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Awesome. 8)
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Vitali Klitschko in boxing
Fedor Emelianenko in MMA
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Vitali Klitschko in boxing
Fedor Emelianenko in MMA
Tyson in his prime would have beaten Klitschko in his prime. Hell, even Lennox Lewis beat Klitschko.
MMA - possible but Tyson wasn't an MMA fighter so that rules that out.
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Tyson in his prime would have beaten Klitschko in his prime. Hell, even Lennox Lewis beat Klitschko.
MMA - possible but Tyson wasn't an MMA fighter so that rules that out.
Have you even seen Lewis Vs. Klitschko?
Lewis in his prime would've beaten Tyson also.
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Have you even seen Lewis Vs. Klitschko?
Lewis in his prime would've beaten Tyson also.
Sorry - not convincing enough - Tyson in his prime would have caned the pair of them.
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Agree with BigJ. Tyson was like the Mozart of boxing.... should have died at 30....
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Tyson was one of a kind... would have needed a mentor after Cus...
maybe the lilliput-dude from Karate Kid...
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Sorry - not convincing enough - Tyson in his prime would have caned the pair of them.
At the same time too.
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Have you even seen Lewis Vs. Klitschko?
Lewis in his prime would've beaten Tyson also.
I agree Lewis would beat Tyson , didn't Tyson duck him for years?
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Tex Cobb wouldnt beat Tyson but could take a nice beating.
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done to death this argument.
tyson was a once in a lifetime phenom.....many say he would have beat a prime Ali.....this is how great he was
lewis, holyfield....all cool cats and monsters.....but I think even they'll agree how incredible Tyson once was.....
btw, tyson would have knocked the fuck out of Vitali......r u kidding me.....go watch some old videos and interviews....the sound of his fist hitting those boxing bags was like death itself...it was like the cracking of thunder.....
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Tex Cobb wouldnt beat Tyson but could take a nice beating.
youtube Wesley 'Cabbage' Correira and look a this fights, ne can take a SHITLOAD of hits with those tiny ass gloves
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Lewis didnt have the chin to take on a prime Tyson and Klitschko would have been taken apart and stopped about the 7th. I will give Vitali his due tho hes one of the toughest Mofos out there and would spank most "cage warriors" with ease
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youtube Wesley 'Cabbage' Correira and look a this fights, ne can take a SHITLOAD of hits with those tiny ass gloves
Tex could take a damn good beating for sure ;D
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Tex could take a damn good beating for sure ;D
IMPOSSIBLE to knock that dude out in a streetbrawl lol
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IMPOSSIBLE to knock that dude out in a streetbrawl lol
You dont want to meet him on the street without a weapon, I hear he drinks alot of pepsi max that could be his secret 8)
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As good as Tyson was he would always have had trouble with Lewis. Lewis had one of the best jabs in HW history and time and time again tyson (even in his prime) had problems with big men who could jab and move. (Bonecrusher Smith, Buster Douglas)
Horses for courses.
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the prime version of ali (pre-draft) would have given mike fits and would have stopped him no problem.
Lennox would have been a good match-up...only problem with the "young" lennox was he left his chin out on a platter at times....young mike would have finished him imo. Older Lennox was a tad too slow for young mike I feel.
(http://imagecache5.art.com/p/LRG/20/2007/EGT6D00Z/muhammad-ali.jpg)
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As good as Tyson was he would always have had trouble with Lewis. Lewis had one of the best jabs in HW history and time and time again tyson (even in his prime) had problems with big men who could jab and move. (Bonecrusher Smith, Buster Douglas)
Horses for courses.
the bonecrusher smith went to a decision, but it was a snoozefest because smith didn't come to fight. Buster douglas was at the beginning of the end
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Was Mike a righty or a lefty? I assumed he was a righty, but I just noticed most of the knockouts were from left shots.
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Was Mike a righty or a lefty? I assumed he was a righty, but I just noticed most of the knockouts were from left shots.
right handed.
