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Monday, December 12, 2011
Big Steroids Bust in Poland!
Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
A major steroids bust in Poland has disrupted the European black market for anabolic steroids and performance-enhancing drugs. Over 250 police officers and customs agents were involved in the..........http://anabolicscene.blogspot.com/ (http://anabolicscene.blogspot.com/)
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don't worry,
gh15 is on the phone with his buddy in Washington
:D :D
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looked to me from the video posted that it was a small time gym rat with a couple hundred bottles of test and a few hundred Sustenon amps. ::)
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I hope Hillary can solve this out ::)
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Repost, and it was Naps
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we can all sleep safer now that europen biceps are shrinking.
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livers and kidneys in polish gyms can now rest easier :D
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That will not affect me because i only take celltech.
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This might be the first time I ask a somewhat intelligent question on here but- What, if anything, does this mean for other "suppliers/providers" Overseas?
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This might be the first time I ask a somewhat intelligent question on here but- What, if anything, does this mean for other "suppliers/providers" Overseas?
More sales since Naps has been open 2 weeks in the last 3 - 4 months
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This might be the first time I ask a somewhat intelligent question on here but- What, if anything, does this mean for other "suppliers/providers" Overseas?
It means the smart ones will be laying LOW!
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Can anyone explain to me how securenym.net works lol?
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Can anyone explain to me how securenym.net works lol?
Have to pay to use it, they are private email server's that send fully encrypted emails and are loacted out of the reach of Uncle Sam.
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naps is really bad at bribing people, he moved to poland from moldovia for this reason, and now in poland he is raided so soon after he starts up again lol
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Not so sure this is naps. I read an article that said these guys were counterfeiting a major European UGL.
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yeah not saying actually its naps, the video was boring so didn't watch the whole thing, could just be some propaganda
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It was not Naps.
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It means the smart ones will be laying LOW!
;D
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It was not Naps.
I tend to believe you, but how are you confirming this?
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I know cats that started laying low for a long while before this happened. Rumors are always flying around, but the DEA and other LEO are always watching and planning things. Always stay safe, not just when the rumour mill is spinning.
I heard these fellas got rolled on by a guy who turned a deal. Dirty rat.
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i have a feeling these kinds things happen less because someone rolled, but more because a large operation is hard to hide, le knows all along, and they wait until they are told to do it because someone has something to gain, like some district commander wants to look good, or there is a high profile news story that brings steroids into the public consciousness so to speak, and therefor it increases the demand for steroid busts
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I tend to believe you, but how are you confirming this?
Because I know someone involved personally. It was not Naps it was Oscaro and his team.
Even without knowing someone, there are 3 things from the video to go by:
1 -Oscaro buys Geneza in bulk, this is well known
2 - Oscaro is known for his Poland sust amps specials and deals - see the quantity in the video
3 - Naps wouldn't have been raided in a private home or resident townhouse. If they wanted Naps they would simply go to his facility there. He doesn't operate out of houses.
Naps has a facility in the same country. The reason he went on vacation is for no other reason than it is going to be nearly impossible to ship regular packs out of that country for a while now with all the heat.
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Suddenly all Polish bodybuilder start to look smaller! ;)
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Because I know someone involved personally. It was not Naps it was Oscaro and his team.
Even without knowing someone, there are 3 things from the video to go by:
1 -Oscaro buys Geneza in bulk, this is well known
2 - Oscaro is known for his Poland sust amps specials and deals - see the quantity in the video
3 - Naps wouldn't have been raided in a private home or resident townhouse. If they wanted Naps they would simply go to his facility there. He doesn't operate out of houses.
Naps has a facility in the same country. The reason he went on vacation is for no other reason than it is going to be nearly impossible to ship regular packs out of that country for a while now with all the heat.
Yep, I completely agree with you here. I said on another board it looked like O when this first happened. Lots of guys on AB were saying O. Thanks for the solid information. I read an article that said they were counterfeiters counterfeiting a major European UGL. Do you know anything about this?
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isnt Jelfa out of Poland?
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This might be the first time I ask a somewhat intelligent question on here but- What, if anything, does this mean for other "suppliers/providers" Overseas?
it's a drop in the bucket. now if it were a Chinese powder supplier that's a different story.
this bust is like trying to stop the ocean from reaching the shore of the western US from Washington to california using a 16ft 2'x4'
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Yep, I completely agree with you here. I said on another board it looked like O when this first happened. Lots of guys on AB were saying O. Thanks for the solid information. I read an article that said they were counterfeiters counterfeiting a major European UGL. Do you know anything about this?
