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Title: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2008, 04:03:19 PM
it's obvious Mccain didn't properly vet Palin.  30 minute phone call, and 1 brief handshake in February.  The only investigation was into that trooper firing matter.

I hope he'll do his research on things like the economy and war, and not just make snap decisions on the fly.

VP selection was big, and he had plenty of time to think it through.  Will he choose the IMPULSIVE button when he's making giant decisions regarding the country.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: tonymctones on August 31, 2008, 04:05:21 PM
 ::)

How many threads have you started today bashing her? Balance hhahah ::)

Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2008, 04:05:54 PM
Obama sucks.  HTH.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: calmus on August 31, 2008, 04:06:51 PM

Hahaha. It's Mac's typical solution... use a woman to solve his own shortcomings.

he'll probably try to marry Angela Merkel when he becomes president.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2008, 04:10:24 PM
::)

How many threads have you started today bashing her? Balance hhahah ::)



Probably about 20 or so the last few days (without exaggeration).  Clearly protesting too much.   
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 31, 2008, 04:21:16 PM
people, please apply comments to his point with your criticisms.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: tonymctones on August 31, 2008, 04:25:23 PM
people, please apply comments to his point with your criticisms.
LOL this coming from the man who is usually the first to throw names out...but ok if you will

240 plz provide a link to your statements
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2008, 04:26:52 PM
LOL this coming from the man who is usually the first to throw names out...but ok if you will

240 plz provide a link to your statements

sure, i'll happily add links.  Usually it degrades into a debate of "well, of course MSNBC will claim it's not her baby, that's what the lib media does".

That kind of talk is ignorant, but it derails threads.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: tonymctones on August 31, 2008, 04:29:24 PM
sure, i'll happily add links.  Usually it degrades into a debate of "well, of course MSNBC will claim it's not her baby, that's what the lib media does".

That kind of talk is ignorant, but it derails threads.
i agree and the same can be said about anytime fox news is brought up but still plz give a link.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2008, 04:30:20 PM
I agree with tony:  where is the link establishing McCain did not vet Palin? 
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 31, 2008, 04:30:21 PM
LOL this coming from the man who is usually the first to throw names out...but ok if you will

240 plz provide a link to your statements
also, learn to read... I just said "please apply comments to his point with your criticisms"  I don't care what you call or accuse 240 of.  Just make sure to address what he said or stfu.  Now I've nailed 240 on the same thing in the past.  fair is fair.  Don't come in derailing threads.  Say what you want but have something to address the purpose of the thread.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: tonymctones on August 31, 2008, 04:32:46 PM
also, learn to read... I just said "please apply comments to his point with your criticisms"  I don't care what you call or accuse 240 of.  Just make sure to address what he said or stfu.  Now I've nailed 240 on the same thing in the past.  fair is fair.  Don't come in derailing threads.  Say what you want but have something to address the purpose of the thread.
which is why i said what i did b/c often you simply attack the messenger and not the messege dont worry ill point it out to you next time :P
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2008, 04:36:36 PM
I agree with tony:  where is the link establishing McCain did not vet Palin? 

next time i see it, i'll paste it here, Tommy boy.

He only sent a team of lawyers up last week to check out troopergate and they determined it wasn't a problem.  Most on his inside team had no clue she was even in real contention.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: tonymctones on August 31, 2008, 04:40:23 PM
next time i see it, i'll paste it here, Tommy boy.

He only sent a team of lawyers up last week to check out troopergate and they determined it wasn't a problem.  Most on his inside team had no clue she was even in real contention.
::) link plz
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 31, 2008, 04:42:05 PM
which is why i said what i did b/c often you simply attack the messenger and not the messege dont worry ill point it out to you next time :P
Oh please, by all means show where I've done such without addressing the point.  Back in the day it was done by everyone all the time and I've worked toward ending that practice.  So if I've done it, I am wrong to have done it.  Please, point out such an occation at anytime in the last few months if I do it all the time as you say.  Point it out now... can you find one in the first 5 pages?
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2008, 04:45:56 PM
next time i see it, i'll paste it here, Tommy boy.

He only sent a team of lawyers up last week to check out troopergate and they determined it wasn't a problem.  Most on his inside team had no clue she was even in real contention.

Proof?  Link?  Not that I don't believe you.   ::)
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2008, 04:46:43 PM
Proof?  Link?  Not that I don't believe you.   ::)

what don't you believe?
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: CQ on August 31, 2008, 04:46:53 PM
He only sent a team of lawyers up last week to check out troopergate and they determined it wasn't a problem.  

Yes, I have no link either, but read that also.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 31, 2008, 04:49:10 PM
as of August 15, she wasn't vetted, only asked for a few position papers and speeches.
http://www.rollcall.com/news/27427-1.html
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2008, 04:51:25 PM
what don't you believe?

