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Title: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Lothario Gunns on January 07, 2014, 10:13:40 AM
::) You are aparently not allowed to have an opinion on homos in The U.S. or The U.K.

Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
by Associated Press | January 7, 2014


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Evander Holyfield enters the Celebrity Big Brother House at Elstree Studios on January 3, 2014 in Borehamwood, England. (Photo by Stuart C. Wilson/Getty Images)


LONDON (AP) — Former world heavyweight boxing champion Evander Holyfield has been reprimanded by the bosses of a British reality TV show for saying being gay “ain’t normal.”

Holyfield compared being homosexual to being born with a deformed leg, saying “you go to a doctor and get it fixed back right.” He also said it was “a choice” to be gay.

The 50-year-old American made the comments during a conversation with a fellow contestant on Celebrity Big Brother in an episode that was aired Sunday in Britain.

Program officials told Holyfield these “aren’t the views that are held by a large section of society, and expressing these views will be extremely offensive to many people.”

Holyfield was warned to “consider very carefully the effects expressing such views may have.”
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: chaos on January 07, 2014, 10:21:59 AM
OMG!!!!! Some people will disagree with his opinion!!!!!
 ::)
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 10:22:12 AM
Nobody can prove whether it is a choice or not. So why are his comments so vilified?
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: bradistani on January 07, 2014, 10:27:17 AM
last year \a woman from the same shit programme was reprimanded for saying she wasn't attracted to black men  ;D welcome to brainwashed britain  ::)


gotta say that my heart sank when i saw that holyfield was gonna be on that fucking horrendous show  :(
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: titusisback on January 07, 2014, 10:48:42 AM
Nobody can prove whether it is a choice or not. So why are his comments so vilified?
What did you personally choose to be straight?
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 11:45:40 AM
What did you personally choose to be straight?

Yes.

It's worked out quite nicely.

I am happy with my decision.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: chaos on January 07, 2014, 11:51:54 AM
Yes.

It's worked out quite nicely.

I am happy with my decision.
So our docking session is cancelled ???
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 11:53:58 AM
So our docking session is cancelled ???

Yes my decision is final.

I'll send you your refund.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: titusisback on January 07, 2014, 11:54:28 AM
I am happy with my decision.

Sorry, I mistyped. I meant to type 'when did you choose to be gay'

So basically you were undecided at one point. How far did you pursue your gay interest before the scale tipped towards being straight?
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: chaos on January 07, 2014, 11:56:37 AM
Yes my decision is final.

I'll send you your refund.
Forward it to Pellius, he has some magic kigs for me.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 11:57:08 AM
Sorry, I mistyped. I meant to type 'when did you choose to be gay'

So basically you were undecided at one point. How far did you pursue your gay interest before the scale tipped towards being straight?

Yeah I'd say at age 4 I was still on the fence. My buddies were more fun to play sports with though. But when I was 5...I learned that girls smell better. This was probably the most important aspect influencing my decision at a young age. 20 years later and I never looked back.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: titusisback on January 07, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
Yeah I'd say at age 4 I was still on the fence. My buddies were more fun to play sports with though. But when I was 5...I learned that girls smell better. This was probably the most important aspect influencing my decision at a young age. 20 years later and I never looked back.

Ah, so you were bisexual for a while. Nice..!!
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 12:17:35 PM
Ah, so you were bisexual for a while. Nice..!!

Meh, age 4, it's really more Asexual than anything if you want to get all technical. Only cared about playing T-ball, eating ice cream, you know, the usual.

Was it weird for you growing up as a homosexual?
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: nzmusclemonster on January 07, 2014, 12:19:09 PM
Meh, age 4, it's really more Asexual than anything if you want to get all technical. Only cared about playing T-ball, eating ice cream, you know, the usual.

Was it weird for you growing up as a homosexual?

Outed.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: titusisback on January 07, 2014, 12:20:44 PM
Was it weird for you growing up as a homosexual?

Oh, I was born straight. Considering a homosexual lifestyle wasn't necessary for me, like it was for you.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 12:21:05 PM
Outed.

I liked ice cream more than pussy as a 4 year old.

When Im dieting sometimes I still feel this way.

Guilty!
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 12:21:43 PM
Oh, I was born straight. Considering a homosexual lifestyle wasn't necessary for me, like it was for you.

How can you prove that though  ???
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: B_B_C on January 07, 2014, 12:23:06 PM
How can you prove that though  ???

same way as you ?
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: titusisback on January 07, 2014, 12:24:51 PM
How can you prove that though  ???

