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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Marty Champions on January 29, 2007, 06:38:41 AM
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something i have noticed now that im really pounding the calories. ive actually cut back on weightlifting and upped the cardio because i tend to get sluggish feeling and sleepy after eating 7-8000 calories a day and cardio with all the sweat wakes me up and makes me feel better.
but my point is with all these calories im not doing the crazy high volume sets although high volume sets are not bad at all because they ensure you are breaking down the muscle and stimulating a maximum growth potential. but the thing is i dont do near as many sets but my strength has gone way up i can actually do about 8 sets of 315 never done anything like that in my life and incline curl 75 pound dumbells for easy reps.
its like you have to eat sooooooooooooo much junk food to fully saturate the muscle , for it to grow if its not fully saturated you wont gain strength as quickly. for me i pay attention to the scale i forefeed myself to make sure i gain 2 pounds everday , its probably 90 percent water weight but water makes up a muscle different fluids n such. i would probably gain even better if i did more training but tons of food makes me sluggish as hell and so after a bout of cardio i feel like 100 bucks!
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here's what I'll tell you, take it or leave it. When I was younger I was getting ready for a competition and got really sick and dropped a ton of weight. Once I was ok to start training again I did the exact thing you're doing-force feeding myself but I was shooting for a pound a day not 2. I was eating tons of rice and eggs, along with a ton of junk food just tons. I wish I never did that cause it f'd up my metabolism and made it that much harder to cut up.
take it or leave it.
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there is whole new thread about not needing cardio, some respected experts have chimed in with their thoughts
and here is this fucker..upping the food, lifting less and doing more cardio.
the human body is a great instrument with it's adaptive abilities..
I can eat minimal and still gain
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8 sets of 315 on what?
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prob. 3 fifteen bags of weed...
8 sets of 315 on what?
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i will be the best bodybuilder ever
you have the potential to do extremely well with a lot more size and thickness packed onto that huge frame of yours, if you got onstage with a lot of mass at your height you'd look incredible.
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"The AMOUNT of food is more important than Training"
yes this is the message that needs to be spread to the american public! americans, listen up! you're not eating enough!
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"The AMOUNT of food is more important than Training"
yes this is the message that needs to be spread to the american public! americans, listen up! you're not eating enough!
no the average american, non motivated, non active american should only drink coffee and have only one cookie a day and water
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i plan to average 10,000 calories a day in the near future, and be 350 pounds solid
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i plan to average 10,000 calories a day in the near future, and be 350 pounds solid
why, i cant recall anyone eating that much. magnus samuelsson is like 350 pounds and he eats 8500 calories tops
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why, i cant recall anyone eating that much. magnus samuelsson is like 350 pounds and he eats 8500 calories tops
a natural has to eat more and train more than a juicer
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Samuelsson doesn't eat 8500 calories and neither does anyone else, guys wayyyyyy overestimate how much they eat.
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Samuelsson doesn't eat 8500 calories and neither does anyone else, guys wayyyyyy overestimate how much they eat.
yeah it sounds like an exaggeration, still the info comes straight off his page. but normally they're 5500-6000 tops. so that means dw would pretty much double that
maybe he can take up sumo wrestling when he's done
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i tend to get sluggish feeling and sleepy after eating 7-8000 calories a day
bullshit mate..
actually measure out 8000 cals and put it on a table...
how can you afford to eat that much let alone how do they let you constantly eat at work?
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bullshit mate..
actually measure out 8000 cals and put it on a table...
how can you afford to eat that much let alone how do they let you constantly eat at work?
he's obviously exaggerating, he probably eats more like 4000-4500 which is still a lot.
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even i eat 4000 calories
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he's obviously exaggerating, he probably eats more like 4000-4500 which is still a lot.
yep..my point exactly..
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even i eat 4000 calories
i highly doubt that, what most guys think is 4000 is more like 2800-3000 in reality.
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i plan to average 10,000 calories a day in the near future, and be 350 pounds solid
Magnus Samuelsson claims he eats at least 8000 calories a day to maintain his weight. He works pretty hard all day as a farmer, add training to that. I've seen another strongman eat. The guy would literally just forcefeed himself pasta after workouts. He would fill a big plate up with pasta, eat it all, and then have at least one more the same size. And at least half a gallon of milk would be downed during this.
Going to buffets with this fcuker was a sight to be seen.
I believe Magnus could be eating 8000 calories, definitely.
Good luck with your bulk.
Would be interesting to see you try strongman, that's where I think you got real potential.
-Hedge
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Magnus Samuelsson claims he eats at least 8000 calories a day to maintain his weight. He works pretty hard all day as a farmer, add training to that. I've seen another strongman eat. The guy would literally just forcefeed himself pasta after workouts. He would fill a big plate up with pasta, eat it all, and then have at least one more the same size. And at least half a gallon of milk would be downed during this.
Going to buffets with this fcuker was a sight to be seen.
I believe Magnus could be eating 8000 calories, definitely.
Good luck with your bulk.
Would be interesting to see you try strongman, that's where I think you got real potential.
-Hedge
problem is though that even that big plate of pasta is around 700 calories so that's really not that much food.
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i highly doubt that, what most guys think is 4000 is more like 2800-3000 in reality.
well i actually calculate what i eat so. two big macs alone is 1000 calories. im not talking about some diet. i dont diet ;D
4000 calories at 6 meals a day only average 666 calories.
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i plan to average 10,000 calories a day in the near future, and be 350 pounds solid
Buy lots of toilet roll, you'll be shitting 6 times a day!
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well i actually calculate what i eat so. two big macs alone is 1000 calories. im not talking about some diet. i dont diet ;D
4000 calories at 6 meals a day only average 666 calories.
what i'm saying is that most people drastically overestimate how many calories are in given foods.
