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im getting bloodwork done in order for my doctor to prescribe TRT.... what can i do to make sure the bloodwork reflects low enough T to get the script. doctor is by the book will not diagnose if in normal range. in the past my T levels have been alll over the map high side low side middle of the road but never low enough to justify TRT. im almost 50. still in pretty good shape. its just harder and harder to give a fuck about anything and much weaker than ive ever been in my life, deslite looming decent.
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Perhaps its not your Test level that is the source of your problem. Have a thorough blood work done and see how all levels are.
Why take something if not needed?
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Perhaps its not your Test level that is the source of your problem. Have a thorough blood work done and see how all levels are.
Why take something if not needed?
all ofher levels are fine. i have been checked regularly. its age. because I work I actually have insurance and go to dr. whenever i feel like it. i have requested a script before. and been denied. i know its low just not low enough.
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Get drunk and stay up all night before the day of the test
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Do you recall Total and free Test values? We all know there is a range, I agree that its better to be in the range, but, best to be at the upper end.
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im getting bloodwork done in order for my doctor to prescribe TRT.... what can i do to make sure the bloodwork reflects low enough T to get the script. doctor is by the book will not diagnose if in normal range. in the past my T levels have been alll over the map high side low side middle of the road but never low enough to justify TRT. im almost 50. still in pretty good shape. its just harder and harder to give a fuck about anything and much weaker than ive ever been in my life, deslite looming decent.
get fat and don't sleep....test will plummet....you're welcome
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im getting bloodwork done in order for my doctor to prescribe TRT.... what can i do to make sure the bloodwork reflects low enough T to get the script. doctor is by the book will not diagnose if in normal range. in the past my T levels have been alll over the map high side low side middle of the road but never low enough to justify TRT. im almost 50. still in pretty good shape. its just harder and harder to give a fuck about anything and much weaker than ive ever been in my life, deslite looming decent.
Use steroids. That'll shit down your natural test production. Couple weeks of 75mg Tren ace eod should shut you down.just be sure you're getting stuff you're sure won't have testosterone in it. Actually, might be a better idea to run orals in that case. 25mg dbol for a couple weeks right up to the test should work.
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Use steroids. That'll shit down your natural test production. Couple weeks of 75mg Tren ace eod should shut you down.just be sure you're getting stuff you're sure won't have testosterone in it. Actually, might be a better idea to run orals in that case. 25mg dbol for a couple weeks right up to the test should work.
i cant do that, im subject to drug testing at work. including anabolics. zero tolerance policy.
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i cant do that, im subject to drug testing at work. including anabolics. zero tolerance policy.
Go through shizzos posting history, your test levels with drop with each page...
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Just find a faggg doc and suck him off every week . Works for N Animal, dj, Howard....
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im getting bloodwork done in order for my doctor to prescribe TRT.... what can i do to make sure the bloodwork reflects low enough T to get the script. doctor is by the book will not diagnose if in normal range. in the past my T levels have been alll over the map high side low side middle of the road but never low enough to justify TRT. im almost 50. still in pretty good shape. its just harder and harder to give a fuck about anything and much weaker than ive ever been in my life, deslite looming decent.
A doctor isn't going to get you test if you don't need it, too many side effects. Recovering slower? That is called life, and growing old. I'm only in my 30's and the gym is harder and I already got 1 back surgery under my belt for punishment for lifting heavy and maybe bad form.
Not giving a fuck sounds like you might have depression, IMO you're seeing the wrong type of doctor.
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A doctor isn't going to get you test if you don't need it, too many side effects. Recovering slower? That is called life, and growing old. I'm only in my 30's and the gym is harder and I already got 1 back surgery under my belt for punishment for lifting heavy and maybe bad form.
Not giving a fuck sounds like you might have depression, IMO you're seeing the wrong type of doctor.
The only side effect of TRT when done correctly is feeling better
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Just find a faggg doc and suck him off every week . Works for N Animal, dj, Howard....
and no pic from you
figgers PUSSY
fyi, test sucks ass deca and winny pwn the fuck outta it
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Eat lots of black licorice. I'm not even kidding. It will negatively impact your testosterone levels.
