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Title: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 13, 2011, 09:11:24 AM
Monday, December 12, 2011

Big Steroids Bust in Poland!

 Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
A major steroids bust in Poland has disrupted the European black market for anabolic steroids and performance-enhancing drugs. Over 250 police officers and customs agents were involved in the..........http://anabolicscene.blogspot.com/ (http://anabolicscene.blogspot.com/)
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: Schmoff on December 13, 2011, 09:13:34 AM
don't worry,

gh15 is on the phone with his buddy in Washington

 :D :D
 
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: QuakerOats on December 13, 2011, 09:15:02 AM
looked to me from the video posted that it was a small time gym rat with a couple hundred bottles of test and a few hundred Sustenon amps. ::)
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: mass243 on December 13, 2011, 09:16:29 AM

I hope Hillary can solve this out  ::)  
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: BIG_STI on December 13, 2011, 09:23:11 AM
Repost, and it was Naps
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: 240 is Back on December 13, 2011, 09:25:07 AM
we can all sleep safer now that europen biceps are shrinking.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: io856 on December 13, 2011, 09:28:25 AM
livers and kidneys in polish gyms can now rest easier  :D
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: musclecenter on December 13, 2011, 09:31:26 AM
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: the trainer on December 13, 2011, 09:34:01 AM
That will not affect me because i only take celltech.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: johnnynoname on December 13, 2011, 09:35:57 AM
This might be the first time I ask a somewhat intelligent question on here but- What, if anything, does this mean for other "suppliers/providers" Overseas?
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: BIG_STI on December 13, 2011, 09:49:33 AM
This might be the first time I ask a somewhat intelligent question on here but- What, if anything, does this mean for other "suppliers/providers" Overseas?

More sales since Naps has been open 2 weeks in the last 3 - 4 months
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 13, 2011, 09:50:46 AM
This might be the first time I ask a somewhat intelligent question on here but- What, if anything, does this mean for other "suppliers/providers" Overseas?

It means the smart ones will be laying LOW!
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: johnnynoname on December 13, 2011, 09:52:29 AM
Can anyone explain to me how securenym.net works lol?
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: BIG_STI on December 13, 2011, 10:12:43 AM
Can anyone explain to me how securenym.net works lol?

Have to pay to use it, they are private email server's that send fully encrypted emails and are loacted out of the reach of Uncle Sam.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: apply85 on December 13, 2011, 10:37:11 AM
naps is really bad at bribing people, he moved to poland from moldovia for this reason, and now in poland he is raided so soon after he starts up again lol
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 13, 2011, 11:59:34 AM
Not so sure this is naps. I read an article that said these guys were counterfeiting a major European UGL.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: apply85 on December 13, 2011, 12:02:27 PM
yeah not saying actually its naps, the video was boring so didn't watch the whole thing, could just be some propaganda
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 13, 2011, 12:04:09 PM
It was not Naps.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: Spicoli on December 13, 2011, 01:04:43 PM
It means the smart ones will be laying LOW!

 ;D
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 13, 2011, 05:13:05 PM
It was not Naps.

I tend to believe you, but how are you confirming this?
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: dustin on December 13, 2011, 05:20:54 PM
I know cats that started laying low for a long while before this happened. Rumors are always flying around, but the DEA and other LEO are always watching and planning things. Always stay safe, not just when the rumour mill is spinning.

I heard these fellas got rolled on by a guy who turned a deal. Dirty rat.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: apply85 on December 13, 2011, 07:50:07 PM
i have a feeling these kinds things happen less because someone rolled, but more because a large operation is hard to hide, le knows all along, and they wait until they are told to do it because someone has something to gain, like some district commander wants to look good, or there is a high profile news story that brings steroids into the public consciousness so to speak, and therefor it increases the demand for steroid busts
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 14, 2011, 06:19:43 AM
I tend to believe you, but how are you confirming this?

Because I know someone involved personally.  It was not Naps it was Oscaro and his team. 

Even without knowing someone, there are 3 things from the video to go by:
1 -Oscaro buys Geneza in bulk, this is well known
2 - Oscaro is known for his Poland sust amps specials and deals - see the quantity in the video
3 - Naps wouldn't have been raided in a private home or resident townhouse.  If they wanted Naps they would simply go to his facility there.  He doesn't operate out of houses.