That info came from you - you said you were not sure at one point and then you picked a direction.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 12:27:17 PM
That info came from you - you said you were not sure at one point and then you picked a direction.

Yes age 4 was a confusing time admittedly.

When did you decide to be a homosexual though? Did you know right away? Not hating bro, I have 2 dudes I work with that are great people. I love OMR too.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 12:30:34 PM
same way as you ?

I can't prove it though  ???
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Fortress on January 07, 2014, 12:32:05 PM
Nobody can prove whether it is a choice or not.

So you have "chosen" to be sexually attracted to women?

Anyone who thinks true homosexuality is chosen is seriously intellectually impaired. Sure, a woman who was, say, traumatized by a man, might choose to lead a homsexual LIFESTYLE, but as a I say, a true homsexual does not decide anything relating to sexuality. Just as a heterosexual does not decide his or her desire for females or males, respectively.

How can it be 2014 and some are still so clued-out? I mean, holy shit.  
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: titusisback on January 07, 2014, 12:32:08 PM
When did you decide to be a homosexual though?

You clearly have confusion issues with your own sexual orientation - as well as mine. Or maybe you just don't understand what you read.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: titusisback on January 07, 2014, 12:34:01 PM
Chiro, since you feel this is a choice - not something you naturally are - why not choose to be homosexual for a while. Let's say a month?
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 12:35:03 PM
You clearly have confusion issues with your own sexual orientation - as well as mine. Or maybe you just don't understand what you read.

Let's work though things together bro.

So you have "chosen" to be sexually attracted to women?

Anyone who thinks true homosexuality is chosen is seriously intellectually impaired. Sure, a woman who was, say, traumatized by a man, might choose to lead a homsexual LIFESTYLE, but as a I say, a true homsexual does not decide anything relating to sexuality. Just as a heterosexual does not decide his or her desire for females or males, respectively.

How can it be 2014 and some are still so clued-out? I mean, holy shit.  

I'm mostly just trolling bro.  :D

Class is cancelled because it's -40 in the Midwest today so im killing time before i go train. I could care less about this nonsense. But it was fun getting Titus all flabbergasted.

Titus: sorry for rustling your Jimmies bro!
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Chiro, since you feel this is a choice - not something you naturally are - why not choose to be homosexual for a while. Let's say a month?

Could we be "official" then?

How should we tell our families?
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: titusisback on January 07, 2014, 12:42:01 PM
Could we be "official" then?

How should we tell our families?

ask your boyfriends a permission first
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on January 07, 2014, 01:06:56 PM
ask your boyfriends a permission first

Which one? Black eye or creepy smile?
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: titusisback on January 07, 2014, 01:07:50 PM
Which one? Black eye or creepy smile?

Whichever is top
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: warez4gold on January 07, 2014, 03:39:59 PM
who's to say scientists in the future WILL NOT be able to fuck with our brains and reprogram our wiring to make us like the same sex?  yes, it probably can be "fixed", but definitely not in my lifetime.  can it be fixed now?  probably not.  i think the word "fixed" should be replaced with "adjusting what we came into this world with for (insert reason here).

we send humans in space and write about black holes and pretty much know how to time travel into the future without aging super fast.  do you really think that something like this isn't possible?

go fuck yourself.

that being said, being gay on this planet is not easy.  is it wrong?  that's up to you and how you want to perceive this world.  if you want to create a human utopia, then being gay shouldn't be viewed as anything negative, simply different.  but then again, a human utopia is impossible because there would be too many different ideas on how it should be created.  we live on a prison planet and it will forever be fucked.  there is no hope, trust me.

Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: mr.turbo on January 07, 2014, 04:40:30 PM
just a ruggedly handsome fellow expressing his heterosexual opinions.

Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: mr.turbo on January 07, 2014, 04:46:31 PM
(http://nextraterrestrial.com/pdf/real-deal.gif)

looks like he works out
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Quickerblade on January 07, 2014, 05:16:30 PM
This guy destroyed iron mike tyson
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Eric2 on January 07, 2014, 06:21:37 PM
The political correctness police can go f.uck themselves. This shit has gone way overboard, you should be able to say what you think when asked without people getting all upset. Have some balls and speak your mind don't let the weak minority bully free speech from people. You cannot. Suppress what and how people feel and think and you sure as bell can't make people live willfully with others they dislike.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: tbombz on January 07, 2014, 06:25:08 PM
Attraction can be chosen. Sometimes it just happens to you. Other times you make it happen by deciding that you like the idea of being attracted to something, and overtime you fins things to appreciate and eventuallly become attracted.

