Author Topic: Supreme Court Upholds Individual Mandate (Read 14298 times)

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #1 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:25:26 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on June 28, 2012, 07:24:50 AM

Legacy of George W Bush is cemented.

motherfucking piece of shit.

240 is Back · « **Reply #2 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:28:37 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on June 28, 2012, 07:25:26 AM

Legacy of George W Bush is cemented.

motherfucking piece of shit.

Ah, you mean the justices he picked ended up being the ones that now made this bill permanent?

My guess is that the justices threw out the law - and instead decided our society/economy will soon collapse - so just sign up everyone for the same healthcare.

This benefits romney - now he has a rallying cry. doesnt benefit americans tho.

Option D · « **Reply #3 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:31:02 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on June 28, 2012, 07:24:50 AM

3333 JUST JUMPED

garebear · « **Reply #4 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:32:26 AM »

Obama gonna win.

Haters gonna hate.

Fury · « **Reply #5 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:34:52 AM »

Haha, America's financial collapse confirmed. Bankruptcy inevitable.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #6 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:36:59 AM »

Quote from: Option D on June 28, 2012, 07:31:02 AM

3333 JUST JUMPED

victory for obama = oppression for everyone else.

Option D · « **Reply #7 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:37:26 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on June 28, 2012, 07:36:59 AM

victory for obama = oppression for everyone else.

Except hella rich people...

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #8 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:38:32 AM »

Quote from: Option D on June 28, 2012, 07:37:26 AM

Except hella rich people...

whatever - anyone cheering this one exposes themselves for what they are.

James · « **Reply #9 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:38:53 AM »

They are saying it is constitutional because one is not forced to comply with the mandate. You can refuse to comply and pay a tax instead. And taxes are not unconstitutional when imposed by Congress. So they are saying it is ok to be forced to pay a tax so long as you are not being forced to comply with a mandate. Crazy

garebear · « **Reply #10 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:39:39 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on June 28, 2012, 07:38:32 AM

whatever - anyone cheering this one exposes themselves for what they are.

A believer in our Constitution?

US Const: 'The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States

Yes, I support the American constitution. You don't, because you hate America.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #11 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:40:00 AM »

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/11pdf/11-393c3a2.pdf

Here is the decision.

whork · « **Reply #12 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:41:47 AM »

Quote from: James on June 28, 2012, 07:38:53 AM

They are saying it is constitutional because one is not forced to comply with the mandate. You can refuse to comply and pay a tax instead. And taxes are not unconstitutional when imposed by Congress. So they are saying it is ok to be forced to pay a tax so long as you are not being forced to comply with a mandate. Crazy

Doesnt our taxes pay for bombs in Iraq, Afghanistan etc?
And now people are freaking out its being used for HEALTHCARE.
Am i missing something here?

dario73 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:42:47 AM »

What's the point of the Constitution?

Mind as well wipe our collective rear ends with it and flush it down the toilet. That is what happened today.

Hello, never ending deficit, third world medical treatment, long lines at the hospital, and european style socialism. YEAHHHHHHHH!!!

240 is Back · « **Reply #14 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:46:04 AM »

Quote from: dario73 on June 28, 2012, 07:42:47 AM

What's the point of the Constitution?

Mind as well wipe our collective rear ends with it and flush it down the toilet. That is what happened today.

Hello, never ending deficit, third world medical treatment, long lines at the hospital, and european style socialism. YEAHHHHHHHH!!!

constitution says 'congress has the right to regulate commerce'.

i guess that now means that they can force commerce upon people who are not yet engaged in it.

Romney said it was okay on the state level, and now SCOTUS (Roberts, bush apointee) says it is okay on the nat'l level. Repubs fingerprints all over this baby.

dario73 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:46:40 AM »

Quote from: garebear on June 28, 2012, 07:39:39 AM

A believer in our Constitution?

US Const: 'The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States

Yes, I support the American constitution. You don't, because you hate America.

Did the white house even make a clear case if it was a tax or a penalty? They weren't even sure of it, but somehow this Supreme Court is able to make the distinction.

If it's a tax, then guess what? Anyone under $250k a year, who doesn't buy insurance, will get "taxed". I think Obama just broke another one of his promises.

whork · « **Reply #16 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:48:14 AM »

Quote from: dario73 on June 28, 2012, 07:42:47 AM

What's the point of the Constitution?

Mind as well wipe our collective rear ends with it and flush it down the toilet. That is what happened today.

Hello, never ending deficit, third world medical treatment, long lines at the hospital, and european style socialism. YEAHHHHHHHH!!!

Yes Europe has crap health care

James · « **Reply #17 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:52:35 AM »

Quote from: whork on June 28, 2012, 07:41:47 AM

Doesnt our taxes pay for bombs in Iraq, Afghanistan etc?
And now people are freaking out its being used for HEALTHCARE.
Am i missing something here?

Remember Obama said the penalty for not purchasing Health Insurance was not a Tax, but it was a penalty, well the SCOUTS said it is a Tax.

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #18 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:53:58 AM »

Boehner is somewhere crying his eyes over this.

dario73 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:54:37 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on June 28, 2012, 07:46:04 AM

constitution says 'congress has the right to regulate commerce'.

i guess that now means that they can force commerce upon people who are not yet engaged in it.

Romney said it was okay on the state level, and now SCOTUS (Roberts, bush apointee) says it is okay on the nat'l level. Repubs fingerprints all over this baby.

They don't have a right to make you buy a certain product. Including health insurance.

This convoluted decision by the justices upholding obamacare doesn't make any sense. This is scary.

I give up.

Forget the Constitution. It's pure bs. They are not upholding it, they are constantly amending it to the point that it's original intentions have been lost.

From now on it will be the government and judges over the people's will.

Fury · « **Reply #20 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:57:35 AM »

Quote from: whork on June 28, 2012, 07:48:14 AM

Yes Europe has crap health care

When the British have to issue a directive telling their nurses to give their patients water due to dozens of people dying from dehydration then you have a problem with your healthcare.

Not that it matters as soon enough there won't be any money to pay for Obamacare anyway.

James · « **Reply #21 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:57:51 AM »

Ron Paul is going to give his opinion in a few minutes:

http://www.iheart.com/live/2285/?autoplay=true

dario73 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 28, 2012, 07:58:29 AM »

Quote from: whork on June 28, 2012, 07:48:14 AM

Yes Europe has crap health care

Oh yea. Their health care is so much better than ours. And their economy has always been better.

Get the hell out of here you idiot. If you don't like personal freedom that is a big personal problem that you have to live with. Why don't you move to Europe?

James · « **Reply #23 on:** June 28, 2012, 08:13:21 AM »

As much as I dislike Mitt Romney. He is our only chance of getting rid of this Obama-nation now. He claims that if elected he will exempt everybody from the requirements by granting a universal waiver.

Fury · « **Reply #24 on:** June 28, 2012, 08:15:07 AM »

Quote from: James on June 28, 2012, 08:13:21 AM

As much as I dislike Mitt Romney. He is our only chance of getting rid of this Obama-nation now. He claims that if elected he will exempt everybody from the requirements by granting a universal waiver.

If it's a tax and congress has the power to tax then can't they just repeal the tax and kill it?