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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: _aj_ on April 13, 2014, 05:02:43 AM
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On Friday morning, I did my 5th glute shot. I have been alternating, so it was my 3rd shot in my right glute. The first shot had PIP for almost a week! The next two appear to have pretty good PIP for at least a day.
It does get better, right? Any strategies for minimizing it? Heating pad? Ice? Stretching? Foam roller? Willing to try anything.
Thanks.
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First few times it hurts for longer until you get used to it a bit more. Then you will be pinning no problem and not even thinking about it. When you get a bit of scar tissue buildup it starts to hurt a bit more again though.
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I'm still bit of a novice but some people talk about warming up the oil, I've never bothered with that.
I do trickle a little out before I shoot though, goes in like butter! I also go really slow, obviously easier depending on where you're injecting.
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Yes, but it may just be the gear itself. Gear made under questionable conditions will usually have more alcohol in it to prevent any contaminants from growing. So you won't get an abcess, but the gear will be painful.
No easy way to know without trying other brands. But yes, good gear should be painless, and your muscles shouldn't keep hurting after injecting.
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Yes, but it may just be the gear itself. Gear made under questionable conditions will usually have more alcohol in it to prevent any contaminants from growing. So you won't get an abcess, but the gear will be painful.
No easy way to know without trying other brands. But yes, good gear should be painless, and your muscles shouldn't keep hurting after injecting.
Yeah, but the left glute takes it well, whereas the right glute gets insulted easily. Same size pin and same gear.
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Yeah, but the left glute takes it well, whereas the right glute gets insulted easily. Same size pin and same gear.
Hmm I wouldn't sweat it then. It's only been three shots in that site, most people who say "it doesn't hurt" have probably had 100+ shots in their glute.
Does the PIP impact your ability to walk/workout? If not, I would just wait for it to get better, I'd imagine you won't feel anything by the 7-10th shot.
If it's causing you to limp, look up the "ventroglute" injection site. It's on the side of your hip, can hold a lot of oil, and any pain will be minimal. Very underrated injection site
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Hmm I wouldn't sweat it then. It's only been three shots in that site, most people who say "it doesn't hurt" have probably had 100+ shots in their glute.
Does the PIP impact your ability to walk/workout? If not, I would just wait for it to get better, I'd imagine you won't feel anything by the 7-10th shot.
If it's causing you to limp, look up the "ventroglute" injection site. It's on the side of your hip, can hold a lot of oil, and any pain will be minimal. Very underrated injection site
Thanks. Once I start going, the pip subsides until I sit around the office again. Grrrrr....
I might look into the ventroglute site if it persists.
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Switched to a #25 this morning in my troublesome right glute. Takes for fucking ever to draw the oil through that fucker and pushing it took at least 2x the time. But if it keeps my protesting glute quieter, it's worth it.
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Switched to a #25 this morning in my troublesome right glute. Takes for fucking ever to draw the oil through that fucker and pushing it took at least 2x the time. But if it keeps my protesting glute quieter, it's worth it.
The #25 seems to be much nicer. That, or my ass is getting used to being a pincushion.
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The #25 seems to be much nicer. That, or my ass is getting used to being a pincushion.
how many cc are you doing in your shots?
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how many cc are you doing in your shots?
1 mighty cc per shot once a week.
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1 mighty cc per shot once a week.
ok then you just have some painful stuff, which does not mean anything bad, we all have come across painful stuff, you should get used to it, word of advise, if you come across painless gear, stick to that source, painless gear is must for myself.
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ok then you just have some painful stuff, which does not mean anything bad, we all have come across painful stuff, you should get used to it, word of advise, if you come across painless gear, stick to that source, painless gear is must for myself.
It's oddly only painful on my right side. My left glute takes it happily.
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It's oddly only painful on my right side. My left glute takes it happily.
Damn I just noticed your avy bro. Lookin sick!
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Damn I just noticed your avy bro. Lookin sick!
thick as a phallus.
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thick as a phallus.
X2
Dude carries an impressive build naturally considering he's brand new to HRT.
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Dude carries an impressive build naturally considering he's brand new to HRT.
I forgot about that.
great looking natural.
or great looking insta-respondo
do we know any pertinent details? laundry soap used, best call of duty killstreak numbers, cock-girth? etc
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I forgot about that.
great looking natural.
or great looking insta-respondo
do we know any pertinent details? laundry soap used, best call of duty killstreak numbers, cock-girth? etc
Tide, 27, 4.9"
I've said too much :-X
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Tide, 27, 4.9"
I've said too much :-X
Thanks, thanks. My CoD numbers are a little higher these days...