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1 package of ramen noodes is 380 calories for on 10 CENTS!!!!!!! it IS affordable
eat 30 packs of ramen noodles a day whats that 10,000 calories ITS TOO EASY
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what i'm saying is that most people drastically overestimate how many calories are in given foods.
yes i would agree with that, especially those who has a problem packing on size they usually start out with "well i eat all the time man!!! and i still wont grow!"
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look at it this way, two large loaded Meat Lovers pizzas from Pizza Hut is probably right around 8000 calories, how many people could do that or the equivalent day in and day out?
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1 package of ramen noodes is 380 calories for on 10 CENTS!!!!!!! it IS affordable
eat 30 packs of ramen noodles a day whats that 10,000 calories ITS TOO EASY
lol, dude, no one is eating 10,000 cal per day
http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/item/06582.html
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 container, individual (64.0 g)
Amount Per Serving
Calories 296Calories from Fat 127
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 14.1g22%
Saturated Fat 6.3g31%
Cholesterol 0mg0%
Sodium 1434mg60%
Total Carbohydrates 36.8g12%
Protein 5.6g
Vitamin A 8% • Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 0% • Iron 12%
* Based on a 2000 calorie diet
good luck with that...No one can survive eating like that
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lol, dude, no one is eating 10,000 cal per day
http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/item/06582.html
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 container, individual (64.0 g)
Amount Per Serving
Calories 296Calories from Fat 127
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 14.1g22%
Saturated Fat 6.3g31%
Cholesterol 0mg0%
Sodium 1434mg60%
Total Carbohydrates 36.8g12%
Protein 5.6g
Vitamin A 8% • Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 0% • Iron 12%
* Based on a 2000 calorie diet
good luck with that...No one can survive eating like that
exactly, like i said, most guys drastically overestimate how many claories they think they eat.
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problem is though that even that big plate of pasta is around 700 calories so that's really not that much food.
dude, you are talking about 14 big plates of pasta in one day, every day.
look at it this way, that is one big plate every hour you are awake
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Their is no reason to eat 8000+ calories for all but a few strong men and bbers. It fucks with your metabolism, its hard on your digestive system, kidneys and liver, most of it ends up in the shitter since you body can only use so much. Mike Metzner proved you dont needs loads and loads of food to make good gains. Besides an endomorph really doesnt need many calories but a ectomorph might so saying the amount of food is more important than the training doesnt apply in most cases.
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Their is no reason to eat 8000+ calories for all but a few strong men and bbers. It fucks with your metabolism, its hard on your digestive system, kidneys and liver, most of it ends up in the shitter since you body can only use so much. Mike Metzner proved you dont needs loads and loads of food to make good gains. Besides an endomorph really doesnt need many calories but a ectomorph might so saying the amount of food is more important than the training doesnt apply in most cases.
for once i actually agree with you, especially in this country with all of the technological advances nobody really does anything physical anymore so our caloric needs are very low, i'd wager to guess that the average bb'ers 12-13 set workout burns AT MOST 200 calories.
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for the sakes of argument lets say that someone consumes 7,000 per day every day
how much of that would have to be expended daily to efficiently gain muscle and not fat?
clearly waddy is not fat so he much be burning enough to not gain fat.
still, I am guessing that he is round 3,500-4,000 cals at the most
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for once i actually agree with you, especially in this country with all of the technological advances nobody really does anything physical anymore so our caloric needs are very low, i'd wager to guess that the average bb'ers 12-13 set workout burns AT MOST 200 calories.
Squad, you raise an interesting point. But yet people insist that lifting alone is enough to put you in caloric defecit. They must be eating bird seeds. A good meal is 500 cal, right there is double the amount used up while working out
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for the sakes of argument lets say that someone consumes 7,000 per day every day
how much of that would have to be expended daily to efficiently gain muscle and not fat?
clearly waddy is not fat so he much be burning enough to not gain fat.
still, I am guessing that he is round 3,500-4,000 cals at the most
exactly right and make no mistake 3500-4000 calories is A LOT of food, more than most guys think.
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for once i actually agree with you, especially in this country with all of the technological advances nobody really does anything physical anymore so our caloric needs are very low, i'd wager to guess that the average bb'ers 12-13 set workout burns AT MOST 200 calories.
Right back at ya.
When im at the gym many of the lifters I watch put as much effort into their workouts as they do climbing the stairs. The average workout, and I stess average doesnt burn near as many calories as you think it might. From personal experience I can honestly say when I clean my diet up each spring I still dont drop any weight until I add cardio to my workouts(an hour 5 days per week) and I think im more active the the average person. Meal frequency/timing, and ratio are much more important than a massive load of calories to making gains
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Right back at ya.
When im at the gym many of the lifters I watch put as much effort into their workouts as they do climbing the stairs. The average workout, and I stess average doesnt burn near as many calories as you think it might. From personal experience I can honestly say when I clean my diet up each spring I still dont drop any weight until I add cardio to my workouts(an hour 5 days per week) and I think im more active the the average person. Meal frequency/timing, and ratio are much more important than a massive load of calories to making gains
dude, you are I must have the worse genetics known to man. Even with cleaning my diet up I still need a fair bit of cardio to get the job done.
these fuckers are consuming 3,500-4000 cal of mc donalds and ramen noodles and dropping fat without cardio and no drugs ;)
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The Titan Speaks!
I will say this: Gravity and resistance are the most important thing. Without it, food will do nothing. Astronauts, on a regular diet, in space, quickly start to wither away within 24 hours, no matter what they eat.