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Go through shizzos posting history, your test levels with drop with each page...
legit lol. fucking brutal.
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Eat lots of black licorice. I'm not even kidding. It will negatively impact your testosterone levels.
first ive heard of this. you're bullshitting me right?
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first ive heard of this. you're bullshitting me right?
No. You can google it. Here's an example. It's 100% for real.
http://medherb.com/Materia_Medica/Glycyrrhiza_-_Licorice_root_and_testosterone.htm (http://medherb.com/Materia_Medica/Glycyrrhiza_-_Licorice_root_and_testosterone.htm)
More:
http://virilityprotocol.com/men-never-eat-licorice/ (http://virilityprotocol.com/men-never-eat-licorice/)
"Be aware that eating too much licorice can raise blood pressure, makes heartbeat irregular and is known to lower testosterone levels by almost 50% for almost two days." (from the 2nd article linked)
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Go to a doctor that specializes in trt.... no insurance will work...in all it will run around two hundred a month.
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I have a vague recollection of selling some sort of licorice product at my nutrition store back 16 17 years ago. Might be more effective... Or use them both.
As far as drug testing, might be possible to use methyl-test for a couple weeks.. Maybe even a week prior, if you have some sort of an idea when the testing may occur. Even just test alone in a small dose should just shut down and replace natural production.
For instance 200mg cyp on monday(day1)should shoot test levels to 1200-1400ng/dl by wed(day3) and by day 10 should be down to 700-750. A month of doing that (just 2 injections), then waiting 3.5weeks after your 2nd shot to get blood work may have your test levels come back in the 200-300range...and if you get drug tested during that time by the time the results come back you could say you tried an OTC "test booster"& if they re-test, even if they test you on day 3 when its 1200-1400, if they re-test on day 5 or 6 you should be back down to 900, which is the upper limit of "normal" test levels. Unless they do the expensive "carbon isotope" blah blah testing which differentiate between natural testosterone and testosterone derived from Mexican wild yams (like the test in your bottle of Phizer cypionate)...... Could also do the same thing with oral test (methyl test). The body produces 8-12mg testosterone per day, so you could just use 15-20mg/day(bioavailability isn't 100%) for 3 wks (half life is 8-12hrs so it doesn't build up) should be long enough to shut down and replace natural test production. With drug testing, same thing. If you take a tab of methyl test in the morning and get tested in the afternoon & you expect it to come back higher you would just not take it for the next couple days until the test results come in and if it's high and then retest you all the time of the retest the levels will be back to normal or below normal.
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Go to a doctor that specializes in trt.... no insurance will work...in all it will run around two hundred a month.
All of my HRT prescriptions have come from General Practitioners.
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The only side effect of TRT when done correctly is feeling better
And how is taking it when he has normal levels done correctly?
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i cant do that, im subject to drug testing at work. including anabolics. zero tolerance policy.
Never heard of an employer who tests for anabolics, that's usually expensive
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im getting bloodwork done in order for my doctor to prescribe TRT.... what can i do to make sure the bloodwork reflects low enough T to get the script. doctor is by the book will not diagnose if in normal range. in the past my T levels have been alll over the map high side low side middle of the road but never low enough to justify TRT. im almost 50. still in pretty good shape. its just harder and harder to give a fuck about anything and much weaker than ive ever been in my life, deslite looming decent.
run enough test to make your boys quit. Do blood work a month after last shot. You should be damn low.
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Never heard of an employer who tests for anabolics, that's usually expensive
Some criminal justice, LE, medical field, etc test for anabolics
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run enough test to make your boys quit. Do blood work a month after last shot. You should be damn low.
What I said above.
Only need about 100mg a week/200 bi-weekly. Should only need 3weeks on to be ahut down. At that dose and we'll just shut down and replace his natural testosterone production and should be within acceptable levels if he happens to get tested during those 3 weeks
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and no pic from you
figgers PUSSY
fyi, test sucks ass deca and winny pwn the fuck outta it
RIPPED TO THE BONE!!!!
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and no pic from you
figgers PUSSY
fyi, test sucks ass deca and winny pwn the fuck outta it
witch one of these is the before picture and which is the after? are these pictures supposed to be impressive?how tall are you?
