How to "nicely" escape a relationship where pressured to propose?

[AbrahamG]

You print out a photo of prime Johnny Falcon. Then sprinkle some body lotion over the image, and place some curled up tissue paper next to it. Then place it so she will find it "by accident". Problem solved! 

Wiser words have never been spoken.  Add this to your getbig quote thread.  You've earned it.

[TheShape.]

Divorced, single people giving advice on relationships. 

Didn’t you cheat on your dying wife at a homosexual gloryhole?

[Earl1972]

  Don't harm your entire life just because you don't want to "hurt her feeeeeeeeeeeeewings".  She'll get over you.

this is the best point made in the thread

if she's still in her 20's and decent looking she will meet another guy and it will be like you never existed, young decent looking women easily move on

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[Walter Sobchak]

this is the best point made in the thread

if she's still in her 20's and decent looking she will meet another guy and it will be like you never existed, young decent looking women easily move on

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Or tell her that you like her, but her nasty looking pussy makes you feel like you’re fucking Bill Murray’s face.

[IroNat]

Don't live with a woman you're not married to.

I truly believe doing so is a mistake.

[WoogsRaven]

Don't live with a woman you're not married to.

I truly believe doing so is a mistake.

So with that theory, how are unmarried men and women in a relationship supposed to know what it's like to be around one another in the same residence if marriage is intended to be in their future?

[Mr Anabolic]

Don't live with a woman you're not married to.

I truly believe doing so is a mistake.

Living with ANY woman is a big mistake.

[lightweight83]

You rarely escape things like these "nicely"...

^^^THIS! 

I was nearly in the EXACT same situation as the OP years ago.  I was 30 and had been with my gf for 2.5 years.  Lived together for almost 2 of those years and got along with her and her family really well.  So well that in time her mom/dad already considered me their son in law and her grandparents actually called me that.  She would watch "say yes to the dress" with her sister and mom and talk about how she wants a dress/wedding just like that when her and I get married. 

All the while I'm sitting there damn near sick to my stomach.  Mostly because I got married at 23 and my wife changed COMPLETELY shortly after her I got married!  She was decent to be around when we were just dating, but once we got married she turned into the biggest girl on earth!  I thank god every single day that I didn't knock her up, or I would have probably killed myself by now! LOL! I left her ass when I was 27 and told myself I would never marry a chick again unless she was unimaginably wealthy, regardless of how much I liked her!

I ended up having a sit down conversation with my GF and told her that I wanted to be with her indefinitely, but that I would never get married again as long as I lived.  This sent her into a fit of tears, to which she confided in her parents over, and they then turned on me and looked at me as a monster.  I ended up leaving her shortly after this, because our whole relationship did a 180. 

After her and I split up, she started tons of rumors about how I was a cheating scumbag and was fucking multiple girls behind her back that I met at the gym.  I live in a very small down, and this did some serious damage to my reputation at the time.  Luckily for me, girls really don't give a fuck at the end of the day, as long as you look good and have a decent income, so I was always able to pull tail. 

Just keep my story in mind, as your situation might end up very similar! LOL.  In the end, I will say that I wouldn't have done anything differently. 

[WoogsRaven]

Reading stories like this ^^^^^ constantly reassure me that paying for weekend escorts once a month is the way to go.

Your situation sounded like a goddamn nightmare. As I stated in an earlier post, I could never stand when the parents of a girlfriend try to nudge you with subtle pressure to marry their daughter. I find it sickening and feel it's merely an extension of their own vanity.

[IroNat]

So with that theory, how are unmarried men and women in a relationship supposed to know what it's like to be around one another in the same residence if marriage is intended to be in their future?

You never know for sure.  The entire dynamic of the relationship changes with marriage.  Living together unmarried is not the same  There's no real commitment. If you aren't sure she's the one then move on or keep dating.  Don't move in with her or let her move in with you.

Living together creates too many issues financially.  Maintain your independence until you're willing to commit.

[ThisisOverload]

I believe you should live with your partner for a while to see how they "really" are before getting married.  I think living with women in general is a mistake though. 

I've only lived with a few girlfriends over the years, most of them a short period of a few months, but i always had my own place.  We just kind of took turns staying at each others place, but they always felt more comfortable at their place.  I learned that living with someone for 2-3 months is very eye opening because they can't really fake anything or hide anything.  You get to see who they really are quickly.  For an independent person like me it's often a difficult experience.  I don't want to be connected at the hip with someone 24/7, it seems silly to me.

