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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/385979/feds-obama-broke-law-bergdahl-swap-joel-gehrke
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President Obama violated a “clear and unambiguous” law when he released five Guantanamo Bay detainees in exchange for Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, the Government Accountability Office reported Thursday.
“[The Department of Defense] violated section 8111 because it did not notify the relevant congressional committees at least 30 days in advance of the transfer,” the GAO report said. “In addition, because DOD used appropriated funds to carry out the transfer when no money was available for that purpose, DOD violated the Antideficiency Act. The Antideficiency Act prohibits federal agencies from incurring obligations exceeding an amount available in an appropriation.”
The GAO rejected the idea that the action was legal and sidestepped the Obama team’s suggestion that the law is unconstitutional.
“It is not our role or our practice to determine the constitutionality of duly enacted statutes,” the report says. “In our view, where legislation has been passed by Congress and signed by the President, thereby satisfying the bicameralism and presentment requirements in the Constitution, that legislation is entitled to a heavy presumption in favor of constitutionality.”
F Obama
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Are you aware that the report you are referring to does not have the statement that "President Obama violated a “clear and unambiguous” law when he released five Guantanamo Bay detainees in exchange for Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, the Government Accountability Office reported Thursday."
The report doesn't mention Obama at all. It mentions the DOD.
I wonder why the National Review chose to name Obama in their headline and not the DOD as referenced in the report
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Yeah 33!
Didn't you know that it's not Obama's fault when he approves the operation and shit goes wrong?
When he approves and it goes right, like whacking Osama, then it's totally to his credit.
How could you not know this?
How dare you hold Obama accountable for the DoD. It's not like he's Commander in...oh wait, lol.
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Also, in b4 240 starts crying nonsense about impeachment.
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lol ;D
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Yeah 33!
Didn't you know that it's not Obama's fault when he approves the operation and shit goes wrong?
When he approves and it goes right, like whacking Osama, then it's totally to his credit.
How could you not know this?
How dare you hold Obama accountable for the DoD. It's not like he's Commander in...oh wait, lol.
I never Obama was not also culpable but the report says DOD. That is the fact of the matter.
It certainly appears that the administration had to sign off on it and their attorney's likely told them it was legal. But fuck, let's just ignore all of that and let's just pretend that the entire thing was Obama's idea, he personally negotiated it, etc..
That's how we do it here in the GB.com right wing echo chamber
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I never Obama was not also culpable but the report says DOD. That is the fact of the matter.
It certainly appears that the administration had to sign off on it and their attorney's likely told them it was legal. But fuck, let's just ignore all of that and let's just pretend that the entire thing was Obama's idea, he personally negotiated it, etc..
That's how we do it here in the GB.com right wing echo chamber
Yeah, the report does say DoD!
OMG...the entire DoD must be at fault. Fucking engineers that built the equipment the special forces used, computer programmers, goddamn janitors.
Yep, we should list every fucking person in DoD
Let's not focus on leadership.
Good job dumbfuck, more of your stellar liberal reasoning. ::)
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Beat me to it. Apparently all government agencies just run amok under Obama, and he has know idea what those fuckers are doing.
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Worship your master libs.
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Beat me to it. Apparently all government agencies just run amok under Obama, and he has know idea what those fuckers are doing.
Nope, remember the rules. When they get it right, it's all Obama.
Only when shit goes wrong is it large bureaucracy.
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Yeah, the report does say DoD!
OMG...the entire DoD must be at fault. Fucking engineers that built the equipment the special forces used, computer programmers, goddamn janitors.
Yep, we should list every fucking person in DoD
Let's not focus on leadership.
Good job dumbfuck, more of your stellar liberal reasoning. ::)
does the report say Obama broke the law
yes or no ?
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Nope, remember the rules. When they get it right, it's all Obama.
Only when shit goes wrong is it large bureaucracy.
great job with the reading comprehension Skippy
I never Obama was not also culpable but the report says DOD. That is the fact of the matter.
It certainly appears that the administration had to sign off on it and their attorney's likely told them it was legal. But fuck, let's just ignore all of that and let's just pretend that the entire thing was Obama's idea, he personally negotiated it, etc..
That's how we do it here in the GB.com right wing echo chamber
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does the report say Obama broke the law
yes or no ?
Yep, it doesn't say Obama and says DoD.
We've established that.
Like I said, great logic dumbfuck.
Keep it up, you must make liberals so proud, lol.
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Yep, it doesn't say Obama and says DoD.
We've established that.
Like I said, great logic dumbfuck.
Keep it up, you must make liberals so proud, lol.
it's not logic dipshit
it's merely a statement of fact
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it's not logic dipshit
it's merely a statement of fact
Yep, it doesn't say Obama and says DoD.
We've established that.
Like I said, great logic dumbfuck.
