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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: triple_pickle on January 02, 2009, 08:26:00 PM
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lol, i almost spat out my hydroxymaze ionized protein drink ;D
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lol, i almost spat out my hydroxymaze ionized protein drink ;D
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
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More money in bb'ing.....
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ya putting a weight over your head is pure alpha ::).. im sure the girls come running when they find out a guys overhead press max..
bodybuilding is only gay for a few days of the year when your on stage. the rest of the time its more then any of these 'weighlifters'' could even attempt..
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we all respect the olympic weightlifters...
but wayyy more 16-25yr old males are interested in bicep curls, bench press and tricep pushdowns than those complex movements
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How good of a full body exercise is that lift?
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actually... i think bodybuilders make more money than weight lifters given their endorsments, contest, guest posing, apperances etc??
Weightlifters just do those two lifts... and thats it right?? I might be a bit bias... but i would prefer to look like the average IFBB pro than a olympic weightlifter
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actually... i think bodybuilders make more money than weight lifters given their endorsments, contest, guest posing, apperance etc??
Weightlifters just do those two lifts... and thats it right?? I might be a bit bias... but i would prefer to look like the average IFBB pro than a olympic weightlifter
Yes, bb'ers make more money and i too would rather look like a pro bb'er than a champion weightlifter.
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I have alot of respect for weightlifting, even though I myself would never go into this anus-ripping sport that permanently damages your spine and gives one multiple hernias.
A-a-and....If one is to juice, then rather look great while at it than look like shit ;)
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Here is an easy question for the true lifters and historians. Who is the most recognized weightlifter who has won both major Bodybuilding titles and Olympic Gold. And yes he is a friend of mine. Quaker you can't answer cause I am sure you know
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Here is an easy question for the true lifters and historians. Who is the most recognized weightlifter who has won both major Bodybuilding titles and Olympic Gold. And yes he is a friend of mine. Quaker you can't answer cause I am sure you know
Tommy Kono.
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Here is an easy question for the true lifters and historians. Who is the most recognized weightlifter who has won both major Bodybuilding titles and Olympic Gold. And yes he is a friend of mine. Quaker you can't answer cause I am sure you know
Richard Nixon
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Tommy Kono.
Damm it I knew it was to easy
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Here is an easy question for the true lifters and historians. Who is the most recognized weightlifter
You got to be fcuking kidding me.
How is Tommy Kono more recognized than Naim Suleymanoglü?
Or better, Alexeiev? ::)
Don't try to compare your little Hawaiian friend to David Rigert, Suleymanoglü or eg Pyrros Dimas.
I would bet you anything that if your little buddy would take a walk in any random city in the USA nobody would know who he was.
Dimas doing the same thing in Greece?
Suleymanoglü in Turkey?
They'd be crowded with fans.
Not to mention Rezazadeh, who's already a legend.
No offence big guy, but when it comes to Tommy Kono, you are always full of shit. 8)
What was it last time - he was ranked as the greatest olympic weightlifter of all times? ::)
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You got to be fcuking kidding me.
How is Tommy Kono more recognized than Naim Suleymanoglü?
Or better, Alexeiev? ::)
Don't try to compare your little Hawaiian friend to David Rigert, Suleymanoglü or eg Pyrros Dimas.
I would bet you anything that if your little buddy would take a walk in any random city in the USA nobody would know who he was.
Dimas doing the same thing in Greece?
Suleymanoglü in Turkey?
They'd be crowded with fans.
Not to mention Rezazadeh, who's already a legend.
No offence big guy, but when it comes to Tommy Kono, you are always full of shit. 8)
What was it last time - he was ranked as the greatest olympic weightlifter of all times? ::)
Calm down big guy, he said most recognised as in guys who have been both champion bb'ers AND olympic lifters.
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You got to be fcuking kidding me.
How is Tommy Kono more recognized than Naim Suleymanoglü?
Or better, Alexeiev? ::)
Don't try to compare your little Hawaiian friend to David Rigert, Suleymanoglü or eg Pyrros Dimas.
I would bet you anything that if your little buddy would take a walk in any random city in the USA nobody would know who he was.