The thing i noticed about living together, is that it only takes one or two bad events to happen and it's never the same.  Seen it happen a dozen times; you get in a fight over something marginally important and the next 5-6 weeks are just pure hell; just have to wait until someone gets over it, even if you admit defeat and settle the argument, it's still "there" for a long time.  My best friend's wife thought he was cheating on her 2 years ago, no proof or anything, she just thought he was acting strange.  Still to this day she won't sleep in the same bed with him and believes he cheated on her.  My friend never did anything wrong, he said he came home drunk one night and she just started accusing him of things.  He just blew it off and she thinks because of this he's guilty.  She has no proof or evidence of anything at all, no name or time they got together, she just has a "feeling". Their daily lives suck, they live in the same house but are just friends, it's retarded.

I can go on and on, since i'm the last single guy anyone knows at my age, i'm like the one person everyone goes to with issues.  I find it funny because i've never been married but all my friends say i give the best advice.  I'm just logical, if it doesn't make sense to be with someone, don't bother.

My brother just got married and adopted her daughter.  He fell in love and got married within 18 months, i warned him to let it play out for a while.  They just bought a house together; he calls me almost every single Friday night after he's had a few beers and does nothing but complain.  It's so bad i've gotten to where i'll be stressed out by the things he's telling me.  People change so quickly when they get comfortable, it's both men and women.  But i'll tell you the women have a way to lure you in with bait and then once your hooked they do a 180, every single time.

[IroNat]

I believe you should live with your partner for a while to see how they "really" are before getting married.  I think living with women in general is a mistake though. 

I've only lived with a few girlfriends over the years, most of them a short period of a few months, but i always had my own place.  We just kind of took turns staying at each others place, but they always felt more comfortable at their place.  I learned that living with someone for 2-3 months is very eye opening because they can't really fake anything or hide anything.  You get to see who they really are quickly.  For an independent person like me it's often a difficult experience.  I don't want to be connected at the hip with someone 24/7, it seems silly to me.

The thing i noticed about living together, is that it only takes one or two bad events to happen and it's never the same.  Seen it happen a dozen times; you get in a fight over something marginally important and the next 5-6 weeks are just pure hell; just have to wait until someone gets over it, even if you admit defeat and settle the argument, it's still "there" for a long time.  My best friend's wife thought he was cheating on her 2 years ago, no proof or anything, she just thought he was acting strange.  Still to this day she won't sleep in the same bed with him and believes he cheated on her.  My friend never did anything wrong, he said he came home drunk one night and she just started accusing him of things.  He just blew it off and she thinks because of this he's guilty.  She has no proof or evidence of anything at all, no name or time they got together, she just has a "feeling". Their daily lives suck, they live in the same house but are just friends, it's retarded.

I can go on and on, since i'm the last single guy anyone knows at my age, i'm like the one person everyone goes to with issues.  I find it funny because i've never been married but all my friends say i give the best advice.  I'm just logical, if it doesn't make sense to be with someone, don't bother.

My brother just got married and adopted her daughter.  He fell in love and got married within 18 months, i warned him to let it play out for a while.  They just bought a house together; he calls me almost every single Friday night after he's had a few beers and does nothing but complain.  It's so bad i've gotten to where i'll be stressed out by the things he's telling me.  People change so quickly when they get comfortable, it's both men and women.  But i'll tell you the women have a way to lure you in with bait and then once your hooked they do a 180, every single time.

Some good points.  Keep your own place to live.  Maintain independence until marriage.

Also pick a quality woman for marriage.

[BBSSchlemiel]

I'm married. I would say don't get married to her if you don't truly love her.  Marriage is meant to be for life and not to be felt as a "life sentence". 

In all honesty, most marriages today are nothing but a contract on the man and his worth, i.e., earning power.  Women are often scum. I had three homosexual friends get divorced over the last few years, two are men and the other is a woman.

They lost nearly everything to what they felt was the "love of their life".   They fell for the whole "equality to heterosexuals bullshit".  This is LOVE...FTN.   

Women swing from branch to branch in an effort to steal as much wealth as they can.  They will marry fat, fugly piles of shit, sleep with Harvey Weinsteins and worse just to have "more". 

If you don't truly love her, you already know that.  Don't harm your entire life just because you don't want to "hurt her feeeeeeeeeeeeewings".  She'll get over you.

Which when you think about it, is a lot better than her running over you.

It’s hard to feel bad for women who go through this because if a woman is normal and a grown man doesn’t propose in a year she should know he likely won’t, and she’s free to leave.

Secondly the OP doesn’t seem like he wants children and I don’t even think it’s worth it to be with women if a man doesn’t want them.

[WoogsRaven]

If you're in your 40's and single, escorts are the way to go, fuck a relationship. I'm telling ya.

Once a month, just pay for the weekend 'girlfriend' treatment from a Russian or Ukrainian escort. Preferably one's named 'Svetlana' if possible. That one weekend by itself makes up for the other three weekends of the month where you're not getting laid.

[ThisisOverload]

If you're in your 40's and single, escorts are the way to go, fuck a relationship. I'm telling ya.

