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Signed,
We all know it will happen eventually. Why not announce it now?
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Signed,
We all know it will happen eventually. Why not announce it now?
probably the same reason why Hilary/Romney or Huckabee aren't announcing now.
What are they supposed to do? Campaign for the next four years while we have a brand new POTUS?
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probably the same reason why Hilary/Romney or Huckabee aren't announcing now.
What are they supposed to do? Campaign for the next four years while we have a brand new POTUS?
Obama campaigned for 2.5 years :)
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you ever find proof of any of those things that the campaign aid leaked as far as ive heard its all rumor as of now?
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probably the same reason why Hilary/Romney or Huckabee aren't announcing now.
What are they supposed to do? Campaign for the next four years while we have a brand new POTUS?
Do you think Hillary will try again? Somehow I don't.
Romney is a sure bet I think for 2012, and I think Palin will end up as well.
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Do you think Hillary will try again? Somehow I don't.
Romney is a sure bet I think for 2012, and I think Palin will end up as well.
right now my guess would be no (re: Hilary)
I don't think any potential candidate has made any decision at this point
I don't count Palin in that group of potential candidates
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Hilary will not run in 2012, she's not going to run against someone in her own party who already holds the spot...that's not how presidential elections work. There won't even be a democratic primary in 2012. They will hold their convention as they always do and announce Obama as the candidate. That's how it's pretty much always worked in presidential elections.
2012 GOP ticket:
Romney
Gingrich
Huckabee
Those three are pretty safe bets. Palin, hard to say right now, she will more then likely focus on the Senate seat that will be open next year. If she succeeds and she probably will, then maybe the presidential race in 2012.
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Hilary will not run in 2012, she's not going to run against someone in her own party who already holds the spot...that's not how presidential elections work. There won't even be a democratic primary in 2012. They will hold their convention as they always do and announce Obama as the candidate. That's how it's pretty much always worked in presidential elections.
2012 GOP ticket:
Romney
Gingrich
Huckabee
Those three are pretty safe bets. Palin, hard to say right now, she will more then likely focus on the Senate seat that will be open next year. If she succeeds and she probably will, then maybe the presidential race in 2012.
I would agree with almost everything except Gingrich
that dude is poison
I'm sure Palin has the ambition/delusion that she is qualified but I just don't see it happening
btw - my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it
or maybe slightly less
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I dont see palin on the ticket in 2012. At least I dont think she will be a viable canidate. I could be wrong.
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I gotta admit... Every day, Ron Paul actually sounds like a better and better candidate for the Repubs.
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Romney is a Mormon. Forget about his candidacy. He was rejected by the Religious Right once before, and will be again.
Palin very well could run in 2012. Dems would be pleased and would guarantee many more years of Democratic majority power.
The Republican Party is pretty much dead in the water right now. It can either go further to the Left or start espousing a hardline Nationalist slant.
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I would agree with almost everything except Gingrich
that dude is poison
I'm sure Palin has the ambition/delusion that she is qualified but I just don't see it happening
btw - my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it
or maybe slightly less
I'm not saying Gingrich is the right or wrong man for the job, just that he will more then likely be on the ticket. He is still one of the more popular members of the GOP, he has gained even more popularity in the past year.
Many republicans still view him as the right guy on the right. He pulled off one of the biggest swings in U.S. history in 94 and most in the GOP haven't forgotten that.
Palin, still to early to tell...the next year or so will make or break her.
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I would agree with almost everything except Gingrich
that dude is poison
I'm sure Palin has the ambition/delusion that she is qualified but I just don't see it happening
btw - my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it
or maybe slightly less
Romney is the front-runner, but the religious right won't accept him. He will need to win that base in order to head that ticket.
Palin is a joke, to put it bluntly and she will be nothing more than a Republican fundraiser or Senator on the national stage.
Her political career in terms of Presidential politics was over before it began.
These stories coming out of the McCain campaign pretty much support what I thought about her all along.
This country's obsession with "average" scares me.
When people like Bush and Palin slip through the cracks and rise to power remind me just how far we've fallen.
Obama is the best the country has to offer.
Palin is the worst..... ::)
DIV
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This country's obsession with "average" scares me.
And what is it that you do that is so extraordinary?
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And what is it that you do that is so extraordinary?