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Dude carries an impressive build naturally considering he's brand new to HRT.
6 weeks in! I am not that much different from natty in that pic (took it last week). I had gotten as far as I could with training, diet and supplements. You either need to quit the game or change the rules.
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If you mix with a non-painful compound i.e. test e...even half a mil, mix it well in the barrel and warm it up before shooting in the syringe, this I find gets rid of PIP or minimises it a great deal.
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If you mix with a non-painful compound i.e. test e...even half a mil, mix it well in the barrel and warm it up before shooting in the syringe, this I find gets rid of PIP or minimises it a great deal.
I am using test e and I warm it prior to use.
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Are you using human grade ?
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Are you using human grade ?
Lord no. It's Geneza.
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I am using test e and I warm it prior to use.
What's the dosage per ml?
UG gear can crash and crystalize in the muscle, this is the most common cause for prolonged PIP. More common with higher dosed compounds.
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What's the dosage per ml?
UG gear can crash and crystalize in the muscle, this is the most common cause for prolonged PIP. More common with higher dosed compounds.
250mg/ml. It looks clear before I warm it.
Also, my left glute takes it fine, only my right has PIP, and it has been decreasing with each subsequent injection.
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If its not too bad then just suck it up, you'll be fine.
Doesn't sound as bad as the PIP I had with my ass not long ago, could barely walk and sit down for a week. It was my right glute too. I think it was an allergic reaction to the BA/alcohol content. Used a different batch of same product was totally fine.
Had issues with high dosed gear crashing in the muscle. and off course the usual prop and even sust PIP, which I dont get anymore once you break a new site.
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If its not too bad then just suck it up, you'll be fine.
Doesn't sound as bad as the PIP I had with my ass not long ago, could barely walk and sit down for a week. It was my right glute too. I think it was an allergic reaction to the BA/alcohol content. Used a different batch of same product was totally fine.
Had issues with high dosed gear crashing in the muscle. and off course the usual prop and even sust PIP, which I dont get anymore once you break a new site.
Why would it crash in the muscle but it's fine on the shelf ???
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Why would it crash in the muscle but it's fine on the shelf ???
If its made with BA this could be a cause, as Benzyl Benzoate (BB) helps dissolve the hormone better and keep it in solution.
Impropper preperation can cause gear to crash in the vials or sometimes post injection. As many UGL are hit and miss in their preperation, problems occur. Impropper amounts of BA or BB, wrong heating temps and filtering, cold storage.
Once injected the oil might get absorbed quicker than the hormone itself if the hormone is not soluble enough, this causes crashing....only happens with UGL, and a lot more common in higher dosed compounds.
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If its made with BA this could be a cause, as Benzyl Benzoate (BB) helps dissolve the hormone better and keep it in solution.
Impropper preperation can cause gear to crash in the vials or sometimes post injection. As many UGL are hit and miss in their preperation, problems occur. Impropper amounts of BA or BB, wrong heating temps and filtering, cold storage.
Once injected the oil might get absorbed quicker than the hormone itself if the hormone is not soluble enough, this causes crashing....only happens with UGL, and a lot more common in higher dosed compounds.
Damn....I've never heard of oil crashing Post injection
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Damn....I've never heard of oil crashing Post injection
I never heard of it till it hapenned to me....I have scar tissue damage on both legs from a batch of tren e from three years ago, I stopped using it...and two months later I looked at bottle and the solution and coloring was uneven. Impurities, preperation protocol not folllowed properly (temperatures used, filtering...etc), poor ingredients (oil quality, BB/BA quality...) many things can cause it. We are really putting our hands into the mercy of UGL, Even if an UGL is skilled at making gear, they themselves buy their stuff blindely from obscure chinese firms.
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I never heard of it till it hapenned to me....I have scar tissue damage on both legs from a batch of tren e from three years ago, I stopped using it...and two months later I looked at bottle and the solution and coloring was uneven. Impurities, preperation protocol not folllowed properly (temperatures used, filtering...etc), poor ingredients (oil quality, BB/BA quality...) many things can cause it. We are really putting our hands into the mercy of UGL, Even if an UGL is skilled at making gear, they themselves buy their stuff blindely from obscure chinese firms.
awesome.
now I am willing to pay anything for pharma gear.