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dude, you are I must have the worse genetics known to man. Even with cleaning my diet up I still need a fair bit of cardio to get the job done.
these fuckers are consuming 3,500-4000 cal of mc donalds and ramen noodles and dropping fat without cardio and no drugs ;)
I have a basic Endo/Meso build. Leaning up for me has always been a pain while buddys of mine eat crap all the time, work out half as hard and still show abs. On the flip side I can walk away from the gym for months at a time but dont loose any mucle size to speak of and can get back in the swing of things in just a few weeks. I really have to do a good bit of cardio and REALLY watch my diet about 2200 cal/day to start to lean up. At least strength and size have never been an issue ;D
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I have a basic Endo/Meso build. Leaning up for me has always been a pain while buddys of mine eat crap all the time, work out half as hard and still show abs. On the flip side I can walk away from the gym for months at a time but dont loose any mucle size to speak of and can get back in the swing of things in just a few weeks. I really have to do a good bit of cardio and REALLY watch my diet about 2200 cal/day to start to lean up. At least strength and size have never been an issue ;D
lol, I look at an extra grain of rice and I gain a pound. But as stated on the plus side we usually out muscle most of our training buddies (they really hate that).
we need to start our own country
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i have no fucing idea how yall put away that much...
i struggle to get to the 2000 mark daily..and often miss it..
except when on tren..man o man i'm constantly hungry then..
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8 sets of 315 on what?
he said incline right?
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i plan to average 10,000 calories a day in the near future, and be 350 pounds solid
ahem, you need something else in your arsinal if you want to be solid 350.
try test cyp or e, some anadrol, some eq, and some tren. with that and your 8000 calories, you will be 350.
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bullshit mate..
actually measure out 8000 cals and put it on a table...
how can you afford to eat that much let alone how do they let you constantly eat at work?
8000 calories = 6.15 pints of Haagen Dasz @2.79 each. That's $17 a day. I spend more than that on lunch.
And you wouldn't have to be eating constantly either. The average person could put doen two of them in a sitting without too much difficulty... breakfast, lunch, and dinner!
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Queenier than Derek Anthony sneaking into the Tower of London and Trying on the Queen's crown jewels...
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8000 calories = 6.15 pints of Haagen Dasz @2.79 each. That's $17 a day. I spend more than that on lunch.
And you wouldn't have to be eating constantly either. The average person could put doen two of them in a sitting without too much difficulty... breakfast, lunch, and dinner!
lol, you are one crazy fucker for even thinking of this. Your math is slightly off..I think..correct me if I am wrong
1/2 cup = 1/4 pint = 270 cals
2 cups = 1 pint = 1080 cals
7.5 pints * 1080 = 8100
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1/2 cup (106.0 g)
Amount Per Serving
Calories 270Calories from Fat 162
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 18.0g28%
Saturated Fat 11.0g55%
Cholesterol 115mg38%
Sodium 75mg3%
Total Carbohydrates 22.0g7%
Sugars 21.0g
Protein 5.0g
* Based on a 2000 calorie diet
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A classic extreme ectomorph "hard gainer" (flat chested, lean, bones are light, joints are small, exceptionally short muscle bellies) like this dw joker could eat 20,000 cal a day and probably not have it have much effect on either his anabolism or his bodyfat percentage.
Unfortunate genetics for bodybuilding, but most average people would KILL to be able to eat like that cardio or no.
Don't take it personal dw, you're the one making the pronouncements and posting average looking pics claiming you're going to be the greatest.
Nice enthusiasm though. Kinda cute.
But just kinda.
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Lol, this is a stupid thread!
Massively overeating will simply make one fat.
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A classic extreme ectomorph "hard gainer" (flat chested, lean, bones are light, joints are small, exceptionally short muscle bellies) like this dw joker could eat 20,000 cal a day and probably not have it have much effect on either his anabolism or his bodyfat percentage.
Unfortunate genetics for bodybuilding, but most average people would KILL to be able to eat like that cardio or no.
Don't take it personal dw, you're the one making the pronouncements and posting average looking pics claiming you're going to be the greatest.
Nice enthusiasm though. Kinda cute.
But just kinda.
Alexxx, aren't you on timeout?
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you people are so stupid, if you are not gaining weight (eating more to gain) you wont gain pounds of muscle. but thats pefectly alright with me, i fucking waste everyone of you pathetics pussys in hieght muscle and brains plus i dont eat homo ass protien shakes or tuna plus i drink cheap ass beer for extra calories while most of you queers drink expensive weak ass low calorie budlight probablys (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig659.jpg)
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you people are so stupid, if you are not gaining weight (eating more to gain) you wont gain pounds of muscle. but thats pefectly alright with me, i fucking waste everyone of you pathetics pussys in hieght muscle and brains plus i dont eat homo ass protien shakes or tuna plus i drink cheap ass beer for extra calories while most of you queers drink expensive weak ass low calorie budlight probablys (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig659.jpg)
hahahaha, yes daddywaddy, these little fagggots will never understand your greatness.
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Lol, this is a stupid thread!
Massively overeating will simply make one fat.
Exactly.....5000, 6000, 7000, 8000+ calories AHAHAAH!!! Ridiculous.....even if someone consumed that much each day they'd spend the remaining time they're aren't gorging on a toilet shitting. It's bullshit, plain and simple.
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Exactly.....5000, 6000, 7000, 8000+ calories AHAHAAH!!! Ridiculous.....even if someone consumed that much each day they'd spend the remaining time they're aren't gorging on a toilet shitting. It's bullshit, plain and simple.
totally agreed and like i said most guys drastically overestimate how many calories they eat per day, they talk like they're eating machines and when you tally it all up it comes to around 3000 a lot of the time.
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hahahaha, yes daddywaddy, these little fagggots will never understand your greatness.
does sucking off waddy counts as cardio for you?
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8000 calories = 6.15 pints of Haagen Dasz @2.79 each. That's $17 a day. I spend more than that on lunch.
