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Title: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 04:11:59 AM
THIS is what happens when the British Government is too Cowardly to address the Issues at hand. I am not supporting in any way Racism. However we must Defend our way of life. Our traditions. Muslim pakis are Raping our young Girls..attacking people in Broad Daylight.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 04:16:59 AM
Go for it, mate. Nobody else is going to protect you. The compact of a fair and just legal system is gone, you now must take matters into your own hands.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 02, 2014, 04:23:21 AM
Blood makes the grass grow.

Kill, kill, kill.

Kill em' all.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 04:25:04 AM
Go for it, mate. Nobody else is going to protect you. The compact of a fair and just legal system is gone, you now must take matters into your own hands.
Of course there is an element of far right wing in there which knows it will get support from people who have just had enough. The situation is exploding because people see the Rise and Violence of Islam on our very own Doorsteps. The British Prime Minister is a Disgrace to our Country, a Coward who deserves a White Feather. Go for it EDL.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 04:36:26 AM
Of course there is an element of far right wing in there which knows it will get support from people who have just had enough. The situation is exploding because people see the Rise and Violence of Islam on our very own Doorsteps. The British Prime Minister is a Disgrace to our Country, a Coward who deserves a White Feather. Go for it EDL.

There's an old saying in the states...

"The tree of liberty must, from time to time, be fed by the blood of tyrants and patriots"

Avenge your children.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 04:37:45 AM
There's an old saying in the states...

"The tree of liberty must, from time to time, be fed by the blood of tyrants and patriots"

Avenge your children.
I like that and very true
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 04:39:41 AM
I like that and very true

Thomas Jefferson. You may have heard of him.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 04:42:15 AM
Thomas Jefferson. You may have heard of him.
yes i have.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Omega on September 02, 2014, 04:43:10 AM
Of course there is an element of far right wing in there which knows it will get support from people who have just had enough. The situation is exploding because people see the Rise and Violence of Islam on our very own Doorsteps. The British Prime Minister is a Disgrace to our Country, a Coward who deserves a White Feather. Go for it EDL.

No doubt that there is an element to these people just like in every walk of life but the whole propaganda effort to demonise Islam...you need to question why and is it really true to the extent they are spoon feeding you through the media.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Tapeworm on September 02, 2014, 05:05:58 AM
These guys hail from Penzance or something?  Half the EDL was looking pretty swarthy there.  I like my nationalist parties lily white, thank you very much.

The only people surprised by this are ones who've never been in a pub w/yellow & red balls on the pool table.  They live in a caste society with a caste mindset and then think that the main problem is the immigrants (except for the ones that play on comprise their football team).  Unreal.  This shit has been going on for generations over there.

They'll shoot themselves in the foot and promote Islamic progress in the UK by making it impossible for anyone to make a reasonable objection to Islam without being associated with drunken, racist hooligans.  Way to go, lads.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: pedro01 on September 02, 2014, 05:06:57 AM
Of course there is an element of far right wing in there which knows it will get support from people who have just had enough. The situation is exploding because people see the Rise and Violence of Islam on our very own Doorsteps. The British Prime Minister is a Disgrace to our Country, a Coward who deserves a White Feather. Go for it EDL.

Weymann Bennett "Unite Against Fascism"...

How come he doesn't mention the Fascist Islamists who insists all non Muslims need to be eradicated?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 05:10:40 AM
Weymann Bennett "Unite Against Fascism"...

How come he doesn't mention the Fascist Islamists who insists all non Muslims need to be eradicated?
The man is an IDIOT. lives in his little World where itīs safe for his wife not to get Gang Raped by scum Pakis.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 05:11:54 AM
They'll shoot themselves in the foot and promote Islamic progress in the UK by making it impossible for anyone to make a reasonable objection to Islam without being associated with drunken, racist hooligans.  Way to go, lads.

The problem with this thinking is that the result is you do nothing, in a paralysis of fear. That's where you are right now. How's that working out for Rotherham?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on September 02, 2014, 05:16:21 AM
I will never understand why Great Britain imported so much of blacks and pakis. :-\ Can some UKGetBigger educate me what they bring to UK that is good?

And yes, you should act.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 05:18:39 AM
If you object to Islam in the UK you are a Racist >:( Patriotism is not what the Government wants. FUCK ISLAM
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Tapeworm on September 02, 2014, 06:10:58 AM
The problem with this thinking is that the result is you do nothing, in a paralysis of fear. That's where you are right now. How's that working out for Rotherham?

