ironically, it was the drug testing and subsequent results that led to the Charles Durr lawsuit, etc....when they DIDN'T test, they had few if any problems..lol.

Chick · « **Reply #122 on:** April 03, 2008, 09:06:47 AM »

Quote from: dearth on April 03, 2008, 08:57:09 AM

this doesn't quite address your ridiculous claim that the npc ended the aau.

Newsflash for you bob - There are many amateur natural organizations in the USA, outside of manions empire.

Why do you believe it to be ridiculous?

I was there. I was competing throughout the whole thing...there was no question to anyone in the industry that the NPC just took over.

No one said there weren'tnatural orgs outside of the NPC....whats that got to do with anything?

dearth · « **Reply #123 on:** April 03, 2008, 09:14:40 AM »

I was also there.
The aau died a slow death for sure, but to say that the NPC took over is simply incorrect.
If the NPC truly "took over" as you say, then they would have rights to the Mr. America title, which they do not.

Quote from: Chick on April 03, 2008, 09:06:47 AM

Why do you believe it to be ridiculous?

I was there. I was competing throughout the whole thing...there was no question to anyone in the industry that the NPC just took over.

No one said there weren'tnatural orgs outside of the NPC....whats that got to do with anything?

Chick · « **Reply #124 on:** April 03, 2008, 09:30:19 AM »

Quote from: dearth on April 03, 2008, 09:14:40 AM

I was also there.
The aau died a slow death for sure, but to say that the NPC took over is simply incorrect.
If the NPC truly "took over" as you say, then they would have rights to the Mr. America title, which they do not.

wow.....

I didn't mean they "literally" took over...thought that was fairly obvious

that said...the funny part was they went to court over the rights to the names, and in the end...it didn't matter (or help the AAU)