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Title: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: The True Adonis on January 03, 2006, 10:43:33 PM
WTF?

Someone is going to get hurt.  What are they thinking?
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 03, 2006, 10:46:44 PM
WTF?

Someone is going to get hurt.  What are they thinking?

  So Bill Phillips was right? ;D ::)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: gibberj2 on January 03, 2006, 11:03:44 PM
one day that ball is going to pop
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: GigantorX on January 03, 2006, 11:08:35 PM
Can someone please tell me when this whole 'swiss ball' movement got underway? Swiss ball everything it seems, but squats seems a bit out there.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Stallion on January 03, 2006, 11:36:47 PM
Can someone please tell me when this whole 'swiss ball' movement got underway? Swiss ball everything it seems, but squats seems a bit out there.

Blame the personal trainers and their core-training philosophies.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Croatch on January 04, 2006, 12:22:39 AM
I'm a personal trainer and I say core ball=people who don't want to lift real weight.  To me, it's a joke.  You want to strengthen your "core", do some fucking sit ups and put that retarded ball away.  I don't use a core ball and my abs would own most "coreball" users.  Amazing!!!
Croatch on... :o
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Post by: Karl Kox on January 04, 2006, 12:25:38 AM
thats gay
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: fathead on January 04, 2006, 12:29:48 AM
Imagine Ronnie trying to do them 800 pound squats on that thing.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: healthiswealth on January 04, 2006, 01:36:37 AM
PUSSAYS!!!

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=205365)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=30417.0;id=27995;image)
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 04, 2006, 01:45:40 AM
What is the point of the ball? You have more stability on the ground. Another gimmick.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Tombo on January 04, 2006, 02:47:07 AM
building balance and other shit i assume.. dude imagine falling off.... thats really retarded.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: fathead on January 04, 2006, 02:50:54 AM
How about military presses on a uni-cycle?  Maybe deadlifts while on a off a skateboard...     Really works those stabilizers !!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mars on January 04, 2006, 02:53:08 AM
Balls are gayer then gayclub Lorenzo on a bustrip to Disneyland.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Bluto on January 04, 2006, 02:58:24 AM
How about military presses on a uni-cycle?  Maybe deadlifts while on a off a skateboard...     Really works those stabilizers !!

Skateboards ey... now that's an idea!  ;D
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Beyond Genetics on January 04, 2006, 03:39:21 AM
I've had some female clients do that,,,  but on a Bosu.
Same effect, only stable.
I would never balance their ass on a fitness ball, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

(http://www.fitnessforhealth.com/catalog/images/bosu.jpg)
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: phyxsius on January 04, 2006, 03:50:51 AM
They don't love their ankles
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Slick Vic on January 04, 2006, 08:01:38 AM
WTF?

Someone is going to get hurt.  What are they thinking?
You got to be fuckin' kidding me.  :-\
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on January 04, 2006, 08:03:19 AM
BAM BAM BAM!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: chafed_nut_sack420 on January 04, 2006, 08:41:49 AM
I would like to know how you get on a ball with 135 on your back without killing yourself, let alone do a squat on it.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on January 04, 2006, 08:53:46 AM
I would like to know how you get on a ball with 135 on your back without killing yourself, let alone do a squat on it.


core strength
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: BB on January 04, 2006, 08:54:09 AM
Can someone please tell me when this whole 'swiss ball' movement got underway? Swiss ball everything it seems, but squats seems a bit out there.

They first showed up on the PT/rehab scene long ago. Later(10-15 yrs ago) a few strength coaches like Louie Simmons, Poliquin, Chek(extremer end) found they were useful for certain exercises(sit-ups, dumbbell presses, curls).

Now they seem to have been adopted by every pansy-ass personal trainer under the guise that they are the secret to functional strength.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: testicles on January 04, 2006, 08:54:51 AM
Can someone please tell me when this whole 'swiss ball' movement got underway? Swiss ball everything it seems, but squats seems a bit out there.


if youre into bodybuilding its totally useless, but its a great tool for developing core stability if youre interested in functional strength or athletic performance

i tried the squats but i couldnt even stand on the ball, let alone squat, let alone squat with weight ... to be able to do that with controll would require tremendous balance

the only things i do on the ball are dumbell presses with my feet together .... i use just about the same weight but it feels alot better
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Bigger Business on January 04, 2006, 09:02:09 AM
tremendous ball strength
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 04, 2006, 09:03:53 AM
Just another example of the fitness industry, and trainers, utilizing crap.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Bluto on January 04, 2006, 09:30:04 AM
Quote

the only things i do on the ball are dumbell presses with my feet together .... i use just about the same weight but it feels alot better

you serious?

imagine ronnie putting himself on a swiss ball and then go on to do db presses
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: jem123 on January 04, 2006, 09:37:28 AM
PUSSAYS!!!

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=205365)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=30417.0;id=27995;image)

Now that is funny! ;D
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: TooPowerful4u on January 04, 2006, 09:48:21 AM
PUSSAYS!!!

(http://forum.bodybuilding.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=205365)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=30417.0;id=27995;image)

OMFG i havent laughed this hard in a while.  Who has more photoshops?  MORE MORE MORE
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mike on January 04, 2006, 10:20:31 AM
What is the point of the ball? You have more stability on the ground. Another gimmick.

Exactly dipshit...that's why you use it, for IN-stability. 

Obvoiusly Stablility Balls aren't the best for building a physique but for rehabilitation, performance enhancement and general contitioning, they're great. 

Everyone know's how to do a fuckin floor crunch but showing a client how to do a Stability Ball crunch makes you look like a little more intelligent.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 04, 2006, 11:59:54 AM
Now that is funny! ;D

  This is just plainly dangerous and stupid :o. That trainer should be sued. >:(

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Howard on January 04, 2006, 12:01:17 PM
WTF?

Someone is going to get hurt.  What are they thinking?

This "movement" is charter member of the retarded exercises hall of fame ::)
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 04, 2006, 12:37:01 PM
I recall hearing from a few trainer friends of mine that the whole swiss ball thing got big here through personal trainers with their own studios not being able to afford a ton of equipment/weight so they started improvising exercises using these swiss balls, when you take into consideration that one of those balls costs about $20-30 it makes sense.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 04, 2006, 12:49:55 PM
I'm a personal trainer and I say core ball=people who don't want to lift real weight.  To me, it's a joke.  You want to strengthen your "core", do some fucking sit ups and put that retarded ball away.  I don't use a core ball and my abs would own most "coreball" users.  Amazing!!!
Croatch on... :o

Anyone can teach anyone to do a sit up and if your teaching your clients to do full "sit ups" then you don't know how to train your clients. The same as any monkey can teach how to bench press, do leg extensions, etc.

BTW, squatting on a ball is retarted!
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Post by: gibberj2 on January 04, 2006, 01:24:08 PM
what would you do if you had a son and he started training on that ball?
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 04, 2006, 01:32:09 PM
what would you do if you had a son and he started training on that ball?

