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Getbig Misc Discussion Boards => Wrestling Board => Topic started by: Montague on November 13, 2010, 04:59:36 AM
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The Wrestling Observer is reporting that WWE is set to release a "Top 50 Superstars of All-Time" DVD and the following list of names has been revealed for the disc:
1. Shawn Michaels
2. The Undertaker
3. Steve Austin
4. Bret Hart
5. The Rock
6. Harley Race
7. Ricky Steamboat
8. Andre the Giant
9. Rey Mysterio.
10. Roddy Piper
11. Eddie Guerrero
12. Triple H
13. Gorgeous George
14. Randy Savage
15. Curt Hennig
16. John Cena
17. Ric Flair
18. Dusty Rhodes
19. Edge
20. Jerry Lawler
21. Lou Thesz
22. Terry Funk
23. Hulk Hogan
24. Bruno Sammartino
25. Chris Jericho
26. Ted DiBiase
27. Fabulous Moolah
28. Freddie Blassie
29. Randy Orton
30. Pat Patterson
31. The Iron Sheik
32. Jimmy Snuka
33. Mick Foley
34. Kurt Angle
35. Buddy Rogers
36. Gorilla Monsoon
37. Junkyard Dog
38. Billy Graham
39. Jake Roberts
40. Big Show
41. Jack Brisco
42. Sgt. Slaughter
43. Kane
44. Nick Bockwinkel
45. Jeff Hardy
46. Dory Funk Jr.
47. Bob Backlund
48. Rick Rude
49. Batista
50. Killer Kowalski
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ultimate warrior should have been on there.
yes, I was a warrior fan when I was younger 8)
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yes, I was a warrior fan when I was younger 8)
It's okay, man...
We accept everyone down here.
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Ridiculous!! Ultimate Warrior is top 10 for sure!!!
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Yikes. Hogan #23? I get he's in TNA, but still. Mysterio #9, no Pedro Morales? If it is the best of WWE, why have Harley at #6? He didn't really do much there. I agree that Warrior should be there.
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Does the order have any significance?
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Hogan 23 and Flair 17.......Whooooooo !!!!!!! ;D
Seriously, no way you can put Hogan anywhere outside the top 5.
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Does the order have any significance?
I thought that was a ranking, it may not be. In the grand scheme, it doesn't matter, but it's fun to debate it.
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I thought that was a ranking, it may not be. In the grand scheme, it doesn't matter, but it's fun to debate it.
I suspect there may be some significance to it, being that the old man has HBK listed first.
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I would have
1.Hogan
2.Austin
3.Bruno
4.Shawn
5.Andre
6.Rock
7.Piper
8.Taker
9.Savage
10.HHH/Bret
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Where is Johnny Rodz ?!?
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Where is Johnny Rodz ?!?
Good thing "Sal" thinks we are all marks, so he doesn't post down here. ;D
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Good thing "Sal" thinks we are all marks, so he doesn't post down here. ;D
haha, you know he reads this board.....probably has a gimmick account he posts under down here..... ;D
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Hogan has to be #1 and if he isn't, it's all politics.
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Hogan has to be #1 and if he isn't, it's all politics.
Where's your Road Warriors'?
;D
Seriously, they include JYD & Batista, but no LOD... :-\
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sorry but I just saw Jeff Hardy's name on there. and no Ultimate Warrior.
its a sham LOL
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Apparently, Junk Yard Dog > the "Ultimate One," as well
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What no Xpac? ::)
What about Kevin Nash and/or Scott Hall.
I wouldn't have them high on the list but I would have them on it before a few of those names that made it.
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I'm happy to see Rude made it.
Surprised neither of the Bulldogs are included.
I really thought for sure that the RW's would appear.
P.S. - You can probably expect to see Benoit's name before X-Pac.
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I'm happy to see Rude made it.
Surprised neither of the Bulldogs are included.
I really thought for sure that the RW's would appear.
P.S. - You can probably expect to see Benoit's name before X-Pac.
