pellius. i didnt say the mentzers were lazy. i said "the people" liked them because THEY were lazy. everyone looking for an "easy" way. so if they "heard" the mentzers did 0ne set every 6 months that lasted 10 seconds then they were all for it. ( the people being lazy not mentzers) as an example. why do you think planet fitness is going so well? they cater to "lazy" people. no real drive no ambition etc but they "work out". lmao. and yes i have seen them train several times and what they say and what they did was 2 different things. no dorian wasnt lazy. he trained hard but again it was NOT one set . him and the mentzers only counted their very last set as a working set. but they pyrimided up to that last set just like every other bodybuilder does. mentzers did more than dorian but fewer than other bodybuilders. and fyi. they built most of their size training volume. also did you know mike was probably the second bodybuilder to use insulin. he learned how from tim belknap. and thats why he developed a distended stomach ( plus he trained abs with heavy weights which does not help) he also keeps saying how he was the first and only bodybuilder to get "a perfect score)". ( 300 points) so he thought he was perfect. lmao. but the first person was actually carlos rodriguize ( not spelled right i know) but no one ever heard of him bragging etc. besides weider actually was pushing for mike to be his next poster boy due to his popularity and big arnold put a stop to that didnt he. mike was a nut case. and at best only an "ok" bodybuilder.
So much misinformation that I don't know where to start.
I didn't say, or even remotely imply, that you said the Mentzers were lazy. You said, "people liked menzter because they are lazy".
How do you know that? How do you know what's in people's minds? You don't. You ever think that people leaned toward the principles of Jone's and Mentzer because they think it made sense. They were not just blindly following what everyone else were doing. That as long as you are working within your functional ability, doing things that are already easy, stopping short of failure and beyond (forced reps, negatives, drop sets) that you will not stimulate an adaptive response. Meaning, no matter how many half-ass sets you do it isn't going to stimulate an adaptive response than trying to push yourself and do something your body hasn't done before and isn't used to doing. That's lazy? That's not having drive? You try it. Push a weight until you literally can't budge it at all. I mean, really until you can't budge it. Then force out three or four more reps. Then when you have nothing left to push, try lowering it nice and slow for another three reps, then do some partials until the burn is unbearable. Then tell me how lazy and lack of drive that is.
And what is this absolute bullshit about one set every six months? Why do you have to exaggerate and just make shit up?
And no one, not even Mentzer when he went crazy and overboard on the brief training, preached one set per body part. Do you even know what you are talking about? Where did you get that? It's one all-out set per exercise not per bodypart.
And no one expected anyone to just jump right into a heavy all-out set without a warm-up and doing some setup sets before you do your one work set. Watch Dorian's "Blood and Guts" tape and this time pay attention. As Dorian put it:
"And how many sets per exercise?"
"Ah, ahem, we're going to do, the first exercise we're going to do 3 sets. So we are going to do a light set to get the movement, get everything, get the blood in there. A medium set, to further, you know, get the body and the mind ready. Then the last set is going to be like... like somebody's got a gun to your little baby's head. Yeah. And he's going to pull the trigger unless you fucking give 100%. Life and death. One set. One. "-- Dorian Yates to Brian Rose, CEO and President of London Real, just before a leg workout.
And how the hell do you know that Mentzer used insulin? He learned it from Tim Beknap? Belknap never used insulin for bbing but because he was a fuking diabetic for chrissakes! And nobody at that time (70s-early 80s) used insulin or knew it's bbing potential. Milos brought that in and he came much later.
And news flash, you don't need insulin to have a gut. Just look at your own stomach. And even at below 10% you relax your gut it will sag. The idea that Mentzer was abusing insulin in 1979 because of some candid pics of him with his gut sagging is just beyond asinine.
And another myth people like you make up is the idea Mentzer built his mass first with volume before he pushed HIT? Have you seen pics when Mentzer and Ray first went to train under Jones? Have you read Mentzer's account of how he stagnated with his progress until he met Casey and then started making progress training under Jones? The pictures are there. What he looked like before and how he went on to get a perfect score at the Universe and win the Heavyweight class at the 79 Mr. Olympia. Not bad for an "OK" bber.
There is no record of Carlos Rodriguez getting a perfect score in any show. Another made up bullshit claim with no evidence.
"In 1978, Mentzer won the Mr. Universe in Acapulco, Mexico with the first and only perfect 300 score. He became a professional bodybuilder after that 1978 Universe win"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_MentzerAnd exactly when and where did you see Mentzer train? How old are you? From what you have written you really don't have much credibility at all. You just make things up without any evidence.