My son's 8 and part of his training is on the ball and like adults it helps with his balance, strengthen stability muscles and proprioception.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on January 04, 2006, 01:33:08 PM
proprioception.

your son shouldn't be having sex at 8 dude
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 04, 2006, 01:34:07 PM
your son shouldn't be having sex at 8 dude

LOL ;D!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: FreakBB7243 on January 04, 2006, 01:50:36 PM
your son shouldn't be having sex at 8 dude
ahahahah...funny shit bro ;D
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 04, 2006, 01:53:58 PM
your son shouldn't be having sex at 8 dude

LOL
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 04, 2006, 01:57:04 PM
LOL, I kinda figured that word would have pretty much leave people wondering!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Stavios on January 04, 2006, 02:03:53 PM
I've had some female clients do that,,,  but on a Bosu.
Same effect, only stable.
I would never balance their ass on a fitness ball, that's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

(http://www.fitnessforhealth.com/catalog/images/bosu.jpg)

hahahhahaha I was at the gym the other day and I see this guy asking a trainer how to get big legs ( even that was funny cause if you wanna get big, don't ask a gym trainer). And the trainer told the guy to do squats on 2 little balloons like that.
and the funniest thing is the dude is doing this every legs workout with 5 lbs on each side of the bar and asking everybody to look if his form is correct
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 04, 2006, 09:48:47 PM
Exactly dipshit...that's why you use it, for IN-stability. 

Obvoiusly Stablility Balls aren't the best for building a physique but for rehabilitation, performance enhancement and general contitioning, they're great. 

Everyone know's how to do a fuckin floor crunch but showing a client how to do a Stability Ball crunch makes you look like a little more intelligent.

It doesn't do a damn thing you moron. It's just a gimmick to get people with short attention spans in the gym so the PTs can get money. It doesn't look intelligent, it looks ludicrous.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 04, 2006, 09:52:52 PM
I like to see some sweet looking honey bouncing on a big ball, it sure is fun to see her titis bouance and I wonder how it would feel to have her ride me :P

howie, you go from bashing drugs to daydreaming of womanizing. 

Something tells me you just applied your test band-aid...
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Post by: drkaje on January 05, 2006, 06:53:19 AM
Most of the time I feel people are just paying trainers to be their friends.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Princess L on January 07, 2006, 05:41:04 PM
WTF?

Someone is going to get hurt.  What are they thinking?

The guy is a world class surfer.  His training techniques must be doing something.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Kaliym73 on January 07, 2006, 06:07:45 PM
Now that's dangerous, I can only see someone getting hurt trying to do this.
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Post by: whodey on January 07, 2006, 09:03:58 PM
I am a female personal trainer and a fitness competitor and all of the other trainers use the ball and do all of these crazy techniques on the ball...and these balance moves and weird ball holds  ;D etc. etc. use core bords, bands, etc...and that is fine if their clients like it but personally...my clients want RESULTS. that's why they pay me and I'm going to work their asses off and not sit them on a ball and tell them to that stability training is the only way to get the body they want.

And they look at me training my clients with just iron and think I don't know sh*t about training!  It makes me so freaking mad.....Like I dont know anything about training people because I'm old school and am not certified by one of the "new"  ball certifications/NASMS etc...

Bottom line, even regular people, not bodybuilders will benefit from doing basic heavy lifting, cardio and eating right. It's not f-ing rocket science!

PS As a trainer, I do agree some people hire trainers to be their friends, which is very sad and pathetic but there are some who probably would never work out if they didn't  make a financial committment. once again kind of sad...
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 09:06:36 PM
You got it! But if these suckers really want to play with balls maybe you should indulge the fools!
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Post by: whodey on January 07, 2006, 09:11:38 PM
i  would totally play with their balls if they had any!
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Post by: brianX on January 07, 2006, 09:20:07 PM
I'm declaring a Jihad against Swiss Balls.
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 07, 2006, 09:20:34 PM



Bottom line, even regular people, not bodybuilders will benefit from doing basic heavy lifting, cardio and eating right. It's not f-ing rocket science!



True, but any trainer can teach the basics, it takes an experianced trainer to go beyond the basics and take your client to the next level. To be a great trainer your clients should be complete..meaning, not only the primary muscles should be strong and developed but also stabilizers as well as conditioning. Any trainer can just take money and persuade their client that their making progress. Learn to train your clients like an athlete (at their level) and you have well rounded, happy client!!
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 09:39:11 PM
True, but any trainer can teach the basics, it takes an experianced trainer to go beyond the basics and take your client to the next level. To be a great trainer your clients should be complete..meaning, not only the primary muscles should be strong and developed but also stabilizers as well as conditioning. Any trainer can just take money and persuade their client that their making progress. Learn to train your clients like an athlete (at their level) and you have well rounded, happy client!!

hahaha. What a fag. What is some yuppie gonna do with his "stabilizers" gimme a break haha. "Help me train my stabilizers." lololololololololzzzz!!!!!
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Post by: Stitch on January 07, 2006, 09:39:21 PM
Because of the instability of the ball, performing exercises on the ball requires more muscle to contract and be utilized by your body for balance. EMG studies show that doing crunches on a stability ball uses 30% more abdominal muscle than doing crunches on the floor. I guarantee that if you do a few sets of crunches on the ball with proper form (if you don't know ask a PT ;D), you will be more sore the following day than you ever have been doing crunches on the floor.

Think about it, the principal behind the use of a stability ball is basicly the same reason you prefer DBs and BBs over machines whenever possible. Its harder and more muscle is used. The end results may be different, but the principals are the same. Not only that, the stability ball is very versatile.
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 07, 2006, 09:58:55 PM
hahaha. What a fag. What is some yuppie gonna do with his "stabilizers" gimme a break haha. "Help me train my stabilizers." lololololololololzzzz!!!!!

Hey Junior, I train professional athletes for a living. If I have a pitcher, quarterback tennis player or anyone who plays a sport that requires anything related to rotator cuffs, knees, ankles, etc and they get injured due to negligent strength or conditioning it's my ass, and considering you more than likely don't know what a "stabilizer" muscle is without going to Google, keep your yap shut unless you know what you're taking about......unless you can prove otherwise!!
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 10:01:19 PM
hahaha. All the PT's are coming out of the woodwork now to defend their "profession" hahaha. Why don't you tell people the real reason you use stability balls (besides the Freudian reasons)is to get these people in there so you can get their money - since people are lazy when it comes to training - you have to create all these bullshit gimmicks to entertain people. I'm sure it's just killing you that people are calling you out on the bs pseudo-science you are proliferating.

I guarantee you will not notice one bit of difference between someone doing standard crunches and someone using a prop after a year of training. The stability ball is versatile? How do you figure? I say more power to PTs - just admit the truth!
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 10:02:06 PM
i  would totally play with their balls if they had any!

I would totally sign up for your class!
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 07, 2006, 10:02:43 PM
Because of the instability of the ball, performing exercises on the ball requires more muscle to contract and be utilized by your body for balance. EMG studies show that doing crunches on a stability ball uses 30% more abdominal muscle than doing crunches on the floor. I guarantee that if you do a few sets of crunches on the ball with proper form (if you don't know ask a PT ;D), you will be more sore the following day than you ever have been doing crunches on the floor.