Dimas doing the same thing in Greece?
Suleymanoglü in Turkey?
They'd be crowded with fans.
Not to mention Rezazadeh, who's already a legend.
No offence big guy, but when it comes to Tommy Kono, you are always full of shit. 8)
What was it last time - he was ranked as the greatest olympic weightlifter of all times? ::)
Get your shit straight. Tommy Kono is recognized as the Weightlifter of the Century and I promise you has won more awards recognizing him as this than all those guys you mentioned put together. Your ignorance is starting off the new year pretty high you fucking moron
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You got to be fcuking kidding me.
How is Tommy Kono more recognized than Naim Suleymanoglü?
Or better, Alexeiev? ::)
Don't try to compare your little Hawaiian friend to David Rigert, Suleymanoglü or eg Pyrros Dimas.
I would bet you anything that if your little buddy would take a walk in any random city in the USA nobody would know who he was.
Dimas doing the same thing in Greece?
Suleymanoglü in Turkey?
They'd be crowded with fans.
Not to mention Rezazadeh, who's already a legend.
No offence big guy, but when it comes to Tommy Kono, you are always full of shit. 8)
What was it last time - he was ranked as the greatest olympic weightlifter of all times? ::)
Show some respect, Goddammit! Onlyme once sat next to Jonsey from Police Academy at a charity event.
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Get your shit straight. Tommy Kono is recognized as the Weightlifter of the Century and I promise you has won more awards recognizing him as this than all those guys you mentioned put together. Your ignorance is starting off the new year pretty high you fucking moron
I guess you probably haven't even heard of any of those "no-name" lifters then? ::)
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I guess you probably haven't even heard of any of those "no-name" lifters then? ::)
A couple I have. But the fact is Tommy was named Weightlifter of the Century by Sports Illustrated (Arnold was there along with many others) and has been named to just about every Hall of Fame relating to Weightlifting in the World. And he was a champion Bodybuilder. I am pretty sure NO one of the guys you mentioned has ever had his name in the same sentence with bodybuilder. Great Olympic lifters yes, but I said bodybuilder and weightlifter. Hedge did you finish school or were you home-schooled which would explain your lack of comprehension. Your lack of knowledge or facts is pitiful. Stick to moving threads. You suck at that too, but at least we are used to it.
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A couple I have. But the fact is Tommy was named Weightlifter of the Century by Sports Illustrated (Arnold was there along with many others) and has been named to just about every Hall of Fame relating to Weightlifting in the World. And he was a champion Bodybuilder. I am pretty sure NO one of the guys you mentioned has ever had his name in the same sentence with bodybuilder. Great Olympic lifters yes, but I said bodybuilder and weightlifter. Hedge did you finish school or were you home-schooled which would explain your lack of comprehension. Your lack of knowledge or facts is pitiful. Stick to moving threads. You suck at that too, but at least we are used to it.
There are many Weightlifting hall of fames?
What makes you think either Suleymanoglü, Rigert or Dimas (three guys that competed in limited weightclasses) would want to compete in bodybuilding?
What makes you think that they're not making more money in Olympic weightlifting, even after their careers as lifters?
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!
FAIL.
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I never cease to be amazed by weightlifters' raw brute strength. The Olympics this year was excellent and I could never lift in a million years what these guys at a similar bodyweight to mine can do.
However, I'd rather look like a bodybuilder any day.
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I never cease to be amazed by weightlifters' raw brute strength. The Olympics this year was excellent and I could never lift in a million years what these guys at a similar bodyweight to mine can do.
However, I'd rather look like a bodybuilder any day.
Ahem.... ;D
(http://stronglifts.com/images/coleman-rezazadeh.jpg)
Still,I think some of them have pretty solid physiques....