And you wouldn't have to be eating constantly either. The average person could put doen two of them in a sitting without too much difficulty... breakfast, lunch, and dinner!
i mean clean food >:(
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A classic extreme ectomorph "hard gainer" (flat chested, lean, bones are light, joints are small, exceptionally short muscle bellies) like this dw joker could eat 20,000 cal a day and probably not have it have much effect on either his anabolism or his bodyfat percentage.
Unfortunate genetics for bodybuilding, but most average people would KILL to be able to eat like that cardio or no.
Don't take it personal dw, you're the one making the pronouncements and posting average looking pics claiming you're going to be the greatest.
Nice enthusiasm though. Kinda cute.
But just kinda.
DW is not a hardgainer. He has exceptional bodybuilding genetics. He is talking a lot of crap for laughs though. He doesn't eat 10K calories a day.
If you think anyone could eat 20K calories, or even 10K and not get obese then you are the moron.
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Victor Richards said that he typically consummed 20,000-30,000 calories a day.
I bet he was eating 6500-8000.....maybe!
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lol, I look at an extra grain of rice and I gain a pound. But as stated on the plus side we usually out muscle most of our training buddies (they really hate that).
we need to start our own country
Im searching for the zero calorie pizza. Let me know if you come across one >:(
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you people are so stupid, if you are not gaining weight (eating more to gain) you wont gain pounds of muscle. but thats pefectly alright with me, i fucking waste everyone of you pathetics pussys in hieght muscle and brains plus i dont eat homo ass protien shakes or tuna plus i drink cheap ass beer for extra calories while most of you queers drink expensive weak ass low calorie budlight probablys (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig659.jpg)
So hows Miller High Life, Blatz, and Schlitz???
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Your arms do look good in the above pose Daddy. Why do you post such bullshit? Seriously.
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anyone who has eaten a double whopper with cheese can realise just how easy it would be for a power lifter to eat close to 10,000 cals a day....These things alone have over 1100 per sandwhich...I could easily eat 3 of these in one sitting if i really wanted to...And who couldn't eat a large pizza by themselves or a bucket of KFC...And wash it all down with a half gallon of ice cream...
For someone like a football lineman or strongman whos goal is to put on weight, eating shit like this would be so fuking easy...
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Your arms do look good in the above pose Daddy. Why do you post such bullshit? Seriously.
dude i said i eat 8000 calories im shooting for 10,000 calories. you people spazz out like a bunch of little angry midgets on everyword i say
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So hows Miller High Life, Blatz, and Schlitz???
blatz? not shure if i heard of it. miller high life is good n cheap too schlitz is real good and cheap good black folk beer
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dude i said i eat 8000 calories im shooting for 10,000 calories. you people spazz out like a bunch of little angry midgets on everyword i say
you're gonna put on too much fat
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Monster evidence of the king daddywaddy http://www.zspotlight.com/Gallery/Pictures.aspx?E=6823&view=2e59fd01-30b4-4f67-99a0-47bbdb3e191c
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Monster evidence of the king daddywaddy http://www.zspotlight.com/Gallery/Pictures.aspx?E=6823&view=2e59fd01-30b4-4f67-99a0-47bbdb3e191c
did you hit it brother?
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did you hit it brother?
not yet my son :( i will soon hahaha
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Diabetic coma here I come! Who gives a fuck if they chop off your feet as long as your forearms look like road maps?
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i bumped it to show daddywaddys arms were fucking monstrous. wtf happened
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i bumped it to show daddywaddys arms were fucking monstrous. wtf happened
haha i had a nice layer of fat at the time too i look much better now ripped up plus i look like a jacked justin timberlake, what girls like (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig1916sss.jpg)
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8000 calories = 6.15 pints of Haagen Dasz @2.79 each. That's $17 a day. I spend more than that on lunch.
And you wouldn't have to be eating constantly either. The average person could put doen two of them in a sitting without too much difficulty... breakfast, lunch, and dinner!
Yeah, but that will go straight to the toilet and expand the gut...
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Victor Richards said that he typically consummed 20,000-30,000 calories a day.
I bet he was eating 6500-8000.....maybe!
His an idiot who was to scared to compete
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I know a kid (20) who weighs around 240, competed in PL and now switched to strongman, and his diet (spelled our completely) is 4400 kcal exclusing dinner. And excluding the 4 cheat meals per week he is limiting himself to. So extrapolate that to someone who is 50% bigger and trains and competes fulltime, and I don't doubt 8000 is possible for a pro strongman.
Sigmarsson claims, in the recent movie about him, that he starts losing weight if he gets below 6000 kcal (IIRC).
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people like to believe in myths it gives them something to live vicariously through, its very common in children. And because of TV and internet, peoples myths are becoming bigger and bigger and more extreme.
Anyway...Daddywaddy, can you break it down for us. How many calories do you think a person who works during the day, types a bit on getbig.com and then works out for about 45 minutest at night, would need?. Its really confusing.
Also, how much protein do you think you need per pound of bodyweight if you want to grow and or if you just want to maintain what you have.?.
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people like to believe in myths it gives them something to live vicariously through, its very common in children. And because of TV and internet, peoples myths are becoming bigger and bigger and more extreme.
Anyway...Daddywaddy, can you break it down for us. How many calories do you think a person who works during the day, types a bit on getbig.com and then works out for about 45 minutest at night, would need?. Its really confusing.