Think about it, the principal behind the use of a stability ball is basicly the same reason you prefer DBs and BBs over machines whenever possible. Its harder and more muscle is used. The end results may be different, but the principals are the same. Not only that, the stability ball is very versatile.

Don't bother with studies, people like mansonvier would never get it, maybe if you draw him a pic.....awe.....forget it, he'll never understand..too complex!
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 07, 2006, 10:04:06 PM
hahaha. All the PT's are coming out of the woodwork now to defend their "profession" hahaha. Why don't you tell people the real reason you use stability balls (besides the Freudian reasons)is to get these people in there so you can get their money - since people are lazy when it comes to training - you have to create all these bullshit gimmicks to entertain people. I'm sure it's just killing you that people are calling you out on the bs pseudo-science you are proliferating.

I guarantee you will not notice one bit of difference between someone doing standard crunches and someone using a prop after a year of training. The stability ball is versatile? How do you figure? I say more power to PTs - just admit the truth!

Hey son, anytime you wanna train let me know!!
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 10:05:13 PM
Hey Junior, I train professional athletes for a living. If I have a pitcher, quarterback tennis player or anyone who plays a sport that requires anything related to rotator cuffs, knees, ankles, etc and they get injured due to negligent strength or conditioning it's my ass, and considering you more than likely don't know what a "stabilizer" muscle is without going to Google, keep your yap shut unless you know what you're taking about......unless you can prove otherwise!!

You don't know shit jackass except some pseudoscience other morons put out for the susceptible people. Oh wait I forgot you got a prestigious PERSONAL TRAINER certificate
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 10:06:04 PM
Hey son, anytime you wanna train let me know!!

Are you asking me out on a date?
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Post by: G o a t b o y on January 07, 2006, 10:09:13 PM
Are you asking me out on a date?

Actually, he's trying to set you up with his ex-wife Peggy.  You'd like her, she's psycho.  ;D
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 07, 2006, 10:09:18 PM
You don't know shit jackass except some pseudoscience other morons put out for the susceptible people. Oh wait I forgot you got a prestigious PERSONAL TRAINER certificate lol.

Screw the cert, those are a crock and a technacality, 30 years of proven training and learning from the best is how I got my experiance!
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Post by: rocket on January 07, 2006, 10:26:02 PM
And you still can't spell it...
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on January 07, 2006, 10:30:26 PM
There is no such thing as a "stabilizer muscle". Please give me an example of one. Or show an anatomy chart where it says "satbilizer muscle".
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 10:32:23 PM
Screw the cert, those are a crock and a technacality, 30 years of proven training and learning from the best is how I got my experiance!

hahaha.
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 10:34:00 PM
There is no such thing as a "stabilizer muscle". Please give me an example of one. Or show an anatomy chart where it says "satbilizer muscle".

Must be near the "core muscles" hahahaha!!
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Post by: 240 is Back on January 07, 2006, 10:40:36 PM
There is no such thing as a "stabilizer muscle". Please give me an example of one. Or show an anatomy chart where it says "satbilizer muscle".

Please define the difference in muscle isolation and support that occurs when one is doing barbell bench press vs. dumbbell presses.
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 10:42:58 PM
Please define the difference in muscle isolation and support that occurs when one is doing barbell bench press vs. dumbbell presses.

You don't need a barbell to train chest. The bench press is a poor chest exercise. It doesn't isolate enough.
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Post by: 240 is Back on January 07, 2006, 10:57:52 PM
You don't need a barbell to train chest. The bench press is a poor chest exercise. It doesn't isolate enough.

Point is, if you can bench 300 for 10 reps, you cannot usually press two 150-pound dumbbells for 10 reps. 

Why?

Balance.  Which involves.... drum roll.... STABILIZER MUSCLES.

Have a nice day.
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 11:02:24 PM
Point is, if you can bench 300 for 10 reps, you cannot usually press two 150-pound dumbbells for 10 reps. 

Why?

Balance.  Which involves.... drum roll.... STABILIZER MUSCLES.

Have a nice day.

I don't remember "stabilizer muscles" when I took physiology. If you are speaking of abdominal muscles than you don't need a ball to train those. A ball is a nuisance. I stick with what I said. A person training abs with situps will fare no worse than someone with a ball. I would say training abs with standard crunches on the ground is superior in fact - because you can crank them out without the hassle of balancing on a ball - which doesn't require any muscle fatigue. Center of balance is one thing abs are another.
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 07, 2006, 11:07:22 PM
There is no such thing as a "stabilizer muscle". Please give me an example of one.


Rotator Cuff, theres one!
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 11:08:41 PM
Rotator Cuff, theres one!

Why would 20 something professionals want to train their rotator cuffs?
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 11:10:36 PM
"I hope my wife doesn't find out this totally hot intern was checking out my rotator cuffs at the office today Fred." hahahaha!!!!
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 07, 2006, 11:17:46 PM
Why would 20 something professionals want to train their rotator cuffs?

Prevent joint injuries and extend longevity from overusage. Just the same way a bodybuilder cannot consistantly throw a ball like an athlete, most athletes that do overhead movements cannot D/B press 120's.
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 11:21:20 PM
Prevent joint injuries and extend longevity from overusage.

It's a waste of time. You work all these muscles better through indirect exertion when you do the classic exercises.

I have an important question now - Do you think a pro bodybuilder ...... say........Federov.....c ould have avoided a pec tear had he spent years training his rotator cuffs with a swiss ball? This is a very important question.
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 07, 2006, 11:28:22 PM
It's a waste of time. You work all these muscles better through indirect exertion when you do the classic exercises.

I have an important question now - Do you think a pro bodybuilder ...... say........Federov.....c ould have avoided a pec tear had he spent years training his rotator cuffs with a swiss ball? This is a very important question.

I'm not talking about doing rotator cuff exercises on a swiss ball ::)! Important answer and serious.....he more than likely tore his pec (the same way I did) by doing too much, when I tore my pec 2 1/2 years ago, I was on my 7th rep with 405, it wasn't just the weight but the combination of the break down, anotherwords....too many reps!
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 11:42:28 PM
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I'm not talking about doing rotator cuff exercises on a swiss ball ::)! Important answer and serious.....he more than likely tore his pec (the same way I did) by doing too much, when I tore my pec 2 1/2 years ago, I was on my 7th rep with 405, it wasn't just the weight but the combination of the break down, anotherwords....too many reps!

The typical client for these PERSONAL TRAINERS!!!!!! is a young professional person that maybe engages in some weekend warrior activity like playing basketball. It doesn't help them one bit. It was time better spent on building muscle using a classic routine.

Time is better spent building the body - not playing around on balls. There is no advantage in squatting on balls, doing sit-ups on balls, pressing on balls, or shitting on balls. It will not develop a superior physique, and it will not prevent injuries as I already proved. IN FACT - It's stupid, because you can't use as much weight if you're concentrating on maintaining your center of balance.

NOT PRACTICAL OR USEFUL FOR 99% OF THE POPULATION. WASTE OF TIME.

