You get higher in the thread yet, or you care to keep rehashing something we've already gone over?
I have posted two bits of info one from the UN website that states that these crime figs from different countries are very unreliable for the use of country to country comparison, due to the different way each country classifies certain crimes and compiles their figs.
The UN website claims that homicide figs are one of the safer for drawing accurate comparisons as there is very little difference how different countries classify this crime.
You can see straight away from the fact that South Africa is apparently less violent than the UK that any comparisons on those figs are completely flawed. Only an utter moron would believe that the UK is more violent than the SA.
If one country has a much higher murder rate than another you can bet your bottom dollar it will also be an all round more violent country. The US has a far, far higher murder rate than the UK.