Also, how much protein do you think you need per pound of bodyweight if you want to grow and or if you just want to maintain what you have.?.
the best diet would be raw eggs in protien shakes raw eggs have "choline" and "lipase" or liphase im not sure how to spell it but lipase is a fat burning enzyme in raw fats like avacados, same with raw sprouted almonds or nuts but are only activated if you soak them in water. any cooked meat is highly toxic and acidic and causes the body to relase white bloodcells this MUST be bufferd with raw baking soda in water DRINK IT dont be a pussy.
it is best to have no carbs
and not diet
as much protien , buffering agents and most importantly FATS will make you grow and lose fat..
i noticed i lose a tad bit of size if i eat carbs when dieting, because the fat is what powers our natural steroid hormones
i would also stay away from low carb icecreams and phosphoric acid in soda, and splenda these all make you acidic
and any sugars create and insulin spike, wich causes cell division and cell death, that means increased aging
i might buy some stevia today , its a natural non caloric sweetner i may try, because sometimes its nice to make food sweet and not feel guilty or knowing you are going to have to work it off
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the best diet would be raw eggs in protien shakes raw eggs have "choline" and "lipase" or liphase im not sure how to spell it but lipase is a fat burning enzyme in raw fats like avacados, same with raw sprouted almonds or nuts but are only activated if you soak them in water. any cooked meat is highly toxic and acidic and causes the body to relase white bloodcells this MUST be bufferd with raw baking soda in water DRINK IT dont be a pussy.
it is best to have no carbs
and not diet
as much protien , buffering agents and most importantly FATS will make you grow and lose fat..
i noticed i lose a tad bit of size if i eat carbs when dieting, because the fat is what powers our natural steroid hormones
i would also stay away from low carb icecreams and phosphoric acid in soda, and splenda these all make you acidic
and any sugars create and insulin spike, wich causes cell division and cell death, that means increased aging
i might buy some stevia today , its a natural non caloric sweetner i may try, because sometimes its nice to make food sweet and not feel guilty or knowing you are going to have to work it off
you are a genuis
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'i cant do it so it isnt possible'
thats the mentality of all of you saying it isnt possible to eat 8000+ calories a day.
add this up, then stick it up your skinny 160 pound, 2000 caloire a day asses.
2 boxes of kraft dinner
1 pound of lean hamburger
1 pound of boneless skinless chicken breast
6 small yogurt
6 bananas
6 pits shells
1 cup of cheddar cheese
4 liters of milk
6 scoops isolate pwoder
the only people who will say it isnt possible, are those who dont even look like they work out to begin with, which is probably 3/4 of those who post on this board.
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Your arms do look good in the above pose Daddy. Why do you post such bullshit? Seriously.
Because it's a photoshop !
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Because it's a photoshop !
Shhh! You are spoiling it for those who truly believe.
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Because it's a photoshop !
you are obviously a beginner and have never tried to put on weight by forcefeeding and getting fat
i was about 270 at 6feet6 was wearing 38 in the waist pants at the time , forcefeeding on carbs fat and everything beer too. sluggish as hell and would require 9 hours of sleep per night
now i am 219 this morning eating a totally different diet and only require 7 hours of sleep or night sometimes less
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Samuelsson doesn't eat 8500 calories and neither does anyone else, guys wayyyyyy overestimate how much they eat.
i know a couple of fatboys who easily eat over 10,000 calories a day. when your not eating clean its very easy to pile on the calories.
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When I was at my heaviest this year (265), I was eating 6000-6500 cal daily, clean.
I had (usually) 8 meals daily. 4 were chicken and rice or oatmeal, 4 were whey & 2 cups oatmeal blended in a shlke w 2 tbsp natural PB. I had a 9th meal @ 3 in the AM (2 scoops whey, 2 tbsp natural PB) when I'd get up to go to the bathroom.
It was sometimes hard to get that much food in, but luckily my job allows me to eat whenever I want.
When someone says they eat 8000-10,000 I don't necessarily doubt them outright, but I would HATE to follow them to the bathroom first thing in the morning!
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something i have noticed now that im really pounding the calories. ive actually cut back on weightlifting and upped the cardio because i tend to get sluggish feeling and sleepy after eating 7-8000 calories a day and cardio with all the sweat wakes me up and makes me feel better.
but my point is with all these calories im not doing the crazy high volume sets although high volume sets are not bad at all because they ensure you are breaking down the muscle and stimulating a maximum growth potential. but the thing is i dont do near as many sets but my strength has gone way up i can actually do about 8 sets of 315 never done anything like that in my life and incline curl 75 pound dumbells for easy reps.
its like you have to eat sooooooooooooo much junk food to fully saturate the muscle , for it to grow if its not fully saturated you wont gain strength as quickly. for me i pay attention to the scale i forefeed myself to make sure i gain 2 pounds everday , its probably 90 percent water weight but water makes up a muscle different fluids n such. i would probably gain even better if i did more training but tons of food makes me sluggish as hell and so after a bout of cardio i feel like 100 bucks!
translation: i'm back on cycle again and i'm about to get big and puffy so i better set the stage now so the deluded getbiggers will think it's the food and not the juice.
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seriously, ten thousand calories + just cardio?
all i can say is, you better be running marathons or you're going to be a very fat bastard.
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When I was at my heaviest this year (265), I was eating 6000-6500 cal daily, clean.
I had (usually) 8 meals daily. 4 were chicken and rice or oatmeal, 4 were whey & 2 cups oatmeal blended in a shlke w 2 tbsp natural PB. I had a 9th meal @ 3 in the AM (2 scoops whey, 2 tbsp natural PB) when I'd get up to go to the bathroom.
It was sometimes hard to get that much food in, but luckily my job allows me to eat whenever I want.
When someone says they eat 8000-10,000 I don't necessarily doubt them outright, but I would HATE to follow them to the bathroom first thing in the morning!
hahah i was taking some legendary shits
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exactly right and make no mistake 3500-4000 calories is A LOT of food, more than most guys think.
how much do you eat when u "bulk" fatass ?
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daddywaddy...in the pic with the beer your arm looks like 20 inches at least...what did your arm measured then ?