Naps was the only one that was directly supplying them with Geneza. Every other brand they had was an inhouse operation that had counterfeit labels on it. Real gear inside, just fake labels of another lab.
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it's a drop in the bucket. now if it were a Chinese powder supplier that's a different story.
this bust is like trying to stop the ocean from reaching the shore of the western US from Washington to california using a 16ft 2'x4'
This is so true, it will never be stopped. Kind of sad they even waste their time and money on steroids, when they could be busting crack, meth, and heroin dealers.
Naps was the only one that was directly supplying them with Geneza. Every other brand they had was an inhouse operation that had counterfeit labels on it. Real gear inside, just fake labels of another lab.
Any idea what lab they were counterfeiting?
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This is so true, it will never be stopped. Kind of sad they even waste their time and money on steroids, when they could be busting crack, meth, and heroin dealers.
Any idea what lab they were counterfeiting?
I wish they would legalize steroids already. I would say the majority of users are educated productive members of society. It's bullshit!
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Really it's a victimless crime. How many steroid users do you see robbing and murdering for a fix? None!
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Really it's a victimless crime. How many steroid users do you see robbing and murdering for a fix? None!
Joe Biden the Vice President of the United States admitted openly to being bullied and beaten out for spots on sports teams for guys who juiced, what do you think these virginal nerds are going to do once they get into office? they are going to go after all the big bad juiced bullies who got all the hot girls, beat them up, made fun of them, put their heads in the toilet and lived the good life while they cried their skinny zit face bodies to sleep at night.
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Joe Biden the Vice President of the United States admitted openly to being bullied and beaten out for spots on sports teams for guys who juiced, what do you think these virginal nerds are going to do once they get into office? they are going to go after all the big bad juiced bullies who got all the hot girls, beat them up, made fun of them, put their heads in the toilet and lived the good life while they cried their skinny zit face bodies to sleep at night.
;D
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its no different than the 118 pound high school senior who hid in his basement day after day smoking weed out of fear that the 250 pound football players were going to hang him by his underwear on the flagpole so he dropped out, got a GED, went to the police academy and now patrols the street with a VENGEANCE, threatening to beat up or mace anyone who disagrees with him and pulls people over for doing 28 in a 25 MPH zone, i've always said, if youre against gear you fall into three categories, 1) youre too poor to afford it, 2) youre too chickenshit to use it or 3) you were picked on by someone who used it and now use your "authority" to get back at the people who abused you.
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Naps was the only one that was directly supplying them with Geneza. Every other brand they had was an inhouse operation that had counterfeit labels on it. Real gear inside, just fake labels of another lab.
do you know if their omnadrens were also counterfeit it was obvious their organon amps were and their pink thais
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IT WAS NOT OSCARO...
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The Fruitarians of the world are not worried - let me know if apples become hard to get - then I will worry
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IT WAS NOT OSCARO...
Lets hope not!
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its no different than the 118 pound high school senior who hid in his basement day after day smoking weed out of fear that the 250 pound football players were going to hang him by his underwear on the flagpole so he dropped out, got a GED, went to the police academy and now patrols the street with a VENGEANCE, threatening to beat up or mace anyone who disagrees with him and pulls people over for doing 28 in a 25 MPH zone, i've always said, if youre against gear you fall into three categories, 1) youre too poor to afford it, 2) youre too chickenshit to use it or 3) you were picked on by someone who used it and now use your "authority" to get back at the people who abused you.
Beautifully spoken,thank you for this:)
IT WAS NOT OSCARO...
Speak on this, how do you know.
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Really it's a victimless crime. How many steroid users do you see robbing and murdering for a fix? None!
It's been proven time and time again, and was even argued during the original steroid hearings that led to the 1990 Act. The majority of those who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance are otherwise law abiding citizens. Of those who supplement, almost 100% have graduated high school and I can't remember the exact number but more than half have at least some college education. The stats about employment are also very telling.
The war on steroids cannot be won because those fighting it approach it like they do recreational drugs, but you won't find steroid users behaving like rec drug users, and you won't find too many suppliers behaving like rec suppliers.
Another interesting stat, in the U.S., according to government statistics, there are over 6-million American adults who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance enhancement. This was the U.S. gov. estimate around 2005-2006 but market activity estimates that it's closer to two or even three times that amount. That means there's a possible 12-18-million adults in the U.S. supplementing and if the majority were hardened criminals I'm pretty sure we would have noticed by now.
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newdawn, the only thing i can tell ya is that it is not O.. been in contact with him lately.. wish i could say more..
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It's been proven time and time again, and was even argued during the original steroid hearings that led to the 1990 Act. The majority of those who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance are otherwise law abiding citizens. Of those who supplement, almost 100% have graduated high school and I can't remember the exact number but more than half have at least some college education. The stats about employment are also very telling.
