BIG NATION Tonight 7pm: HOW ATHLETES BEAT STEROID TESTING

[Blockhead]

 Oh, I'm down with that but if fat soccer moms and law makers want to be worried about highschool kids then steroids should be at the very very bottom of the list or not even on the page at all.

 Next thing you know we are going to hear about how steroids make teenagers have aggressive behavior and may even lead them to suicide like that little closet homo Tyler Houghton or whatever his name was.

[Disgusted]

Calm down, gramps, don't rupture an artery. I was only joking

Yeah, OK BIG boy.    BTW, I wasn't reffering to you. I didn't even read your post.

[Disgusted]

Steroid side effects:

chest pain or heavy feeling, pain spreading to the arm or shoulder, nausea, sweating, general ill feeling;

a change in the pattern or severity of migraine headaches;

stomach pain, loss of appetite, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes);

 breast lump

symptoms of depression (sleep problems, weakness, mood changes).

Less serious side effects may include:

breast pain, tenderness, or swelling;

increased hair growth, or loss of scalp hair;

changes in weight or appetite, swelling of your hands or feet;

For women

vaginal itching or discharge; or

changes in your menstrual periods.

DO NOT TAKE IF YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF:

uncontrolled high blood pressure, migraine headaches, or a heart valve disorder;

a history of stroke, blood clot, or circulation problems of diabetes;

kidney or liver disease;
adrenal gland disorder;

FOR WOMEN

unusual vaginal bleeding;

any type of breast, uterine, or hormone-dependent cancer; or

[candidizzle]

Ba ha ha!

 I have to agree with DISGUSTED. The numbers are grossly exaggerated. 9 out of 10 highschool teenagers engaged in highschool athletics think Optimum Nutrition 100% WHEY Protein (Dutch Chocolate) is a steroid.

 I'm not saying it never has happened but the numbers are far too low for any fat soccer mom to be alarmed.

 I also know that 9 out of those 10 highschoolers drink and DRIVE regularily, snort cocaine, smoke bud , pop X and have promiscious sex.

why dutch chocolate ? 

[columbusdude82]

So how can I get human grade steroids then?

Do they have them at CVS?

Will the lady at the counter give them to me if I ask nicely enough?

[candidizzle]

So how can I get human grade steroids then?

Do they have them at CVS?

Will the lady at the counter give them to me if I ask nicely enough?

no you gotta go to  walgreens and you have to talk to pedro who will be in the snack aisle and tell him you want the apples

[columbusdude82]

no you gotta go to  walgreens and you have to talk to pedro who will be in the snack aisle and tell him you want the apples

What a coincidence, there are two guys called Pedro picking apples in my garden right now.

Think they can hook me up?

[Blockhead]

What a coincidence, there are two guys called Pedro picking apples in my garden right now.

Think they can hook me up?

Ba ha ha.

 You still comming to Chicago in a few weeks?

[columbusdude82]

Ba ha ha.

 You still comming to Chicago in a few weeks?

Still undecided.

Gas is real expensive and I'd feel too goofy going alone. Unfortunately none of my friends, even the ones most into lifting, are that interested in bbing to go to the Junior Nats...

[Howard]

I call bullshit on that. Absolutely FALSE! I bet my hairy ass they were using something available at your local GNC. I am willing to also bet my hairy ass that out of 100 highschoolers surveyed to be a user...only 1 maybe 2 TOPS actually did or have.

I tend to agree with this. I think it is overblown for 2 main reasons:
1. access to real juice     2. $$$$$
The real sauce is a lot more $$$ than most high school kids could afford on a reg basis.
Crack, beer , pot is more in the price range for HS kids.
Ya know, I don't drink, smoke or do ANY drugs, even steroids.
Having said that, I don't understand why many drugs are illegal. I have heard various theories and know the history of drug laws, etc and it still makes no sense.
Howard

[Disgusted]

So how can I get human grade steroids then?

Do they have them at CVS?

Will the lady at the counter give them to me if I ask nicely enough?

I'm bettin when the lady at the counter sees you she will not only suggest you get on test before you ask, but also give it to you for free. 

[columbusdude82]

I'm bettin when the lady at the counter sees you she will not only suggest you get on test before you ask, but also give it to you for free. 