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No. You can google it. Here's an example. It's 100% for real.
http://medherb.com/Materia_Medica/Glycyrrhiza_-_Licorice_root_and_testosterone.htm (http://medherb.com/Materia_Medica/Glycyrrhiza_-_Licorice_root_and_testosterone.htm)
More:
http://virilityprotocol.com/men-never-eat-licorice/ (http://virilityprotocol.com/men-never-eat-licorice/)
"Be aware that eating too much licorice can raise blood pressure, makes heartbeat irregular and is known to lower testosterone levels by almost 50% for almost two days." (from the 2nd article linked)
thanks alot. ill start chowing down.
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The problem with trying to crash your testosterone levels with exogenous anabolics injections is that it will also shut down your LH and FSH which the doctor will damn sure test for. If he sees your FSH and LH is low, he will know that you're taking anabolics or if he doesn't, he will think you might have some sort of testicular cancer or severe medical condition so you might have to go through some shit just to get a script.
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Never heard of an employer who tests for anabolics, that's usually expensive
yup. they use the cheapest lab available. of the y6 positive tests theyve had in two years 3 were false positives. i mean completely inaacurate... they xont test for specific substances just check test levels and if youre out of the normal range its a prsumptive positive rezult. that is why i neex to obtain a dr.'s persrciption for testosterone.
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Do a shit load of cardio, eat zero fat, eat a shit ton of soy make sure its non fermented. Get very little sleep, work yourself tirelessly and then get tested.
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Do a shit load of cardio, eat zero fat, eat a shit ton of soy make sure its non fermented. Get very little sleep, work yourself tirelessly and then get tested.
This will work. Also aim to stay awake as long as possible before u give blood. So usually your blood test will be scheduled for the morning. So stay awake all night before and don't sleep. This will give u a lower test reading.
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The problem with trying to crash your testosterone levels with exogenous anabolics injections is that it will also shut down your LH and FSH which the doctor will damn sure test for. If he sees your FSH and LH is low, he will know that you're taking anabolics or if he doesn't, he will think you might have some sort of testicular cancer or severe medical condition so you might have to go through some shit just to get a script.
Wrong.
If he goes to a gp all they'll test for is test and free test, along with most likely cholesterol and shit that would be negatively impacted by putting him on HRT. Been getting HRT bloodwork since 2005 and Dr's (at least 6) have never even brought up LH or FSH. Only time they'll bother with those is if you're trying to have a baby.
Besides if his testosterone is low his FSH and LH are going to be low anyways. What do you think would be the reason for his testosterone being low in the first place? You're not gonna have a normal LH and FSH if his test is low.
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A SARM like ostarine or LGD will suppress testosterone but won't totally shut you down, so doctors wont get suspicious about crazy low readings on the blood test.
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I have a vague recollection of selling some sort of licorice product at my nutrition store back 16 17 years ago. Might be more effective... Or use them both.
As far as drug testing, might be possible to use methyl-test for a couple weeks.. Maybe even a week prior, if you have some sort of an idea when the testing may occur. Even just test alone in a small dose should just shut down and replace natural production.
For instance 200mg cyp on monday(day1)should shoot test levels to 1200-1400ng/dl by wed(day3) and by day 10 should be down to 700-750. A month of doing that (just 2 injections), then waiting 3.5weeks after your 2nd shot to get blood work may have your test levels come back in the 200-300range...and if you get drug tested during that time by the time the results come back you could say you tried an OTC "test booster"& if they re-test, even if they test you on day 3 when its 1200-1400, if they re-test on day 5 or 6 you should be back down to 900, which is the upper limit of "normal" test levels. Unless they do the expensive "carbon isotope" blah blah testing which differentiate between natural testosterone and testosterone derived from Mexican wild yams (like the test in your bottle of Phizer cypionate)...... Could also do the same thing with oral test (methyl test). The body produces 8-12mg testosterone per day, so you could just use 15-20mg/day(bioavailability isn't 100%) for 3 wks (half life is 8-12hrs so it doesn't build up) should be long enough to shut down and replace natural test production. With drug testing, same thing. If you take a tab of methyl test in the morning and get tested in the afternoon & you expect it to come back higher you would just not take it for the next couple days until the test results come in and if it's high and then retest you all the time of the retest the levels will be back to normal or below normal.