No, the result is that your party doesn't present as yobs who piss it up at 9am before engaging issues about which they claim to be serious.  I'd agree with them that the intolerance and imperial nature of hard Islam is unacceptable, and then I'd have to point out how much they have in common with their enemy.  

All joking aside, would you want to hang around with these people?  "Honey, meet Nobby from the EDL."
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Omega on September 02, 2014, 06:15:24 AM
The problem with this thinking is that the result is you do nothing, in a paralysis of fear. That's where you are right now. How's that working out for Rotherham?

Absolutely.
Instead of people opening up their eyes and minds to the truth they remain cocooned in their little bubble worried about some none threat Arab that might blow them up....
Ridiculous how easily people are led to water and also drink the piss
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Ken Fresno on September 02, 2014, 06:27:02 AM
No, the result is that your party doesn't present as yobs who piss it up at 9am before engaging issues about which they claim to be serious.  I'd agree with them that the intolerance and imperial nature of hard Islam is unacceptable, and then I'd have to point out how much they have in common with their enemy.  

All joking aside, would you want to hang around with these people?  "Honey, meet Nobby from the EDL."

What, you wouldn't want to associate with "big" Dave and all the other knuckle draggers from the Dog and Duck? The EDL appeals to council estate mouth-breathers and the type of people who post shit on Facebook comparing the wages of soldiers and premiership footballers.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 06:28:13 AM
Haha AJ commenting on English issues like he has a clue  ;D

Assume you'd also like the vast anti-Jewish sentiment amongst many of these football hooligans...stick to America 'mate'.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 06:31:41 AM
Donny I'm always confused by your need to randomly capitalise certain letters in a sentence.

Dare I make a connection between the uneducated and the support for such far right groups?  ;D
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 06:31:56 AM
What, you wouldn't want to associate with "big" Dave and all the other knuckle draggers from the Dog and Duck? The EDL appeals to council estate mouth-breathers and the type of people who post shit on Facebook comparing the wages of soldiers and premiership footballers.
so "ken" what is your solution to the problem ? iīm all ears.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Henda on September 02, 2014, 06:36:21 AM
We should be stomping the guts out these stinking paki extremists till they are no more than shit stains on our streets.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 06:38:22 AM
Donny I'm always confused by your need to randomly capitalise certain letters in a sentence.

Dare I make a connection between the uneducated and the support for such far right groups?  ;D
Itīs because i write both German and English and some words in German you do this. spills over. As far as Education goes i learned a respectable job here in a German College. in a Foreign language did you ??
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 02, 2014, 06:38:56 AM
No doubt that there is an element to these people just like in every walk of life but the whole propaganda effort to demonise Islam...you need to question why and is it really true to the extent they are spoon feeding you through the media.
I was under the impression the UK media was spoon feeding the 'you will love and accept islam and never point out anything negative about it or youre a racist' message to its citizens
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 06:42:20 AM
I was under the impression the UK media was spoon feeding the 'you will love and accept islam and never point out anything negative about it or youre a racist' message to its citizens
THIS.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Tapeworm on September 02, 2014, 06:42:37 AM
What, you wouldn't want to associate with "big" Dave and all the other knuckle draggers from the Dog and Duck? The EDL appeals to council estate mouth-breathers and the type of people who post shit on Facebook comparing the wages of soldiers and premiership footballers.

I received many a greasy cash envelope over a fried slice at the caf.  The Cat & Cucumber.  #&*% illegal immigrant workers.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 06:44:15 AM
Itīs because i write both German and English and some words in German you do this. spills over. As far as Education goes i learned a respectable job here in a German College. in a Foreign language did you ??

Painful to read.

So you're not even in England?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 06:48:26 AM
Painful to read.

So you're not even in England?
Germany. what are your outstanding qualifications. You are one of these do good liberal idiots who brand every patriot a Racist. well you are calling all my friends racists. Most ex Soldiers who would be disgusted by a "thing" like you. Is my punctuation ok for you Book Worm ?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: WillGrant on September 02, 2014, 06:52:05 AM
THIS is what happens when the British Government is too Cowardly to address the Issues at hand. I am not supporting in any way Racism. However we must Defend our way of life. Our traditions. Muslim pakis are Raping our young Girls..attacking people in Broad Daylight.