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i plan to average 10,000 calories a day in the near future, and be 350 pounds solid
What type of grear Waddy?
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The AMOUNT of food drugs is more important than Training
Fixed ;)
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god i love this site. ;D
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something i have noticed now that im really pounding the calories. ive actually cut back on weightlifting and upped the cardio because i tend to get sluggish feeling and sleepy after eating 7-8000 calories a day and cardio with all the sweat wakes me up and makes me feel better.
but my point is with all these calories im not doing the crazy high volume sets although high volume sets are not bad at all because they ensure you are breaking down the muscle and stimulating a maximum growth potential. but the thing is i dont do near as many sets but my strength has gone way up i can actually do about 8 sets of 315 never done anything like that in my life and incline curl 75 pound dumbells for easy reps.
its like you have to eat sooooooooooooo much junk food to fully saturate the muscle , for it to grow if its not fully saturated you wont gain strength as quickly. for me i pay attention to the scale i forefeed myself to make sure i gain 2 pounds everday , its probably 90 percent water weight but water makes up a muscle different fluids n such. i would probably gain even better if i did more training but tons of food makes me sluggish as hell and so after a bout of cardio i feel like 100 bucks!
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No... genetics ... is... I eat 2 meals a day... and at this moment i have a pretty decent physique
a lot of people over complicate this.. all this foolishness with carbs and i must take in this amount of grams... of protein....per day or i wont grow nonsense... or i eat six meals a day ..crap... that i feel is for professional bbers...my whole phsique was built on very hard training and genes... people like to over complicate things because they dont want to face the real truth.. genes genes genes its all about genes if you have to eat 6 meals a day to have 17 inch arms ... then you're in the wrong hobby.. for me trainin is a life long thing... what i do now is what i will be doing in my 40's no way would i be eating 6 ,meals a day and drinking 2 gallons of water all that foolishness life long.. so whats the point starting it.. a lot of average trainers do it because they think it make them look hardcore
nonsense...
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No... genetics ... is... I eat 2 meals a day... and at this moment i have a pretty decent physique
a lot of people over complicate this.. all this foolishness with carbs and i must take in this amount of grams... of protein....per day or i wont grow nonsense... or i eat six meals a day ..crap... that i feel is for professional bbers...my whole phsique was built on very hard training and genes... people like to over complicate things because they dont want to face the real truth.. genes genes genes its all about genes if you have to eat 6 meals a day to have 17 inch arms ... then you're in the wrong hobby.. for me trainin is a life long thing... what i do now is what i will be doing in my 40's no way would i be eating 6 ,meals a day and drinking 2 gallons of water all that foolishness life long.. so whats the point starting it.. a lot of average trainers do it because they think it make them look hardcore
nonsense...
Ya, but we're not all genetic elite so we have to make do. My genetics are shit but I still like looking good and being healthy. People with better genetics than me still look worse if their training and diet are bad.
I agree things get overcomplicated by some, but I like eating frequently. I don't like eating lots in one sitting and I'm usually hungry again 3 hours later, so it suits me.
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hahah i was taking some legendary shits
Ah, the tales they could tell...
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No... genetics ... is... I eat 2 meals a day... and at this moment i have a pretty decent physique
a lot of people over complicate this.. all this foolishness with carbs and i must take in this amount of grams... of protein....per day or i wont grow nonsense... or i eat six meals a day ..crap... that i feel is for professional bbers...my whole phsique was built on very hard training and genes... people like to over complicate things because they dont want to face the real truth.. genes genes genes its all about genes if you have to eat 6 meals a day to have 17 inch arms ... then you're in the wrong hobby.. for me trainin is a life long thing... what i do now is what i will be doing in my 40's no way would i be eating 6 ,meals a day and drinking 2 gallons of water all that foolishness life long.. so whats the point starting it.. a lot of average trainers do it because they think it make them look hardcore
nonsense...
the will to workout, to have that personality type, trying to be the best can be related to genetics. alot dont have this types of traits in there genetic profile and have no confidence, also uncreative people fail too because they quit and see only one way and are ignorant to try a different or radical even diets
our actual heights is genetics, but untrained sedentary individuals have roughly the same muscle mass
everyone untrained is nearly equally weak unless they have high bodyfat and then they would be pretty strong, this all comes down to food
we all have the ability to put on size up to a point and its all fairly the same for us naturals. just look at mr getbig comp , no one is really that much bigger than the next guy proportion wise , the shorter guys are just as filled out as the taller guys of course any taller dude is 'bigger' but in terms of bodybuilding nearly the same... i dont even see how they judge pro bodybuilding comps when all dudes are equally huge, and we all should know that if one competitor has been constantly pumping up his chest for weeks and weeks and focusing mainly on that he will have the best tightest fullest chest but will be lagging in other bodyparts. or a guy that trains mainly arms will have the most pumped up loaded with triglicerides and carbs full to the max deiselfied arms.
strength is all about leverages or steroids
just look at jesse marunde were i had my photo next to his we are nearly the same size yet the dude is 2 times my strenght on sholder pressing movements, so therefore the dude should look 2 times bigger in all areas but its nothing like that, its all drug induced strength same with his front double bicep pose on his page looks very puny
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Ya, but we're not all genetic elite so we have to make do. My genetics are shit but I still like looking good and being healthy. People with better genetics than me still look worse if their training and diet are bad.