(http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/images10/tommy_kono676.gif)
(http://www.oldtimestrongman.com/images12/chuck_vinci.gif)
(http://crossfitrockford.typepad.com/crossfit_rockford/images/2007/10/08/body20of20lifter.jpg)
(http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8gnq0/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Pisarenko_back_1982.jpg)
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_cIchV4xHHwg/RvfQxVtg6II/AAAAAAAAAVI/q7zcyuh0ZFk/pisarenko+sn+hi+pull.jpg)
(http://www.peoples.ru/sport/heavy_atlete/sultan_rahmanov/rahmanov_rakhmanov.jpg)
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Here is an easy question for the true lifters and historians. Who is the most recognized weightlifter who has won both major Bodybuilding titles and Olympic Gold. And yes he is a friend of mine. Quaker you can't answer cause I am sure you know
Vasily Alexeyev, David Rigert, Naim Suleymanoglu, Dimas, Khakiasvhilis, Pisarenko, Yurik Vardanyan, Mutlu, etc. etc etc.
None of these guys are bodybuilders though. ;D
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(http://mysite.verizon.net/vze8gnq0/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Pisarenko_back_1982.jpg)
Shows what a tank pisarenko was.
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Not being an agent provacateur but.....
Never heard of Tommy Kono
Have heard of Dymas, sulemanoglu, hailie mutu, tarenenko (sp) hamman rez etc
Those guys are certainly famous.
Tommy isnt.
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Tommy Kono is well known, but to say that he is the weightlifter of the century or whatnot is just not true.
I like Onlyme but he's wrong on that one.
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Tommy Kono is well known, but to say that he is the weightlifter of the century or whatnot is just not true.
I like Onlyme but he's wrong on that one.
Okay, the guys mentioned are all awesome. My statement was bodybuilder and weightlifting. Not just weightlifting. Tommy was awesome in BOTH which is a whole harder than just one. His accomplishments are not to shabby either.
Here are some of his acheivements. By the way they are in multiple weight classes
http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/11/tommy-kono.html (http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/11/tommy-kono.html)
TITLES - WEIGHTLIFTING
1952 Olympic Lightweight Champion Helsinki, Finland
1953 World Middleweight Champion Stockholm, Sweden
1954 World Light-Heavyweight Champion Vienna, Austria
1955 World Light-Heavyweight Champion Munich, Germany
1956 Olympic Light-Heavyweight Champion Melbourne, Germany
1957 World Middleweight Champion Teheran, Iran
1958 World Middleweight Champion Stockholm, Sweden
1959 World Middleweight Champion Warsaw, Poland
1955 Pan American Games Light- Heavyweight Champion Mexico City, Mexico
1959 Pan American Games Middleweight Champion Chicago, Illinois
1963 Pan American Games Light-Heavyweight Champion Sao Paulo, Brazil
TITLE - PHYSIQUE
1954 "Mr. World" Roubaix, France
1955 "Mr. Universe" Munich, Germany
1957 "Mr. Universe" Teheran, Iran
1961 "Mr. Universe" Vienna, Austria
INTERNATIONAL RECORDS ESTABLISHED
26 World Record
7 Olympic Records
8 Pan American Games Records
PROFESINAL ACHIEVMENT AND HONORS
National & Olympic Coach for Mexico
National & Olympic Coach For Western Germany
Olympic Coach for U.S.A.
I.W.F. International Coach Title
International Referee - Category 1
U.S. Olympic Hall of Fame
One Hundred Golden Olympians
INTERNATIONAL WEIGHTLIFTING FEDERATION HONORS
International Weightlifting Hall of Fame
I.W.F 25 Year Service Award
Most Successful Weightlifter
-Olympic & World for 8 consecutive years
-World & Olympic Titles in 3 Different bodyweight classes
-Established World Records in 4 different bodyweight classes
I.W.F. LIFTER OF THE CENTURY AWARD
Tommy Kono
Weightlifter
Tommy Kono, a Sacramento native and Sacramento High School graduate, is considered by many to be the greatest weightlifter in history. He won gold medals at the 1952 Helsinki and 1956 Melbourne Olympics and a silver medal at the 1960 Games in Rome. Kono set 26 world records during his storied career and was the only weightlifter to set world records in four weight classes, a feat that never has been equaled. Kono later turned to bodybuilding, where he won three Mr. Universe titles and one Mr. World crown. After retiring from bodybuilding, he returned to weightlifting to become one of the most respected coaches in the world. Kono is a member of the International Weightlifting and Olympic halls of fame and was named by the International Weightlifting Federation the Lifter of the Century. At 77, he is retired and living in Hawaii.