IT's A GIMMICK TO GET PEOPLE INTERESTED IN WORKING OUT SO THE PTs CAN MAKE MONEY OFF THE SUCKERS!

But you only develop "functional" muscle right? Because muscle developed through classic(proven) exercises, not pseudo-science is not functional. Bodybuilders are meatheads that don't develop functional muscles right? What a clown.  :)
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 11:47:25 PM
Gay as the day is long.....

(http://nearhome.com/thesupergym/train/P1010035.JPG)
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 11:49:23 PM
"I'll help you build those core muscles bro"

(http://www.webefit.com/Trainers/Bobby_Kitrick_full_02.jpg)
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 11:54:42 PM
(http://www.health2fitness.co.uk/urbanrebounding/images/rebound48.jpg)
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 07, 2006, 11:59:07 PM
(http://www.buyinnovations.com/images/html_editor/index_product1_b.jpg)
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 12:12:07 AM
The typical client for these PERSONAL TRAINERS!!!!!! is a young professional person that maybe engages in some weekend warrior activity like playing basketball. It doesn't help them one bit. It was time better spent on building muscle using a classic routine.

Time is better spent building the body - not playing around on balls. There is no advantage in squatting on balls, doing sit-ups on balls, pressing on balls, or shitting on balls. It will not develop a superior physique, and it will not prevent injuries as I already proved. IN FACT - It's stupid, because you can't use as much weight if your concentrating on maintaining your center of balance.

NOT PRACTICAL OR USEFUL FOR 99% OF THE POPULATION. WASTE OF TIME.

IT's A GIMMICK TO GET PEOPLE INTERESTED IN WORKING OUT SO THE PTs CAN MAKE MONEY OFF THE SUCKERS!

But you only develop "functional" muscle right? Because muscle developed through classic(proven) exercises, not pseudo-science is not functional. Bodybuilders are meatheads that don't develop functional muscles right? What a clown.  :)

Let me break this down.

1. I'm not you're typical "personal trainer"

2. If the "weekend warrior" plays on the weekend for example in a league, he obviously takes it seriously and needs the training. I have a few.

3. True, there is no advantage to squatting on a ball, but core work is a must, and yes sometimes on a ball is a must (core..rectus abdominus, intercostals, obliques, transverse abdominus, lower back.) for people who cannot do traditional movements and have to do indirect training.

4. The "average" person can careless about building a superior physique, they just want to be stronger, fit and healthy.

5. Funtional training is a must for people who cannot work with heavy weights like the elderly, children and adolesents and rehab clients.

6. And no, bodybuilders (at least National level and pro's) can care less about funtional muscle, although some (the smart ones) are adding it in their training. What proof?.....see how long an off season bodybuilder lasts in a college or pro combine or doing 2 a day training in the middle of summer!!

7. You cannot train an athlete like you would train a bodybuilder.....because BODYBUILDERS ARE NOT ATHLETES and the typical client is NOT A BODYBUILDER!!
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Post by: brianX on January 08, 2006, 12:19:12 AM
The idea that free weights won't build stability or functional strength is simply laughable. Traditional free-weight exercises are by far the best way to develop functional strength, but nobody wants to do them because they're too difficult. It's really that simple.

Olympic lifters are some of the best all around athletes in the world, and you don't see them doing dumbbell flyes on a pink ball. Try telling these guys that they need to work on their "functional strength". The fact is, anyone who can military press 225 and squat 500 will easily outperform these Swiss Ball clowns in any test of functional strength.
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 12:25:04 AM
The idea that free weights won't build stability or functional strength is simply laughable. Traditional free-weight exercises are by far the best way to develop functional strength, but nobody wants to do them because they're too difficult. It's really that simple.

Olympic lifters are some of the best all around athletes in the world, and you don't see them doing dumbbell flyes on a pink ball. Try telling these guys that they need to work on their "functional strength". The fact is, anyone who can military press 225 and squat 500 will easily outperform these Swiss Ball clowns in any test of functional strength.

I never said traditional weights does not build stability!
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 12:32:36 AM
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Let me break this down.

1. I'm not you're typical "personal trainer"

2. If the "weekend warrior" plays on the weekend for example in a league, he obviously takes it seriously and needs the training. I have a few.

3. True, there is no advantage to squatting on a ball, but core work is a must, and yes sometimes on a ball is a must (core..rectus abdominus, intercostals, obliques, transverse abdominus, lower back.) for people who cannot do traditional movements and have to do indirect training.

4. The "average" person can careless about building a superior physique, they just want to be stronger, fit and healthy.

5. Funtional training is a must for people who cannot work with heavy weights like the elderly, children and adolesents and rehab clients.

6. And no, bodybuilders (at least National level and pro's) can care less about funtional muscle, although some (the smart ones) are adding it in their training. What proof?.....see how long an off season bodybuilder lasts in a college or pro combine or doing 2 a day training in the middle of summer!!

7. You cannot train an athlete like you would train a bodybuilder.....because BODYBUILDERS ARE NOT ATHLETES and the typical client is NOT A BODYBUILDER!!

So let me get this straight......

Using a swiss ball IS BENEFICIAL if you meet the following criteria(according to you):

A. You must not care about building a superior physique, but you must care about being   stronger, fit, and healthy. This will be accomplished by lifting 5 pounds on a swiss ball.

B. You must be elderly, in rehab, or a child.

C. Core work is a must for people that can't do traditional movements.

D. If you are a weekend warrior that plays in a league - you will find pressing light weight on a swiss ball more beneficial than free weights.

Another Gem: "Bodybuilders can care less about functional muscles."

So when Ronnie Coleman deadlifts 800 pounds he isn't using functional muscles, but when a weekend warrior shoots hoops "for example in a league" THAT MAN, that weekend warrior IS using FUNCTIONAL MUSCLES!!!! WOW This makes sense. Thank you!!! I knew he must have been doing it through the core muscles he developed through extensive use of the "swiss ball" lol.
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 12:35:40 AM
The idea that free weights won't build stability or functional strength is simply laughable. Traditional free-weight exercises are by far the best way to develop functional strength, but nobody wants to do them because they're too difficult. It's really that simple.

Olympic lifters are some of the best all around athletes in the world, and you don't see them doing dumbbell flyes on a pink ball. Try telling these guys that they need to work on their "functional strength". The fact is, anyone who can military press 225 and squat 500 will easily outperform these Swiss Ball clowns in any test of functional strength.

HAHAHAHA!!! Exactly.

As someone stated earlier. This whole gimmick started because PTs wanted to find a way to save money and gym space because real equipment is more expensive than props.

And on top of that, it gives people with short attention spans a reason to get in the gym.

All in all, it's a win win situation for the PTs. They know they're wasting people's time, but they don't give a shit because they want the money!
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 12:38:58 AM
True, but any trainer can teach the basics, it takes an experianced trainer to go beyond the basics and take your client to the next level. To be a great trainer your clients should be complete..meaning, not only the primary muscles should be strong and developed but also stabilizers as well as conditioning. Any trainer can just take money and persuade their client that their making progress. 

Yeah...no shit  ::)
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 12:50:24 AM
So let me get this straight......