Methyltest will not show as test on a AAS screen or test level screen.
But I would also do steroids if I wanted to qualify for HRT.
I would do like 10mg of dbol for 2 weeks. If the doc is smart he will know you did something suspicious if test is totally tanked, alternatively he would do more testing because zero test indicates some severe problems.
Though I think jr above has the best idea. SARMs are not tested for on typical drug screens. Perfect for this purpose for the OP.
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Wrong.
If he goes to a gp all they'll test for is test and free test, along with most likely cholesterol and shit that would be negatively impacted by putting him on HRT. Been getting HRT bloodwork since 2005 and Dr's (at least 6) have never even brought up LH or FSH. Only time they'll bother with those is if you're trying to have a baby.
Besides if his testosterone is low his FSH and LH are going to be low anyways. What do you think would be the reason for his testosterone being low in the first place? You're not gonna have a normal LH and FSH if his test is low.
Well, LH and FSH are indicators for whether the hypogonadism is primary or secondary i.e. signaling or testicular problem.
Also, shortly after a steroid cycle LH can be above normal with little to no test being produced.
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Whoa whoa whoa! Here's an idea. Don't do anything special. Have the doc run your panels. Look at all the legit numbers. Address any issues of concern LDL's, cholesterol, etc. Then go to the connection, get what you want and step on the gas.
When you return to your doctor in a year or so have your panels run again. Tell your doctor what you're running. Don't lie to your doctor. Don't lie to your lawyer.
That's what my guys do.
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Whoa whoa whoa! Here's an idea. Don't do anything special. Have the doc run your panels. Look at all the legit numbers. Address any issues of concern LDL's, cholesterol, etc. Then go to the connection, get what you want and step on the gas.
When you return to your doctor in a year or so have your panels run again. Tell your doctor what you're running. Don't lie to your doctor. Don't lie to your lawyer.
That's what my guys do.
thats great advice. in fCt alot of good advice in this thread.
but.....
i need the prescription for job security before i run anything at all.
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Methyltest will not show as test on a AAS screen or test level screen.
But I would also do steroids if I wanted to qualify for HRT.
I would do like 10mg of dbol for 2 weeks. If the doc is smart he will know you did something suspicious if test is totally tanked, alternatively he would do more testing because zero test indicates some severe problems.
Though I think jr above has the best idea. SARMs are not tested for on typical drug screens. Perfect for this purpose for the OP.
I've always been upfront with the doctors about why I'm on HRT. Even the first Dr when I was like 23. Told him I think my testosterone is low he asked why I told him because I've been using steroids since I was 17 years old he said oh okay. So long as you're low, you're low. He's not gonna deny you HRT just because it slow because of steroids, and even if the o p tells the doctor it slow because he takes steroids or took steroids 4 years before the doctor cannot tell his employer as it would violate HIPPA laws. (Actually, it may be a good thing if the doctor tells his employer and he gets fired as then he would have a lawsuit against the doctor for future earnings among other things) anyways... At most, the Dr may order a CT scan to check for a tumor on the pituitary that might be affecting testosterone levels that would bypass any need for testing LH and FSH. CT scan takes 5mins and you'll have a script for test before you even do the CT.
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Save yourself a lot of time and trouble. Spend $70 and get your own blood work done. You may already qualify.
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Wrong.
If he goes to a gp all they'll test for is test and free test, along with most likely cholesterol and shit that would be negatively impacted by putting him on HRT. Been getting HRT bloodwork since 2005 and Dr's (at least 6) have never even brought up LH or FSH. Only time they'll bother with those is if you're trying to have a baby.
Besides if his testosterone is low his FSH and LH are going to be low anyways. What do you think would be the reason for his testosterone being low in the first place? You're not gonna have a normal LH and FSH if his test is low.
when you are on HRT in the UK you get regular blood tests bearing in mind you have been known to use huge dosages in the past how do you explain your elevated test levels and stay on HRT, in the UK they would take you off if your levels were elevated.
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Yourself a lot of time and trouble. Spend $70 and get your own blood work done. You may already quantify.