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Naim Süleymanoğlu (Turkey) - 46 world records, Olympic gold (1988, 1992, 1996)
Yury Vlasov (USSR) - 29 world records, Olympic gold (1960), silver (1964)
Vasiliy Alekseyev (USSR) - 80 world records, Olympic gold (1972, 1976)
Pyrros Dimas (Greece) - Olympic gold (1992, 1996, 2000), Olympic bronze (2004)
Halil Mutlu (Turkey) - 25 world records, Olympic gold (1996, 2000, 2004)
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Only one...Taranenko..266 kg in clean and jerk..still unbeaten to this day (he did it in 1987).
Weight lifters are athletes training 6-9 hrs daily.
While BB do "high intensity" for 45 min a day.
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So many unbeaten records from the 80's, yurik vardanyan's 405kg total @ -82.5 (dimas didn't even get close @ 85kg), yuri zacharevich's 210 snatch @ 110, krastevs 216 snatch etc.
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Tommy Kono is one of Olympic lifting's greats and certainly the greatest Olympic lifter that America ever produced.
(http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/06/83206-004-1CC23C9F.jpg)
As for making two careers in olympic lifting and bodybuilding,this gentleman wasn't too shabby either... ;D
(http://img220.echo.cx/img220/6889/275lbsnatchsergiooliva5tr.jpg)
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Okay, the guys mentioned are all awesome. My statement was bodybuilder and weightlifting. Not just weightlifting. Tommy was awesome in BOTH which is a whole harder than just one. His accomplishments are not to shabby either.
Epic backtracking big boy. But that's ok.
Here are some of his acheivements. By the way they are in multiple weight classes
http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/11/tommy-kono.html (http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2008/11/tommy-kono.html)
TITLES - WEIGHTLIFTING
1952 Olympic Lightweight Champion Helsinki, Finland
1953 World Middleweight Champion Stockholm, Sweden
1954 World Light-Heavyweight Champion Vienna, Austria
1955 World Light-Heavyweight Champion Munich, Germany
1956 Olympic Light-Heavyweight Champion Melbourne, Germany
1957 World Middleweight Champion Teheran, Iran
1958 World Middleweight Champion Stockholm, Sweden
1959 World Middleweight Champion Warsaw, Poland
1955 Pan American Games Light- Heavyweight Champion Mexico City, Mexico
1959 Pan American Games Middleweight Champion Chicago, Illinois
1963 Pan American Games Light-Heavyweight Champion Sao Paulo, Brazil
TITLE - PHYSIQUE
1954 "Mr. World" Roubaix, France
1955 "Mr. Universe" Munich, Germany
1957 "Mr. Universe" Teheran, Iran
1961 "Mr. Universe" Vienna, Austria
INTERNATIONAL RECORDS ESTABLISHED
26 World Record
7 Olympic Records
8 Pan American Games Records
PROFESINAL ACHIEVMENT AND HONORS
National & Olympic Coach for Mexico
National & Olympic Coach For Western Germany
Olympic Coach for U.S.A.
I.W.F. International Coach Title
International Referee - Category 1
U.S. Olympic Hall of Fame
One Hundred Golden Olympians
INTERNATIONAL WEIGHTLIFTING FEDERATION HONORS
International Weightlifting Hall of Fame
I.W.F 25 Year Service Award
Most Successful Weightlifter
-Olympic & World for 8 consecutive years
-World & Olympic Titles in 3 Different bodyweight classes
-Established World Records in 4 different bodyweight classes
I.W.F. LIFTER OF THE CENTURY AWARD
Tommy Kono
Weightlifter
Tommy Kono, a Sacramento native and Sacramento High School graduate, is considered by many to be the greatest weightlifter in history. He won gold medals at the 1952 Helsinki and 1956 Melbourne Olympics and a silver medal at the 1960 Games in Rome. Kono set 26 world records during his storied career and was the only weightlifter to set world records in four weight classes, a feat that never has been equaled. Kono later turned to bodybuilding, where he won three Mr. Universe titles and one Mr. World crown. After retiring from bodybuilding, he returned to weightlifting to become one of the most respected coaches in the world. Kono is a member of the International Weightlifting and Olympic halls of fame and was named by the International Weightlifting Federation the Lifter of the Century. At 77, he is retired and living in Hawaii.
