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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #100 on: October 03, 2007, 06:44:55 PM »
I think it's funny all the people that predict doom and gloom for the pro ranks.

Attendance is up, prize money is up and there's a webcast now. These are good things.

Just gotta work on those placings a little

Seems like bodybuilding is starting to find its place with the new media technology.

Deluca and the boys are doing a good job at exploring it.

Hopefully others will follow.
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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #101 on: October 03, 2007, 07:02:14 PM »
I think Wolf looked awesome- I would have had him 4th behind Jay Dex and Victor in no paticular order...

My only gripe is that comparison between him and Jay you guys keep showing of the front crab most muscular.

Wolf looks huge no doubt, but he beats Cutler in that shot mainly because Jay poses like a retard in that shot and doesnt push his traps forward. Hes been fucking up that pose for a couple of years now. If Jay executed it correctly I dont think Wolf beats him in that pose.

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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #102 on: October 03, 2007, 07:03:05 PM »
Milos-

I agree 100% with everything you just said....

I too, would like to know why there werent sufficient/ adaquate comparisons...ANYONE in the top 5 should be compared, and especially where there are cross-over comparisons  Ex: ( top 5 are called, next 5 are called...I want to see 4,5,6,7 called next...)

I would also like to see what I call "fan friendly" callouts when they are within reason....Johnnie Jackson and Melvin...Darrem and JOJ, and Melvin, etc....all lend to more exciting show.

Nice post Bob. I'm serious man, really nice post.

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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #103 on: October 03, 2007, 08:01:48 PM »
Totally disagree...from 1º to 3º he really deserved a spot.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=172274.50

Victors calf's looked much improved. Must be those...umm..seated calf raises   ;D

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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #104 on: December 02, 2007, 02:43:45 PM »
Hi Bob,

Here we are again...
As you announced back in 2006 - you have received conformation from Mr. Jim Manion that starting with IRONMAN 2007 we will have MORE COMPARISONS and if I remember correctly you even used a term: top ten will all be crisscrossed and compared...

At the IRONMAN we had situation where hardly any comparisons took place and as you know - after the prejudging we had somewhat uncomfortable discussion with the judges...

That day Mr. Manion called me and when I asked him WHAT HAPPENED - he suggested that possibly some of the judges were NOT informed about this NEW POLICY (so much for putting things in writing - I guess?)

Well, after I must say pretty good year of NUMEROUS COMPARISONS in many shows (still not as many as expected - but definitely MORE THAN EVER) I was looking foreword to Mr. Olympia - FINAL CONTEST OF THE YEAR...SUPERBOWL OF BODYBUILDING...and being that prejudging is separated from the finals (on Friday night) - it was safe to assume that WE WILL HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD TO COMPARE each and every athlete even with their own shadows...if we had to...

How and why we didn't have MORE COMPARISONS and how and why some athletes were denied a chance to compete - it is a question I have to ask...

And while some people will suggest that I am talking about "my athletes" - I would like to say - all the athletes are "my athletes" (as just like you Bob - I do care for all the IFBB pros...so fact that I am maybe helping some in preparation doesn't mean I am now against any other...I only like to bring the best out of each and every guy and help them reach their full potential).

So, HOW (!?) for the love of God could IFBB judging panel NOT want to see Dennis Wolf standing right next to (rather: in between) Jay and Victor?
And how for example AC champion Johnnie Jackson was never compared with Melvin Anthony (as Melvin "predicted" at the press conference)...or Ronnie, Dexter, Jay...and how about my dear friend - Hidetada Yamagishi (who's sponsor organized large group of Japanese fans to come to Vegas and witness the history -as Hide is the very first Japanese bodybuilder to ever step on Mr. Olympia stage...just to realize - head judge didn't even know how to pronounce Hidetada's name, making fun of his mistakes...as he thought he is being funny mispronouncing Hidetada's name 5-6 times...).
Guests form Japan were deeply disturbed with that and I must say: rightfully so...

Could it be that after failing to remember his name judge decided NOT to call Hide for additional comparisons (I saw Hide worthy of being compared to his ex training partner Silvio, Gustavo, David H....etc)


When we are talking about THE OLYMPIA...Joe Weider's Mr. Olympia - as ULTIMATE CONTEST at the end of EVERY YEAR - which determines exactly WHO IS THE BEST BODYBUILDER IN THE WORLD...we should have MORE comparisons than normally and certainly not less.

While there are many bellow average IFBB pros at some IFBB professional events - certain comparisons among the athletes are possibly NOT necessary (due to obvious difference in quality)...but Olympians are "special breed" and they are not there by accident...they earned their right to step on that stage through qualification process - as they had to prove themselves - competing and placing in the top 3 in some of the shows prior to Mr. O.

And if judges somehow overlook somebody on Friday...they could see some photos on the Internet (like the "instant replay")....review it... and maybe realize that some competitors DESERVE to be compared to otherwise "protected" champions...

Fans deserve to see it...the whole world does...but we are still not doing it?!?

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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #105 on: December 02, 2007, 02:49:53 PM »
The only excuse that makes any sense for not comparing Dennis to Jay and Vic is that the judges knew that was a bad comparison for their bought champion.

look how wolf is dwarfing jay here! why do you think comparisons never took place? jay was already declared the winner before the show started!

perfect exemple why ifbb is a joke, stupid juges and owner.
are you delusional?

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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #106 on: September 28, 2009, 08:04:02 PM »
ok...time to revisit... ;D

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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #107 on: September 28, 2009, 11:40:46 PM »
ok...time to revisit... ;D

Wolf just needs to compete at every show as he looked in 2007.  If he can bring up his upper back thickness too, then great.
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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #108 on: September 29, 2009, 07:34:07 AM »
I agree with what seemed to be lack of comparisons, with 6 guys at once etc. At the Arnold, if i recall correctly, they were worked a lot harder. The front runners where called out time and time again at that show. It should have been similar at the O.

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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #109 on: September 29, 2009, 12:50:17 PM »
There is a fine line between enough comparisons, and beating them into the ground.

So far, I have yet to hear one single complaint from any of the athletes

I thought they had plenty of stage time, and enough crossover comparisons

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Re: BOB - WHAT HAPPENED WITH MORE COMPARISONS RULE?
« Reply #110 on: September 29, 2009, 01:54:09 PM »
There is a fine line between enough comparisons, and beating them into the ground.

So far, I have yet to hear one single complaint from any of the athletes

I thought they had plenty of stage time, and enough crossover comparisons

You probably dont hear more "complaints" from the atheletes, because the atheletes are rather apethetic to change. You yourself said that everytime you tried to have an atheletes meeting, that no one would show up. Sadly I dont think that pointing out a lack of complaints is really saying all that much. They are unhappy with the status quo, but too lazy to do anything about it.

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