Where do you stand on the EDL Donny ? ni99ers and Whites rape young white girls to, so it's not limited to Nargis and Mussys
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Ken Fresno on September 02, 2014, 06:55:18 AM
Germany. what are your outstanding qualifications. You are one of these do good liberal idiots who brand every patriot a Racist. well you are calling all my friends racists. Most ex Soldiers who would be disgusted by a "thing" like you. Is my punctuation ok for you Book Worm ?

I'm a current UK soldier and I agree with his views. I find overly "patriotic" types more disgusting.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Pork_Chop on September 02, 2014, 07:00:09 AM
The problem with the EDL is they have beat up Hindu's and Budhists because they are brown in colour.

The IQ is overall so low that they are targeting people whom know as little about "Islamic Extremism" as everyone else.

Personally the 'elders' of these Mosques must condemn and kick out anyone remotely extremist themselves. The change has to come from within and it must be highly visible for all to see.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 07:00:42 AM
Where do you stand on the EDL Donny ? ni99ers and Whites rape young white girls to, so it's not limited to Nargis and Mussys
I have nothing against Black people. Only Radical Muslims. I have Friends who are Black.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Ken Fresno on September 02, 2014, 07:01:13 AM
I received many a greasy cash envelope over a fried slice at the caf.  The Cat & Cucumber.  #&*% illegal immigrant workers.

Ha, I like complain about all the Eastern European's over here stealing our jobs and women; apart from when they're doing cash-in-hand work on my house, obviously.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: WillGrant on September 02, 2014, 07:02:38 AM
The problem with the EDL is they have beat up Hindu's and Budhists because they are brown in colour.

The IQ is overall so low that they are targeting people whom know as little about "Islamic Extremism" as everyone else.

Personally the 'elders' of these Mosques must condemn and kick out anyone remotely extremist themselves. The change has to come from within and it must be highly visible for all to see.
EDL is not a good representative for white pride.
They are hooligans and Criminals and basically on the same level as the extremists - they sing a good chant though  ;D
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 07:02:43 AM
Germany. what are your outstanding qualifications. You are one of these do good liberal idiots who brand every patriot a Racist. well you are calling all my friends racists. Most ex Soldiers who would be disgusted by a "thing" like you. Is my punctuation ok for you Book Worm ?

Ah, ze fatherland. Wanted to feel closer to the Aryan race?  ;D

Any military I've seen/got on my Facebook distances themselves from the EDL.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: WillGrant on September 02, 2014, 07:04:22 AM
I have nothing against Black people. Only Radical Muslims. I have Friends who are Black.
There's radical blacks to - are they all good ?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 07:04:31 AM
I have Friends who are Black.

Is this a parody account?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 07:07:01 AM
Ah, ze fatherland. Wanted to feel closer to the Aryan race?  ;D

Any military I've seen/got on my Facebook distances themselves from the EDL.
really ? Guess you were a Monkey in the Army.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: BigCyp on September 02, 2014, 07:08:51 AM
Donny being exposed as a neo nazi in this thread
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 07:11:14 AM
Donny being exposed as a neo nazi in this thread
well if being Patriotic and anti Radical Islam is being Racist..then in your eyes iīm Racist.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 07:12:04 AM
Donny being exposed as a neo nazi in this thread

Nein!
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: WillGrant on September 02, 2014, 07:17:16 AM
well if being Patriotic and anti Radical Islam is being Racist..then in your eyes iīm Racist.
Nothing wrong with being Patriotic - Radicals of all ilk deserve being rid of - unfortunately
the vid you posted , these guys are just like the scum bags you want to get rid of and they
don't just want the radicals gone they want all muslims, pakis etc etc gone - most of these
people are innocent - oh yeah plus your black friends would no doubt get a kicking to just
for being black.

These are not white pride protesters these are full on white supremacists
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 07:20:44 AM
Nothing wrong with being Patriotic - Radicals of all ilk deserve being rid of - unfortunately
the vid you posted , these guys are just like the scum bags you want to get rid of and they
don't just want the radicals gone they want all muslims, pakis etc etc gone - most of these
people are innocent - oh yeah plus your black friends would no doubt get a kicking to just
for being black.

These are not white pride protesters these are full on white supremacists
Funny post "white pride" ok.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 07:23:24 AM
well if being Patriotic and anti Radical Islam is being Racist..then in your eyes iīm Racist.