I know more about politics than Palin ever did........
The difference is, I'm too honest to be a politician and I use copious amounts of AAS, which preclude me from ever entering politics.
I'm smart enought to know that I wouldn't be successful in politics.
Palin isn't, hence "average".
McCain's own people called her and her husband "hillbillies raiding Niemen Marcus from coast to coast.....".
That's enough for me.
DIV
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You use, in your own words, "copious amounts of AAS" and label yourself to know more than Palin did about politics?
Come on now... let's not be ridiculous. Not knowing Africa is a continent doesn't mean Palin is a bad politician. She was running for the second most powerful position in the US government and you think you're better versed in politics?
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Bah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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I would agree with almost everything except Gingrich
that dude is poison
I'm sure Palin has the ambition/delusion that she is qualified but I just don't see it happening
btw - my opinion is worth exactly what you paid for it
or maybe slightly less
Gingrich is the smartest by far of the bunch.
He really is a giant among mice as far as brainpower is concerned on most issues.
He would destroy ZERO royally in a debate.
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Gingrich is the smartest by far of the bunch.
He really is a giant among mice as far as brainpower is concerned on most issues.
He would destroy ZERO royally in a debate.
No doubt Gingrich is smart but he's got way too many skeletons and every once and awhile he says something completely nutty. Personally, I just think his time has passed.
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No doubt Gingrich is smart but he's got way too many skeletons and every once and awhile he says something completely nutty. Personally, I just think his time has passed.
I agree, however, most morons dont want to hear someone like him who speaks the truth on many issues.
I just wish he would be allowed to debate ZERO. It would have been a massacre on every level and on every issue.
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Gingrich is very smart and has incredible experience.
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Gingrich made a really disturbing statement in 2006 about the need to curtail free speech.
He was also an extremely divisive figure in the House and was ultimately run out of Washington by his own party
He's got a few personal issues that some people might not like
I seriously doubt he would have enough support for a serious run in 2012
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Gingrich made a really disturbing statement in 2006 about the need to curtail free speech.
He was also an extremely divisive figure in the House and was ultimately run out of Washington by his own party
He's got a few personal issues that some people might not like
I seriously doubt he would have enough support for a serious run in 2012
I think he would be best as RNC Chairman or as the person heading up a strategy to regain the congress from that disgraceful hag Pelosi.
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She'll be around and should be one of the frontrunners in 2012.
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She'll be around and should be one of the frontrunners in 2012.
If Sarah Palin spends the next two years brushing up on the details of issues like the Judiciary and Foreign Policy she will be a force of nature without having McCain and the other hacks in DC holding her back. Even in her latest interviews, she said that the McCain campaign held her back and would not let her be herself.
I also like Jindel.
ZERO is going to make a bad situation worse.
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If Sarah Palin spends the next two years brushing up on the details of issues like the Judiciary and Foreign Policy she will be a force of nature without having McCain and the other hacks in DC holding her back. Even in her latest interviews, she said that the McCain campaign held her back and would not let her be herself.
I also like Jindel.
ZERO is going to make a bad situation worse.
Completely agree about Palin. I watched portions of her at the Republican governor's conference this morning. She's excellent.
I really don't know anything about Jindel, but he looks good on paper. I'd like to hear more about him.
I really do hope that Obama doesn't make things worse.
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Completely agree about Palin. I watched portions of her at the Republican governor's conference this morning. She's excellent.
I really don't know anything about Jindel, but he looks good on paper. I'd like to hear more about him.
I really do hope that Obama doesn't make things worse.
Considering he plans on putting Jamie Gorelick as AG, what do you think will happen? This is Clinton 1993 redux - Podesta, Rahm Emanuel, Warren Christopher, Gorelick, et al.
This is the change we were waiting for?????
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Considering he plans on putting Jamie Gorelick as AG, what do you think will happen? This is Clinton 1993 redux - Podesta, Rahm Emanuel, Warren Christopher, Gorelick, et al.
This is the change we were waiting for?????
Where did you hear this?
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she will be a force of nature without having McCain and the other hacks in DC holding her back.
She declined any help prepping for the Couric interview.
Was mccain holding her back then?
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Completely agree about Palin. I watched portions of her at the Republican governor's conference this morning. She's excellent.