Naps has a facility in the same country.  The reason he went on vacation is for no other reason than it is going to be nearly impossible to ship regular packs out of that country for a while now with all the heat.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: MrBigandCut on December 14, 2011, 06:57:42 AM
Suddenly all Polish bodybuilder start to look smaller! ;)
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 15, 2011, 08:40:27 AM
Because I know someone involved personally.  It was not Naps it was Oscaro and his team. 

Even without knowing someone, there are 3 things from the video to go by:
1 -Oscaro buys Geneza in bulk, this is well known
2 - Oscaro is known for his Poland sust amps specials and deals - see the quantity in the video
3 - Naps wouldn't have been raided in a private home or resident townhouse.  If they wanted Naps they would simply go to his facility there.  He doesn't operate out of houses.

Naps has a facility in the same country.  The reason he went on vacation is for no other reason than it is going to be nearly impossible to ship regular packs out of that country for a while now with all the heat.

Yep, I completely agree with you here. I said on another board it looked like O when this first happened. Lots of guys on AB were saying O. Thanks for the solid information. I read an article that said they were counterfeiters counterfeiting a major European UGL. Do you know anything about this?
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: QuakerOats on December 15, 2011, 08:43:19 AM
isnt Jelfa out of Poland?
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: no one on December 15, 2011, 10:34:58 AM
This might be the first time I ask a somewhat intelligent question on here but- What, if anything, does this mean for other "suppliers/providers" Overseas?

it's a drop in the bucket. now if it were a Chinese powder supplier that's a different story.

this bust is like trying to stop the ocean from reaching the shore of the western US from Washington to california using a 16ft 2'x4'

Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: LurkerNoMore on December 16, 2011, 09:20:29 AM
Yep, I completely agree with you here. I said on another board it looked like O when this first happened. Lots of guys on AB were saying O. Thanks for the solid information. I read an article that said they were counterfeiters counterfeiting a major European UGL. Do you know anything about this?

Naps was the only one that was directly supplying them with Geneza.  Every other brand they had was an inhouse operation that had counterfeit labels on it.  Real gear inside, just fake labels of another lab.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 18, 2011, 03:26:15 PM
it's a drop in the bucket. now if it were a Chinese powder supplier that's a different story.

this bust is like trying to stop the ocean from reaching the shore of the western US from Washington to california using a 16ft 2'x4'



This is so true, it will never be stopped. Kind of sad they even waste their time and money on steroids, when they could be busting crack, meth, and heroin dealers.

Naps was the only one that was directly supplying them with Geneza.  Every other brand they had was an inhouse operation that had counterfeit labels on it.  Real gear inside, just fake labels of another lab.

Any idea what lab they were counterfeiting?
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: makaveli25 on December 18, 2011, 03:35:22 PM
This is so true, it will never be stopped. Kind of sad they even waste their time and money on steroids, when they could be busting crack, meth, and heroin dealers.

Any idea what lab they were counterfeiting?

I wish they would legalize steroids already. I would say the majority of users are educated productive members of society. It's bullshit!
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 18, 2011, 03:40:52 PM
Really it's a victimless crime. How many steroid users do you see robbing and murdering for a fix? None!
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: QuakerOats on December 18, 2011, 03:46:27 PM
Really it's a victimless crime. How many steroid users do you see robbing and murdering for a fix? None!
Joe Biden the Vice President of the United States admitted openly to being bullied and beaten out for spots on sports teams for guys who juiced, what do you think these virginal nerds are going to do once they get into office? they are going to go after all the big bad juiced bullies who got all the hot girls, beat them up, made fun of them, put their heads in the toilet and lived the good life while they cried their skinny zit face bodies to sleep at night.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: makaveli25 on December 18, 2011, 03:48:50 PM
Joe Biden the Vice President of the United States admitted openly to being bullied and beaten out for spots on sports teams for guys who juiced, what do you think these virginal nerds are going to do once they get into office? they are going to go after all the big bad juiced bullies who got all the hot girls, beat them up, made fun of them, put their heads in the toilet and lived the good life while they cried their skinny zit face bodies to sleep at night.