Quote
it's obvious Mccain didn't properly vet Palin.  30 minute phone call, and 1 brief handshake in February.  The only investigation was into that trooper firing matter.

Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 31, 2008, 04:53:00 PM
I know where I saw this now... It was on a CNN youtube clip.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on August 31, 2008, 04:55:46 PM
Here's some comments on the lack of vetting on Hardball, I'll see if I can find the cnn clip.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2008, 04:58:30 PM
It has a second video, from Think Progress which has McCain Campaign spokesperson Nancy Pfotenhauer on Fox News, being asked by host Bill Hemmer how well McCain knew Palin. Her response?


You're running flat into the wall of my ignorance here, Bill. I truly
have no indication whatsoever the extent of a relationship that exists
with the Governor of Alaska.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/08/was-palin-properly-vetted-by-m.php
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2008, 05:00:27 PM
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/29/1307122.aspx

MCCAIN MET PALIN ONCE BEFORE YESTERDAY?



http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/29/palin-picked/
mccain campaign denies she is being looked at
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2008, 05:09:17 PM
I looked at all three links.  None of them establish:

"it's obvious Mccain didn't properly vet Palin.  30 minute phone call, and 1 brief handshake in February.  The only investigation was into that trooper firing matter." 

 
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: calmus on August 31, 2008, 05:17:33 PM
The best response to douche Mark is to call him a douche... but you guys seem to like playing his games, so good luck.  :)
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Dos Equis on August 31, 2008, 05:24:02 PM
The best response to douche Mark is to call him a douche... but you guys seem to like playing his games, so good luck.  :)

lol.  The troll speaks.

What does one do with a worthless law degree?
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: calmus on August 31, 2008, 05:26:16 PM

What does one do with a worthless law degree?

the degree's probably worth something, I just don't want to find out what... :)
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: youandme on August 31, 2008, 06:10:08 PM
I looked at the links and the youtube video and they shared the same ideas of many "this is exciting, moms are looking at Sarah Palin's story going this is interesting"

1 meeting, and a handshake? Not sure, but do the women that find this interesting and inspirational really care about how much she and McCain know about one anotehr on a personal level?

McCain's motto "Country first"

Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: 240 is Back on August 31, 2008, 06:19:36 PM
McCain's motto "Country first"

She is a tool to get him in office. 

There were far more qualified candidates, who would have been better suited to serve in case mccain could not.  Nobody can deny that.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: CQ on August 31, 2008, 06:42:28 PM
She is a tool to get him in office. 

There were far more qualified candidates, who would have been better suited to serve in case mccain could not.  Nobody can deny that.

No, it's a fact, and fair enough, is how the US elections seem to work.

Anyone who thinks if she was male she would have been chosen is delusional.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: tonymctones on September 01, 2008, 12:18:32 AM
No, it's a fact, and fair enough, is how the US elections seem to work.

Anyone who thinks if she was male she would have been chosen is delusional.
true that but anybody who thinks obama was chosen on his record and experience is delusional as well.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Dos Equis on September 01, 2008, 12:20:29 AM
true that but anybody who thinks obama was chosen on his record and experience is delusional as well.

Oh stop it tony.  Obama was the most qualified man in the Democrat party to be president. 
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: CQ on September 01, 2008, 04:15:41 AM
true that but anybody who thinks obama was chosen on his record and experience is delusional as well.

How many votes did he get?

Millions I believe. Democratically elected.

Palin got how many? One ;)

And she wouldn't get out the gate in a election.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 01, 2008, 04:21:20 AM
How many votes did he get?

Millions I believe. Democratically elected.

Palin got how many? One ;)

And she wouldn't get out the gate in a election.
This is starting to sound like a case for returning to the old days.  maybe not a bad idea.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: CQ on September 01, 2008, 04:52:26 AM
This is starting to sound like a case for returning to the old days.  maybe not a bad idea.

Uhh, I'm lost Hugo ???
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: Hugo Chavez on September 01, 2008, 05:00:16 AM
Uhh, I'm lost Hugo ???
VP chosen by the party leaders.  At least it wasn't by one man.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: CQ on September 01, 2008, 05:26:06 AM
Ah yes okay thanks.
Title: Re: Do your homework, dammit...
Post by: tonymctones on September 01, 2008, 07:42:14 AM
How many votes did he get?

Millions I believe. Democratically elected.

Palin got how many? One ;)

And she wouldn't get out the gate in a election.
agreed but if obama was a white male he wouldnt have done much either, so lets just be honest.

and just b/c many ppl voted for this man doesnt change the fact.