I agree things get overcomplicated by some, but I like eating frequently. I don't like eating lots in one sitting and I'm usually hungry again 3 hours later, so it suits me.
wsup tape.. i hear you... but this i will tell you i have trained with a few people.. many people who ask to train with me.. and it has completely changed the way the appraoached their training.. trust me i know what i am talkin about.. here... i started training with12 inch arms... ive put nearly 7 inches on them hard and at a very very low bf.. and my arms to me lag behind my chest and back..while still havin the same waist size as when i was in high school.. between 29 and 31 all this totally due to training... unless you are a pro bber why would anyone want to eat 6 meals a day?... i have never dieted or eaten over 3 meals ever..counted carbs or anything like that..believe me proper training is key obviously you have to eat... but a lot of people over do it.. I think
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wsup tape.. i hear you... but this i will tell you i have trained with a few people.. many people who ask to train with me.. and it has completely changed the way the appraoached their training.. trust me i know what i am talkin about.. here... i started training with12 inch arms... ive put nearly 7 inches on them hard and at a very very low bf.. and my arms to me lag behind my chest and back..while still havin the same waist size as when i was in high school.. between 29 and 31 all this totally due to training... unless you are a pro bber why would anyone want to eat 6 meals a day?... i have never dieted or eaten over 3 meals ever..counted carbs or anything like that..believe me proper training is key obviously you have to eat... but a lot of people over do it.. I think
Your progress is much better than mine. No way I've put 7 inches on my arms. Maybe it's your genetics or maybe it's your training. In either case, I'd like to hear some more about your approach. Rep ranges, rest periods, rep count, intensity techniques, whole body vs split, compound vs isolation, incorporating cardio, etc. I'm grateful for any insight, and sure other guys would be too.
Besides, you're directly contradicting DW's thread title, so I can't argue with ya. ;D
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the best diet would be raw eggs in protien shakes raw eggs have "choline" and "lipase" or liphase im not sure how to spell it but lipase is a fat burning enzyme in raw fats like avacados, same with raw sprouted almonds or nuts but are only activated if you soak them in water. any cooked meat is highly toxic and acidic and causes the body to relase white bloodcells this MUST be bufferd with raw baking soda in water DRINK IT dont be a pussy.
it is best to have no carbs
and not diet
as much protien , buffering agents and most importantly FATS will make you grow and lose fat..
i noticed i lose a tad bit of size if i eat carbs when dieting, because the fat is what powers our natural steroid hormones
i would also stay away from low carb icecreams and phosphoric acid in soda, and splenda these all make you acidic
and any sugars create and insulin spike, wich causes cell division and cell death, that means increased aging
i might buy some stevia today , its a natural non caloric sweetner i may try, because sometimes its nice to make food sweet and not feel guilty or knowing you are going to have to work it off
I agree with this and have noticed changes in the morning from eating raw eggs before bed but never knew why.
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I agree with this and have noticed changes in the morning from eating raw eggs before bed but never knew why.
i remember years ago i tried this but i would boil the egg for ten seconds and then take out the yolks. apparently if you have them totally raw they are very hard to digest and the aviden in the raw eggs kills biotin (b vitamin). also an issue of salmonella.
i used to have heaps and seemingly always had issues with diarrhoea and the most shocking smell. anyway, i carried it to it's conclusion one day when i made up over 12 egg whites like this and drank them. i was pretty sick after.
could be that i simply had too many and the issue was simply digestion, but i have read that if the egg is not cooked at a certain heat digestion is a problem. :-\ dunno, gironda was a big fan so maybe waddy's on to something. maybe it's just a case of less eggs.
as far as the food first theory, i don't buy it personally, but then i don't pretend to know everything on the issue of muscular development.
i feel that waddy is setting the stage to explain his muscle gain from the steroid cycle he's currently on. i could be wrong but i justr don't buy this guy losing and gaining the amount of muscle mass he seems to in such a short period of time. it just don't go like that and going from next fuck all calorie (bottle of gatorade a day) to 10000 calories is going to make you nothing but a fat ass with a very bad constitution. :-X
it would be a digestive disaster and the body wouldn't cope. as for the metabolism? anyone that knows anything about this subject knows that this is the most disingenuous and irresponsible advice one can give, no matter how much lsd or hydro one inhales.
as i said, i could be wrong though so anyone stupid enough to try this natural please let us know the results.
meso has the best advice on the subject imo. the body aint going to change unless you give it a damn good reason to ie training intensity.
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I ate 4450kcal everyday when I was bulking, and that was at a bw of 165 lol.
sometimes over 5000 when I ate a snack at night =)
but thats 3 gainers also though,
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i remember years ago i tried this but i would boil the egg for ten seconds and then take out the yolks. apparently if you have them totally raw they are very hard to digest and the aviden in the raw eggs kills biotin (b vitamin). also an issue of salmonella.
i used to have heaps and seemingly always had issues with diarrhoea and the most shocking smell. anyway, i carried it to it's conclusion one day when i made up over 12 egg whites like this and drank them. i was pretty sick after.
could be that i simply had too many and the issue was simply digestion, but i have read that if the egg is not cooked at a certain heat digestion is a problem. :-\ dunno, gironda was a big fan so maybe waddy's on to something. maybe it's just a case of less eggs.
as far as the food first theory, i don't buy it personally, but then i don't pretend to know everything on the issue of muscular development.
i feel that waddy is setting the stage to explain his muscle gain from the steroid cycle he's currently on. i could be wrong but i justr don't buy this guy losing and gaining the amount of muscle mass he seems to in such a short period of time. it just don't go like that and going from next fuck all calorie (bottle of gatorade a day) to 10000 calories is going to make you nothing but a fat ass with a very bad constitution. :-X
it would be a digestive disaster and the body wouldn't cope. as for the metabolism? anyone that knows anything about this subject knows that this is the most disingenuous and irresponsible advice one can give, no matter how much lsd or hydro one inhales.
as i said, i could be wrong though so anyone stupid enough to try this natural please let us know the results.
meso has the best advice on the subject imo. the body aint going to change unless you give it a damn good reason to ie training intensity.
