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No comment on the picture ;D lol...
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Sunday that she will push her assault-weapons ban as an amendment if it doesn’t get into the package that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) allows on the floor.
Reid has said he will allow an open amendment process for gun-control legislation on the Senate floor - which gun-control proponents fear could weaken a final bill - but Feinstein said on CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday that she would also force a vote on renewing the assault-weapons ban.
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http://www.presstv.com/usdetail/285859.html
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sucking up to her liberal base. bill no go in congress, we all know it.
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sucking up to her liberal base. bill no go in congress, we all know it.
Totally agree. She knows passing this is impossible and is only doing it to impress her constituents.
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Totally agree. She knows passing this is impossible and is only doing it to impress her constituents.
Which is why I can't understand people getting so upset.
she's a bag of shit anti-gunner who tries crap like this all the time. Dems admit the bill will get no where. They're enjoying their 15 minutes of milking it for their base in the press.. but it'll be just like the many bills intro'd by the Repub congress in 2011.2012 when they KNEW the bills were going nowhere. Just sucking up to their donor base and primary voter base.
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It just hit me!
My cat sleeps about 20 hours a day.
She has her food prepared for her.
Her meals are provided at no cost to her.
She visits the Dr. once a year for her checkup, and again during the year, if any medical needs arise.
For this she pays nothing, and nothing is required of her.
She lives in a nice neighborhood in a house that is much larger than she needs, but she is not required to do any upkeep.
If she makes a mess, someone else cleans it up.
She has her choice of luxurious places to sleep.
Se receives these accommodations absolutely free.
She is living like a Queen, and has absolutely no expenses whatsoever.
All of her costs are picked up by others who earn a living.
I was just thinking about all this and suddenly it hit me like a ton of bricks ~
My Cat is a CONGRESSWOMAN!
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sucking up to her liberal base. bill no go in congress, we all know it.
I hope the hell you're right. As of late, the repubs have been backing down and compromising on too much that leaving the country in a worse state.
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I hope the hell you're right. As of late, the repubs have been backing down and compromising on too much that leaving the country in a worse state.
Repubs are caving on some issues that they are NEVER going to get back to 51% national support on.
But gun control ain't one of them :)
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Which is why I can't understand people getting so upset.
she's a bag of shit anti-gunner who tries crap like this all the time. Dems admit the bill will get no where. They're enjoying their 15 minutes of milking it for their base in the press.. but it'll be just like the many bills intro'd by the Repub congress in 2011.2012 when they KNEW the bills were going nowhere. Just sucking up to their donor base and primary voter base.
It's irritating to me because it is so obviously political. Her constituents should realize how they are being manipulated.
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It's irritating to me because it is so obviously political. Her constituents should realize how they are being manipulated.
agreed. Same on the far right. "Obama gonna take our guns! Send $10,000 to the NRA today!"
it's all bullshit. dems agree this
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Which is why I can't understand people getting so upset.
she's a bag of shit anti-gunner who tries crap like this all the time. Dems admit the bill will get no where. They're enjoying their 15 minutes of milking it for their base in the press.. but it'll be just like the many bills intro'd by the Repub congress in 2011.2012 when they KNEW the bills were going nowhere. Just sucking up to their donor base and primary voter base.
ever heard the phrase "all it takes for evil to suceed is for good men to stand by and do nothing"?
replace "evil" with stupidity and youll have a start. I dont expect someone like yourself to understand but this idiocy is being taught to young ppl who will grow up and influence legislation within the next 20 years.
This idiocy needs to be called out and shown for what it really is anywhere and everywhere someone is stupid enough to spout it.
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ever heard the phrase "all it takes for evil to suceed is for good men to stand by and do nothing"?
replace "evil" with stupidity and youll have a start. I dont expect someone like yourself to understand but this idiocy is being taught to young ppl who will grow up and influence legislation within the next 20 years.
This idiocy needs to be called out and shown for what it really is anywhere and everywhere someone is stupid enough to spout it.
It doesn't matter what they teach kids in school.
240 has a young son. Do you for a minute think his son will grow up to be anti 2nd amendment, regardless of how school curriculums are slanted?
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Dianne Feinstein Gun Control Hypocrite
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What a lying bitch.
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It doesn't matter what they teach kids in school.
240 has a young son. Do you for a minute think his son will grow up to be anti 2nd amendment, regardless of how school curriculums are slanted?
240's young son is screwed, he will grow up justifying anything and everything his heart desires simply b/c he feels he wants to do it.
and pointing out one or two examples doesnt change the fact that this idiotic propaganda is spewed day in and day out and needs to be called out for what it is.
worry about canada and let us worry about the US, piss off
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Government Officials Can Still Own Assault Weapons Under Feinstein Bill
http://www.ibtimes.com/government-officials-can-still-own-assault-weapons-under-feinstein-bill-1039506
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Government Officials Can Still Own Assault Weapons Under Feinstein Bill
http://www.ibtimes.com/government-officials-can-still-own-assault-weapons-under-feinstein-bill-1039506
of course they do, its a do as I say not as I do kind of thing.