This
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when you are on HRT in the UK you get regular blood tests bearing in mind you have been known to use huge dosages in the past how do you explain your elevated test levels and stay on HRT, in the UK they would take you off if your levels were elevated.
They do the same here in the US, I'm on Hrt just 300ml a week, and my doc won't let my levels go higher then 1500, also keeps an eye on red blood cell count if they get too high he will have me donate blood, also keeps an eye on all the other markers estrogen, liver/kidney function, bp, cholesterol, have to get blood work every 3 months with him.
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when you are on HRT in the UK you get regular blood tests bearing in mind you have been known to use huge dosages in the past how do you explain your elevated test levels and stay on HRT, in the UK they would take you off if your levels were elevated.
You know the testing date. Short test esters close to testing date. Anabolics won't show either.
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I've always been upfront with the doctors about why I'm on HRT. Even the first Dr when I was like 23. Told him I think my testosterone is low he asked why I told him because I've been using steroids since I was 17 years old he said oh okay. So long as you're low, you're low. He's not gonna deny you HRT just because it slow because of steroids, and even if the o p tells the doctor it slow because he takes steroids or took steroids 4 years before the doctor cannot tell his employer as it would violate HIPPA laws. (Actually, it may be a good thing if the doctor tells his employer and he gets fired as then he would have a lawsuit against the doctor for future earnings among other things) anyways... At most, the Dr may order a CT scan to check for a tumor on the pituitary that might be affecting testosterone levels that would bypass any need for testing LH and FSH. CT scan takes 5mins and you'll have a script for test before you even do the CT.
Have you had your heart checked yet for possible heart valve issues?
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Have you had your heart checked yet for possible heart valve issues?
Everything's come back ok so far. Only took the Spiro and Bumex(the diuretic supposedly 40-50 times stronger than Lasix) for 2 days and continued to wear the compression stockings till the edema went down. Bp was low while I was on pain meds or even now if I take them, especially if I take them the same day or day after taking a clonidine. Low being <115/60, couple times it was 95/42ish. Then the day I went off pain meds I had a wound dressing change At the wound clinic and bp was 144/110 lol,& that was BEFORE the Dr scrubbed the wound. Im surprised I didn't have a stroke laying there. Heart rate was a lil odd for a cpl weeks as well. Resting at 98-113. Now bp w/o clonidine is 138-146/65-70 and HR 80-86 usually. All the tests they do came back normal and ultrasound on my lower legs came back unremarkable so no blood clots/DVT. It's probably from vascular damage because I'd done iv shots in my calves and behind my knees and such.
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You know the testing date. Short test esters close to testing date. Anabolics won't show either.
but why all the fucking about, if you want to take test just take it, why keep pissing about at the docs for a $2 shot of test every two weeks
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Everything's come back ok so far. Only took the Spiro and Bumex(the diuretic supposedly 40-50 times stronger than Lasix) for 2 days and continued to wear the compression stockings till the edema went down. Bp was low while I was on pain meds or even now if I take them, especially if I take them the same day or day after taking a clonidine. Low being <115/60, couple times it was 95/42ish. Then the day I went off pain meds I had a wound dressing change At the wound clinic and bp was 144/110 lol,& that was BEFORE the Dr scrubbed the wound. Im surprised I didn't have a stroke laying there. Heart rate was a lil odd for a cpl weeks as well. Resting at 98-113. Now bp w/o clonidine is 138-146/65-70 and HR 80-86 usually. All the tests they do came back normal and ultrasound on my lower legs came back unremarkable so no blood clots/DVT. It's probably from vascular damage because I'd done iv shots in my calves and behind my knees and such.
Did they do the echo or ekg or whatever tests Walter white suggested. Also has your fainting and dizziness subsided?
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RIPPED TO THE BONE!!!!
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more like full to the bone
ripped is sub-6 im prob bout 8 there
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witch one of these is the before picture and which is the after? are these pictures supposed to be impressive?how tall are you?
tall enough to nail your gf and sister
lets see yoir pics
but we all know youll never post em up PUSSY
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Did they do the echo or ekg or whatever tests Walter white suggested. Also has your fainting and dizziness subsided?