Sweet!!! Thanks, gramps.

Do you get a lot of "pity test" as well?

[Disgusted]

Sweet!!! Thanks, gramps.

Do you get a lot of "pity test" as well?

Nope since I'm old I got a script. In your case that fact that you were born without testicles would certainly make it legal for you to take at 12 years old.

[columbusdude82]

Nope since I'm old I got a script. In your case that fact that you were born without testicles would certainly make it legal for you to take at 12 years old.

Good news. I'll be sure to let you know what the CVS lady says

[Disgusted]

Steroid side effects:

chest pain or heavy feeling, pain spreading to the arm or shoulder, nausea, sweating, general ill feeling;

a change in the pattern or severity of migraine headaches;

stomach pain, loss of appetite, jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes);

 breast lump

symptoms of depression (sleep problems, weakness, mood changes).

Less serious side effects may include:

breast pain, tenderness, or swelling;

increased hair growth, or loss of scalp hair;

changes in weight or appetite, swelling of your hands or feet;

For women

vaginal itching or discharge; or

changes in your menstrual periods.

DO NOT TAKE IF YOU HAVE A HISTORY OF:

uncontrolled high blood pressure, migraine headaches, or a heart valve disorder;

a history of stroke, blood clot, or circulation problems of diabetes;

kidney or liver disease;
adrenal gland disorder;

FOR WOMEN

unusual vaginal bleeding;

any type of breast, uterine, or hormone-dependent cancer; or

Actually these are the side effects for the new birth cotrol pill YAZ. Sounds pretty safe to me. I think all young girls should be on it. 

[Blockhead]

 Majority of girls ages 14-25 use boatloads of steroids every day, actually.

 Like Jim said...birth control pills. Birth control pills are in fact, steroids. Synthetic hormones. Period.(no pun intended)

[Brutal_1]

I tend to agree with this. I think it is overblown for 2 main reasons:
1. access to real juice     2. $$$$$
The real sauce is a lot more $$$ than most high school kids could afford on a reg basis.
Crack, beer , pot is more in the price range for HS kids.
Ya know, I don't drink, smoke or do ANY drugs, even steroids.
Having said that, I don't understand why many drugs are illegal. I have heard various theories and know the history of drug laws, etc and it still makes no sense.
Howard

The only reason I can think of as to why you guys don't think it's that rampant is location.

Not sure where you guys are from, but here in So Cal, we take our sports seriously!  Which means, if you want that college scholarship for sports, you do what you have to do.  YES, a lot of high school students are on steroids, maybe not 9 out of 10 students, but I'd say 7 out of 10 serious student athletes, easily!  Football/ baseball/ wrestling being the most that I've personally been involved with. 

Hell, I've even trained high school athletes and had their parents tell me if they do it, that I make sure they do it safely!  The most popular is anything oral, as these are just kids and are still afraid of needles. 

But yeah, every school has at least one or two guys who makes normal trips down south to Mexico and come back with the winning recipe for the CIF championships.

Don't get me started on how much MORE of these kids start AS use in college....

[Special Ed]

Brutal, let's say you're right and 7/10 student athletes are using steroids (though I find that estimate to be high). Assuming that only 10 percent of high school students play varsity sports, that would leave us with an overall statistic of 7 percent usage. Considering half of the stuff they're getting is fake, it's more like 3-4 percent. Compared to alcohol (90 percent high schooler usage), marijuana (50 percent), tobacco (30 percent) and Adderall (25 percent), I think steroids should be given the appropriate weight it deserves. 

[Brutal_1]

Brutal, let's say you're right and 7/10 student athletes are using steroids (though I find that estimate to be high). Assuming that only 10 percent of high school students play varsity sports, that would leave us with an overall statistic of 7 percent usage. Considering half of the stuff they're getting is fake, it's more like 3-4 percent. Compared to alcohol (90 percent high schooler usage), marijuana (50 percent), tobacco (30 percent) and Adderall (25 percent), I think steroids should be given the appropriate weight it deserves. 

Okay, yeah, looking at the entire student body it's not a HUGE percentage of students at all.  And actually I can't think of any high school students that were doing AS for any reason other than sports.  I can only comment on what I've seen myself....