Do you think there is any point in a natural base?

[chaos]

I ate a peanut butter and jelly sandwich today.

Toasted?

[chaos]

@chaos, 6ft 210 shredded is exactly my current size, 6ft2 220 "lean" isnt the same thing

I was actually close to what you are now. If you saw me back then you would have thought I was just some skinny guy, I looked 185. I lived the lifestyle for 5 years religiously. Then I shifted towards strength and have no desire to do that again. Honestly, my frame and my joints are huge,I'd bet much much larger than yours. If I remember correct my arms were barely 16" and I wore a size 30 pants. I looked like a stick. 

[Natural Man]

and in 20 years, you'll still somehow believe working out can make up for being 5'3"

hahahaha, brutal.

[Mr Nobody]

I was actually close to what you are now. If you saw me back then you would have thought I was just some skinny guy, I looked 185. I lived the lifestyle for 5 years religiously. Then I shifted towards strength and have no desire to do that again. Honestly, my frame and my joints are huge,I'd bet much much larger than yours. If I remember correct my arms were barely 16" and I wore a size 30 pants. I looked like a stick. 

Now why do you say you shifted towards strength but no desire to do that again?

[Army of One]

I was actually close to what you are now. If you saw me back then you would have thought I was just some skinny guy, I looked 185. I lived the lifestyle for 5 years religiously. Then I shifted towards strength and have no desire to do that again. Honestly, my frame and my joints are huge,I'd bet much much larger than yours. If I remember correct my arms were barely 16" and I wore a size 30 pants. I looked like a stick.  

In other words you got lazy and got fatter

[dj181]

Now why do you say you shifted towards strength but no desire to do that again?

you're a lifetime natty and you competed, so what was your highest stage ready bodyweight at 6'2"?

[Mr Nobody]

you're a lifetime natty and you competed, so what was your highest stage ready bodyweight at 6'2"?

210.

[Griffith]

In other words you got lazy and got fatter

I'm glad I did the main bulking up phases in my 20's, awesome memories haha

I miss going to my favourite little cafe and having a steak, eggs, bacon, toast with jam, butter, a huge coffee and then a waffle with ice-cream afterwards 

Now for me, going into the 30's it's prob better to try stay lean and let the body get used to a leaner bodyweight.

[dj181]

210.

that's damn impressive

[no one]

that's damn impressive

agreed. a 6'2 210 natty is pretty much at the top end of what is possible.

hell some guys who juice cant get stage lean at 6'2 210. props.

[Mr Nobody]

agreed. a 6'2 210 natty is pretty much at the top end of what is possible.

hell some guys who juice cant get stage lean at 6'2 210. props.

Thanks, genes rule. Not too bad yourself from the pics I have seen.

[chaos]

Now why do you say you shifted towards strength but no desire to do that again?

I have no desire to be that lean again. Just hasn't interested me.

[Griffith]

agreed. a 6'2 210 natty is pretty much at the top end of what is possible.

hell some guys who juice cant get stage lean at 6'2 210. props.

Yes, though it also depends on bone structure and density.

He said he has very big joints so that will add to the weight.

[bigmc]

I have no desire to be that lean again. Just hasn't interested me.

as long as you are happy with who you

who gives a fuck

[Mr Nobody]

I have no desire to be that lean again. Just hasn't interested me.

Are you still flipping tires if so get Cswol done there for a challenge.

[chaos]

Here's an idea for some of you to try, you're all about measuring your biceps and your waists right? Try measuring your wrists and your knees.
My wrists = 8 3/8"
My knees = 18 1/2"

Let's compare joint size.
Slightly homo.

[dj181]

wrist=6 inches

knee=14 inches

cock=2.5 inches

[chaos]

wrist=6 inches

knee=14 inches

cock=2.5 inches

[240 is Back]

it'd be cool to clone myself at age 12...

keep the version of me that I currently have, skinnytwink getbig posting machine.

and the other version would stay single, never have kids, use gear, sell gear, chase ass til I'm 50, live reckless.

Then one day we meet in an elevator and fight to the death.  And coked-up bodybuilder rob kicks the shit out of rob homemaker.

[flinstones1]

genetics matter...of course. if your meant to be a big muscular guy you will know it...I was 215lbs in high school...natural

[anabolichalo]

genetics matter...of course. if your meant to be a big muscular guy you will know it...I was 215lbs in high school...natural

you are as delusional as tbombz if not worse

[flinstones1]

you are as delusional as tbombz if not worse

keep telling yourself that to make you feel better. the reality is Your juice best couldn't come close to me in that photo, honest to god  I had never even  touched a prohormone there...

[anabolichalo]

keep telling yourself that to make you feel better. the reality is Your juice best couldn't come close to me in that photo, honest to god  I had never even  touched a prohormone there...

couldnt come close in terms of looking like shit? in terms of ugly stretch marks? in terms of gyno?

what are your parameters?

[flinstones1]

couldnt come close in terms of looking like shit? in terms of ugly stretch marks? in terms of gyno?

what are your parameters?

translation- anabolichalo on gear cant even come close to what flinstones looked like as a natural. Your a fucking bitch, not even in my area code.
 
stretch marks?  real lifters life for those....there a badge of honor and a sign that what your doing is working. there 50 times worse now...lol.

ps are you a girl? keep using your cocoa butter lol

[ukjeff]

http://i.imgur.com/VbWJL0F.jpg

have you had the gyno removed yet?