Once a month, just pay for the weekend 'girlfriend' treatment from a Russian or Ukrainian escort. Preferably one's named 'Svetlana' if possible. That one weekend by itself makes up for the other three weekends of the month where you're not getting laid.

One of my divorced friends does this now.  Once or twice a month he will pay for a full day with a gorgeous escort and just have sex all day, drink and party.  I've seen pictures of these women, they are 9's and 10's, top notch poontang.

He says it's still cheaper than being married to his ex wife. 

Not my thing, i enjoy the "hunt" so to speak.  Plus i'm not a fan of STD's or catching a case over it, but i know guys that do it; many are married. 

This guy i used to work with had this smoking hot Latina escort come over for a hour or two every Friday night.  He'd smash and then relax doing whatever he wanted the rest of the weekend.  Not too bad for him i guess.  I actually met her one time and she was super hot and had a good personality, i thought he was trying to date her for a while, but she moved to another state.  Then after a few months she calls him needing money, she got busted with counterfeit money and needed a lawyer.  Funny how things turn out i guess.

He said for the price of a fancy date night with his ex-girlfriend, he could get amazing sex with this Latina for a hour or two.  Not a bad trade off to some people i think.

[WoogsRaven]

One of my divorced friends does this now.  Once or twice a month he will pay for a full day with a gorgeous escort and just have sex all day, drink and party.  I've seen pictures of these women, they are 9's and 10's, top notch poontang.

He says it's still cheaper than being married to his ex wife. 

Not my thing, i enjoy the "hunt" so to speak.  Plus i'm not a fan of STD's or catching a case over it, but i know guys that do it; many are married. 

This guy i used to work with had this smoking hot Latina escort come over for a hour or two every Friday night.  He'd smash and then relax doing whatever he wanted the rest of the weekend.  Not too bad for him i guess.  I actually met her one time and she was super hot and had a good personality, i thought he was trying to date her for a while, but she moved to another state.  Then after a few months she calls him needing money, she got busted with counterfeit money and needed a lawyer.  Funny how things turn out i guess.

He said for the price of a fancy date night with his ex-girlfriend, he could get amazing sex with this Latina for a hour or two.  Not a bad trade off to some people i think.

I tend to agree. My girl that I hire one a month is 5'7" 130 pounds, shapely round ass. Nice natural C cup tits, athletic build. Blond hair with ivory toned skin. She's a solid 8.5. The Ukrainian accent is a huge turn on. Condoms are used so I'm not too concerned with the STD aspect. There's herpes to possibly worry about but that's skin on skin contact and not a fluid transfer, so there can also be that possibility. So far, so good. I'll keep doing it for now. Sex all day and night, she'll cook for you and cook well. Watch movies with you, sit and listen to any problems you have and strangely enough, give sound advice.

It works for me. It's cost effective and very low stress. But I'm also a rare bird amongst my friends. Mid 40's, no kids by choice, and saving up for an early retirement. Like also stated earlier by someone else, my married friends tend to gravitate to me for advice or to complain about their wives. I'm just logical when it comes to doling out advice.

[Walter Sobchak]

I tend to agree. My girl that I hire one a month is 5'7" 130 pounds, shapely round ass. Nice natural C cup tits, athletic build. Blond hair with ivory toned skin. She's a solid 8.5. The Ukrainian accent is a huge turn on. Condoms are used so I'm not too concerned with the STD aspect. There's herpes to possibly worry about but that's skin on skin contact and not a fluid transfer, so there can also be that possibility. So far, so good. I'll keep doing it for now. Sex all day and night, she'll cook for you and cook well. Watch movies with you, sit and listen to any problems you have and strangely enough, give sound advice.

It works for me. It's cost effective and very low stress. But I'm also a rare bird amongst my friends. Mid 40's, no kids by choice, and saving up for an early retirement. Like also stated earlier by someone else, my married friends tend to gravitate to me for advice or to complain about their wives. I'm just logical when it comes to doling out advice.

You can try to make that sound great all you want, but you’re buying pussy because you can’t pull any.

[Primemuscle]

You never know for sure.  The entire dynamic of the relationship changes with marriage.  Living together unmarried is not the same  There's no real commitment. If you aren't sure she's the one then move on or keep dating.  Don't move in with her or let her move in with you.

Living together creates too many issues financially.  Maintain your independence until you're willing to commit.

If you live in a State that Does Recognize Common Law Marriage
If you live in one of the above states and you “hold yourself out to be married” (by telling the community you are married, calling each other husband and wife, using the same last name, filing joint income tax returns, etc.), you can have a common law marriage. Common law marriage makes you a legally married couple in every way, even though you never obtained a marriage license. If you choose to end your relationship, you must get a divorce, even though you never had a wedding.

