well, my $.02.
i'm a trainer. Trained bodybuilders, or people who wanted to 'look' like bodybuilders, for years. And without drugs, sure, they'd never get that freaky look, but they still make progress and look like they workout. And a good trainer should know how to stimulate growth and help teach the client how to manipulate their body without drugs. (even those of us who are ON drugs know how to grow and diet w/o them)
but bodybuilders are your worst clients.
then I moved into training mma guys, wrestlers, high school and college football players. (strength training and conditioning... not technique/skill's) and found it's more of a challenge. you're constantly problem-solving and making modifications.
then after dealing with bodybuilders vs. athletes, you realize that 99% of the population (your POTENTIAL clients) DON'T want to look like I do... they want to look and be 'fit', like skinny and lean.
Then I moved into doing bootcamp and crossfit-style workouts for ppl and they LOVED IT. The average person doesn't want to train one bodypart per day. they want a full body-leave them on the floor gasping for air-workout, so they feel like they accomplished something when they walk out the door.
plus... with bootcamps/group training. instead of training 1 person for an hour and making $60-$100, in an hour bootcamp with 10 people, I can make $150-$250 and those clients will KEEP COMING BACK. They're not gonna spend cash on 1on1 personal training for 2 months and quit. (especially guys, since they think they know everything anyways because they read a couple issues of FLEX... sorta like you Croatch).
so, 80% of my clients DON'T want to look like me. So it doesn't really matter if I use steroids or not. So long as i'm lean and have abs, that's all that matters to them. And they all KNOW I don't do the same workouts myself as I have them do.
So, Crotch, when it comes to training, and PED's, maybe you shouldn't talk about things you don't understand.