Using a swiss ball IS BENEFICIAL if you meet the following criteria(according to you):

A. You must not care about building a superior physique, but you must care about being   stronger, fit, and healthy. This will be accomplished by lifting 5 pounds on a swiss ball.

B. You must be elderly, in rehab, or a child.

C. Core work is a must for people that can't do traditional movements.

D. If you are a weekend warrior that plays in a league - you will find pressing light weight on a swiss ball more beneficial than free weights.

Another Gem: "Bodybuilders can care less about functional muscles."

So when Ronnie Coleman deadlifts 800 pounds he isn't using functional muscles, but when a weekend warrior shoots hoops "for example in a league" THAT MAN, that weekend warrior IS using FUNCTIONAL MUSCLES!!!! WOW This makes sense. Thank you!!! I knew he must have been doing it through the core muscles he developed through extensive use of the "swiss ball" lol.

You MUST be a Liberal.....because you just spun my post all to crap....LOL...you're hopeless....LOL Hahahahahahaha!!
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 12:57:21 AM
So let me get this straight......


 

Another Gem: "Bodybuilders can care less about functional muscles."

So when Ronnie Coleman deadlifts 800 pounds he isn't using functional muscles, but when a weekend warrior shoots hoops "for example in a league" THAT MAN, that weekend warrior IS using FUNCTIONAL MUSCLES!!!! WOW This makes sense. Thank you!!! I knew he must have been doing it through the core muscles he developed through extensive use of the "swiss ball" lol.

LOL...so you're telling me Ronnie Coleman can keep up with an elite athlete (Baseball, Football, etc) and pass the test in a combine?? LOL....can't wait to hear this!! Hahahahahaha!
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Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 01:08:18 AM























































MELTDOWN
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MELTDOWN

  I'm gonna break it down to you, Mansonvier. Basically, there are two groups of people who workout in gyms:

1. Hardcore guys, who really want to grow bigger muscles.

2. All the rest.

  People who this type of exercises, like that idiotic homosexual you showed on one of your posts, belong to the second group of people. Guys who go into gyms to grow big muscles share some characteristics:They purposefully do the hardest exercises, they use mostly free-weights, take pride in taking sets to failure and pay strict attention to form.

  For instance, I'm the ONLY guy, at my gym, who regularly dead-lifts. I can dead-lift five plates a side, for up to ten reps. I'm the only guy who doesn't use crappy form in the last reps of a set, when it starts to really demand something from you. Why? Because it is exactly those last reps that make your muscles grow. You know what? It works. I have weighed over 300 lbs when I was saucing, but even now that I'm sauce-free, I still weight 260 lbs-at a height of 6'5.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: sarcasm on January 08, 2006, 09:04:31 AM
  I'm gonna break it down to you, Mansonvier. Basically, there are two groups of people who workout in gyms:

1. Hardcore guys, who really want to grow bigger muscles.

2. All the rest.

  People who this type of exercises, like that idiotic homosexual you showed on one of your posts, belong to the second group of people. Guys who go into gyms to grow big muscles share some characteristics:They purposefully do the hardest exercises, they use mostly free-weights, take pride in taking sets to failure and pay strict attention to form.

  For instance, I'm the ONLY guy, at my gym, who regularly dead-lifts. I can dead-lift five plates a side, for up to ten reps. I'm the only guy who doesn't use crappy form in the last reps of a set, when it starts to really demand something from you. Why? Because it is exactly those last reps that make your muscles grow. You know what? It works. I have weighed over 300 lbs when I was saucing, but even now that I'm sauce-free, I still weight 260 lbs-at a height of 6'5.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
you're pathetic bragging about pulling 495 at 260, weak as a popcorn fart.
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Post by: suckmymuscle on January 08, 2006, 10:01:49 AM
you're pathetic bragging about pulling 495 at 260, weak as a popcorn fart.

  Isn't the humiliation I delivered to you, on the Y board, enough to make you shut your cun t up? I know that it's impossible for a bitch like you to close that sperm bank you call a mouth, but please try. Seriously. How much more do you want me to rape you, with my massive wit(no, sorry, I'm not going to rape you with my massive dick, 'cause homosexuality disgusts me. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'll rape you only with my wit)? I mean, I have humiliated your mommy and all the other female members of your family, including yourself, yet you still come back for more? Damn, girl, I didn't know masochism was one of your sex fetiches! How slutty you are! I guess it's as they say:like mother, like daughter! ;D

  Speaking of strengh, I BET I'm much stronger than you. Not stronger, but much, much stronger. If you have read what what I wrote, you'd realized I dead-lift ten plates for over ten reps. I have done as much as seventeen reps, with that weight. My single is seven plates a side, which doesen't put me that much behind Ronnie. I guess this is not your fault; crack-whores usually are usually illiterate and don't enroll their kids in school. Good bye, loser. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: FREAKgeek on January 08, 2006, 10:15:30 AM
Arthur Jones would have a heart attack seeing that squatting pic. 

Your muscles know how to do one thing - produce force. The functioning aspect is a learned skill. Working out on a swiss ball will do only one thing - make you a better swiss ball lifter.  There are more safer and effective ways for building abdominal strength.

And regarding the elderly - how the hell is balancing on a swiss ball easier than doing a sit up?
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 10:34:14 AM


And regarding the elderly - how the hell is balancing on a swiss ball easier than doing a sit up?

it's not just balancing, I have a couple of elderly clients who suffer from degenritive back problem and cannot do direct low back exercises, using the ball helps strengthen their low back without causing alot of stress.

BTW, most of my athletes (Football players, etc) do train with heavy traditional compound movements, Bench, deads, hang cleans, squats, etc especially when getting ready for college and pro combines.
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Post by: knny187 on January 08, 2006, 10:57:09 AM
You guys made me read all this crap & now that I am finished...I have only one conclusion...

Joe is correct.
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Post by: scooter on January 08, 2006, 11:02:16 AM
this is one of the funniest theads ever the pic of the guy squatting on a ball is really retarded. The swiss ball is one of the stupidest things ever the guy should use more weight and do it on the floor rather than risk injury.(to work stabalizers????) just use weight and stay off of the gay ball.

 I think it is funny to hear all of the trainers talk about how useful the ball is i cant see any benefits. Athletes have lived many years without the use of the little ball. Most trainers are ripoffs they charge 20 dollars a hour to tell people what to do to get stronger and most of the ttrainers are not very big to begin with. I dont want someone training me who is telling me to use a ball rather than free weights it just dosent make sense. I will stick to what has been done for years and not this new age crap that all of these pts are using
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Post by: candidate2025 on January 08, 2006, 11:06:48 AM
hahaha. What a fag. What is some yuppie gonna do with his "stabilizers" gimme a break haha. "Help me train my stabilizers." lololololololololzzzz!!!!!
not only that...but as long as you are not using machiines in your workouts, you already have strengthened your "stabilizers".

everyone can benefit froma bodybuilder type workout plan..no matter your goals.
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Post by: 1Fast400 on January 08, 2006, 11:11:53 AM
The dude is a surfer, his training is relative to what he does.  Like someone said earlier, they couldn't even stand on the ball, much less squat on one.  Guess he isn't a surfer. 