 ;D
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: QuakerOats on December 18, 2011, 03:54:53 PM
;D
its no different than the 118 pound high school senior who hid in his basement day after day smoking weed out of fear that the 250 pound football players were going to hang him by his underwear on the flagpole so he dropped out, got a GED, went to the police academy and now patrols the street with a VENGEANCE, threatening to beat up or mace anyone who disagrees with him and pulls people over for doing 28 in a 25 MPH zone, i've always said, if youre against gear you fall into three categories, 1) youre too poor to afford it, 2) youre too chickenshit to use it or 3) you were picked on by someone who used it and now use your "authority" to get back at the people who abused you.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: Kentucky_cowboy on December 18, 2011, 04:05:25 PM
Naps was the only one that was directly supplying them with Geneza.  Every other brand they had was an inhouse operation that had counterfeit labels on it.  Real gear inside, just fake labels of another lab.

do you know if their omnadrens were also counterfeit it was obvious their organon amps were and their pink thais
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: LATS on December 18, 2011, 04:09:41 PM
 IT WAS NOT OSCARO...
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: Radical Plato on December 18, 2011, 05:02:53 PM
The Fruitarians of the world are not worried - let me know if apples become hard to get - then I will worry
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: makaveli25 on December 18, 2011, 05:05:02 PM
IT WAS NOT OSCARO...

Lets hope not!
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 18, 2011, 05:27:33 PM
its no different than the 118 pound high school senior who hid in his basement day after day smoking weed out of fear that the 250 pound football players were going to hang him by his underwear on the flagpole so he dropped out, got a GED, went to the police academy and now patrols the street with a VENGEANCE, threatening to beat up or mace anyone who disagrees with him and pulls people over for doing 28 in a 25 MPH zone, i've always said, if youre against gear you fall into three categories, 1) youre too poor to afford it, 2) youre too chickenshit to use it or 3) you were picked on by someone who used it and now use your "authority" to get back at the people who abused you.

Beautifully spoken,thank you for this:)

IT WAS NOT OSCARO...

Speak on this, how do you know.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: Arnold jr on December 18, 2011, 05:47:12 PM
Really it's a victimless crime. How many steroid users do you see robbing and murdering for a fix? None!

It's been proven time and time again, and was even argued during the original steroid hearings that led to the 1990 Act. The majority of those who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance are otherwise law abiding citizens. Of those who supplement, almost 100% have graduated high school and I can't remember the exact number but more than half have at least some college education. The stats about employment are also very telling.

The war on steroids cannot be won because those fighting it approach it like they do recreational drugs, but you won't find steroid users behaving like rec drug users, and you won't find too many suppliers behaving like rec suppliers.

Another interesting stat, in the U.S., according to government statistics, there are over 6-million American adults who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance enhancement. This was the U.S. gov. estimate around 2005-2006 but market activity estimates that it's closer to two or even three times that amount. That means there's a possible 12-18-million adults in the U.S. supplementing and if the majority were hardened criminals I'm pretty sure we would have noticed by now.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: LATS on December 18, 2011, 09:34:09 PM
newdawn, the only thing i can tell ya is that it is not O..  been in contact with him lately.. wish i could say more..
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 19, 2011, 02:22:25 PM
It's been proven time and time again, and was even argued during the original steroid hearings that led to the 1990 Act. The majority of those who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance are otherwise law abiding citizens. Of those who supplement, almost 100% have graduated high school and I can't remember the exact number but more than half have at least some college education. The stats about employment are also very telling.

The war on steroids cannot be won because those fighting it approach it like they do recreational drugs, but you won't find steroid users behaving like rec drug users, and you won't find too many suppliers behaving like rec suppliers.

Another interesting stat, in the U.S., according to government statistics, there are over 6-million American adults who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance enhancement. This was the U.S. gov. estimate around 2005-2006 but market activity estimates that it's closer to two or even three times that amount. That means there's a possible 12-18-million adults in the U.S. supplementing and if the majority were hardened criminals I'm pretty sure we would have noticed by now.

I bet the numbers are much higher now for educated users as well. Very nice post AJ, thank you.

newdawn, the only thing i can tell ya is that it is not O..  been in contact with him lately.. wish i could say more..