Gun control has very little to do with guns.
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Nice!
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Jews have a terrible track record in the USA. They fuck up wherever they go. She really needs to shut up, quit and go lie under a rock till she dies. I am extremely upset that this hag had children. What a pity!
Feinstein was born Dianne Emiel Goldman[6] in San Francisco, to Betty (née Rosenburg), a former model, and Leon Goldman, a nationally renowned surgeon. Feinstein's paternal grandparents were Jewish emigrants from Poland, while her maternal grandparents, who were of the Russian Orthodox faith, were from St. Petersburg, Russia.[7] Her mother also had either German or Jewish ancestry.[8][9] Feinstein has identified her own religion as Jewish.[1]
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It's irritating to me because it is so obviously political. Her constituents should realize how they are being manipulated.
That would be like asking sheep to act independent
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Feinstein Says PTSD Veterans Who Fought For The Second Amendment Shouldn’t Have Guns
Freedom Outpost ^ | Mar. 8, 2013 | Tim Brown
Posted on Friday, March 08, 2013 12:41:07 PM by EXCH54FE
On Thursday Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT) held a full committee meeting to vote on a bipartisan measure that is claimed to curb illegal gun trafficking and purchasing, but is more akin to “thought legislation” for those purchasing firearms. During that meeting, Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) advocated for the removal of veteran’s rights to keep and bear arms by stating, “find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don’t have access to this kind of weapon.” Pick up her statement around the 42:20 mark.
She then completely lied about the ability of a “bump stock,” which she called a “slide stock,” claiming that it altered an AR-15 to go from semi-automatic to fully automatic. It does no such thing. The trigger is reset every time the stock “bumps.”In fact, you can get the same effect with any semi-automatic firearms by using your thumb and your belt loop. Does the Senator from California want to ban belt loops?
She claims that she is concerned because calls her come into her office as if more gun control is “some wild eyed scheme.”
“It is not,” she affirmed, though we all know that is exactly what it is.
(Excerpt) Read more at freedomoutpost.com ...
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Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) advocated for the removal of veteran’s rights to keep and bear arms by stating, “find a way that veterans who are incapacitated for one reason or another mentally don’t have access to this kind of weapon.”
Wait a second, 333386...
I think every getbigger will tell you that I have hated FineSwine since minute #1 on getbig. total gun grabbing kneepadder mess.
HOWEVER...
I don't want ANY person who is classified as mentally incapacitated to have access to a weapon - THAT IS THE LAW ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, a person who served in war is a hero, yes I applaud their service and would buy one lunch and shake his hand - however, a person with mental impairment doesn't always have full understanding of actions or consequences, and may lash out and kill very quickly, never realizing what they are doing. The reason they're labeled PTSD is so that they can get treatment and hopefully get better.
33, please tell me you don't believe ANY person with mental impairment should be allowed to have a gun? I support the troops 1000%, but whether you are a janitor in Iowa or a soldier back home from Iraq... if you don't have mental ability to understand your actions, you shouldn't be walking around with a gun.
What do you guys think? Should the govt make exceptions for the current mental impairment law for those who served?
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240's young son is screwed, he will grow up justifying anything and everything his heart desires simply b/c he feels he wants to do it.
And you base this conclusion on what?
and pointing out one or two examples doesnt change the fact that this idiotic propaganda is spewed day in and day out and needs to be called out for what it is.
Of course it is spewed. I'm not denying that. I'm simply saying that since we recognize this to be the case, how effective do we really believe it will be if we are proactive in countering that message within the home? Effective parenting CAN go a long way towards neutralizing propaganda efforts.
worry about canada and let us worry about the US, piss off
:'( ouch. That wasn't very nice. :'(
Would love to not think about the mess south of our mutual border, ...but unfortunately, your problems are spilling out into our realm. Assinine decisions, made by assinine decision makers have consequences that affect others. I guess you could say I like to examine a problem from afar, and develop a strategy well before the problem gets closer... something you guys should have done 12 years ago when you were first warned.
ps: Don't be so mean & nasty to me. With the mess you're all in, ...you need all the help you can get.
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What do you guys think? Should the govt make exceptions for the current mental impairment law for those who served?
anyone?
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anyone?
An evaluation by a mental health professional would be helpful. Certain mental illnesses/personality disorders result in self harm while others are more prone to externalizing. A competent mental health professional can identify these characteristics. To give you a more straight forward answer, I'd take it on a case by case basis. Bouts of mental impairment can be transient and non-violent.
