Author Topic: Derek Anthony is a sad sad human being. (Read 10783 times)

The Showstoppa · « **Reply #25 on:** October 22, 2009, 05:10:10 AM »

Was his AAS abuse also responsible for his complete lack of literacy?

johnnynoname · « **Reply #26 on:** October 22, 2009, 05:14:22 AM »

with all due respect to derek but he is a example of a guy who was too naive when he tried to break into bodybuilding coverboy game

i honestly don't think he was gay (not that their is anything wrong with that)...it's just he believed the professional schmoes behind the camera and when they said jump he said how high

CalvinH · « **Reply #27 on:** October 22, 2009, 06:20:13 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 21, 2009, 11:57:20 PM

it's not bodybuilding that's the problem, it's the abuse. If he had run 2 short cycles each year (400 mg injectable) and kept a healthy body weight, he probably would have been fine. That kind of damage = lots of orals and cycles that were too long, IMO. And no reason for the ghb.

Either way, good to see him actually sharing warnings about it. So many BBers get sick and THANK the sport for keeping them strong as they faced a disease caused by the excesses.

Look who we are talking about here...

Method101 · « **Reply #28 on:** October 22, 2009, 06:26:19 AM »

poor old derek.

YoungBlood · « **Reply #29 on:** October 22, 2009, 10:26:34 AM »

Quote from: johnnynoname on October 22, 2009, 05:14:22 AM

i honestly don't think he was gay (not that their is anything wrong with that)...

Do you think you're Jerry Seinfeld now?

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #30 on:** October 22, 2009, 10:55:12 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on October 21, 2009, 11:57:20 PM

it's not bodybuilding that's the problem, it's the abuse. If he had run 2 short cycles each year (400 mg injectable) and kept a healthy body weight, he probably would have been fine. That kind of damage = lots of orals and cycles that were too long, IMO. And no reason for the ghb.

Then he wouldn't have had the body he had.

You can get liver tumors without doing a lot of orals.

No need for the GHB, though Milos did a great promo for GHB use recently. Said doing GHB at night is like doing 10 IU of GH. Milos would use GHB instead of GH when he couldn't afford GH.

Wiggs · « **Reply #31 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:01:45 AM »

WTF? This guy is living the dream

I do feel sorry for Mr. Springer...That's quite a list.

emn1964 · « **Reply #32 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:08:02 AM »

hmmmmm...doesn't really seem like something that he would post. does, however, sound like his dumbass ramblings tho.

jaejonna · « **Reply #33 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:11:17 AM »

Can't wait till he finally dies, he is a waste of carbon.

hahaha Adios bitch !!!!

HTexan · « **Reply #34 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:25:52 AM »

Quote from: emn1964 on October 22, 2009, 11:08:02 AM

hmmmmm...doesn't really seem like something that he would post. does, however, sound like his dumbass ramblings tho.

depression maybe?

timfogarty · « **Reply #35 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:30:48 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on October 22, 2009, 10:55:12 AM

You can get liver tumors without doing a lot of orals.

did you mean can't ?

the only people I've known to have liver problems while doing orals were doing other things, like heavy drinking or certain recreational drugs.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #36 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:35:02 AM »

Quote from: timfogarty on October 22, 2009, 11:30:48 AM

did you mean can't ?

the only people I've known to have liver problems while doing orals were doing other things, like heavy drinking or certain recreational drugs.

No, liver tumors (specifically) have been known to appear in anabolic steroid users not doing 17aa orals. They are fairly rare with or without orals though. Lots of liver "problems" are based mostly on elevated liver values, which does not necessarily mean the liver is damaged per se. Conversely, liver tumors can be present without elevated liver values. Only a liver scan will tell. Liver tumors can stay silent until they rupture - no signs before that.

timfogarty · « **Reply #37 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:42:24 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on October 22, 2009, 11:35:02 AM

No, liver tumors (specifically) have been known to appear in anabolic steroid users not doing 17aa orals. They are fairly rare with or without orals though. Lots of liver "problems" are based mostly on elevated liver values, which does not necessarily mean the liver is damaged per se. Conversely, liver tumors can be present without elevated liver values. Only a liver scan will tell. Liver tumors can stay silent until they rupture - no signs before that.

and liver tumors have been known to appear in people not taking anabolic steroids. that they rarely appear in people taking non 17aa orals doesn't mean steroids were the cause. Correlation != Causation, etc, etc.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #38 on:** October 22, 2009, 11:58:59 AM »

Quote from: timfogarty on October 22, 2009, 11:42:24 AM

and liver tumors have been known to appear in people not taking anabolic steroids. that they rarely appear in people taking non 17aa orals doesn't mean steroids were the cause. Correlation != Causation, etc, etc.

Sure, but the same can be said for liver tumors appearing in people who were taking 17aa orals. Correlation != Causation, etc, etc.

It's often said that Anadrol is the only steroid that has been "proven" to be able to cause liver cancer/tumors - however, I would say they can be caused by other 17aa orals as well. I also think it's quite possible injectable steroids can cause them too. Some estrogen metabolites especially can inhibit bile flow, the liver contains androgen receptors etc, etc.

The liver tumor warning is in every anabolic steroid PDR entry. Injectable, oral, 17aa or not.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #39 on:** October 22, 2009, 12:04:34 PM »

Quote from: timfogarty on October 21, 2009, 11:24:20 PM

once upon a time, long long ago,

So innocent

where did it all go wrong?

Go 4 It · « **Reply #40 on:** October 22, 2009, 12:07:27 PM »

Wow..thats pretty crazy, didn't he post a video on here awhile back talking about how healthy he is feeling? I was wondering why he kept saying "I'm healthy, I feel great" I kept thinking dude you're in your 20's why shouldn't you feel healthy?? Anyway, seems like the guy spent a ton of $$ "repairing" alot of shit caused from juice, his health insurance has got to be through the roof... I'm just wondering if the risk was worth the reward?