just to be clear gh15, I am 6'3 1/2". I was 295-310 during football in my senior year of high school and wrestled at 226 at about 7% bf. (thats 14 years ago) Without steroids, hormones, etc. I ate red meat almost every day unless I was cutting weight for wrestling. At my largest as an adult was about 5 years ago at about 300 lbs working in a meatroom, slinging cows all day, and taking in about 3 lbs of red meat a day, about half of that was raw right off the cow. I got gout and had to cut back on the red meat though and I have come down my current weight. I don't eat super clean and i still go out for drinks about 2 times a week, but at my weight I still wear a size 36 pants which is loose on me.
I just think your statements are not realistic. To claim that after 30 you can't put on any lean mass without hormones is a lie. Let me ask you this then...if I were to go on heavy cycles of hormones and aas how large would I be? Would I be on stage at 290? 300? more than that?
I would just be another freak in the crowd, doing terrible things to my body for some short lived glory in the bodybuilding world, and the negatives of that life far outweigh the positives. Gay 4 pay, illegal activity that could land me in jail, damage to my kidneys, liver, brain, body, etc... It's just not worth it in my opinion.
so you are 6'4,,6'4 is antena and inorder to look normal needs to be 220-230lb at the absolute minimum for remember 1 inch = 7lb so at 265lb you were and are equivem\lent to a 5'10 lifter that is 220 plus minum ,,
this is nothing to write home about and a very average statue,,this statue is achived by the use of hormones if you standing low double digit or any single digit bodyfat%,,you can eat red meat from morning to evening for 10 years in a raw and only thing you will get with no hormones and in some cases with hormones = HEART ATTACK,,too much of red meat = faster path into your first heart surgery and not into the 260lb ,,in any case anything impressive on your height would be 280lb or over at low double or single digit%,,at 265 you better be 7-8% inorder to look anything close ti impressive because lower double is good and nice ...maybe impressive for general public along with your height but to the competetive and experience bodybuilder you are average at best at low double digit 265lb 6'4,,
now if you want put pictures of yourself and i will tell you the exavct products you been to including accure doses you took,,gh15 will also tell you if you are truly naturla as you claim you are simply by looking at yoru body fat% and skin tecture and thickness,,
remember friend ,,you are talking to god of hormones,,gh15 is getting payed for advice a lot of money and have seen worked with trained with and competed with the worst addicts and the less worst addicts,,
in general if you ever stook at 265lb at anything remotely close to low single digit at in 6-7% even at 6'4 ,..you were hormonized and used hormones and related products,,the 6'4 guys are usually easily to blow up and get a red swole look their skin tecture is very noticable when hormonized since it stretched thin on their long tors,,rare are the ones who stand single digit% at 265lb even at 6'4 ,,with out hormones it is not possible if you like you say been 225lb at 7% NATURALLY you were quivelent to 180lb guy at 5'10 with 7% ..possible for the genetic elite when it comes to frame but inorder to get there to that 7% at 225 you had to come from a lot bigger and have decent low double bodyfat% which demands the use of hormones and food,,
again its too much talk ,,ciome with pictures and i will analyze to the t anything you took to this date including everything else you asked from members,,you can post pumped pics none pumped,,flexing not flexing ,,in bed outside bed dont matter ,,a simple pic in normal light ,,can have shirt on too