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An evaluation by a mental health professional would be helpful. Certain mental illnesses/personality disorders result in self harm while others are more prone to externalizing. A competent mental health professional can identify these characteristics. To give you a more straight forward answer, I'd take it on a case by case basis. Bouts of mental impairment can be transient and non-violent.
right now, the nationwide background check will 100% bounce ANy person with mental impairment. You can't be expected to follow gun laws if you're impaired. it makes sense - you haev a lot of people who are on social security for drug use or because they can't stop cutting their wrists or smashing puppies... I'm okay if they don't have access to weapons, because clearly they are a danger to society.
it's tricky to say "on a case by case basis".... once you allow certain groups of people to step over that mental impairment thing, you have a LOT of people suddenly suing to own a gun, even though they openly admit they cannot function in society without some really bad symptoms. It's tough to tell an American "you can't buy a gun because you're legally a little off".... but you can rest assured, should they get a gun and shoot up a mcdonalds, their defense will be "not my fault, I was crazy, the govt should never have given me that gun in the first place".
Indeed a tricky issue.
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Assault Weapons Ban To Clear Political Hurdle, But Path Through Senate Remains Unclear
Posted: 03/12/2013 9:07 am EDT
WASHINGTON -- A ban on the production and sale of certain assault weapons will clear a major political hurdle on Thursday, as Democratic lawmakers say they have the votes necessary to move the legislation through the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Once through that committee, however, the measure is likely to hit another, likely insurmountable snag, in the form of the 60-vote threshold in the U.S. Senate, where the bill faces skepticism among moderate Democrats. And that could leave leadership in a bind, as another major component of President Barack Obama's gun policy agenda -- a ban on high-capacity magazines -- is part of the bill.
As of now, Democrats are waxing optimistic about the prospects of moving through Congress various forms of gun policy, which continue to perform well in public opinion polls.
Already, a bill that would strengthen the anti-trafficking law has made it through committee with Republican support. Another bill that would expand background checks for private gun purchases suffered a setback when the chief Republican negotiator, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), backed away at the last minute, concerned over provisions that would require a sales record for transactions. But Coburn explicitly said he wasn't done talking. And even then, aides working on the bill say that there are other Republicans who will back the bill in its final state.
The Assault Weapons Ban, easily the most controversial component of the president's agenda, is a trickier political proposition. In recent days, it's been made clear that the bill has the necessary support to make it through the Judiciary Committee. The chairman of that committee, Sen. Pat Leahy (D-Vt.), confirmed last week that he would vote yes, albeit with some reservations.
"I have some problems with an overall legislation, but I'm going to go vote for it to get the matter out and [send it to] the floor so it's not just those of us in this room will get a chance to talk about it or act on it but the whole Senate -- all hundred of us," said the Vermont Democrat, who had been coy about his intentions.
The only other Democratic question mark on the committee, Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), plans to vote yes as well, his office confirmed to The Huffington Post.
That means that the measure should make it through the committee and to the Senate floor by a 10-to-8 vote (assuming that Republicans on the committee oppose it en masse, as is expected). Lawmakers expect a vote to occur on Thursday, as Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the bill's sponsor, is tied up with intelligence oversight issues until then.
Once through committee, things get complicated. Don Stewart, a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), didn't say whether or not Republicans would mount a filibuster of the measure, although it's widely assumed they will. He did, however, suggest that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) might end up deciding to keep the bill off the floor to spare his moderate members -- and himself -- a tough vote.
"While the administration acknowledged that there is much more to be done to enforce existing law, Sen. McConnell’s first test of any new legislation the majority leader decides to bring before the Senate will be on whether or not it infringes on the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms," emailed Stewart, with deliberate use of italics.
"That’s dumb," responded Adam Jentelson, a spokesman for Reid. "Reid has said publicly a bunch of times that he’ll make sure the Assault Weapons Ban gets a vote on the floor, irrespective of whether it passed judiciary or not."
The question facing Reid, indeed, isn't whether or not to give the ban a vote, but rather what form the bill should take when it is presented for consideration. If the legislation goes forward as it is, it would also include a ban on high-capacity magazines. Lawmakers and aides are more bullish on that provision getting the necessary support in the Senate than they are about the AWB as a whole. As such, they don't want to risk the provision going down with the entire bill. Reid could seek to strip the measure so that it is considered on its own. Or he could consider a separate piece of legislation to ban high-capacity magazines, authored by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.), that already exists.
Talks of strategy, Jentelson said, have not gotten that far. Another top Senate aide, meanwhile, said that regardless of which strategic path Reid chooses, the expectation is that he'll move quickly.
"It is a safe assumption to think sooner rather than later on the Senate floor activity," the aide said.
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33, I never saw your answer.
Do you believe soldiers that come home with PTSD should be able to buy weapons?
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33, I never saw your answer.
Do you believe soldiers that come home with PTSD should be able to buy weapons?
Not banned forever.
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Not banned forever.
But you feel soldiers should be denied the right to buy rifles as long as they are still classified as suffering from PTSD? They can buy guns again once they are deemed cured?
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But you feel soldiers should be denied the right to buy rifles as long as they are still classified as suffering from PTSD? They can buy guns again once they are deemed cured?
I guess
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I guess
it's a weird line, and i think FineSwine took some initial criticism for saying she supports that is already the law.