I'm a righty and it's just more fluid for me to "spin" left hooks off a combination then rights. plus you need to keep that right at bay to block the incoming left hook. If you out there bombing away right hooks.... you can get caught with a nice straight right, if you falling in..you'll get caught with a nice right upper cut. Basically there are risks associated with reaching over with a right hook as a right handed fighter
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done to death this argument.
tyson was a once in a lifetime phenom.....many say he would have beat a prime Ali.....this is how great he was
lewis, holyfield....all cool cats and monsters.....but I think even they'll agree how incredible Tyson once was.....
btw, tyson would have knocked the fuck out of Vitali......r u kidding me.....go watch some old videos and interviews....the sound of his fist hitting those boxing bags was like death itself...it was like the cracking of thunder.....
Vitali Klitschko - 38 wins, 37 by knockout, Greatest kayo percentage by FAR and maybe the hardest puncher over 12 rounds, ever.
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Was Mike a righty or a lefty? I assumed he was a righty, but I just noticed most of the knockouts were from left shots.
he is right handed. His knockout punch is his left hook. The hook is best to throw with your leading arm.
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you people keep forgetting that Tyson's mentally fucked up. He didn't know the meaning of lose. When he got clocked in the face, he didn't even know his brain was supposed to shut off and that he was supposed to get knocked out.
Not to sound like a queer highlight reel, but he truly had the heart of a lion at some point.
"Why are you talking to me? I only talk to women i fornicate with"
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the bonecrusher smith went to a decision, but it was a snoozefest because smith didn't come to fight. Buster douglas was at the beginning of the end
Maybe it was a bit of a snoozefest but it does not take away the fact that Tyson could not get to him. As for Douglas the reason it was the beginning of the end was down to Tyson losing that fight.
While he may have not prepared properly nobody was suggesting Tyson was on the wane going into that fight.
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you people keep forgetting that Tyson's mentally fucked up. He didn't know the meaning of lose. When he got clocked in the face, he didn't even know his brain was supposed to shut off and that he was supposed to get knocked out.
Not to sound like a queer highlight reel, but he truly had the heart of a lion at some point.
"Why are you talking to me? I only talk to women i fornicate with"
He sure knew it in this fight, he got melted. :D :D
Overall i do agree with your post, the dude had an iron chin in his prime, walked right through a lot of hard shots.
He was done here.
PS I think a Prime Lewis beats a prime Tyson 6 out of 10 fights.
Tyson had a problem with big, long guys who had skills, and Lewis was an excellent boxer with power as well.
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This man was taylor made to beat Mike Tyson. A brick shithouse with a granite chin. Foreman would of steamroled tyson.
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Anyone who truly understands the fight game would agree.
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I'm a Tyson guy - even have a signed framed picture on my wall (slightly homo), but still think the following fighters in their prime would have beat him:
Ali
Holmes
Lewis
Holyfield
Bowe
Foreman
Tyson looks awesome in highlight films knocking out lesser fighters, but as soon he faced good fighters that weren't scared and hit him back he folded.
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Awesome. 8)
Buster Douglas. ;D
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Big George would have put Tyson down. Tyson was tailor made for George -came straight ahead, aggressive and would trade with George -had excellent movement for sure with his peekaboo style but he would have walked into a man who was every bit as mean, powerful,determined and who would not have been afraid of Iron Mike . I can't see Mike getting past George -too much firepower by George, and George had a pretty good chin.
I think Liston would have put Tyson down also -his jab would neutralize Mike and his hook was among the best in boxing history .
I think Dempsey would be a 50 / 50 shot with Tyson -IF he had modern training methods and bulked him up etc...
In my opinion Mike would beat Ali because he would catch him early - styles make fights and Mike is all wrong for Ali -too aggressive , hard to hit, Tyson is a blown up version of Joe Frazier and we all know what Smokin Joe did to Ali, I have always wondered why there was no rematch with Foreman and Ali -I know all the arguments, but I still think Ali wanted no part of George. Ali beat George mentally, got in his head etc...If Ali could survive the first 4-5 rounds he could probably have danced his way to a decision -IF he got the fight to the later rounds.