I really don't know anything about Jindel, but he looks good on paper. I'd like to hear more about him.
I really do hope that Obama doesn't make things worse.
I watched as much as I could stomach of the Palin show today. She is an absolutely horrible speaker. I find it truly weird that anyone can listen to her and think she's excellent.
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I watched as much as I could stomach of the Palin show today. She is an absolutely horrible speaker. I find it truly weird that anyone can listen to her and think she's excellent.
She did a great job. She is exactly what Washington needs.
I'm not surprised you find it weird.
It is truly weird that she was elected to the city council, mayor, and governor. Weird that she had a 90 percent approval rating. Weird that she was voted as the most popular governor in America by her peers.
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She did a great job. She is exactly what Washington needs.
I'm not surprised you find it weird.
It is truly weird that she was elected to the city council, mayor, and governor. Weird that she had a 90 percent approval rating. Weird that she was voted as the most popular governor in America by her peers.
and I have to say I'm not suprised you think she's "excellent" and "exactly what Washington needs"
It says A LOT about you
BTW - many of her "peers" at the governors conference were less than complimentary.
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Wow.
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alaska is the incest/meth capital of america.
I'm not so sure their judgment is sound.
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Wow.
I just find it weird that you look and her and think she's excellent when a majority of the world looks at her and thinks she's marginal at best and a train-wreck at worst.
what is it that you see that most other people aren't seeing?
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I just find it weird that you look and her and think she's excellent when a majority of the world looks at her and thinks she's marginal at best and a train-wreck at worst.
what is it that you see that most other people aren't seeing?
Think of it like being an atheist in a country where 80 or 90 percent of the people believe in God, and you're part of the 10 percent or less who does not. I guess we could call atheists weird in that instance.
In this instance, it's pretty juvenile to think anyone who likes Palin is "weird," for the reasons I've already stated. She's not going anywhere. She'll be a major player in the Republican party. And she'll probably continue to do an excellent job leaning her state as governor, or serving the country as senator.
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Think of it like being an atheist in a country where 80 or 90 percent of the people believe in God, and you're part of the 10 percent or less who does not. I guess we could call atheists weird in that instance.
In this instance, it's pretty juvenile to think anyone who likes Palin is "weird," for the reasons I've already stated. She's not going anywhere. She'll be a major player in the Republican party. And she'll probably continue to do an excellent job leaning her state as governor, or serving the country as senator.
Your profound cheerleading for Palin is just queer.
you don't just like her... you think she's excellent which is an opinion not shared by many people even among her supporters
Did you see that press conference today? I've never seen a person talk so much while saying nothing. She was mercifully pushed aside after only 4 or 5 questions.
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what the hell is going on in this video?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/13/palins-first-press-confer_n_143576.html
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Your profound cheerleading for Palin is just queer.
you don't just like her... you think she's excellent which is an opinion not shared by many people even among her supporters
Regardless if Palin is excellent or not, regardless if she is smart has leadership qualities or not, saying that the view of her being excellent is not shared by her supporters is kind of ridiculous. She has the highest approval rating of anyone in the GOP, every poll shows that she is more popular in the GOP then anyone else. Whether or not she be a contender in 2012 is impossible to say, but she is as of now the most desired person in the GOP for that spot. Rasmussen has her at 70%
Did you see that press conference today? I've never seen a person talk so much while saying nothing. She was mercifully pushed aside after only 4 or 5 questions.
That's the nature of politics and politicians at their best...every single one of them, lol! I didn't see Palin today so I can't speak on this particular event but if she did do what you're saying then she's no different from anyone in either party.
I mean come on, Obama just won the presidency by saying almost nothing for nearly 2 years.
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Regardless if Palin is excellent or not, regardless if she is smart has leadership qualities or not, saying that the view of her being excellent is not shared by her supporters is kind of ridiculous. She has the highest approval rating of anyone in the GOP, every poll shows that she is more popular in the GOP then anyone else. Whether or not she be a contender in 2012 is impossible to say, but she is as of now the most desired person in the GOP for that spot. Rasmussen has her at 70%
That's the nature of politics and politicians at their best...every single one of them, lol! I didn't see Palin today so I can't speak on this particular event but if she did do what you're saying then she's no different from anyone in either party.
I mean come on, Obama just won the presidency by saying almost nothing for nearly 2 years.