Nobody is born with a sex drive. It develops over time. Many people choose to be gay or bisexual, others had influences or experiences at a young age that predisoposed them towards appreciating thir own sex, and correspondent ly they didnt have any strong.influences tellung them they shouldnt be.

I know of MANY gays who proudly admit that they chose to be gay.

I basically "chose" to be bisexual. Well, I was sort of molested as a young child and also haf a sister who always dressed me up as a girl and encouraged girl behavior.but, ive definitely chosen not to be anymore. Ita.not instant. Sure sometimes I think oc sucking a cock or fucking some dudes ass, but Its getting less frequent and less powerful with time. Imo its certainly fixable.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Eric2 on January 07, 2014, 06:29:37 PM
Attraction can be chosen. Sometimes it just happens to you. Other times you make it happen by deciding that you like the idea of being attracted to something, and overtime you fins things to appreciate and eventuallly become attracted.

Nobody is born with a sex drive. It develops over time. Many people choose to be gay or bisexual, others had influences or experiences at a young age that predisoposed them towards appreciating thir own sex, and correspondent ly they didnt have any strong.influences tellung them they shouldnt be.

I know of MANY gays who proudly admit that they chose to be gay.

I basically "chose" to be bisexual. Well, I was sort of molested as a young child and also haf a sister who always dressed me up as a girl and encouraged girl behavior.but, ive definitely chosen not to be anymore. Ita.not instant. Sure sometimes I think oc sucking a cock or fucking some dudes ass, but Its getting less frequent and less powerful with time. Imo its certainly fixable.

I just threw up little.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: pellius on January 07, 2014, 06:38:24 PM
I don't think anyone can deny that a person is simply born with certain "preferences". This applies to all things in life. I just happen to love chocolate and slim women. It is incomprehensible to me that I have a friend that hates chocolate and likes hefty, if not down right fat, women. Some guys are sexually attracted to men. Some are attracted to prepubescent children.

The issue is not what your innate propensities are but whether or not you act on them. For a man to be naturally attracted to other men may not be "cured" in the sense that you can just simply flip a switch and turn it off. Whether or not he acts on it is a choice. Just like there are some for religious or spiritual reasons choose to be chaste (not to be confuse with the often misused word "celibate").

This is not to imply that I don't think gay people shouldn't act on their desires. That's a separate issue entirely.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: chaos on January 07, 2014, 06:41:08 PM
Who cares?
STRAIGHT PRIDE WORLDWIDE!!!!!
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 07, 2014, 06:48:26 PM
Well, I was sort of molested as a young child

Many a getbig pop psychologist/psychiatrist surmised as much. Who was the offender? How much do you think this event influenced your subsequent development, sexually and otherwise?
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: tbombz on January 07, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
I was 4 or 5. He was 9 or 10. Older kid at a swim meet.

Idk


Just made me stare at cocks in porn and want.to suck on them

I had a lot of issues growing up that played a role in alll my life decisions so its really tought to say if the incident had any other effects outside of.homosexual desires
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: pellius on January 07, 2014, 07:11:21 PM
Attraction can be chosen. Sometimes it just happens to you. Other times you make it happen by deciding that you like the idea of being attracted to something, and overtime you fins things to appreciate and eventuallly become attracted.

Nobody is born with a sex drive. It develops over time. Many people choose to be gay or bisexual, others had influences or experiences at a young age that predisoposed them towards appreciating thir own sex, and correspondent ly they didnt have any strong.influences tellung them they shouldnt be.

I know of MANY gays who proudly admit that they chose to be gay.

I basically "chose" to be bisexual. Well, I was sort of molested as a young child and also haf a sister who always dressed me up as a girl and encouraged girl behavior.but, ive definitely chosen not to be anymore. Ita.not instant. Sure sometimes I think oc sucking a cock or fucking some dudes ass, but Its getting less frequent and less powerful with time. Imo its certainly fixable.

I missed this post. But this is correct and very insightful. Environmental influences and experience can develop and cultivate a person's taste and preferences. And the more "normal", common and acceptable a certain behavior becomes the more you will see of it. And, again, this applies to all things. And due to various outside influences a person's taste and attraction can change through the years. Just like when I first saw Pumping Iron as a kid. They all pretty much looked the same to me. I couldn't figure out how anyone could tell who was better than the other. Only after years of experience and education was I able to see the differences in the physiques.  