No mainly Tagteam guys made the list....must have supposedly been for singles wrestlers.s
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Hogan and Flair should be numbers 1 & 2 easily without thinking twice as those two did EVERYTHING for wrestling.
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Where's your Road Warriors'?
;D
Seriously, they include JYD & Batista, but no LOD... :-\
Oh, don't get me going!!! But I assumed they would not be included because they are a tag team. But yes, they most definitely should be an exception.
But everyone should realize that these videos are just Vince's propaganda machines. Don't you remember in the 90's how all the videos bashed Hogan and company? Then when Hogan was back with the company, Hogan was the best ever. Now he will be ranked lower than Undertaker, Shawn Micheals, Austin, Rock and possibly a few others and it is total BS. This happens just because he is with TNA. Same will go for Flair. It's all BS!! Look at the Ultimate Warrior dvd??? It's just propaganda!! Warrior is a top 5 all time when it comes to popularity and this cannot be disputed but you won't see him anywhere near this list and that is wrong. I'm also sure all the wrestlers know this and do there best to save their legacy and stay on good terms with Vince to save face and hopefully be represented well in these videos. Look at Brett Hart? I'm sure if he wasn't back on good terms with Vince his ranking would be much lower than it will be on this dvd. And HHH??? He will make it into the top 8 just because he's family...BULL SHIT!!!!!
Hogan HAS to be #1, he put the WWF on the map all by himself. And he made wrestling more popular than anyone ever and is recognized as an American icon. Hogan is wrestling and everyone knows it.
If Hogan was with the WWF right now, he would be ranked #1, no doubt. Same can be said for Randy Savage, but we know how that goes
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Absolutely.
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This just prooves my point that I have been saying since day one of coming onto this board. If a wrestler is NOT with the WWE or is NOT a Vince McMahon creation, that wrestler will be buried.
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Without a doubt.
The Ultimate Warrior is the one of only two wrestlers who stayed true to his word about Vince. And Vince has tried on numerous occasions to get Warrior back even trying to get him into the Hall of Fame but Warrior always wants nothing to do with it. Now anyone can say what they will about the Warrior and his place in wrestling history, but he has his integrity and had never faltered. Vince will do everything possible to make the Warrior look bad and a figment of the past because of this.
The other is Bruno Sammartino. This guy should be #2 on this list without a doubt for his longevity and popularity. This guy has so much integrity that he would never bow down to Vince and he is waaaaaay smarter. He is not just some broken old man who lost all his marbles. Bruno is awesome and when you watch him speak you know he's honest. He get's the utmost respect from just about everyone in the industry BUT Vince and Vince runs the show.
This dvd is just a joke and I'll never pick it up because I know this ranking is just pure politics and propaganda. I'm sure many people will have their top 50 but numbers 1 and 2 should go like this:
1. Hulk Hogan
2. Bruno Sammartino
NUFF SAID!!!
Great Bruno article and as strong as he was he was TOTALLY drug-free!! The man is truly amazing!!!!
http://www.chaosandpain.com/content/baddest-motherfuckers-ever-16-bruno-sammartino
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Vince will do everything possible to make the Warrior look bad and a figment of the past because of this.
What you write about the old man is true, but plenty of others who'd worked with UW have very openly & candidly stated what an asshole he was to do business with.
In some respects, Hellwig reminds me of Bruiser Brody - tremendous draw, but extremely egotistical and could be entirely unprofesisonal to work with.
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True. But he never let Vince control him with the lure of money. Still, the UW deserves to be ranked as one of the greatest in WWF history. At his peak he was even more popular than Hogan (though it didn't last long). No one can come close to this other than Austin at his peak.
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What a load of crap that list is. If they'd done the DVD 5 years ago, Hogan and Flair would both be Top 5, easily. We all know how much Vince's ego takes control of these things, but does he really think he's gonna sell this to anyone but the younger brain-washed kids who have no idea who's who?
For me, 'Superstar' means that they went beyond wrestling, that they brought people in who never watched before, just because of who they were. So the top would probably be some arrangement of Hogan, Flair, Austin and Rock.
