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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2023, 04:57:52 PM »

Absolutely, I think if you work for a company turning a profit on your labor, your literal life force
You as a laborer should get a larger payout.

What's an appropriate wage for fast food workers? When is it enough? 150k+?
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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2023, 04:58:50 PM »
This won't matter all that much. They will just fire workers and either 1) make less workers work harder or 2) bring in robots.
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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2023, 05:05:48 PM »
Fast food workers and owners should be executed

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2023, 05:08:40 PM »
What's an appropriate wage for fast food workers? When is it enough? 150k+?


Whatever, they should get some meaningful bonus or some sort of profit sharing off the franchise’s profit at the end of the fiscal year[size=78%].[/size]


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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2023, 05:09:51 PM »
Because without the owners there wouldn’t be workers. Pretty simple concept.
Of course it’s wormtongue that responds , how about owners aren’t shit without laborers

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2023, 05:16:28 PM »
What convinced all of you to show solidarity with owners instead of workers?

Getbiggers like hamburgers.

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2023, 05:37:05 PM »
What convinced all of you to show solidarity with owners instead of workers?

False premise.

A workers’ best protection is having options. Advocating a policy that drives restaurants out of business is anti-worker.

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2023, 05:39:05 PM »
What convinced all of you to show solidarity with owners instead of workers?

It isn't about solidarity with owners. Why should fast food workers have a different minimum wage than other workers? What about gas station cashiers, janitors, etc.?

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2023, 05:42:01 PM »
don’t you have some more ai or April fools articles to fall for?

You don’t agree? Give me your reasoning. If you’re going to say something ridiculous, back it up

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2023, 05:45:05 PM »

Whatever, they should get some meaningful bonus or some sort of profit sharing off the franchise’s profit at the end of the fiscal year[size=78%].[/size]



How about free small fries once a week or at Wendy's a small Frosty?

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2023, 06:02:48 PM »

Whatever, they should get some meaningful bonus or some sort of profit sharing off the franchise’s profit at the end of the fiscal year[size=78%].[/size]

What if the franchise loses money? Do they give back their salary?

Socialist act as though profits are a given when in reality they’re hard to come by.

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2023, 06:02:56 PM »
Of course it’s wormtongue that responds , how about owners aren’t shit without laborers

Let’s take it up. You raise the minimum to 20.00 it has to be passed on to the consumer to cover the costs of doing business this includes all over head. Restaurants being fast food or otherwise run on small profit margins as it is. And with part of that profit margin is the reinvestment for growth. How does growth happen with prices are too high, consumers drop? What do you think the eventual end results will be?

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2023, 06:04:47 PM »
How about free small fries once a week or at Wendy's a small Frosty?

That's called the shrink loss special.

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2023, 06:16:34 PM »
This won't matter all that much. They will just fire workers and either 1) make less workers work harder or 2) bring in robots.


That was already the case, have you been to a cvs? A whole foods? They’re already replacing people withself checkouts while simultaneously increasing prices.

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2023, 06:28:40 PM »

Absolutely, I think if you work for a company turning a profit on your labor, your literal life force
You as a laborer should get a larger payout.


Just curious, at what point does the headache, sleepless nights and financial exposure by the owner get  capped money wise and the rest given to the workers?

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2023, 06:59:10 PM »
False premise.

A workers’ best protection is having options. Advocating a policy that drives restaurants out of business is anti-worker.


advocating people work full time jobs and not be able to rent a bedroom is what? pro worker? 

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2023, 07:05:00 PM »
Let’s take it up. You raise the minimum to 20.00 it has to be passed on to the consumer to cover the costs of doing business this includes all over head. Restaurants being fast food or otherwise run on small profit margins as it is. And with part of that profit margin is the reinvestment for growth. How does growth happen with prices are too high, consumers drop? What do you think the eventual end results will be?


Ohh is that's why costs have been passed down to the working class?  because of min wages? the fed min wage hasnt been raised since 2009, that must mean no costs have been pushed on the working class.

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2023, 07:05:30 PM »

LoL govts and media have everyone so confused the plebs are now arguing against higher wages for the poor bugger making a takeaway hamburger.


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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2023, 07:05:46 PM »

advocating people work full time jobs and not be able to rent a bedroom is what? pro worker?

Fast food jobs (minimum wage jobs) are entry level jobs usually used as a stepping stone for teenagers starting out in the workforce not meant to be full time positions.

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2023, 07:18:05 PM »

Ohh is that's why costs have been passed down to the working class?  because of min wages? the fed min wage hasnt been raised since 2009, that must mean no costs have been pushed on the working class.

The minimum wage in California in 2022 was raised to $15 then in January of 23’ the wage went to 15.50. For the most part the quality of the food and services has declined while the cost of a fast food meal has gone up. At least if you’re going to absurdly raise the wage, you have to increase the quality of the food and better train the employees.

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2023, 07:19:06 PM »

Absolutely, I think if you work for a company turning a profit on your labor, your literal life force
You as a laborer should get a larger payout.

Good.  When are you giving your employees a raise? What are your company’s profit margins and how much of that should be devoted to blue collar wages?

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2023, 07:19:24 PM »
Fast food jobs (minimum wage jobs) are entry level jobs usually used as a stepping stone for teenagers starting out in the workforce not meant to be full time positions.


says who? up until about 1970 america min wage was literally a livable wage. and you could argue, that post war america until around 1970 was the best period of american history. hmm, what are the odds those things line up

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2023, 07:21:10 PM »
Good.  When are you giving your employees a raise? What are your company’s profit margins and how much of that should be devoted to blue collar wages?
I work for a startup where everyone gets equity in the company,  there's 401k match and profit sharing bonus.

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2023, 07:22:06 PM »

says who? up until about 1970 america min wage was literally a livable wage. and you could argue, that post war america until around 1970 was the best period of american history. hmm, what are the odds those things line up

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Re: California fast food workers to earn minimum of $20 an hour under new law
« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2023, 07:25:57 PM »
The minimum wage in California in 2022 was raised to $15 then in January of 23’ the wage went to 15.50. For the most part the quality of the food and services has declined while the cost of a fast food meal has gone up. At least if you’re going to absurdly raise the wage, you have to increase the quality of the food and better train the employees.


hmm, was that the start of the decline? food service/quality wasn't on the decline way before that?  companies didn't switch to idk frozen low quality meat filled with preservatives before 2022