Yeah, the term "racist" is so debased that it has no meaning anymore.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: WillGrant on September 02, 2014, 07:26:05 AM
Funny post "white pride" ok.
It's another term for being Patriotic or are you ashamed of your heritage , it is white isn't it ?

So you have no issue with the EDL taking there kickers to your "black friends" ? Cos they are viewed
like the dirty paki's they are chanting about in that vid , or is Big Cyp right ?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 07:27:13 AM
Yeah, the term "racist" is so debased that it has no meaning anymore.
These liberals try to say everyone is Racist. I am not a Thug who runs around drinking Beer every Day chanting songs. This is always what is brought over by Liberal Idiots. Truth is they are weaklings who are submitting to Islam.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: WillGrant on September 02, 2014, 07:29:07 AM
Yeah, the term "racist" is so debased that it has no meaning anymore.
So all the anti Muslim/Middle Eastern posts and threads on here are ok with you ?

That's racist.

Bearing in mind all fundamentalists should be wiped out from all races - but not all Muslims
or people from the Middle East are like that yet get tarred with that brush cos of where they are
from.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 02, 2014, 07:29:53 AM
It's another term for being Patriotic or are you ashamed of your heritage , it is white isn't it ?

So you have no issue with the EDL taking there kickers to your "black friends" ? Cos they are viewed
like the dirty paki's they are chanting about in that vid , or is Big Cyp right ?

In the US you're not allowed to be proud of being white.
Or proud of being male.

Thats considered racist and/or sexist

But you can be proud of being

Black
Hispanic
Native American
Gay
Transgendered
Feminist
Etc

Many have their own federally recognized pride day

But mention beung proud of being white, and everyone labels you a racist.

Especially other whites.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 07:30:06 AM
It's another term for being Patriotic or are you ashamed of your heritage , it is white isn't it ?

So you have no issue with the EDL taking there kickers to your "black friends" ? Cos they are viewed
like the dirty paki's they are chanting about in that vid , or is Big Cyp right ?

I would never support beating anyone for being Black. Utter Rubbish. You are twisting the meaning of my Video and post.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 02, 2014, 07:32:09 AM
So all the anti Muslim/Middle Eastern posts and threads on here are ok with you ?

That's racist.

Bearing in mind all fundamentalists should be wiped out from all races - but not all Muslims
or people from the Middle East are like that yet get tarred with that brush cos of where they are
from.
I havent seen anyone advocating that all members of a religion or race should be expunged.

Just the extremists that use thwir cultue/religion to rape/murder/refuse to assimilate/advocate conversion or kill
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: WillGrant on September 02, 2014, 07:45:20 AM
I would never support beating anyone for being Black. Utter Rubbish. You are twisting the meaning of my Video and post.
Look who is in that vid - they attack Blacks, middle eastern, asians, anyone of "colour" do you not know anything about the
history of the national front and all the splinter groups ?

I havent seen anyone advocating that all members of a religion or race should be expunged.

Just the extremists that use thwir cultue/religion to rape/murder/refuse to assimilate/advocate conversion or kill
You need to read closer then , it's anti middle eastern to the extreme on here - "kill the muslims"
And this is not a "libtard" post - This is pointing out facts that not all Muslims run around blowing shit up.

I've many friends from the middle east that are Muslim - some from the former Iraq and they are the total opposite
of whats portrayed here and in the media.

And yes extremists from all parts of the world deserve getting rid of. Doesn't matter what ethnic group they are from

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 07:47:13 AM
I havent seen anyone advocating that all members of a religion or race should be expunged.

Just the extremists that use thwir cultue/religion to rape/murder/refuse to assimilate/advocate conversion or kill
exactly... they do do not want to integrate and abuse our social systems then go to be trained to kill us. This is the truth. "Extremists" nothing to do with racism.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 07:49:24 AM
exactly... they do do not want to integrate and abuse our social systems then go to be trained to kill us. This is the truth. "Extremists" nothing to do with racism.

You don't live in England.

These 'brown' people run our social services, such as the NHS.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/29/article-2738067-20E7C42300000578-323_634x645.jpg)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 07:50:48 AM
 Will Grant i am well aware of the National front and other Groups which were around in the 70s and 80s but if you bothered to read my early posts you might understand my point.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 02, 2014, 07:50:57 AM
Look who is in that vid - they attack Blacks, middle eastern, asians, anyone of "colour" do you not know anything about the
history of the national front and all the splinter groups ?
You need to read closer then , it's anti middle eastern to the extreme on here - "kill the muslims"
And this is not a "libtard" post - This is pointing out facts that not all Muslims run around blowing shit up.