I've had 2 EKGs since getting out of the hospital. When I was in the hospital I was on the cardiac/telemetry unit for the first 2-3wks and hooked up to a portAble ECG 7 lead monitor. All were normal aside from when I came in with sinus tachycardia, which I've had twice before (that I know of, measured at least) with a 200-240 HR.
The blacking out when standing has been gone for a couple weeks now.. Maybe 3. Not sure what was causing that. Dunno if it was the pain meds or what, but I never had it when I was doing 1,000mg diacetylmorphine IV 6 times a day back in the day, which is way stronger than the pain meds I was on. Even at the max of 80mg oxycodone CR 2x a day and 30mg Oxycodone IR every 3hrs and 2mg diluadid iv every 2hrs I wasn't getting dizzy when standing. (With 800mg gabapentin 3x for neuropathy and 20mg baclofen 3x/day for my neck/back). .. I suppose it might've been the clonidine combined With the pain meds killing my BP
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but why all the fucking about, if you want to take test just take it, why keep pissing about at the docs for a $2 shot of test every two weeks
Sure, but there might be advantages with having a script even if you do additional steroids. Steroid tests at work, you might want to go on true hrt in the future so documented history makes it easier, you want to have a little test with you when you travel, you want to do periodic blood work or phlebotomies through a doc, if you end up in prison you can continue the trt while in etc.
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Sure, but there might be advantages with having a script even if you do additional steroids. Steroid tests at work, you might want to go on true hrt in the future so documented history makes it easier, you want to have a little test with you when you travel, you want to do periodic blood work or phlebotomies through a doc etc.
If you are going to do additional steroids then having to keep going to the docs for blood tests isn't an advantage.
as for travel, test last long enough in your system to cover most holidays, you don't need to take it with you.
As for blood tests there are lots of places you can get that done without going to a doctor.
And not many employers test for steroids, most work tests are for rec drugs, and test would just show up as test on a drug test..
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i crashed my test levels on purpose at 21 so that i could get on trt and have optimal test levels for LYFE
;D ;D ;D
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thats great advice. in fCt alot of good advice in this thread.
but.....
i need the prescription for job security before i run anything at all.
OK gotcha regarding the prescription. Interesting.
You may need to "doctor shop" a bit. Hey, if you're in California, shoot me a pm. I may have a doctor who can assist. All absolutely legit.
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I'm telling ya, all you need is a general practitioner. All of my scripts for HRT test rib pain from just regular GP doctors when I went in and told them I think my testosterone is low they ask why I say well I've been using anabolic since I was 17, I guess you could also say you have been using prohormones the legal ones and rattle off the typical side effects of having low testosterone. Zero sex drive zero motivation body fat gain muscle loss excetera excetera. And the doctor will send me to get my blood drawn and check total test and free test, metabolic panel, CBC, and lipid panel for the 1st time w a regular general practitioner doctor and Hill ith any particular dr. After that they don't really bother testing for the other stuff like lipids and they just focus on what the testosterone levels are. They're rarely even test for estradiol or prescribe anti estrogens or aromatase Inhibitors such as nolvadex or aromasin, as they consider that "cosmetic" and don't affect quality of life which is the goal with hormone replacement therapy.
Anyways, long story short... all you need is a general practitioner doctor and he'll do blood work for testosterone and a lipid panel and write you a prescription on the spot well at least after he gets the results back and they're low enough to qualify for HRT. It's kind of up to him where the low number cuts off some doctors will write HRT scripts for guys under 450 nanograms some doctors won't write a script unless it's under 350 nanograms and some won't write a script unless it's under 300 nanograms. I'm "lucky" as mine is <100 "naturally" off gear(test), even 9months off gear its <100. If you test at 400ng/ml and the Dr won't write it, just go to a different doctor. Can't really call that "doctor shopping" since you're not getting prescriptions from multiple doctors. Now if you got a TRT script from one doctor, and then went and got another TRT script from a different doctor, THAT would be considered "Doctor shopping". Its really not as hard as some make it out to be. Neck, you can order your own blood work ( you don't need a doctor's prescription to order blood work. I did it for years for clients checking various things and just charge them double what my out-of-pocket cost was. Example, total testosterone test cost $45, I'd charge them $90. I'd get either zip code for home or work, print out the bloodwork PDF, give it to them and send them to the LabCorp most convenient for them nearest their home or work so they could even do the blood draw on their lunch break) and have your testosterone checked and have the results emailed to you in a PDF file so you can check what your testosterone levels are before you even go to the doctor. Its a small investment but at least you'll know what your levels are before you go in.