Amazing how closed minded some are. 
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Post by: knny187 on January 08, 2006, 11:18:57 AM

Amazing how closed minded some are. 

no...not really....I bet they always look the same though with the training they use
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Post by: scooter on January 08, 2006, 11:22:02 AM
what i am trying to say is that is the dumbest thing that i have ever seen doing squats on a big pink ball i just dosent look safe you guys can do is all you want but dont tell me that it is a good safe way to do squats
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Post by: knny187 on January 08, 2006, 11:50:52 AM
what i am trying to say is that is the dumbest thing that i have ever seen doing squats on a big pink ball i just dosent look safe you guys can do is all you want but dont tell me that it is a good safe way to do squats

Would it be better on a big blue ball?
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Post by: hillbilly on January 08, 2006, 11:58:45 AM
the free weight squat- WORLDS MUST DANGEROUS EXERCISE
the stupid ball- A STUPID BALL
combine the 2- SOMETHING TO LAUGH AT IN BETWEEN SETS OF REAL TRAINING

In my opinion we shouldnt discourage the use of this exercise the world is more fun if the idiots can roam free to do whatever stupid fad comes there way!
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Post by: scooter on January 08, 2006, 12:12:19 PM
it gives me something to laugh about
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Post by: Beyond Genetics on January 08, 2006, 12:20:04 PM
That type of exercise is more suitable for athletes, not bodybuilders.
And even then under very close supervision.
Like I said, I've had some female clients do this, but on a Bosu instead.
occasionally a male, soccer player, etc.

But No, It shouldn't be in a bodybuilding mag, and will do little to put on any mass.
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Post by: 1Fast400 on January 08, 2006, 12:21:25 PM
He is a world class surfer, makes good money, is featured in the biggest muscle mag and is in shape.  So make fun of him squating on a ball if you want, I doubt he cares.

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Post by: sarcasm on January 08, 2006, 12:38:00 PM
  Isn't the humiliation I delivered to you, on the Y board, enough to make you shut your cun t up? I know that it's impossible for a bitch like you to close that sperm bank you call a mouth, but please try. Seriously. How much more do you want me to rape you, with my massive wit(no, sorry, I'm not going to rape you with my massive dick, 'cause homosexuality disgusts me. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'll rape you only with my wit)? I mean, I have humiliated your mommy and all the other female members of your family, including yourself, yet you still come back for more? Damn, girl, I didn't know masochism was one of your sex fetiches! How slutty you are! I guess it's as they say:like mother, like daughter! ;D

  Speaking of strengh, I BET I'm much stronger than you. Not stronger, but much, much stronger. If you have read what what I wrote, you'd realized I dead-lift ten plates for over ten reps. I have done as much as seventeen reps, with that weight. My single is seven plates a side, which doesen't put me that much behind Ronnie. I guess this is not your fault; crack-whores usually are usually illiterate and don't enroll their kids in school. Good bye, loser. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE
meltdown.
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 12:42:43 PM
He is a world class surfer, makes good money, is featured in the biggest muscle mag and is in shape.  So make fun of him squating on a ball if you want, I doubt he cares.



I don't agree with the squatting on a stability ball as a matter of fact his trainer should be shot. The trainer is risking his clients career by risking injury. From a safety stand point, the ball can burst (even if it is burst resistant) one wrong move WILL cause back, knee or other types of severe career ending injury. If your going to train sport specific you have to design the program to work and strengthen the muscle, joints, tendons and ligaments while simulating the sport movement......and endo board and a slide board should have been incorporated in the surfers training, not squatting on a ball!!

if you go to my site and click on "Our Philosophy" you'll see how i like to do things. The site isn't quite complete, but you'll get the idea. www.joelocalpt.com
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Post by: brianX on January 08, 2006, 01:46:35 PM
LOL...so you're telling me Ronnie Coleman can keep up with an elite athlete (Baseball, Football, etc) and pass the test in a combine?? LOL....can't wait to hear this!! Hahahahahaha!

That doesn't make any sense. Just because someone can't keep up with top athletes doesn't mean they lack athletic ability. Most people by definition cannot keep up with elite athletes.

On the other hand, I can guarantee you that Ronnie is stronger than anyone in the NFL. The combine record on the bench press is a measly 43 reps with 225. I also wouldn't be surprised if he did well on the vertical jump and 40 yard dash. Many bodybuilders and olympic lifters are outstanding athletes, and they don't do anything but lift weights.
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Post by: brianX on January 08, 2006, 01:49:31 PM
I never said traditional weights does not build stability!

You implied that traditional weight training will leave one deficient in "stability" and "functional strength". According to you, dicking around on a swiss ball will make up for these deficiencies. ::)
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Post by: Beyond Genetics on January 08, 2006, 01:52:59 PM
Ronnie Coleman has almost no athletic ability at his size.
The man can barely walk.

And to be fair,,,  neither did Dorian...


They could have some 50lbs lighter...
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Post by: Beyond Genetics on January 08, 2006, 01:57:27 PM
You implied that traditional weight training will leave one deficient in "stability" and "functional strength". According to you, dicking around on a swiss ball will make up for these deficiencies. ::)

Stability balls tend to build more stability, via the Nervous System, not so much from progessive overload of the muscle.

It's a different style of training which should be used for perfomance reasons, balance, reaction, agility, etc.
  It's not a waste of time if you are an athlete.

If you are a bodybuilder I suspect it will do you little good...  Maybe occasionally as sort of a shock, but other than that,,  pretty useless for us.
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Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 02:13:02 PM
That doesn't make any sense. Just because someone can't keep up with top athletes doesn't mean they lack athletic ability. Most people by definition cannot keep up with elite athletes.

On the other hand, I can guarantee you that Ronnie is stronger than anyone in the NFL. The combine record on the bench press is a measly 43 reps with 225. I also wouldn't be surprised if he did well on the vertical jump and 40 yard dash. Many bodybuilders and olympic lifters are outstanding athletes, and they don't do anything but lift weights.

I have no doubt Ronnie is stronger than anyone in the NFL. But being strong and having athletic ability are two different things.  As far as veritical jump....the man weighs 320lbs at 5'10...do the math, he ain't gonna exactly dunk a basketball and as an example, Spud Webb can dunk regularly....different training. As far as the 40, he has never trained for speed, that's why there are different trainers for different exercises in each sport (or at least most sports) Maybe I should have put him in the catagory of High football or College (Community) NFL.....not a chance to last a day in the conditioning phase at any level!!!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: knny187 on January 08, 2006, 02:18:12 PM
Stability/Core training helps define & strengthen useable, everyday, body/trunk movements.

How is it more people nowadays throw out their back simply by bending over to pick up something?
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: 1Fast400 on January 08, 2006, 02:22:17 PM
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if you go to my site and click on "Our Philosophy" you'll see how i like to do things[/qutoe]

Exactly.  The way YOU like to do things.  Nothing is 100% proven on either side.  You claim he's going to kill himself on the ball, yet it seems like he is doing fine. 