I've many friends from the middle east that are Muslim - some from the former Iraq and they are the total opposite
of whats portrayed here and in the media.

And yes extremists from all parts of the world deserve getting rid of. Doesn't matter what ethnic group they are from


Yes, but you have to look at the context in which things are being discussed.... theyre talking about the extemist fundamentalists.... the ones that are comitting and advocating heinous and savage crimes and lifestyles.

No one is worried about the moderate guys that quietly live their lives and just happen to be muslims, and no one makes threads about them, because theyre not doing anything to hurt anyone.

Youll notice that when most of the time, they actually will denote 'moderate muslims' when talking about them.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 07:52:43 AM
You don't live in England.

These 'brown' people run our social services, such as the NHS.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/29/article-2738067-20E7C42300000578-323_634x645.jpg)
your point being ?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: WillGrant on September 02, 2014, 07:54:23 AM
exactly... they do do not want to integrate and abuse our social systems then go to be trained to kill us. This is the truth. "Extremists" nothing to do with racism.
You are missing the point - The EDL are targeting "extremists' in this vid , But they hate and attack the Muslims (not the terrorists) , blacks, middle easterners , asian, indian and so on to

Yes I totally agree with you Extremists should be gone - but these guys are extremists to and just as bad.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: WillGrant on September 02, 2014, 07:56:59 AM
Yes, but you have to look at the context in which things are being discussed.... theyre talking about the extemist fundamentalists.... the ones that are comitting and advocating heinous and savage crimes and lifestyles.

No one is worried about the moderate guys that quietly live their lives and just happen to be muslims, and no one makes threads about them, because theyre not doing anything to hurt anyone.

Youll notice that when most of the time, they actually will denote 'moderate muslims' when talking about them.
Sorry man , but these guys are extremists to - look at my post above - they maybe targeting extremists in this vid and I agree with the notion behind this, but these guys are extreme hardcore racists .

The Front incite hate towards non whites.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 07:57:21 AM
Bearing in mind all fundamentalists should be wiped out from all races - but not all Muslims
or people from the Middle East are like that yet get tarred with that brush cos of where they are
from.

So all "fundamentalists" are the same to you? What absurd and ignorant moral equivalence.

Please show me the terrorist attacks, with citations, perpetrated by:

- Born-again Christians
- Hasidic Jews
- Any part of Buddhism

The problem is that you are so fucking indoctrinated my the PC multi/culti bullshit that you even fucking believe it. GTFO.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 02, 2014, 07:58:05 AM
I'm no social behavioural expert, but I have a feeling fighting extremism with Hooliganism is not the way to a peaceful prosperous society.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 02, 2014, 07:59:06 AM
Sorry man , but these guys are extremists to - look at my post above - they maybe targeting extremists in this vid and I agree with the notion behind this, but these guys are extreme hardcore racists .

The Front incite hate towards non whites.
Im not talking about the EDL, i know nothing of Britains politics... im talking about our attitudes and posta here on getbig.

Besides, i though donny said right off the bat that the EDL was an out there extreme right group and he didnt agree with a lot of their ideas?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 08:00:06 AM
I'm no social behavioural expert, but I have a feeling fighting extremism with Hooliganism is not the way to a peaceful prosperous society.

Maybe not, but bringing a knife to a gunfight is a good way to exterminate your culture.

Sometimes, blood demands blood. We can fight this war now, or when it's more convenient for our enemies. I prefer now.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 08:00:17 AM
You are missing the point - The EDL are targeting "extremists' in this vid , But they the Muslims (not the terrorists) , blacks, middle easterners , asian, indian and so on.

Yes I totally agree with you Extremists should be gone - but these guys are extremists to and just as bad.
I repeat that if you read my posts then it should be clear i wrote that there is an element in there who are extreme right wing but a lot are not. read what i wrote on my early posts. the point of the video was to show the unrest due to our Cowardly Government. I stand by my views that Islam has no place in a civilized society.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: WillGrant on September 02, 2014, 08:00:39 AM
So all "fundamentalists" are the same to you? What absurd and ignorant moral equivalence.

