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"Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« on: May 15, 2012, 04:36:02 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-exclusive-zimmerman-medical-report-shows-broken-204911351--abc-news-topstories.html

hmmm, more corroborating evidence...

"A medical report compiled by the family physician of accused Trayvon Martin murderer George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation"

"The record shows that Zimmerman also suffered bruising in the upper lip and cheek and lower back pain. The two lacerations on the back of his head, one of them nearly an inch long, the other about a quarter-inch long"

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2012, 04:37:18 PM »
Bullshit. 240 will tell you that he learned on MSDNC that these are all lies.

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2012, 04:49:40 PM »
In before 240 or Bullshit.

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2012, 05:39:47 PM »
Uh oh.

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2012, 06:05:24 PM »
Wait, ill do it for him -

No proof that Trayvon caused it, could have headbutted his truck and fell on the concrete after shooting Trayvon to cover himself.
Oh, and the witness' that saw Trayvon on top only proves that he was losing.

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2012, 06:09:12 PM »
Is this why we aren't hearing so much about this anymore?  We are seeing that trayvon was or may been assaulting Zimmerman and there is evidence to say he was?

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2012, 06:17:37 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-exclusive-zimmerman-medical-report-shows-broken-204911351--abc-news-topstories.html

hmmm, more corroborating evidence...

"A medical report compiled by the family physician of accused Trayvon Martin murderer George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation"

"The record shows that Zimmerman also suffered bruising in the upper lip and cheek and lower back pain. The two lacerations on the back of his head, one of them nearly an inch long, the other about a quarter-inch long"


Yea, Fox News reported the same story.  No doubt that he got his ass beat but if someone had a gun pointed at you, then who wouldn't fight tooth and nail?????


Lets see what CNN is reporting....... ;D

(CNN) -- Prosecutors released a summary of evidence Tuesday in the case against neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, who is accused of second-degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin.

The eight-page document released to the public contains a list of possible witnesses and law enforcement reports that could be used in the prosecution's case against Zimmerman.

But it doesn't include details from those statements or reports, and contains no new revelations about the case, which sparked nationwide protests and reflection on race relations and gun laws in the United States.

The document is part of the routine exchange of information between prosecutors and defense attorneys that occurs before trials.

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara said Monday on the website set up to release information from Zimmerman's side that his office had received "67 compact discs and numerous hardcopy documents" from prosecutors, including many of the records and statements mentioned in the summary.

"Please remember and understand that it is inappropriate for us to comment on particular pieces of evidence," O'Mara said in the website statement.

Zimmerman, 28, is accused of killing Martin on February 26 as the African-American teenager walked back to the Sanford, Florida, house where he was staying, after visiting a convenience store. Prosecutors have said Zimmerman, who is a white Hispanic, killed Martin unjustly after profiling him.

Zimmerman, who acknowledges shooting Martin but claims self-defense, has entered a not guilty plea in the case, which has not yet been scheduled for trial.

A timeline of the case against George Zimmerman

The document lists 50 possible law enforcement witnesses, including 28 officers from the 140-member Sanford Police Department. It also lists 28 civilian witnesses, including Martin's brother, mother and father, two of Zimmerman's friends -- Joe Oliver and Frank Taffe -- and his father, Robert Zimmerman.

Prosecutors did not give names for 22 other potential civilian witnesses.

Attorneys have previously expressed concern about publicly identifying some witnesses who may fear retribution for their roles in the case, which has inflamed passions among supporters of both Martin and Zimmerman.

At least one of the witness interviews was conducted by Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump, according to the document.

Evidence taken from Zimmerman after the shooting, including his weapon, bullets, clothes, a DNA sample, medical records and his cell phone data were also included in the disclosure to defense attorneys, according to the document.

The document indicates that police technicians in biological and DNA evidence, trace evidence, gunshot residue, fingerprints and firearms may testify, along with two FBI agents, as well as two audio technicians who analyzed emergency calls made during the confrontation between Zimmerman and Martin in an effort to determine who was heard screaming in the background.

Experts Tom Owen and Edward Primeau concluded that the screams did not come from Zimmerman, who told police that Martin rushed him after they exchanged words, knocked him to the ground and repeatedly hit his head against the concrete sidewalk.

Martin, who lived in Miami, died after a chance encounter with Zimmerman in the gated community where he was staying with his father during a suspension from school.

Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious person walking on the streets of the neighborhood, which had been struck by several burglaries in recent months.

Prosecutors say he disregarded a dispatcher's advice not to follow the person, who turned out to be Martin, and shot him after a confrontation minutes later.

While Zimmerman supporters have characterized him as a well-meaning neighborhood watch volunteer who was only trying to protect his community, Martin's family and supporters have said he unfairly profiled Martin as a troublemaker just because he was an African-American teenager walking down the street wearing a hoodie.

Sanford police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman, saying there was no evidence to contradict Zimmerman's claim of self-defense under Florida's "stand your ground" law, which allows people to use deadly force anywhere they feel a reasonable threat of serious injury or death.