But Tbombz, I don't get this notion that nobody is born with a sex drive. Maybe not at birth but it is latent in normal human beings. And it doesn't really develop over time. It develops when you hit puberty. It's not a learned response. Almost overnight I went from being indifferent to girls to getting constant boners just looking at them.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: mr.turbo on January 07, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
one thing is for certain

holyfield has a huge neck

Tyson measurements   

Weight:  218 lbs
Height:  5' 11.5"
Reach:  71"
Chest (normal):  43"
Chest (expanded):  45"
Biceps:  16"
Forearm:  14"
Waist:  34"
Thigh:  27"
Calf:  19"
Neck:  20.5"
Wrist:  8"
Fist:  13"
Record:  33-3
Knockouts:  24
Weight:  218 lbs


Holyfield's


Weight:  218 lbs
Height:  6' 2.5"
Reach:  77.5"
Chest (normal):  43"
Chest (expanded):  45"
Biceps:  16"
Forearm:  12.5"
Waist:  32"
Thigh:  22"
Calf:  13"
Neck:  19.5"
Wrist:  7.5"
Fist:  12.5"


this was right before their first fight.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 07, 2014, 07:18:44 PM
He should have told that brit (whilst sitting on that throne) that what Evander said was true, and thinking otherwise would be prepostrous and ignorant.
Those thinking otherwise are prolly gaay as well.

That's what he should've said.

Would love to see the reaction.

"What's that? Can't handle some truth on british television? You slackjawed daffodils!"


Oh and he should've added that he'd slap Piers Morgan as a bonus.


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5a545878f3603061be3df1a818ce2097/tumblr_my33i2wiFl1srd8hzo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: pellius on January 07, 2014, 07:22:22 PM
I was 4 or 5. He was 9 or 10. Older kid at a swim meet.

Idk


Just made me stare at cocks in porn and want.to suck on them

I had a lot of issues growing up that played a role in alll my life decisions so its really tought to say if the incident had any other effects outside of.homosexual desires

A 9-10 year old was interested in sucking cocks? That makes him what? In the 4th grade? Makes one wonder how the hell he grew up and what he is like today.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: galeniko on January 08, 2014, 01:52:24 AM
ha yall "gay is choice"sayers-claiments, you wont be laughing when you meet a classy,charismatc and hotlooking tranny for the first time ;D


if holyfeilds, who isnt a nobel priced laudeate spaceship builder, hes a man who got punched to the skull a million times, believes gay is a choice, then so be it his opinion.

somehow sad and good to know that filthy rich ppl let their minds being occupied by such stupid issues.

he doesnt get it, the more homos are out there ,the more girls are left for the studs.

Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Darren Avey on January 08, 2014, 02:13:21 AM
(http://nextraterrestrial.com/pdf/real-deal.gif)

looks like he works out

What? And people say this guy could bench 500lbs! haa I don't think so John
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: galeniko on January 08, 2014, 02:17:21 AM
What? And people say this guy could bench 500lbs! haa I don't think so John
whats not to believe,,look at his monumentous triceps and monsteros chest.hahaha
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: _bruce_ on January 08, 2014, 03:23:26 AM
The political correctness police can go f.uck themselves. This shit has gone way overboard, you should be able to say what you think when asked without people getting all upset. Have some balls and speak your mind don't let the weak minority bully free speech from people. You cannot. Suppress what and how people feel and think and you sure as bell can't make people live willfully with others they dislike.

Pretty much this.
The problem is not being hetero or gay but the constant pressure put on anyone speaking out "against" a certain "issue".
Sexual dis/orientations will now be used with the same fierce attitude as racial ones - the loser is the casual hetero/bi/homo person that gets caught up in the huge agenda of making life a misery for anything breathing.
Like with feminism the originally advocated will suffer the most in the long run.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Kwon_2 on January 08, 2014, 04:54:56 AM
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18s0e41udevjhjpg/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Thick Nick on January 08, 2014, 05:17:54 AM
I was 4 or 5. He was 9 or 10. Older kid at a swim meet.

Idk


Just made me stare at cocks in porn and want.to suck on them

I had a lot of issues growing up that played a role in alll my life decisions so its really tought to say if the incident had any other effects outside of.homosexual desires


This is the gayest thing I have ever read. I feel dirty for just having read it. I am going to watch so much girl on girl porn later that I will most likely injure my penis pulling in it so hard just to make me forget ever seeing this post. God I pray you help me forget.
Title: Re: Evander Holyfield reprimanded for saying being gay can be ‘fixed’
Post by: Darren Avey on January 08, 2014, 06:23:51 AM
Hahahaha brutal tris, chest and legs. Imagine if BigSteve got hold of this guy haha he d make him wish he weren't born!