I'm not saying you are right or wrong.  Just saying it is an opinion.  He seems to have proof that his methods are working.  A surfer who is way past his prime (not sure if most of you realize that), but is at the peak of his career physically.  Something is working.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: gibberj2 on January 08, 2006, 02:22:31 PM
good bodybuilders dont throw out their backs bending over
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 08, 2006, 02:40:50 PM
good bodybuilders dont throw out their backs bending over

smart bodybuilders make the girl bend over.


HTH.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 06:55:50 PM
LOL...so you're telling me Ronnie Coleman can keep up with an elite athlete (Baseball, Football, etc) and pass the test in a combine?? LOL....can't wait to hear this!! Hahahahahaha!

Mark McGuire and Joe Montana used core training? LMFAO!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: HRDCOR on January 08, 2006, 07:03:57 PM
How can you tell if the balls are from Switzerland ????

Its like French fries how can you tell they are from France ????
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: brianX on January 08, 2006, 07:27:05 PM
Ronnie Coleman has almost no athletic ability at his size.
The man can barely walk.

And to be fair,,,  neither did Dorian...


They could have some 50lbs lighter...

Ronnie does parking lot lunges with 225 on his back. I have a hard time believing he can barely walk. ::)

Once again, being big and muscular does not preclude one from being athletic. I would be willing to bet that Ronnie at 300 lb has vastly more athletic ability than the average man.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 07:46:44 PM
If you are in a sport that requires alot a movement the answer is fucking simple. Don't go overboard with the weights! Most people will never look better than a personal trainer anyway though.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 08:45:06 PM
Mark McGuire and Joe Montana used core training? LMFAO!

LOL..Funny you should mention Mark McGuire, he was my neighbor and my client for about 10 months when he used to live in Huntington Beach  and yes, he did alot of core training, Dennis Rodman was also a client along with Tito Ortiz and Tank Abbott and they all did core..all from Huntington Beach!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 08:46:35 PM
LOL..Funny you should mention Mark McGuire, he was my neighbor and my client for about 10 months when he used to live in Huntington Beach  and yes, he did alot of core training, Dennis Rodman was also a client along with Tito Ortiz and Tank Abbott and they all did core..all from Huntington Beach!

Yeah right HAHAHA!!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 09:22:40 PM
Yeah right HAHAHA!!

Care to put a little money on it?
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 09:26:33 PM
Care to put a little money on it?

I wouldn't doubt they are some suckas!!. Post some pics.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 08, 2006, 09:34:16 PM
MR INTENSONE, MANSONVIER IS ROYALLY OWNING YOU, JUST GIVE UP NOW WHILE YOU STILL HAVE EVEN A SHRED OF DIGNITY LEFT YOU GERIATRIC F#*KING SCUMBAG C*NT!  HEY MR INTENSONE HOW MANY OF THOSE $100  PHONE CALLS HAVE PEOPLE PAYED FOR SO FAR, LOL! HAHAHAHA!  WHAT A LOSER.

XL, why don't you wager your account on it?

Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Double XL on January 08, 2006, 09:34:45 PM
XL, why don't you wager your account on it?


ON WHAT?
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: 240 is Back on January 08, 2006, 09:40:48 PM
ON WHAT?
on whether intenseone knows mcgwire or not
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 09:45:40 PM
XL, why don't you wager your account on it?




I've got a better idea, just have him come on down to a combine camp with me, NFL regular season is over and some of the players will be released. As a matter of fact I have a couple of kids that I train from San Diego State that I'm getting ready for the May combine....Double XL and Mansovier are invited and I'm sure Junior Seau should be there with the team.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Double XL on January 08, 2006, 09:51:51 PM
on whether intenseone knows mcgwire or not
I DIDNT READ THAT PART.   I DONT KNOW IF HE KNOWS HIM OR NOT, I REALLY DONT CARE.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 09:53:23 PM
MR INTENSONE, MANSONVIER IS ROYALLY OWNING YOU, JUST GIVE UP NOW WHILE YOU STILL HAVE EVEN A SHRED OF DIGNITY LEFT YOU GERIATRIC F#*KING SCUMBAG C*NT!  HEY MR INTENSONE HOW MANY OF THOSE $100  PHONE CALLS HAVE PEOPLE PAYED FOR SO FAR?  LOL! HAHAHAHA!!  WHAT A LOSER!

This sucka is OWNED!!!!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Double XL on January 08, 2006, 09:53:46 PM


I've got a better idea, just have him come on down to a combine camp with me, NFL regular season is over and some of the players will be released. As a matter of fact I have a couple of kids that I train from San Diego State that I'm getting ready for the May combine....Double XL and Mansovier are invited and I'm sure Junior Seau should be there with the team.
MELTDOWN.


HEY CAN YOU GET ME FREE TICKETS TO A FOOTBALL GAME, CAN I SIT ON THE SIDELINES RIGHT ON FIELD LEVEL?  THAT WOULD BE COOL, ID APPRECIATE IT, THANKS.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 09:55:36 PM
I DIDNT READ THAT PART.   I DONT KNOW IF HE KNOWS HIM OR NOT, I REALLY DONT CARE.

Then if you're not sure then maybe should keep your big mouth shut.......what are you....12?
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 09:56:06 PM
This sucka can redeem himself - get just a little bit of dignity back - if!!!! he post some pics of himself spotting Tank Abbott on a swiss ball.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 10:02:14 PM
he post some pics of himself spotting Tank Abbott on a swiss ball.

LOL....no swiss balls for him...besides he's retired, he a fat drunk pig whos been 86'd from every club in HB!!

Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 08, 2006, 10:04:16 PM
MELTDOWN.


HEY CAN YOU GET ME FREE TICKETS TO A FOOTBALL GAME, CAN I SIT ON THE SIDELINES RIGHT ON FIELD LEVEL?  THAT WOULD BE COOL, ID APPRECIATE IT, THANKS.

Money is on the table.....take it or leave it. What meltdown? you're the one yelling in CAPS..LOL
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Oliver Klaushof on January 08, 2006, 10:06:12 PM
OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: MCWAY on January 10, 2006, 07:58:59 PM
I saw that issue of M&F. I believe the trainer of this surfer guy is none other than former IFBB pro, Jamo Nezzar.

The Swiss ball stuff is part of his "JamCore Training" system.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Mr. Intenseone on January 10, 2006, 09:18:08 PM
I saw that issue of M&F. I believe the trainer of this surfer guy is none other than former IFBB pro, Jamo Nezzar.

The Swiss ball stuff is part of his "JamCore Training" system.

"Jamo" should have his cert revoked!!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Cromespyder on September 17, 2008, 08:52:31 PM
ridiculous
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Earl1972 on September 18, 2008, 12:55:23 PM
saw a guy today doing pushups with his hands on the swiss balls and feet on a bench

wouldn't it be safer to rest the hands on the bench too?

E
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: ASJChaotic on September 18, 2008, 01:00:28 PM
WTF?