After weeks of protests demanding Zimmerman's arrest, a special prosecutor appointed by Florida Gov. Rick Scott filed the second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman. He was arrested April 11 and briefly jailed. He has returned to hiding after his release on a 150,000 bond
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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2012, 06:33:34 PM »
I dont understand how people that werent even there can be called as witness', unless its simply for character reference.
In which case, I cant understand how the parents (Martins) are going to be honest.

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2012, 06:39:06 PM »
He took quite an ass whooping after chasing an unarmed minor for 2 blocks, yes.   

Trayvon wasn't one of the a-hole home burglars, as he was profiled to be by ZImmerman, based upon whatever factors I can't imagine.

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 06:41:22 PM »
I dont understand how people that werent even there can be called as witness', unless its simply for character reference.
In which case, I cant understand how the parents (Martins) are going to be honest.


Why would they not be honest...wouldn't serve no purpose as they've already suffered the worse fate...having their only son murdered.  Defense definitely isn't going to cross examine as it will piss off the jury.  However, its not going to trial...it will likely be pleaded out
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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 07:02:17 PM »

Why would they not be honest...wouldn't serve no purpose as they've already suffered the worse fate...having their only son murdered.  Defense definitely isn't going to cross examine as it will piss off the jury.  However, its not going to trial...it will likely be pleaded out
Yes, we get it, you keep saying it.
He pleaded not guilty dingus, its going to trial.

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2012, 07:49:08 PM »

Yea, Fox News reported the same story.  No doubt that he got his ass beat but if someone had a gun pointed at you, then who wouldn't fight tooth and nail?????


Lets see what CNN is reporting....... ;D

(CNN) -- Prosecutors released a summary of evidence Tuesday in the case against neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, who is accused of second-degree murder in the death of Trayvon Martin.

The eight-page document released to the public contains a list of possible witnesses and law enforcement reports that could be used in the prosecution's case against Zimmerman.

But it doesn't include details from those statements or reports, and contains no new revelations about the case, which sparked nationwide protests and reflection on race relations and gun laws in the United States.

The document is part of the routine exchange of information between prosecutors and defense attorneys that occurs before trials.

Defense attorney Mark O'Mara said Monday on the website set up to release information from Zimmerman's side that his office had received "67 compact discs and numerous hardcopy documents" from prosecutors, including many of the records and statements mentioned in the summary.

"Please remember and understand that it is inappropriate for us to comment on particular pieces of evidence," O'Mara said in the website statement.

Zimmerman, 28, is accused of killing Martin on February 26 as the African-American teenager walked back to the Sanford, Florida, house where he was staying, after visiting a convenience store. Prosecutors have said Zimmerman, who is a white Hispanic, killed Martin unjustly after profiling him.

Zimmerman, who acknowledges shooting Martin but claims self-defense, has entered a not guilty plea in the case, which has not yet been scheduled for trial.

A timeline of the case against George Zimmerman

The document lists 50 possible law enforcement witnesses, including 28 officers from the 140-member Sanford Police Department. It also lists 28 civilian witnesses, including Martin's brother, mother and father, two of Zimmerman's friends -- Joe Oliver and Frank Taffe -- and his father, Robert Zimmerman.

Prosecutors did not give names for 22 other potential civilian witnesses.

Attorneys have previously expressed concern about publicly identifying some witnesses who may fear retribution for their roles in the case, which has inflamed passions among supporters of both Martin and Zimmerman.

At least one of the witness interviews was conducted by Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump, according to the document.

Evidence taken from Zimmerman after the shooting, including his weapon, bullets, clothes, a DNA sample, medical records and his cell phone data were also included in the disclosure to defense attorneys, according to the document.

The document indicates that police technicians in biological and DNA evidence, trace evidence, gunshot residue, fingerprints and firearms may testify, along with two FBI agents, as well as two audio technicians who analyzed emergency calls made during the confrontation between Zimmerman and Martin in an effort to determine who was heard screaming in the background.

Experts Tom Owen and Edward Primeau concluded that the screams did not come from Zimmerman, who told police that Martin rushed him after they exchanged words, knocked him to the ground and repeatedly hit his head against the concrete sidewalk.

Martin, who lived in Miami, died after a chance encounter with Zimmerman in the gated community where he was staying with his father during a suspension from school.

Zimmerman called police to report a suspicious person walking on the streets of the neighborhood, which had been struck by several burglaries in recent months.

Prosecutors say he disregarded a dispatcher's advice not to follow the person, who turned out to be Martin, and shot him after a confrontation minutes later.

While Zimmerman supporters have characterized him as a well-meaning neighborhood watch volunteer who was only trying to protect his community, Martin's family and supporters have said he unfairly profiled Martin as a troublemaker just because he was an African-American teenager walking down the street wearing a hoodie.

Sanford police initially declined to arrest Zimmerman, saying there was no evidence to contradict Zimmerman's claim of self-defense under Florida's "stand your ground" law, which allows people to use deadly force anywhere they feel a reasonable threat of serious injury or death.