The more research I do on this subject the more I am starting to believe this as well. Thank you for your input bro.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: Swede! on December 19, 2011, 02:25:22 PM
1) youre too poor to afford it, 2) youre too chickenshit to use it or 3) you were picked on by someone who used it and now use your "authority" to get back at the people who abused you.

this shit is stupid you have to define "against it" though as in not wanting to use, of "steroids are the biggets problem in the world" if the second then almost all people are number 5. Not anything you mentioned

4) you're not insecure
5) not informed enough (most people fall into this category)

etc
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: Nomad on December 19, 2011, 02:28:35 PM
A lot of AI and PCT shit went up in price, dramatically. So happy I stocked up earlier this Fall.


Also lol at police guys going in dressed in full SWAT gear as if they are expecting all the juicers to go HULK mode on them, lmao.
Just because you use steroids does not mean you're evolving into the Hulk or becoming a terrorist.


Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 19, 2011, 03:33:57 PM
A lot of AI and PCT shit went up in price, dramatically. So happy I stocked up earlier this Fall.


Also lol at police guys going in dressed in full SWAT gear as if they are expecting all the juicers to go HULK mode on them, lmao.
Just because you use steroids does not mean you're evolving into the Hulk or becoming a terrorist.




It's how they act though! They act as if they are taking down a terrorist camp in the mountains of Afghanistan.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: apply85 on December 19, 2011, 03:40:25 PM
they go in full gear no matter what, vice goes around with submachine guns in nyc even to raid a night club or a poker room
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 19, 2011, 03:45:33 PM
they go in full gear no matter what, vice goes around with submachine guns in nyc even to raid a night club or a poker room

Yeah I understand that, I just think it's funny that they are arresting guys in short shorts and tank tops like their killing terrorists.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: apply85 on December 19, 2011, 04:20:52 PM
yeah it is overkill
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: Nomad on December 21, 2011, 01:31:08 AM
It's been proven time and time again, and was even argued during the original steroid hearings that led to the 1990 Act. The majority of those who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance are otherwise law abiding citizens. Of those who supplement, almost 100% have graduated high school and I can't remember the exact number but more than half have at least some college education. The stats about employment are also very telling.

The war on steroids cannot be won because those fighting it approach it like they do recreational drugs, but you won't find steroid users behaving like rec drug users, and you won't find too many suppliers behaving like rec suppliers.

Another interesting stat, in the U.S., according to government statistics, there are over 6-million American adults who supplement with anabolic steroids for the purpose of performance enhancement. This was the U.S. gov. estimate around 2005-2006 but market activity estimates that it's closer to two or even three times that amount. That means there's a possible 12-18-million adults in the U.S. supplementing and if the majority were hardened criminals I'm pretty sure we would have noticed by now.

Its still either young males or successful white collar males who want to get that physique they always wanted. Just browse anabolicminds or other ph or juice forums. Its either young guys or guys past 30 who want to get really fucking jacked,
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: Flexbirdsall on December 21, 2011, 05:49:37 AM
It wasnt oscaro he posted up else where saying he was good but laying low checking email once a week
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: _bruce_ on December 21, 2011, 10:20:33 AM
Joe Biden the Vice President of the United States admitted openly to being bullied and beaten out for spots on sports teams for guys who juiced, what do you think these virginal nerds are going to do once they get into office? they are going to go after all the big bad juiced bullies who got all the hot girls, beat them up, made fun of them, put their heads in the toilet and lived the good life while they cried their skinny zit face bodies to sleep at night.

Spot on  8)
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: NewDawn on December 22, 2011, 04:27:29 PM
It wasnt oscaro he posted up else where saying he was good but laying low checking email once a week

Do you know how many times I have heard busted sources claiming they aren't busted? Be careful man, it might not be him posting. You never know. I hope he's not busted, but you never know. I remember when Gymace was taken down on SSB, JTP815's girlfriend was o the board claiming he was fine and there were no problems.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: whitewidow on December 22, 2011, 05:13:24 PM
I think O was selling fake omnas. well maybe some of them were real  ut think about it O has been selling omnas for years in huge amounts . How could you possibly get those amounts unless it is counterfeit.
Title: Re: Steroids Bust in Poland Disrupts European Black Market
Post by: Flexbirdsall on January 10, 2012, 11:42:52 AM
Do you know how many times I have heard busted sources claiming they aren't busted? Be careful man, it might not be him posting. You never know. I hope he's not busted, but you never know. I remember when Gymace was taken down on SSB, JTP815's girlfriend was o the board claiming he was fine and there were no problems.



Very very true thanks for the heads up