I'm sure the view of her supporters is that she is "excellent"
I think Sam Harris called her a show pony
I would steal from him and add my own cruel and insensitive remarks and call her retarted show pony
I just assumed most people understood that
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People either love her, or hate her.
And less than 40% of America loves her.
She'll be irrelevant in 2012. She's great for ratings now... but how many people donated big $ in 2008, only to watch the perception of her sink the campaign? She might be a great leader, etc, but is she REALLY better prepared for the job than
Romney
Rudy
Newt
pawlenty
and a host of others?
Um, no.
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People either love her, or hate her.
there are probably a lot of people who like her or at least don't hate her and still don't support her in any way as a politician.
that's what makes Beach Bunny so queer
he thinks Palin is excellent and "exactly what Washington needs"
She did a great job. She is exactly what Washington needs.
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People either love her, or hate her.
And less than 40% of America loves her.
She'll be irrelevant in 2012. She's great for ratings now... but how many people donated big $ in 2008, only to watch the perception of her sink the campaign? She might be a great leader, etc, but is she REALLY better prepared for the job than
Romney
Rudy
Newt
pawlenty
and a host of others?
Um, no.
Right now as it is I do like her and think she has a lot of potential. But as for her being exactly what we need or what the GOP needs, IMO it's too soon to say for certain. She's too new, and still needs to climb the political ladder and show everyone what she's made of.
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She declined any help prepping for the Couric interview.
Was mccain holding her back then?
I admit the Couric interview was not good. However, she was literally plucked from Alaska with no preparation for all of this. She has not spent time pondering esoteric things like supreme court decisions she disagrees with. She has been running a state and does not spend time of those things. She has spent time on things like energy, budgets, etc, something ZERO has never done in his life.
ZERO, without his teleprompter, is literally unlistenable in an interview situation. Not only does he speak in circles, but never tells the truth about anything.
William Ayers came out today and refuted the lies ZERO told and said the Obamas are family friends. It also came out that he admited earlier to having gone to Re. Wright church weekly when he said he never heard anything.
ZERO is simply a well spoken liar who knows how to say a lot of words without saying a damn thing of substance or meaning. His first press conference was evidence of that.
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there are probably a lot of people who like her or at least don't hate her and still don't support her in any way as a politician.
that's what makes Beach Bunny so queer
he thinks Palin is excellent and "exactly what Washington needs"
She did a great job. She is exactly what Washington needs.
lol. Shouldn't you be off smoking your "occasional" joint?
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lol. Shouldn't you be off smoking your "occasional" joint?
is that the best you can do?
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Regardless if Palin is excellent or not, regardless if she is smart has leadership qualities or not, saying that the view of her being excellent is not shared by her supporters is kind of ridiculous. She has the highest approval rating of anyone in the GOP, every poll shows that she is more popular in the GOP then anyone else. Whether or not she be a contender in 2012 is impossible to say, but she is as of now the most desired person in the GOP for that spot. Rasmussen has her at 70%
That's the nature of politics and politicians at their best...every single one of them, lol! I didn't see Palin today so I can't speak on this particular event but if she did do what you're saying then she's no different from anyone in either party.
I mean come on, Obama just won the presidency by saying almost nothing for nearly 2 years.
She may be the GOP hot ticket... but everyone who is not a card carrying Republican will never vote for her now.
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She may be the GOP hot ticket... but everyone who is not a card carrying Republican will never vote for her now.
You may be right...only time will tell.
I don't think anyone would have thought that Obama would be president 2 years ago. No political expert would have ever thought that an extreme leftist could be president any more then a extreme right wing fanatic. But that's what happened.
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You may be right...only time will tell.
I don't think anyone would have thought that Obama would be president 2 years ago. No political expert would have ever thought that an extreme leftist could be president any more then a extreme right wing fanatic. But that's what happened.
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I didn't know it was a secret that Obama was an extreme leftist? I thought this was pretty common knowledge, across the board.
You know they're are several neutral/bipartisan outlets out there that rank each senator every year according to how liberal or conservative they are based on their voting record. In 2007 Obama had the most liberal voting record of any U.S. senator, therefore making him the senator who was furthest to the left...more then Kennedy, more then Reid, more then Pulosi or anyone else on the left.