Everyone knows if these guys go completely off drugs for 4 months their physique falls apart. When on they flood the magazines, youtube and the internet of their "ON" pictures. When they are looking like crap off none of the public sees them. More than one natural wonder has been see looking like crap. Having said that has anyone seen Mike look like garbage? He's been in the game a long time. Not saying he is clean but he trains year round. Robby was another one that always seemed to be in amazing shape. Arnold, Franco and Zane would go off completely after a contest and they would lose a lot. Look at the growing list of pro bodybuilders of today's era that have gone off the juice permanently. Many looked like they never did a push up in their life.