Marciano -put him on modern training methods, bulk him up and I think he like Dempsey has a 50 / 50 shot
Prime Holmes - possibly, his jab was deadly and he could control the pace and tempo of a fight- again 50 / 50
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tyson = all hype
only stupid people thought otherwise
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Tex could take a damn good beating for sure ;D
He kicked Nicholas Cage's ass good and proper until he blew himself up with a grenade.
(http://losangeles.metromix.com/content_image/full/595225/560/370)
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He kicked Nicholas Cage's ass good and proper until he blew himself up with a grenade.
(http://losangeles.metromix.com/content_image/full/595225/560/370)
Tex is the man tough bastard
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you people keep forgetting that Tyson's mentally fucked up. He didn't know the meaning of lose. When he got clocked in the face, he didn't even know his brain was supposed to shut off and that he was supposed to get knocked out.
Not to sound like a queer highlight reel, but he truly had the heart of a lion at some point.
"Why are you talking to me? I only talk to women i fornicate with"
x2.till he got fucked up over Givins the only guys that went the distance ran,and when Tyson got close they held on for their lives.
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Tyson in his prime would have beaten Klitschko in his prime. Hell, even Lennox Lewis beat Klitschko.
MMA - possible but Tyson wasn't an MMA fighter so that rules that out.
lewis was actually losing badly to vk when they stopped the fight due to a serious eye cut brought on by lewis's dreads in the clinches. i'm actually a lewis fan.
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liston, dempsey?
oh man, why don't we throw in the old hobo down the road
Gus in the corner making strategies was a big help against the long limbed dancers
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fedor is king of fighting
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the prime version of ali (pre-draft) would have given mike fits and would have stopped him no problem.
Lennox would have been a good match-up...only problem with the "young" lennox was he left his chin out on a platter at times....young mike would have finished him imo. Older Lennox was a tad too slow for young mike I feel.
(http://imagecache5.art.com/p/LRG/20/2007/EGT6D00Z/muhammad-ali.jpg)
Good post except I'm not really convinced Ali would of stopped mike at his best, Alis speed and reflex's as a 20something was excellent and for the time extraordinary, timimg etc, the thing is Ali would have had a hard time ACTUALLY hitting Mike, and that among the obvious with Mike is the thing that IMO separated him from slimmer fighters in terms of structure, aggressiveness etc (Frazier,Marciano,Tua,etc) is that he very RARELY GOT HIT...and back in turn for every punch the fighters missed @ Tyson, they got power,speed,aggression etc straight back...and in a flash.
I don't doubt for a second Ali was MENTALLY tougher than Tyson (as was Frazer,Marciano etc) however a 1987-88 Tyson against a prime Ali (IMO the night he fought Cleveland Williams) would be a toss-up as a result...if and its just that, Tyson threw combinations, head movement, footspeed, handspeed etc all going on the night...i don't see any reason why he wouldn't stop Ali...and quick, on the other hand if and again its that, Ali could frustrate Tyson by turning him, pushing his head down, ACTUALLY MANAGED TO HIT TYSON CLEAN enough for Mike to take any notice, GETTING INTO HIS HEAD MENTALLY etc...who knows...the result IMO is to close to call
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Vitali Klitschko in boxing
Fedor Emelianenko in MMA
that is some of the stupidest shit i have ever heard on here
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that is some of the stupidest shit i have ever heard on here
I disagree.
Vitali would have never been intimidated going into the fight, he has awesome size, granite chin (never even knocked down!), punching power (greatest kayo percentage of all time) heart, and most importantly his lean back style of defense which was giving big reach guy like Lewis problems would have been MUCH harder for a shorter reach guy like Tyson to be able to connect....All in all just a terrible match up for Tyson stylistically.
Plus Vitali was beating a still very good Lennox Lewis before the fight was called before after a cut.
Mike Tyson never beat a really good fighter, only tomato cans..,..certainly no one even close to Klitchsko.
Vitali takes the fight by the 8th or 9th round when Tyson quits like a little bitch.
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