After weeks of protests demanding Zimmerman's arrest, a special prosecutor appointed by Florida Gov. Rick Scott filed the second-degree murder charge against Zimmerman. He was arrested April 11 and briefly jailed. He has returned to hiding after his release on a 150,000 bond
any proof what so ever that zimmerman pointed a gun at trayvon before the altercation started?

NOOO

so what youre saying is that the information released corroborates zimmermans story and still gives the prosecution no evidence?

nice...

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2012, 07:50:02 PM »
He took quite an ass whooping after chasing an unarmed minor for 2 blocks, yes.   

Trayvon wasn't one of the a-hole home burglars, as he was profiled to be by ZImmerman, based upon whatever factors I can't imagine.
to bad keeping an eye on someone isnt a crime or that might matter ;)

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2012, 08:11:12 PM »
to bad keeping an eye on someone isnt a crime or that might matter ;)

"He's running away".   Yeah, I clearly see Trayvon as the aggressor in this situation. 

The shoot itself was legal but because Zimm did everything he could to cause a confrontation, he shall be pleading and getting 8 years in prison.  Watch and see.

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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2012, 08:31:06 PM »
"He's running away".   Yeah, I clearly see Trayvon as the aggressor in this situation. 

The shoot itself was legal but because Zimm did everything he could to cause a confrontation, he shall be pleading and getting 8 years in prison.  Watch and see.
what part of keeping an eye on someone is illegal again? I forgot...

still no proof of any crimes eh?


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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2012, 08:32:43 PM »
what part of keeping an eye on someone is illegal again? I forgot...

still no proof of any crimes eh

Trayvon was an unarmed kid who was chased for 2 blocks by an older man with a gun, while calling him profane names and accusing him of crimes.

We know what the prosecutor said.  Let's see what the jury says.

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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2012, 08:39:01 PM »
Trayvon was an unarmed kid who was chased for 2 blocks by an older man with a gun, while calling him profane names and accusing him of crimes.

We know what the prosecutor said.  Let's see what the jury says.
and what part of that is illegal? I forget...

so still no proof of any crimes eh?

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2012, 08:40:36 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-exclusive-zimmerman-medical-report-shows-broken-204911351--abc-news-topstories.html

hmmm, more corroborating evidence...

"A medical report compiled by the family physician of accused Trayvon Martin murderer George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation"
"The record shows that Zimmerman also suffered bruising in the upper lip and cheek and lower back pain. The two lacerations on the back of his head, one of them nearly an inch long, the other about a quarter-inch long"

sounds like injuries he might get during a fight

does anyone dispute the Zimmerman was in a fight with Martin?

 

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2012, 08:41:57 PM »
sounds like injuries he might get during a fight

does anyone dispute the Zimmerman was in a fight with Martin?
I believe you have said that his injuries dont prove anything, that he could have done that to himself...

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2012, 08:49:03 PM »
I believe you have said that his injuries dont prove anything, that he could have done that to himself...

I never said he harmed himself intentially

I did give many ways he could have scraped his head

I did say his injuries aren't proof of his story beyond the fact that he and TM had a physical altercation that ended in Zimmerman shooting Martin

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2012, 08:57:21 PM »
I never said he harmed himself intentially

I did give many ways he could have scraped his head

I did say his injuries aren't proof of his story beyond the fact that he and TM had a physical altercation that ended in Zimmerman shooting Martin
you also said that, there was no proof he was even injured or that his injuries were life threatening.

This lends credence to his statement that he believed his life to be in danger, no?

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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2012, 09:06:50 PM »
you also said that, there was no proof he was even injured or that his injuries were life threatening.
This lends credence to his statement that he believed his life to be in danger, no?

I've never seen any proof fo these two black eyes so hopefully the cops too some photos (weird how we haven't seen them yet)

and none of his claimed injuries sound even remotely life threatening


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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2012, 09:15:35 PM »
I've never seen any proof fo these two black eyes so hopefully the cops too some photos (weird how we haven't seen them yet)

and none of his claimed injuries sound even remotely life threatening



Haha, I love posts like this. Apparently Zimmerman was supposed to analyze the extent of his injuries in the middle of a fight while getting his head smashed on the concrete and determine whether they were life threatening or not.

Out of curiosity, do you realize how fucking stupid you sound?

He took quite an ass whooping after chasing an unarmed minor for 2 blocks, yes.   

Trayvon wasn't one of the a-hole home burglars, as he was profiled to be by ZImmerman, based upon whatever factors I can't imagine.

Following isn't chasing. Are you still trying to play word games after getting bitch slapped all over this topic last month?

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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2012, 09:27:14 PM »
Haha, I love posts like this. Apparently Zimmerman was supposed to analyze the extent of his injuries in the middle of a fight while getting his head smashed on the concrete and determine whether they were life threatening or not.
Out of curiosity, do you realize how fucking stupid you sound?

Following isn't chasing. Are you still trying to play word games after getting bitch slapped all over this topic last month?

I'd settle for some post fight pics of the two black eyes but again that would only support what everyone agrees on, that these two guys had a fight

it's been a few months now so i'm sure they've come back from the photo lab


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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2012, 12:28:14 AM »
He must have punched himself in the nose too.