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I never heard of it till it hapenned to me....I have scar tissue damage on both legs from a batch of tren e from three years ago, I stopped using it...and two months later I looked at bottle and the solution and coloring was uneven. Impurities, preperation protocol not folllowed properly (temperatures used, filtering...etc), poor ingredients (oil quality, BB/BA quality...) many things can cause it. We are really putting our hands into the mercy of UGL, Even if an UGL is skilled at making gear, they themselves buy their stuff blindely from obscure chinese firms.
I still have 2 bottles of mlg tren ace that has swirls of clouds and is super dark gold, and a bottle of clean, clear gold tren... all three with the same batch/lot number. when emailing him, I got a 'tough shit.. people like it" response. hence me stopping all business with him and going into biz for myself. (after having to give out a lot of refunds for ppl not getting results from his products)
producing good product isn't difficult. ppl get lazy and cheap when they do high volume (poor planning for supply costs I suppose).. they try to squeeze in an extra liter of oil through a filter that's already filtered a liter.. or they short BB in favor of BA or they just 'eyeball' the mixes in 5l beakers instead of measuring out proper amounts of ba/bb/eo/gui/oil ect... don't wear gloves or masks or hair covering.. or have no ventilation, ect...
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I still have 2 bottles of mlg tren ace that has swirls of clouds and is super dark gold, and a bottle of clean, clear gold tren... all three with the same batch/lot number. when emailing him, I got a 'tough shit.. people like it" response. hence me stopping all business with him and going into biz for myself. (after having to give out a lot of refunds for ppl not getting results from his products)
producing good product isn't difficult. ppl get lazy and cheap when they do high volume (poor planning for supply costs I suppose).. they try to squeeze in an extra liter of oil through a filter that's already filtered a liter.. or they short BB in favor of BA or they just 'eyeball' the mixes in 5l beakers instead of measuring out proper amounts of ba/bb/eo/gui/oil ect... don't wear gloves or masks or hair covering.. or have no ventilation, ect...
Must have very poor sterility levels :( luckily the alcohol content and the fact it is suspended in oil minimises bacterial cultivation, but still not a good idea since we're injecting this deep into muscle tissue.
I remember a few years ago a couple of UGL tried to make Winny Depot, 10ml water solution bottles, as soon as it came out I was a mod in another forum and warned that sterility issues with a water based compound are gona be much more prominent as opposed to oil, especially using a multi usuage vial of 10ml....I kid you not, the same guy who posted about starting this cycle with Winny depot got a massive abcess in his quad and had to be opened up and drained. Now has a shitty side leg from the all the tissue damage....word got a round and no other UGL have tried this.
But the above could easily kill someone, septecemia is not a joke.
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Gah! Might have spoken too soon about no PIP in left glute. Shit.
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Gah! Might have spoken too soon about no PIP in left glute. Shit.
How bad is it mate? Do you get hotness on the injection site and redness?
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I stupidly used an 18g needle for my first. Never again, but wasn't near as bad as what I'd read on it.
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How bad is it mate? Do you get hotness on the injection site and redness?
No, it's mostly gone now a day later. Just my muscle protesting.
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Gah! Might have spoken too soon about no PIP in left glute. Shit.
Ventro Glute, dude! You might be nervous the first time you try it, but once you get the hang of it, you'll never go back. Absolutely zero pain
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I have yet to try the ventro glute site, it seems like its going to go in to hard bone.
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I have yet to try the ventro glute site, it seems like its going to go in to hard bone.
That's what everybody thinks, but there's a good 2" of muscle & fat there.
Poke around in your side until you feel the top of your hip bone (ischial crest). You'll want to inject about 2 inches below that point. Inject slowly if you're nervous, and shoot it at a slight downward angle.
The great thing about this spot is that the muscles don't seem to be involved in movement so a painful shot wont make you limp or affect squatting/lunging, etc. Also, you wont wince everytime you sit down like you might with a glute shot.
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even my script test hurts sometimes in the glute - lots of veins in there and the deeper you go the more chance of severing one and causing a small internal bleed.
this is why I go subQ 90% of the time (although prob not a great idea with bathtub UG moonshine)
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Good clean PHARMACEUTICAL grade gear does not hurt.
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Good clean PHARMACEUTICAL grade gear does not hurt.
I get PIP from my scripted test
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I stupidly used an 18g needle for my first. Never again, but wasn't near as bad as what I'd read on it.
:o 18g? I draw with that! lol. How long did it take for the pain to go away from a thick needle like that?
Was it on one of those readi-jects? I remember some brand of test (sust 250?) had a readi-ject that came with an 18g and I'm not even sure if you were able to replace it.