stop being so jealous first off then your mind will open
anyone can eat a ton then diet the very next day. if i feel a bulking diet or cutting diet is not working right ill drastically change everything. or change a little, you have to experiment ive never had blotchy skin or signs of roid use, sorry to make you feel bad but youve never tried bulking or gaining weight
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stop being so jealous first off then your mind will open
anyone can eat a ton then diet the very next day. if i feel a bulking diet or cutting diet is not working right ill drastically change everything. or change a little, you have to experiment ive never had blotchy skin or signs of roid use, sorry to make you feel bad but youve never tried bulking or gaining weight
by the way its retarted to try to bulk with high carbs, youll get the same result everytime, wayy too much water retention and wayyy too much fat gain. so why repeat the process, of course i have like a dumbass before
its much more intellegent to bulk on fat then protien this way you minimize insulin and water retention then the only thing left is too many calories
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I did around 7000+ calories a day for a couple of weeks. At first Cardio and weight sessions went way up. But after some weeks energy dropped and I started to feel tired, didn't sleep that well. So went back down to around 4000 calories where I'm at now and strength remains morning cardio is ok as well, but this is cutting diet for me.
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i remember years ago i tried this but i would boil the egg for ten seconds and then take out the yolks. apparently if you have them totally raw they are very hard to digest and the aviden in the raw eggs kills biotin (b vitamin). also an issue of salmonella.
i used to have heaps and seemingly always had issues with diarrhoea and the most shocking smell. anyway, i carried it to it's conclusion one day when i made up over 12 egg whites like this and drank them. i was pretty sick after.
could be that i simply had too many and the issue was simply digestion, but i have read that if the egg is not cooked at a certain heat digestion is a problem. :-\ dunno, gironda was a big fan so maybe waddy's on to something. maybe it's just a case of less eggs.
as far as the food first theory, i don't buy it personally, but then i don't pretend to know everything on the issue of muscular development.
i feel that waddy is setting the stage to explain his muscle gain from the steroid cycle he's currently on. i could be wrong but i justr don't buy this guy losing and gaining the amount of muscle mass he seems to in such a short period of time. it just don't go like that and going from next fuck all calorie (bottle of gatorade a day) to 10000 calories is going to make you nothing but a fat ass with a very bad constitution. :-X
it would be a digestive disaster and the body wouldn't cope. as for the metabolism? anyone that knows anything about this subject knows that this is the most disingenuous and irresponsible advice one can give, no matter how much lsd or hydro one inhales.
as i said, i could be wrong though so anyone stupid enough to try this natural please let us know the results.
meso has the best advice on the subject imo. the body aint going to change unless you give it a damn good reason to ie training intensity.
Yes, I've been told that the biotin in the yolks counteracts the aviden in the whites but yolks don't have enough biotin, so it could draw biotin from your body causing a deficiency.
I've never had any problems eating upto a dozen whole raw eggs a day, but it sounds like you were eating a lot more.
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Yes, I've been told that the biotin in the yolks counteracts the aviden in the whites but yolks don't have enough biotin, so it could draw biotin from your body causing a deficiency.
I've never had any problems eating upto a dozen whole raw eggs a day, but it sounds like you were eating a lot more.
thanks for the info. i might have to slowly introduce a few back into the diet.
waddy, what you are advocating on this thread, 'amt of food more important than training', is ludicrous. it really makes no sense whatsoever and for a natural trainee to attempt to consume up to 10000 calories a day would be a disaster. he would get nothing but fat, but then you already know that. ;)
the fact that you are an attention whore does not make you an expert or honest for that matter. indeed, you have already been exposed as a liar and more than a little deluded, if not greatly affected by some of the drugs you take.
i don't have anything against you per se. i think you have a good physique, but i'm not an idiot and, being the attention whore you are, you have already posted pics of a waddy that looks like your much less muscular little brother. a waddy that is not going to suddenly become more cut and 30lbs more massive (due, apparently, to ingesting more food and just doing cardio ::))
i've been around long enough to know bs when i sense it and, a few cups of gaterade per day one minute to 10000 calories per day the next as an explanation of your sudden size surges absolutely reeks of it, but i'll give you a pass because you are obviously taking in some seriously mind altering drugs along with the juice.
take it or leave it waddy. it's my opinion, as you are entitled to assume whatever you wish about me also. it's all good. :)
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thanks for the info. i might have to slowly introduce a few back into the diet.
waddy, what you are advocating on this thread, 'amt of food more important than training', is ludicrous. it really makes no sense whatsoever and for a natural trainee to attempt to consume up to 10000 calories a day would be a disaster. he would get nothing but fat, but then you already know that. ;)
the fact that you are an attention whore does not make you an expert or honest for that matter. indeed, you have already been exposed as a liar and more than a little deluded, if not greatly affected by some of the drugs you take.
i don't have anything against you per se. i think you have a good physique, but i'm not an idiot and, being the attention whore you are, you have already posted pics of a waddy that looks like your much less muscular little brother. a waddy that is not going to suddenly become more cut and 30lbs more massive (due, apparently, to ingesting more food and just doing cardio ::))
i've been around long enough to know bs when i sense it and, a few cups of gaterade per day one minute to 10000 calories per day the next as an explanation of your sudden size surges absolutely reeks of it, but i'll give you a pass because you are obviously taking in some seriously mind altering drugs along with the juice.
take it or leave it waddy. it's my opinion, as you are entitled to assume whatever you wish about me also. it's all good. :)
if you are going to eat alot , YOU MUST DO LEGENDARY WORKOUTS TO COMPENSATE meaning a full body workout with 1 hour of cardio and 2 hours of weights to 'make up' or break even fatloss/fatgain if you had 6000-10,000 the previous day
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How does your workout-regimen looks like these days?
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Wassup Waddy