Please show me the terrorist attacks, with citations, perpetrated by:

- Born-again Christians
- Hasidic Jews
- Any part of Buddhism

The problem is that you are so fucking indoctrinated my the PC multi/culti bullshit that you even fucking believe it. GTFO.
Anyone that's committing atrocity's in a fundamentalist type way  toward innocents and peaceful society's  - but you knew that dickhead  ::)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 08:12:11 AM
Maybe not, but bringing a knife to a gunfight is a good way to exterminate your culture.

Sometimes, blood demands blood. We can fight this war now, or when it's more convenient for our enemies. I prefer now.

'We'.

Stick to America.

Yank Jew proposes support for a group that would also kick his head in.

Brilliant  ;D
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 08:16:31 AM
'We'.

Stick to America.

Yank Jew proposes support for a group that would also kick his head in.

Brilliant  ;D
noc.. what kind of coward are you?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 08:22:16 AM
I have Friends who are Black.

Is this a parody account?

Speak on this.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 02, 2014, 08:22:42 AM
These guys hail from Penzance or something?  Half the EDL was looking pretty swarthy there.  I like my nationalist parties lily white, thank you very much.

The only people surprised by this are ones who've never been in a pub w/yellow & red balls on the pool table.  They live in a caste society with a caste mindset and then think that the main problem is the immigrants (except for the ones that play on comprise their football team).  Unreal.  This shit has been going on for generations over there.

They'll shoot themselves in the foot and promote Islamic progress in the UK by making it impossible for anyone to make a reasonable objection to Islam without being associated with drunken, racist hooligans.  Way to go, lads.

great post.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 08:27:24 AM
great post.
from a guy who knows ::)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 08:29:26 AM
Speak on this.
explain your problem and iīll address it.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 02, 2014, 08:31:55 AM
Maybe not, but bringing a knife to a gunfight is a good way to exterminate your culture.

Sometimes, blood demands blood. We can fight this war now, or when it's more convenient for our enemies. I prefer now.

These guys are not the ones to fight anything.....get drunk, scream and growl is all they do. Destroying the image of those who really want to tackle the problem properly. Just watch this incoherent moron, and the by the look of the guys behind him the gene pool doesn't get any better.

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Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 08:32:31 AM
explain your problem and iīll address it.

The EDL are a bunch of pissed up far right football hooligans attacking anyone and everyone of 'otherness' under the guise of fighting radical Islam.

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 08:33:06 AM
These guys are not the ones to fight anything.....get drunk, scream and growl is all they do. Destroying the image of those who really want to tackle the problem properly. Just watch this incoherent moron, and the by the look of the guys behind him the gene pool doesn't get any better.

Every war needs cannon-fodder...
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 08:34:07 AM
Yank Jew proposes support for a group that would also kick his head in.

Haha! When in doubt, throw "Jew" out there. That as good as you've got?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 02, 2014, 08:34:13 AM
Every war needs cannon-fodder...

LOL  :D
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 02, 2014, 08:36:20 AM
from a guy who knows ::)

Calm down man, you don't help yourself on here at all.

Nationalism in the UK has been hijacked by dickheads. The Scots, the English and the Irish all suffer from it.

It isn't helped when angry ex squaddies jump in in their usual belligerent manner.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 08:37:59 AM
Calm down man, you don't yourself on here at all.

Nationalism in the UK has been hijacked by dickheads. The Scots, the English and the Irish all suffer from it.

It isn't helped when angry ex squaddies jump in in their usual belligerent manner.

And this is why you'll be overrun. You can't even see the enemy when he is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, TELLING YOU THAT HE IS GOING TO KILL YOU.

Absolutely pitiful.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: SuperTed on September 02, 2014, 08:38:47 AM
The EDL are just made up of ex members of the Luton Town MIGs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luton_Town_MIGs

They are just yobs who would fight one another if there was nothing to protest about.

The biggest fools are the British government. Taking large amounts of medieval Muslims immigrants into the UK while bombing Muslim countries at the same time was never going to be a good idea. :-\
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 08:39:26 AM
The EDL are a bunch of pissed up far right football hooligans attacking anyone and everyone of 'otherness' under the guise of fighting radical Islam.


Liberal Fuck Wit gassing off. worries about spelling and punctuation but not about his wife getting fucked by Pakis ???
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 08:41:03 AM
Haha! When in doubt, throw "Jew" out there. That as good as you've got?

Are you dense? Just highlighting how clueless you are. Again, stick to America.