Who else, except you, believe him to be the greatest Olympic weightlifter in the history?
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The problem with comparing Kono, Rigert, Pisarenko, etc.... is because they are from different eras.
If you asked this question in the 50's Tommy Kono certain would have been at the top or near the top of anyone's best lifter lists.
The strength sports are small and memories fade.
Lifters like Dimas, Alexyeev, Rigert, etc.... are probably more famous than Kono now, but that is because we are young and looking at it with a modern eye.
As to whether Bodybuilders or Weightlifters do better career wise, perhaps in the U.S. that is true, as we stopped really caring about weightlifting as a sport many years ago.
But in countries where Weightlifting is still a popular sport, retired lifters do very well, much better than your average "pro" bodybuilder.
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Epic backtracking big boy. But that's ok.
Who else, except you, believe him to be the greatest Olympic weightlifter in the history?
How do you figure? This was my ORIGINAL post in this thread Here is an easy question for the true lifters and historians. Who is the most recognized weightlifter who has won both major Bodybuilding titles and Olympic Gold. And yes he is a friend of mine. Quaker you can't answer cause I am sure you know Now show me where I backtracked. Thanks for proving me right again. I think I have you convinced now he is the greatest. Just, you are trying really hard not to give in. ;)
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Not being an agent provacateur but.....
Never heard of Tommy Kono
Have heard of Dymas, sulemanoglu, hailie mutu, tarenenko (sp) hamman rez etc
Those guys are certainly famous.
Tommy isnt.
come on man Tonny Kono is a legend, you should read some back issues of MILO you'd love it, anyway Keith's friend Tommy is easlily one of the greatest ever, great physique as well.
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Yes i have heard about him through Onlyme.
But have heard more about other guys.
I heard milo was an awsome mag
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Yes i have heard about him through Onlyme.
But have heard more about other guys.
I heard milo was an awsome mag
that's not taking anything away from Naim, Dimas, Rigert Alexeev or any of those guys though, Dimas especially was a FREAK, America has produced some great lifters too, Kono, Patera, Dube, Martinez, Cameron, Michaels, Bednarski, etc, all great lifters in their own right.
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Yes i have heard about him through Onlyme.
But have heard more about other guys.
I heard milo was an awsome mag
I understand why people nowadays never heard of Tommy Hell he competed 40 years ago and coached in the 70's and 80's. He works for the Parks and Recreation in Honolulu. Maybe not still cause he is old. But, people who truly follow that sport definitely know him and know how much he is respected. The guys of today are on another planet compared to what Tommy was. but Tommy was a champion in the Olympics and then in Bodybuilding and not some little local shows. Plus I think he was in some prisoner camp or something. He is very humble and a great guy. I am really happy I got to know him and be friends with him.
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I understand why people nowadays never heard of Tommy Hell he competed 40 years ago and coached in the 70's and 80's. He works for the Parks and Recreation in Honolulu. Maybe not still cause he is old. But, people who truly follow that sport definitely know him and know how much he is respected. The guys of today are on another planet compared to what Tommy was. but Tommy was a champion in the Olympics and then in Bodybuilding and not some little local shows. Plus I think he was in some prisoner camp or something. He is very humble and a great guy. I am really happy I got to know him and be friends with him.
Hey Onlyme,
Did you ever get a chance to workout with tommy?
Also, did u ever have a go at Olympic Lifting yourself?
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Hey Onlyme,
Did you ever get a chance to workout with tommy?
Also, did u ever have a go at Olympic Lifting yourself?
No never trained with him but watched train others when I would go to the Nuuanu Y where he teaches (or did). Never go into the Olympic lifting. I basically lifted for my sport and to get as thick as possible and strong.