Yeah Matt, tell us how naturals have the same testosterone levels as a 12 year old girl. Tell us how it's impossible to get big without drugs. Tell us how only drug users bench 315. TELL US. You obviously know so much about training.
What a clown.
Obviously I was joking about the test remarks, that is why I included myself in the list. It's called self deprecating humour.
It's impossible to get pro size without drugs. What part of this don't you understand?
Also, a flat bench press of 400 as a natural is world class. Very few naturals bench over 315. Again, is this unclear? In a city of over 100,000, at a recent bench comp, the top lifter put up 465 at a body weight of 290 (and obviously juiced). Where are these huge benchers which allegedly exist at every gym? Believe it or not, I am one of the few in my gym who is does working sets with 225+ on the flat bench for reps and consistently using dumbbells over 100 pounds. Maybe the getbig talkers are an accurate reflection of reality and I just live in a very weak city. The discrepancy between what I see on this board and what I see in the gyms I go to is huge.
And training doesn't mean squat compared to nutrition, gear, and genetics. I can't say for sure which of those three factors is most important, but training is definitely less than all three. If you have the right genetics, eat and juice huge, you will grow huge even if you train like a kitten - as numerous pros have proven. Some work their ass off, and others look like they are on vacation in the gym.