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What a load of crap that list is. If they'd done the DVD 5 years ago, Hogan and Flair would both be Top 5, easily. We all know how much Vince's ego takes control of these things, but does he really think he's gonna sell this to anyone but the younger brain-washed kids who have no idea who's who?
For me, 'Superstar' means that they went beyond wrestling, that they brought people in who never watched before, just because of who they were. So the top would probably be some arrangement of Hogan, Flair, Austin and Rock.
More like top two. They both MADE wrestling. Hands down.
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This just prooves my point that I have been saying since day one of coming onto this board. If a wrestler is NOT with the WWE or is NOT a Vince McMahon creation, that wrestler will be buried.
Totally agree. Which is why I am praying for some competition for the WWE.
It's the only way.
In an alternate universe, Shane MacMahon has started a new wrestling federation with Paul Heyman. And the women's division is ruled with an iron grip by Bull Nakano.
;D
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I still can't believe that midget is #9.
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I still can't believe that midget is #9.
I still can't believe that WWE programming is still on tv. :-\
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Totally agree. Which is why I am praying for some competition for the WWE.
It's the only way.
In an alternate universe, Shane MacMahon has started a new wrestling federation with Paul Heyman. And the women's division is ruled with an iron grip by Bull Nakano.
;D
There’s always competition.
Now, with digital cable, there’s 400+ shows worth of programming to compete with.
Funny how that’s the stuff that’s beating him.
It’s when it is DIRECT competition in the form of another wrestling promotion that Vince shines the brightest.
I’ve never been able to completely figure that out.
If TNA ever becomes a formidable opposition, maybe I'll get one more chance to try.
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Still, the UW deserves to be ranked as one of the greatest in WWF history. At his peak he was even more popular than Hogan (though it didn't last long). No one can come close to this other than Austin at his peak
agreed.
warrior's career may not have been long, but for the time he was there, he was full throttle, became more popular than anyone, and had one of the most famous matches of all time with Hulk at WM6.
thats better than Jeff fucking Hardy.
it just is.
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I wonder how far UW would have gone had he been a cooperator and a "company man."
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I wonder how far UW would have gone had he been a cooperator and a "company man."
It would have been interesting to have him on the roster. Even if he cooperated, he was still bad in the ring. He probably would have jumped with Hogan, Nah etc...or maybe filled the void after Hogan and Bret wouldn't have climbed the card..who knows?
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Yeah.
What he had/did was incredible, but there just wasn't much of it or to it.
I would say the act would get old fast, but Hogan stuck around for a long time with the same act (and limitations).
Hulkster had a good persona with the fans behind it & him.
So did Warrior.
UW's poplularity peaked during the time when acts & limitations like his & Hogan's were acceptable with the WWF demographic.
Maybe part of Warrior's obstacle was that the WWF already had a Hulk Hogan and the fans weren't in dire need of another one.
My point is; even if they'd taken another bleached blond buff guy, sprayed him in red & yellow, and had him preach training, prayers, and vitamins, it still wouldn't have gotten him over the way it did for Hogan.
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That's a good point. I don't think he was as talented as Hogan in that sense. People were growing tired of Hulk being the hero, so he switched and was the biggest heel in the biggest company for 2 years. There wasn't much to Warrior, what you saw was what you got, and everything that's been said about him implies that he wouldn't or couldn't adapt his character.
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Further proof:
WCW reinvented Hogan to become what you wrote above.
WCW reinvented Hellwig and he went NOWHERE.
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Further proof:
WCW reinvented Hogan to become what you wrote above.
WCW reinvented Hellwig and he went NOWHERE.
I'm still wondering what to do with my oWn t-shirt? :-\
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Further proof:
WCW reinvented Hogan to become what you wrote above.
WCW reinvented Hellwig and he went NOWHERE.
Spot on.
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In the intro titling for WWE’s profile on Bruno Sammartino in their Top 50 Superstars of All Time DVD set, his last name is misspelled as “Summartino.” Ooopd! As noted earlier here on the website, he is ranked No. 24 in the DVD.