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Right now - Yes.   The only reservation I have is the newspaper announcement.       

have people come fwd with an actual hard copy of the paper?  or is it just some microfiche? Or something really cool made with publisher? 

OR did Barry Oreto just steal this barrack guy's name? 

What's the deal?  I'm trying to talk my parents into voting bachmann, but I need something solid here :)

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have people come fwd with an actual hard copy of the paper?  or is it just some microfiche? Or something really cool made with publisher? 

OR did Barry Oreto just steal this barrack guy's name? 

What's the deal?  I'm trying to talk my parents into voting bachmann, but I need something solid here :)

Micofiche only so far.   

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Micofiche only so far.   

why do you think the repubs - even the tea party ones who agree with the birthers - are scared to enact legislation requiring a person to provide long-form in order to run for president?

I mean, if one simple bill like that could cripple his 2012 chances entirely - why are they dicking around with symbolic bills?

And I doubt it's because "the lamestream media will mock them".  That's weak.  They got elected bashing the mainstream media - and suddenly they bow to them?  Nope.




Why won't the far-right repubs enact legislation on this?

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You all need to give Obama a break already!

Obama was born in Egypt.[1]  He arrived at the shores of Hawaii as a baby, inside a floating papyrus basket coated with tar and pitch.[2]  Obama became the leader of the most powerful Western nation so that he can tell the West "White Devil, let my people go."  So in the end, Obama will leave the West with his people, the Muslims, and they will all return to the Middle East and Africa.[3]


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1st... 333, how the fuck do you get past the fact that his birth in Hawaii was announced in a Hawaiian newspaper for that time that anybody can do down and look up at the library? 

2nd... His birth certificate is confirmed valid by a Governor of the state...

3rd... WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HAS BEEN REQUIRED TO SHOW MORE THAN THE FUCKING GODDAMNED FUCKING GODDAMNED FUCKING FACT THAT HE WAS FUCKING BORN IN AMERICA?

END THIS TOPIC JACKASSES.

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They only certified the COLB. 

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I've never banned a topic from being talked about here, but it's getting dang close with this one.  This is fucking retarded and I fucking hate Obama so it's not like I'm covering for him.

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You know what, this is CT pure and simple....  You guys are proposing that there is some concerted effort to withhold info on Obama's birth cirt that would require several people to be involved... That's a major conspiracy.

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LOL!

Even Fox news is in on it, hugo!

all the states, all the dems AND republicans.

Luckily, there was one brave getbigger named 333386 who was able to overcome so many questions, and take the word of an aging kenyan grandmother, over that of our entire US govt.


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WHY THE FUCK WAS THIS MOVED TO CT?   THIS IS NOT A CT - ITS AN ISSUE THE GOV OF HAWAII PUT HIMSELF IN T.   

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LOL!

Even Fox news is in on it, hugo!

all the states, all the dems AND republicans.

Luckily, there was one brave getbigger named 333386 who was able to overcome so many questions, and take the word of an aging kenyan grandmother, over that of our entire US govt.



240 - eve you are a birther.   why is that? 

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LOL!

Even Fox news is in on it, hugo!

all the states, all the dems AND republicans.

Luckily, there was one brave getbigger named 333386 who was able to overcome so many questions, and take the word of an aging kenyan grandmother, over that of our entire US govt.


this shit just amazes me...  I would like 3333 to answer my last question: when was the last time a presidential candidate was required to show more than the fact that he was born here?  That's all that's required by the constitution, then by fucking all gods it's good enough for me...  

What these guys are trying to find is some stupid line on the long form that shows his father wrote his religion down as mulsim or some shit.  So they can use it in the election.

I don't want to see Obama make a second term.  I want him to lose.  But I will have nothing to do with gay ass retards that push this point.  SIMPLY PUT, THEY ARE ACTING AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF THE CONSTITUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PS. 240, did you see my thread about Bill Maher, kittens and glocks, I thought you might get a laugh out of it ;D

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Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info (Abercrombie silenced by Barry)
ap ^ | 1/22/2011 | MARK NIESSE




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HONOLULU – A privacy law that shields birth certificates has prompted Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie to abandon efforts to dispel claims that President Barack Obama was born outside Hawaii, his office says.