The war on steroids cannot be won because those fighting it approach it like they do recreational drugs, but you won't find steroid users behaving like rec drug users, and you won't find too many suppliers behaving like rec suppliers.
Another interesting stat, in the U.S., according to government statistics, there are over 6-million American adults who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance enhancement. This was the U.S. gov. estimate around 2005-2006 but market activity estimates that it's closer to two or even three times that amount. That means there's a possible 12-18-million adults in the U.S. supplementing and if the majority were hardened criminals I'm pretty sure we would have noticed by now.
I bet the numbers are much higher now for educated users as well. Very nice post AJ, thank you.
newdawn, the only thing i can tell ya is that it is not O.. been in contact with him lately.. wish i could say more..
The more research I do on this subject the more I am starting to believe this as well. Thank you for your input bro.
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1) youre too poor to afford it, 2) youre too chickenshit to use it or 3) you were picked on by someone who used it and now use your "authority" to get back at the people who abused you.
this shit is stupid you have to define "against it" though as in not wanting to use, of "steroids are the biggets problem in the world" if the second then almost all people are number 5. Not anything you mentioned
4) you're not insecure
5) not informed enough (most people fall into this category)
etc
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A lot of AI and PCT shit went up in price, dramatically. So happy I stocked up earlier this Fall.
Also lol at police guys going in dressed in full SWAT gear as if they are expecting all the juicers to go HULK mode on them, lmao.
Just because you use steroids does not mean you're evolving into the Hulk or becoming a terrorist.
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A lot of AI and PCT shit went up in price, dramatically. So happy I stocked up earlier this Fall.
Also lol at police guys going in dressed in full SWAT gear as if they are expecting all the juicers to go HULK mode on them, lmao.
Just because you use steroids does not mean you're evolving into the Hulk or becoming a terrorist.
It's how they act though! They act as if they are taking down a terrorist camp in the mountains of Afghanistan.
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they go in full gear no matter what, vice goes around with submachine guns in nyc even to raid a night club or a poker room
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they go in full gear no matter what, vice goes around with submachine guns in nyc even to raid a night club or a poker room
Yeah I understand that, I just think it's funny that they are arresting guys in short shorts and tank tops like their killing terrorists.
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yeah it is overkill
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It's been proven time and time again, and was even argued during the original steroid hearings that led to the 1990 Act. The majority of those who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance are otherwise law abiding citizens. Of those who supplement, almost 100% have graduated high school and I can't remember the exact number but more than half have at least some college education. The stats about employment are also very telling.
The war on steroids cannot be won because those fighting it approach it like they do recreational drugs, but you won't find steroid users behaving like rec drug users, and you won't find too many suppliers behaving like rec suppliers.
Another interesting stat, in the U.S., according to government statistics, there are over 6-million American adults who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance enhancement. This was the U.S. gov. estimate around 2005-2006 but market activity estimates that it's closer to two or even three times that amount. That means there's a possible 12-18-million adults in the U.S. supplementing and if the majority were hardened criminals I'm pretty sure we would have noticed by now.
Its still either young males or successful white collar males who want to get that physique they always wanted. Just browse anabolicminds or other ph or juice forums. Its either young guys or guys past 30 who want to get really fucking jacked,
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It wasnt oscaro he posted up else where saying he was good but laying low checking email once a week
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Joe Biden the Vice President of the United States admitted openly to being bullied and beaten out for spots on sports teams for guys who juiced, what do you think these virginal nerds are going to do once they get into office? they are going to go after all the big bad juiced bullies who got all the hot girls, beat them up, made fun of them, put their heads in the toilet and lived the good life while they cried their skinny zit face bodies to sleep at night.
Spot on 8)
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It wasnt oscaro he posted up else where saying he was good but laying low checking email once a week
Do you know how many times I have heard busted sources claiming they aren't busted? Be careful man, it might not be him posting. You never know. I hope he's not busted, but you never know. I remember when Gymace was taken down on SSB, JTP815's girlfriend was o the board claiming he was fine and there were no problems.
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I think O was selling fake omnas. well maybe some of them were real ut think about it O has been selling omnas for years in huge amounts . How could you possibly get those amounts unless it is counterfeit.
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Do you know how many times I have heard busted sources claiming they aren't busted? Be careful man, it might not be him posting. You never know. I hope he's not busted, but you never know. I remember when Gymace was taken down on SSB, JTP815's girlfriend was o the board claiming he was fine and there were no problems.
Very very true thanks for the heads up