Someone is going to get hurt.  What are they thinking?
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
that is VERY safe  ::)
I want to slap these people with their stupid swiss balls
who in gods name started this bullshit?
why do people continue to do them?
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
if you want to work your "core"  ::) do some frigging situps
I can see Ronnie Coleman squatting 800 pounds on those  :D
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: ASJChaotic on September 18, 2008, 01:01:35 PM
saw a guy today doing pushups with his hands on the swiss balls and feet on a bench

wouldn't it be safer to rest the hands on the bench too?

E
I see people doing bench press, shoulder press, squats, anything on them  >:(
what do I care I'm not the one who will get injured, I'll just laugh at them when they fall over  ;D
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: ASJChaotic on September 18, 2008, 01:07:22 PM
"Jamo" should have his cert revoked!!
coach let me guess......
you support this swiss ball bullshit don't you?
why did I not think you would  ::)
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: saucetradomous on September 18, 2008, 01:12:55 PM
What suprises me most about this topic is not that these fools are most likely going to get injured.. but that people here actually care about these fools injuring themselves.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on September 18, 2008, 01:18:49 PM
Balls are gayer then gayclub Lorenzo on a bustrip to Disneyland.

Legendary response!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Cromespyder on September 18, 2008, 01:20:31 PM
saw a guy today doing pushups with his hands on the swiss balls and feet on a bench

wouldn't it be safer to rest the hands on the bench too?

E
he wouldnt have utilized his core as much.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: wood on September 18, 2008, 01:22:58 PM
If someone has an injury that prevents them from doing the traditional exercise, Swiss Ball press movements ARE  viable options as it recruits stablizers that are not always challenged using the traditional lift.  I will agree that the squat on the ball is extreme and dangerous, but, I don't know why some of you are so close minded to options.  As you get older, you train smarter, not harder.

I don't advocate using just your standard garden variety Swiss Ball though as I've seen one burst under the weight of a training partner who weighed 240 who was DB pressing the 60's on a warmup.   This is the only way to go.  It's burst resistant to 2,000 lbs: http://www.power-systems.com/p-3354-power-versaball-r.aspx

Here's 275, flat bench, on a ball and I was about 185, clean at 5'8.  I had arthroscopic surgery in 2000 and this was in '04 if I remember correctly.  Don't limit yourself because something looks weird or out of place, it may be beneficial to add to your program on occasion.  Just something to ponder.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: jaejonna on September 18, 2008, 01:24:58 PM
jesus christ your a dumb mother fucker ...
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: wood on September 18, 2008, 01:27:08 PM
jesus christ your a dumb mother fucker ...

That's it, flame on!  Trust me, if i could flat bench w/out pain, I would have never attempted this.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: ASJChaotic on September 18, 2008, 01:29:14 PM
That's it, flame on!  Trust me, if i could flat bench w/out pain, I would have never attempted this.
dude are you fucking retarded?  :o :o :o
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: wood on September 18, 2008, 01:30:55 PM
dude are you fucking retarded?  :o :o :o


YAYY, I've got mail!
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: ASJChaotic on September 18, 2008, 01:35:20 PM
YAYY, I've got mail!
train smarter?
training on a ball is very smart  ;) good job
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: wood on September 18, 2008, 01:37:32 PM
train smarter?
training on a ball is very smart  ;) good job

I see that reading comprehension is not your strength.  You are limited by your own imagination and lack of objectivity.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: Butterbean on September 18, 2008, 02:23:32 PM
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Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: The Coach on September 18, 2008, 04:37:07 PM
If someone has an injury that prevents them from doing the traditional exercise, Swiss Ball press movements ARE  viable options as it recruits stablizers that are not always challenged using the traditional lift.  I will agree that the squat on the ball is extreme and dangerous, but, I don't know why some of you are so close minded to options.  As you get older, you train smarter, not harder.

I don't advocate using just your standard garden variety Swiss Ball though as I've seen one burst under the weight of a training partner who weighed 240 who was DB pressing the 60's on a warmup.   This is the only way to go.  It's burst resistant to 2,000 lbs: http://www.power-systems.com/p-3354-power-versaball-r.aspx

Here's 275, flat bench, on a ball and I was about 185, clean at 5'8.  I had arthroscopic surgery in 2000 and this was in '03 if I remember correctly.  Don't limit yourself because something looks weird or out of place, it may be beneficial to add to your program on occasion.  Just something to ponder.


You failed to mention where you had the surgery. Reguardless, when I see shit like this I just have to ask what the hell you were thinking? Look, I use stability balls in some of my training and if you know how and when to use them and for the right reasons, it's a good training tool. But dude...c'mon, this is just one step above the idiot who's squatting on the ball and the dumbshit trainer who told him to do it.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: ASJChaotic on September 18, 2008, 05:22:42 PM

You failed to mention where you had the surgery. Reguardless, when I see shit like this I just have to ask what the hell you were thinking? Look, I use stability balls in some of my training and if you know how and when to use them and for the right reasons, it's a good training tool. But dude...c'mon, this is just one step above the idiot who's squatting on the ball and the dumbshit trainer who told him to do it.

thank god the coach doesn't support the stability ball bullshit  ;D
what's next?
deadlifts off of stability balls?  ???
and does anybody know what this idiot is thinking?  :-\ is this how he developed those massive quads?  ;D
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: burn2live on September 18, 2008, 05:26:53 PM
Those ball things should all be destroyed on sight
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: ASJChaotic on September 18, 2008, 05:44:41 PM
Those ball things should all be destroyed on sight
I saw a girl doing arnold turning shoulder presses while standing next to a huge glass window this morning
now my gym is on the 2nd story and if she loses her "stability"....then  :-X
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: wood on September 19, 2008, 03:36:33 AM

You failed to mention where you had the surgery.


Left shoulder, capsullary (sp?) shrinkage to correct chronic dislocations.  Injury originated from a motorcycle accident and continued from working out and work related issues.

Opinions are what they are, you're entitled to yours, but...don't knock it till you've tried it.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: TPSRPBBW-fan1 on September 19, 2008, 08:03:10 AM
squats are naturally an unstable exercise, they started standing on sloped wooden blocks so that you could hit different areas of the quads, in fact they added the box squat so it would be more stabilized (and less hardcore).  Squatting on a ball won't strengthen your legs, wont really do much of anything really, except prepaire you for being a ninja, i guess  ::).  This is why flex is so much better of a magazine than Muscle and Fail, i mean fitness.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: knny187 on September 19, 2008, 03:14:55 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: dutchmanart on September 19, 2008, 04:07:05 PM
This has got to be the stupidest thing I've seen in years.

So this is a  new and improved way to workout?  Yeah right.

You won't be able to do anything when your compound fracture your ankle.  Not to mention when you do fall off screwing up your back so bad you can't stand straight up for 6 months.

I've seen stupid shit like this before but not as dangerous.

It's just GIMMICKS, GIMMICKS, GIMMICKS.

Wait till someone really fucks themselves up bad and end up suing the trainer, the gym, and the Swiss Ball  manufacturers and ends up with millions.

Then and only then will people get smart about stupid gimmickry fads like this shit.
Title: Re: OMFFGG! Muscle and Fitness advocates Swiss Ball Squats.Scanned pic! WTF?
Post by: _bruce_ on September 19, 2008, 05:40:35 PM
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