State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.




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Yes it does matter.    Its a requirement directly in the US Const.   

DUDE!!!!..Don't u think the FBI and all these other agencies who investigate and vet EVERYONE who runs for president haven' t checked into Obama's background????..or are they in on the conspiracy as well????

YOU ARE CERTIFIABLY NUTS!!!!!

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worse than the moon landing hoax believers....  3333, BWHAHAHAHahahahahahahaha ha

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DUDE!!!!..Don't u think the FBI and all these other agencies who investigate and vet EVERYONE who runs for president haven' t checked into Obama's background????..or are they in on the conspiracy as well????

YOU ARE CERTIFIABLY NUTS!!!!!

Why?  Can you tell me where the Long form BC is like everyone else in that state has?  

And why has he spent over $1 million dollars keeping his records silent?    

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worse than the moon landing hoax believers....  3333, BWHAHAHAHahahahahahahaha ha

HUGO - CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

________________________ _____________________

Obama's records that are not released.
1. Occidental College records -- Not released
2. Columbia College records -- Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper -- 'not available'
4. Harvard College records -- Not released
5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released
6. Medical records -- Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- 'not available'
8. Law practice client list -- Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate - - Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published -- None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
13. Your Record of baptism-- Not released or 'not available'
14. Your Illinois State Senate records--'not available'
 

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Why?  Can you tell me where the Long form BC is like everyone else in that state has?  

And why has he spent over $1 million dollars keeping his records silent?    
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what difference does it really make to u???...if they found it you would just say it was fake or forged anyway...your mind just cannot accept that a black man is president, but you can't say that outright so you try to delegitimize him another way under the guise of being a patriot standing up for the constitution....

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BORN IN THE USA?


http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SstYs_6unl0J:www.wnd.com/?pageId=105347%20obama%20long%20form%20birth%20certificate&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates
Real documents include name of doctor, hospital

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Posted: July 28, 2009
9:35 pm Eastern


By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily



Eleanor Nordyke displays photostats of her twin daughters' birth certificates (Courtesy Honolulu Advertiser)
Images of two 1961 Hawaii birth certificates similar to the one President Obama purportedly has on file have now been unveiled.

The Honolulu Advertiser published photostats of the original long-form birth certificates of twin daughters born to Eleanor Nordyke at Kapi'olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital Aug. 5, 1961, one day after Obama was supposedly born at the same facility.

The Nordykes' certificates include information missing from the short-form document for Obama published online, including the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, name and address of the parents, the race of the parents and the race of the baby.

As WND reported yesterday, Hawaii's director of health responded to the growing controversy over the White House's refusal to release Obama's original long-form birth certificate by issuing a statement about the document in apparent contravention of Hawaiian law.

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Dr. Chiyome Fukino declared she has seen the "original birth records" that verify Obama was born in Hawaii and is a "natural-born American citizen," the Honolulu Advertiser reported.

Join in WND's Fedex campaign and tell Obama you don't buy his state-run media coverup!

But in two separate telephone interviews with WND, Janice Okubo, the health department's public information officer, told WND that Hawaii law prohibited her from commenting on the birth records of any specific person.

WND also reported the Hawaii Department of Heath affirmed that no paper birth certificate records were destroyed when the department moved to electronic record-keeping in 2001.


Photostat of Susan Nordyke's 1961 Hawaii birth certificate (Courtesy Honolulu Advertiser)

The statement to WND by Janice Okubo, public information officer for state's health department, contradicted CNN U.S. President Jon Klein, who ordered host Lou Dobbs to quit discussing Obama's birth certificate on the air. Klein insisted the issue was "dead" because Obama's original long-form birth certificate had been destroyed by the Hawaii DOH in the conversion to electronic files.

A close examination of the birth certificates issued by Kapi'olani to the Nordyke twins shows the registration number precedes the number given Obama, even though the future president was born a day earlier.

Susan Nordyke was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.

Gretchen Nordyke followed at 2:17 p.m. and was given No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.

According to a version of Obama's purported short-form certificate available from FactCheck.org, Obama was given a higher registration number than the Nordyke twins. The online image indicates the number is No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.

