I was a natural bodybuilder until 2001.I did several shows, did well then I said let me give Muscle Mania ,LOL.Not a good idea if you are a drug free for life bodybuilder.I got 4th, in the heavies.Then I gave Team Universe a try, and got killed.I am telling you these guys in Team Universe, and Msucel Mania are as dense and as hard as the guys in the NPC Mr USA.
The year I did Team Universe Skip Lacour came in a 233lbs, with glutes stridated,James Bivens came in a 255lbs, then there was some other guy, with a huge GH was 5'11'' 245lbs.
I came in a 216lbs, and got slaughtered, but I was drug free
I have big heavy bones.and a large frame..
I was 250lbs after 15 years of training, and I dieted down and next to them I looked like a broom handle.
All those guys were hard, dense, and there muscle bellies were insane.
After that show, I said, I am done with the Natural route, and crossed over to the dark side.
I will never step foot on a natural stage again, unless they want me to guest pose or give out a trophy.
I got integrity, if you use any gear,or any type of your as should never be on a natural stage.
If people will natural shows and use gear, I dont know how they can even look themselves in the mirror and be proud they won.I personally couldnt do it.It would eat me up and the guilt take over.
I dont care if your natural or not, but if you use any form of steroid, dont enter natural shows.
To me thats called head huinting.Its not fair, and its cheating.If you cheat to win, you really didnt win.IMO