Keep it up, you must make liberals so proud, lol.
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If it weren't for the news media, Obama would have no clue as to what's going on in his administration. From his own mouth:
Beat me to it. Apparently all government agencies just run amok under Obama, and he has know idea what those fuckers are doing.
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Worship your master libs.
He should actually be in Muslim garb.
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Yep, it doesn't say Obama and says DoD.
We've established that.
Like I said, great logic dumbfuck.
Keep it up, you must make liberals so proud, lol.
I never Obama was not also culpable but the report says DOD. That is the fact of the matter.
It certainly appears that the administration had to sign off on it and their attorney's likely told them it was legal. But fuck, let's just ignore all of that and let's just pretend that the entire thing was Obama's idea, he personally negotiated it, etc..
That's how we do it here in the GB.com right wing echo chamber
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Obama took credit for it and said he would do it again remember?
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Obama took credit for it and said he would do it again remember?
Strawboy selectively forgot that little tid bit.
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Strawboy selectively forgot that little tid bit.
no he didn't - jhe is just spinning for his god king
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President Obama violated a “clear and unambiguous” law when he released five Guantanamo Bay detainees in exchange for Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, the Government Accountability Office reported Thursday.
“[The Department of Defense] violated section 8111 because it did not notify the relevant congressional committees at least 30 days in advance of the transfer,” the GAO report said. “In addition, because DOD used appropriated funds to carry out the transfer when no money was available for that purpose, DOD violated the Antideficiency Act. The Antideficiency Act prohibits federal agencies from incurring obligations exceeding an amount available in an appropriation.”
The GAO rejected the idea that the action was legal and sidestepped the Obama team’s suggestion that the law is unconstitutional.
“It is not our role or our practice to determine the constitutionality of duly enacted statutes,” the report says. “In our view, where legislation has been passed by Congress and signed by the President, thereby satisfying the bicameralism and presentment requirements in the Constitution, that legislation is entitled to a heavy presumption in favor of constitutionality.”
F Obama
Obama did the right thing. I support him fully on getting Bowe back.....we leave no one behind
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Obama did the right thing. I support him fully on getting Bowe back.....we leave no one behind
Being left behind and walking off post are 2 different things there airsoft boy
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Also, in b4 240 starts crying nonsense about impeachment.
;D
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Obama did the right thing. I support him fully on getting Bowe back.....we leave no one behind
Of course you support him. You don't know why, but you do. Oh wait, he's black
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Being left behind and walking off post are 2 different things there airsoft boy
Subtle but important difference.
Deserters are different tjan combat troops taken prisoner or trapped behind enemy lines.
Now, I dont know the details and im not really taking a side with this guy, but if he did go UA and was taken prisoner, I would have automatically put him at the bottom of the list for negotiating return.
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Obama's cult of worshipping fools agree w anything he does - ALL THE TIME
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Also, in b4 240 starts crying nonsense about impeachment.
2/3 of republicans don't consider it to be nonsense.
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WTF - It looks like now Fox News has to be considered part of the liberal media
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/22/pentagon-violated-law-with-bergdahl-prisoner-swap-government-watchdog-says/?intcmp=latestnews
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WTF - It looks like now Fox News has to be considered part of the liberal media
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/22/pentagon-violated-law-with-bergdahl-prisoner-swap-government-watchdog-says/?intcmp=latestnews
Of course they are going to defend themselves. If they admit to breaking the law to help faggetbama and his lawless corrupt junta - what would that say?
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Of course they are going to defend themselves. If they admit to breaking the law to help faggetbama and his lawless corrupt junta - what would that say?
Fox News broke the law?
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WTF - It looks like now Fox News has to be considered part of the liberal media
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/08/22/pentagon-violated-law-with-bergdahl-prisoner-swap-government-watchdog-says/?intcmp=latestnews
FOX is part of the entertainment industry. just like all the others. Nothing wrong with it.
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FOX is part of the entertainment industry. just like all the others. Nothing wrong with it.
So they accurately reported the result of the GAO findings as "entertainment"
that makes about as much sense as your impeachment nonsense
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So they accurately reported the result of the GAO findings as "entertainment"
that makes about as much sense as your impeachment nonsense
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Jon Stewart reports on actual events. Using actual facts. Then he interjects his own entertaining mix of emotion, humor, sarcasm or wit.
Remove the humor and wit, you have exactly what cable news - such as fox and msnbc - deliver. They tell you the news, then they apply their own emotion and analysis.
Typical news story:
"Today, Obama visited Kenya" = the fact part of it.
"At home, america continues to burn under the rule of our evil dictator" = the analysis
"Hey, I guess he was feeling homesick for keyna" = their attempt at humor.
So yes, they would report GAO findings. Then they'd blame obama for it. Then they would try to say something funny that usually would flop.