If You Live in a State that Does Not Recognize Common Law Marriage
There is no way to form a common law marriage, no matter how long you live with your partner. There is one catch: if you spend time in a state that does recognize common law marriage, “hold yourself out as married,” and then return or move to a state that doesn’t recognize it, you are still married.

My neighbors separated a couple of years ago after being together for around 25 years and having 3 children (all adults now). The woman moved out. They recently sold the house they lived in. It was once her parent's house. She didn't work, so one could assume he took care of the mortgage (if there was one) and maintenance costs. It would be interesting to know how they divided the proceeds.

My mom and step-dad were together for over 30 years. About 3 years into the relationship, they got married in Mexico. They later adopted my two sisters and the court recognized their marriage. When my dad started collecting SS, they discovered they weren't legally married according the Social Security office. So they married for a second time. This time in Los Angeles where they lived.   

[Walter Sobchak]

My mom and step-dad were together for over 30 years. About 3 years into the relationship, they got married in Mexico. They later adopted my two sisters and the court recognized their marriage. When my dad started collecting SS, they discovered they weren't legally married according the Social Security office. So they married for a second time. This time in Los Angeles where they lived.

So your Mom shacked up with an illegal Mexican and he had to marry her for citizenship.

He adopted your sisters and used you for a sex toy.

It’s no wonder that you’re so fucked up in the head.

[IroNat]

If you live in a State that Does Recognize Common Law Marriage
If you live in one of the above states and you “hold yourself out to be married” (by telling the community you are married, calling each other husband and wife, using the same last name, filing joint income tax returns, etc.), you can have a common law marriage. Common law marriage makes you a legally married couple in every way, even though you never obtained a marriage license. If you choose to end your relationship, you must get a divorce, even though you never had a wedding.

If You Live in a State that Does Not Recognize Common Law Marriage
There is no way to form a common law marriage, no matter how long you live with your partner. There is one catch: if you spend time in a state that does recognize common law marriage, “hold yourself out as married,” and then return or move to a state that doesn’t recognize it, you are still married.

My neighbors separated a couple of years ago after being together for around 25 years and having 3 children (all adults now). The woman moved out. They recently sold the house they lived in. It was once her parent's house. She didn't work, so one could assume he took care of the mortgage (if there was one) and maintenance costs. It would be interesting to know how they divided the proceeds.

My mom and step-dad were together for over 30 years. About 3 years into the relationship, they got married in Mexico. They later adopted my two sisters and the court recognized their marriage. When my dad started collecting SS, they discovered they weren't legally married according the Social Security office. So they married for a second time. This time in Los Angeles where they lived.   

And what does any of this have to do with my post?

[WoogsRaven]

You can try to make that sound great all you want, but you’re buying pussy because you can’t pull any.

What a naïve fucking statement if there ever was one. It's a choice, my inexperienced friend. I'm likely older than you are as well. Dating costs money. You're buying pussy one way or another if you're a single guy.

[falco]

Leave her or you will become her and her family bitch.

[El Diablo Blanco]

You can try to make that sound great all you want, but you’re buying pussy because you can’t pull any.

You always pay for pussy.  Whether financially, emotionally or intellectually.  Sometimes just having a hot whore fuck the shit out of you and leave is real nice.  No games, no attitude, nothing.

[El Diablo Blanco]

I tend to agree. My girl that I hire one a month is 5'7" 130 pounds, shapely round ass. Nice natural C cup tits, athletic build. Blond hair with ivory toned skin. She's a solid 8.5. The Ukrainian accent is a huge turn on. Condoms are used so I'm not too concerned with the STD aspect. There's herpes to possibly worry about but that's skin on skin contact and not a fluid transfer, so there can also be that possibility. So far, so good. I'll keep doing it for now. Sex all day and night, she'll cook for you and cook well. Watch movies with you, sit and listen to any problems you have and strangely enough, give sound advice.

It works for me. It's cost effective and very low stress. But I'm also a rare bird amongst my friends. Mid 40's, no kids by choice, and saving up for an early retirement. Like also stated earlier by someone else, my married friends tend to gravitate to me for advice or to complain about their wives. I'm just logical when it comes to doling out advice.

What does she cost you per weekend?  How did you find her?

[WoogsRaven]

What does she cost you per weekend?  How did you find her?

I found out about her through an escort I was with at the Bellagio in Las Vegas. She recommended her when I told her where I was from. She comes up from DC to Maryland. She used to come accompanied with a bodyguard but stopped after I hired her 3 times. Typically, I would have her come up Saturday afternoon and leave Sunday late morning. I don't get much sleep in between those hours so it's quality time spent. Ranges between $1,000-$1,500 depending on what our plans are. There are occasions during the year where I will go more than 6+ weeks before I see her again. I do have one other 'regular' woman that I see on the side from time to time. So I try to space it all out.