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I'm telling ya, all you need is a general practitioner. All of my scripts for HRT test rib pain from just regular GP doctors when I went in and told them I think my testosterone is low they ask why I say well I've been using anabolic since I was 17, I guess you could also say you have been using prohormones the legal ones and rattle off the typical side effects of having low testosterone. Zero sex drive zero motivation body fat gain muscle loss excetera excetera. And the doctor will send me to get my blood drawn and check total test and free test, metabolic panel, CBC, and lipid panel for the 1st time w a regular general practitioner doctor and Hill ith any particular dr. After that they don't really bother testing for the other stuff like lipids and they just focus on what the testosterone levels are. They're rarely even test for estradiol or prescribe anti estrogens or aromatase Inhibitors such as nolvadex or aromasin, as they consider that "cosmetic" and don't affect quality of life which is the goal with hormone replacement therapy.
Anyways, long story short... all you need is a general practitioner doctor and he'll do blood work for testosterone and a lipid panel and write you a prescription on the spot well at least after he gets the results back and they're low enough to qualify for HRT. It's kind of up to him where the low number cuts off some doctors will write HRT scripts for guys under 450 nanograms some doctors won't write a script unless it's under 350 nanograms and some won't write a script unless it's under 300 nanograms. I'm "lucky" as mine is <100 "naturally" off gear(test), even 9months off gear its <100. If you test at 400ng/ml and the Dr won't write it, just go to a different doctor. Can't really call that "doctor shopping" since you're not getting prescriptions from multiple doctors. Now if you got a TRT script from one doctor, and then went and got another TRT script from a different doctor, THAT would be considered "Doctor shopping". Its really not as hard as some make it out to be. Neck, you can order your own blood work ( you don't need a doctor's prescription to order blood work. I did it for years for clients checking various things and just charge them double what my out-of-pocket cost was. Example, total testosterone test cost $45, I'd charge them $90. I'd get either zip code for home or work, print out the bloodwork PDF, give it to them and send them to the LabCorp most convenient for them nearest their home or work so they could even do the blood draw on their lunch break) and have your testosterone checked and have the results emailed to you in a PDF file so you can check what your testosterone levels are before you even go to the doctor. Its a small investment but at least you'll know what your levels are before you go in.
so are you on prescribed HRT or not?
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A doctor isn't going to get you test if you don't need it, too many side effects. Recovering slower? That is called life, and growing old. I'm only in my 30's and the gym is harder and I already got 1 back surgery under my belt for punishment for lifting heavy and maybe bad form.
Not giving a fuck sounds like you might have depression, IMO you're seeing the wrong type of doctor.
Anything you would recommend or avoid from personal experience from having a back injury? Also in my mid 30's.
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Anything you would recommend or avoid from personal experience from having a back injury? Also in my mid 30's.
Yeah, don’t be a stupid ass and lift heavy or ego lift. Competition is bad in the gym, if your not getting pay for it. Ie professional athlete.
Things I learn by getting back surgery.
-back surgery is painful as fuck.
-doctor shaved my back and ass for low back surgery.
-anesthesia fucks you up, and you won't take a poop for a couple days.
-I couldn’t pee laying and seating to save my life, in the hospital I had to walk with help to the bathroom to take a piss. I refused to let them stick a tube in my dick.
-plan on being in the hospital for 2-3 days
-dilaidid is a hell of a drug, it had me semi-hallucinating and more creative I wrote 2 songs in my head
-norco makes you itch like a mofo
-recovery is worst then the surgery.
-codeine sucks, i don't know how people take it for fun.
-my wound got infected so I'm had to see wound care people and was on antibiotics for weeks
-I learn I have issues asking people for help
-don’t try and go back to the gym early, I did and I cost me 2 weeks or intense pain.
so all in all if you can avoid back surgery, avoid it by all means. It does work though. I feel a million times better