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Jon Stewart reports on actual events. Using actual facts. Then he interjects his own entertaining mix of emotion, humor, sarcasm or wit.
Remove the humor and wit, you have exactly what cable news - such as fox and msnbc - deliver. They tell you the news, then they apply their own emotion and analysis.
Typical news story:
"Today, Obama visited Kenya" = the fact part of it.
"At home, america continues to burn under the rule of our evil dictator" = the analysis
"Hey, I guess he was feeling homesick for keyna" = their attempt at humor.
So yes, they would report GAO findings. Then they'd blame obama for it. Then they would try to say something funny that usually would flop.
Headline on Fox News
Pentagon broke law with Bergdahl prisoner swap, government watchdog says
and the associated video on Fox News never mentions Obama when talking about the GAO findings
WTF - we have to assume they are now part of the liberal media in bed with Obama
What other explanation could there be?
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2/3 of republicans don't consider it to be nonsense.
Like clockwork.
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Like clockwork.
i dont understand the hatred for it. Obama has done things that many consider to be impeachable.
I really don't think he'll see all sorts of sympathy from swing voters once we see 200 dead bodies from F&F. Everyone keeps saying "But clinton was more popular...." Well, the economy was good, and he lied about a BJ lol. WAY different than sending pallets of guns over the border. Interview the wives of the brave border agents that died because of obama's guns. Tell me how many anti-gun soccer moms vote dem in 2014 midterms.
I hate the "we'll win more seats" argument. I don't buy it.
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O-loser needs to be tried in court for his crimes and treason.
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O-loser needs to be tried in court for his crimes and treason.
you should find a lawyer or maybe even a smart 8th grader to explain the definition of treason to you
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What's wrong with you guys?
Can't you see Fox News is appropriately blaming a building for being at fault?
Why would any of you even mention the leadership?
You must be crazy Obama haters, lol...nothing else makes sense.
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What's wrong with you guys?
Can't you see Fox News is appropriately blaming a building for being at fault?
Why would any of you even mention the leadership?
You must be crazy Obama haters, lol...nothing else makes sense.
I agree, it is very strange that they would accurately report the details of the report
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Like clockwork.
lol :D
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O-loser needs to be tried in court for his crimes and treason.
And what of your crimes and treason towards common sense?
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Bergdahl expected to plead guilty, avoid trial
AP ^ | 10/6/17 | Josh Lederman & Lolita Baldor
Posted on 10/6/2017, 11:17:46 AM by markomalley
Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was held captive by the Taliban for half a decade after abandoning his Afghanistan post, is expected to plead guilty to desertion and misbehavior before the enemy, two individuals with knowledge of the case said.
Bergdahl’s decision to plead guilty rather than face trial marks another twist in an eight-year drama that caused the nation to wrestle with difficult questions of loyalty, negotiating with hostage takers and America’s commitment not to leave its troops behind. President Donald Trump has called Bergdahl a “no-good traitor” who “should have been executed.”
The decision by the 31-year-old Idaho native leaves open whether he will return to captivity for years — this time in a U.S. prison — or receive a lesser sentence that reflects the time the Taliban held him under brutal conditions. He says he had been caged, kept in darkness, beaten and chained to a bed.
Bergdahl could face up to five years on the desertion charge and a life sentence for misbehavior.
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Obama did the right thing. I support him fully on getting Bowe back.....we leave no one behind
People died to get this POS back. And we gave up 5 of the worst of the worst. No - O-FAG did not do the right thing.
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People died to get this POS back. And we gave up 5 of the worst of the worst. No - O-FAG did not do the right thing.
I still support getting Bowe back because there was no evidence at the time that he went AWOL...with that being said, we don't leave a man behind EVER!!! And those 5 that we gave up were of no threat...they were actually politicians. We still have and/or have killed the worst.
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I still support getting Bowe back because there was no evidence at the time that he went AWOL...with that being said, we don't leave a man behind EVER!!! And those 5 that we gave up were of no threat...they were actually politicians. We still have and/or have killed the worst.
Yes there was evidence. All of his fellow soldiers. This is another one of the zillions of other horrible decisions by Obama. What a disgrace to those who died trying to get this human shit stain back.
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Yes there was evidence. All of his fellow soldiers. This is another one of the zillions of other horrible decisions by Obama. What a disgrace to those who died trying to get this human shit stain back.
A few years ago, you shitted on Obama for not gettting him back....should I find the thread???? Can't have it both ways.....and in any event, we don't leave a man behind
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A few years ago, you shitted on Obama for not gettting him back....should I find the thread???? Can't have it both ways.....and in any event, we don't leave a man behind
Yes - bring that thread up.
thank you. :D
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Yes - bring that thread up.
thank you. :D
Ok....in fact you already bumped it.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=538364.0