The middle figure in Obama's purported registration also is different than the Nordykes'. Obama's is 1961, indicating the year, while the Nordykes' is merely 61.

One explanation for the out-of-order serial numbers might be that several serialized stacks of birth certificates were made available at different hospitals.

Another possibility is that Obama's number is not a genuine registration number created in 1961 but was issued when the short-form document was generated during the 2008 presidential campaign.

Eleanor Nordyke told WND she thinks her twins got lower numbers because she went into the hospital Aug. 4, 1961, and was in labor for 20 hours before she delivered. She speculates that Ann Dunham came in after her and was given a later number, even though Dunham's baby was born earlier. Nordyke's twins were not born until the afternoon of the next day.

WND was unable to receive a response from Hawaii officials regarding the state's procedure for issuing registration numbers.

Meanwhile, an image of an apparently fraudulent Kenyan certificate of birth circulated on the Web today from an unknown source. It alleged Obama was born in Mombasa. But a contributor at FreeRepublic.com debunked it, declaring "Busted!"

He pointed out that the background text, in Dutch, explained, in a rough translation, "This is not a government document. This is political commentary."

It's not just Obama's original birth certificate at issue. WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, his Punahou school records, his Occidental College records, his Columbia University records, his Columbia thesis, his Harvard Law School records, his Harvard Law Review articles, his scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, his passport, his medical records, his files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

Note: Members of the news media wishing to interview Jerome Corsi, Joseph Farah, Joe Kovacs, Chelsea Schilling, Les Kinsolving or Bob Unruh on this issue, please contact WND.

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Why?  Can you tell me where the Long form BC is like everyone else in that state has?  

And why has he spent over $1 million dollars keeping his records silent?    
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what difference does it really make to u???...if they found it you would just say it was fake or forged anyway...your mind just cannot accept that a black man is president, but you can't say that outright so you try to delegitimize him another way under the guise of being a patriot standing up for the constitution....


Ha haha - - I would prefer Mike Tomlin, Willie Randolph, George Jefferson, Fred Sanford, or even Beetlejuice as POTUS over Bama any day.   

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HUGO - CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS?
333, I fucking asked you first and didn't get an answer from you...  Why the fuck should I answer your questions when you ignore mine?  Fucking courtesy dude... Don't go demanding questions be answered when you are unwilling to answer yourself.  Back up a few posts and answer mine and I will answer yours.

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333, I fucking asked you first and didn't get an answer from you...  Why the fuck should I answer your questions when you ignore mine?  Fucking courtesy dude... Don't go demanding questions be answered when you are unwilling to answer yourself.  Back up a few posts and answer mine and I will answer yours.


I said I'm a 51% birther - not a 99% birther.   The article in the paper is my only hestitation on the CT, otherwise, there are some crazythings surrounding this issue which you really should not just dismiss.   

 

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Corsi said he has gone to all the hospitals in Hawaii and not one has a damn thing.   



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I said I'm a 51% birther - not a 99% birther.   The article in the paper is my only hestitation on the CT, otherwise, there are some crazythings surrounding this issue which you really should not just dismiss.   

 
bullshit, that doesn't remotely answer my questions.  Please answer these questions and I will address yours:

1st... 333, how the fuck do you get past the fact that his birth in Hawaii was announced in a Hawaiian newspaper for that time that anybody can do down and look up at the library? 

2nd... His birth certificate is confirmed valid by a Governor of the state...

3rd... WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HAS BEEN REQUIRED TO SHOW MORE THAN THE FUCKING GODDAMNED FUCKING GODDAMNED FUCKING FACT THAT HE WAS FUCKING BORN IN AMERICA?

END THIS TOPIC JACKASSES.

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bullshit, that doesn't remotely answer my questions.  Please answer these questions and I will address yours:


1.   I agree that the article in the paper tends to undermine the CT.   

2.   BULLSHIT.   They certified a COLB with is complete nonsense.   They did not certify the Long Form BC.    posted what  real BC looks like from someone born the same day as Barry.   Where is his like this?   

3.   Because we have never had a person elected under such dubious circumstances.   

BTW  I personally think Obama was hatched anyway.