Anti-Semitism is rife amongst this group of civilised humans, a common chant is 'hisssssssssssss' - the sound of gas filling Jewish lungs.

Hence the Jew comment.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Ken Fresno on September 02, 2014, 08:41:51 AM
Liberal Fuck Wit gassing off. worries about spelling and punctuation but not about his wife getting fucked by Pakis ???

Don't worry, guys! Some of his best friends are black.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 02, 2014, 08:42:04 AM
Liberal Fuck Wit gassing off. worries about spelling and punctuation but not about his wife getting fucked by Pakis ???

That's why the first thing I do when I get home from work is sniff my wife...if I sense a hint of curry she gets an uppercut  >:(
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 08:43:27 AM
And this is why you'll be overrun. You can't even see the enemy when he is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU, TELLING YOU THAT HE IS GOING TO KILL YOU.

Absolutely pitiful.
you are my Brother. If i was in the Army again i would love to have aj by my side.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 08:45:34 AM
Don't worry, guys! Some of his best friends are black.

 ;D

Wonder if there's a thread somewhere on a German forum discussing how to deal with incoherent British people coming over, sticking to the speed limit on the autobahn and eating all their sausages.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 02, 2014, 08:46:06 AM
Are you dense? Just highlighting how clueless you are. Again, stick to America.

Anti-Semitism is rife amongst this group of civilised humans, a common chant is 'hisssssssssssss' - the sound of gas filling Jewish lungs.

Hence the Jew comment.

Hope that helps.

He doesn't have a clue.

The "I'd rather be a paki than a Jew" dicks get his support only because he is clueless and likes to stick his nose in where he shouldn't.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 02, 2014, 08:47:32 AM
The EDL are just made up of ex members of the Luton Town MIGs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luton_Town_MIGs

They are just yobs who would fight one another if there was nothing to protest about.

The biggest fools are the British government. Taking large amounts of medieval Muslims immigrants into the UK while bombing Muslim countries at the same time was never going to be a good idea. :-\

On the basis of this post I would vote for you.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 08:48:42 AM
;D

Wonder if there's a thread somewhere on a German forum discussing how to deal with incoherent British people coming over, sticking to the speed limit on the autobahn and eating all their sausages.
where were you in Germany ?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 08:51:26 AM
He doesn't have a clue.

The "I'd rather be a paki than a Jew" dicks get his support only because he is clueless and likes to stick his nose in where he shouldn't.

Yes, sometimes you have to make bedfellows with some strange folks when you are trying to save your civilization.

Perhaps some of your countrymen will quote that old "yank" Samuel Adams:

Quote
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

Good luck, "Bob"
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 08:54:33 AM
He doesn't have a clue.

The "I'd rather be a paki than a Jew" dicks get his support only because he is clueless and likes to stick his nose in where he shouldn't.

Sticking his nose in?  ;D

Think he fears the bogey brown man being a Jew himself, does make for some amusing posts. He's all over the UK board proposing solutions, bless him. He should turn up to a EDL march in his yamaka.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 02, 2014, 08:56:00 AM
Neo-Nazi's coming out of the woods is not something we need to cling onto just because we're frustrated with our marshmallow leaders.

(http://www.indymedia.org.uk/images/2011/12/489790.jpg)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 08:59:44 AM
Sticking his nose in?  ;D

Think he fears the bogey brown man being a Jew himself, does make for some amusing posts. He's all over the UK board proposing solutions, bless him. He should turn up to a EDL march in his yamaka.

FWIW, I'm Catholic.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 09:01:06 AM
FWIW, I'm Catholic.

I've seen you post that you have some Jewish background to you.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 09:02:27 AM
I've seen you post that you have some Jewish background to you.

Indeed I do! Is that a problem for you, my friend?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 09:02:36 AM
Neo-Nazi's coming out of the woods is not something we need to cling onto just because we're frustrated with our marshmallow leaders.

(http://www.indymedia.org.uk/images/2011/12/489790.jpg)
what % are Nazis? and Patriots? do you see a difference between them?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 02, 2014, 09:02:53 AM
Yes, sometimes you have to make bedfellows with some strange folks when you are trying to save your civilization.

Perhaps some of your countrymen will quote that old "yank" Samuel Adams:

Good luck, "Bob"

You are clearly not a stupid man but I feel that there's a certain subtlety missing from your brain.

A non Jewish gun nut who blindly supports Israel and misses out on the fact that the last time Europe allowed right wing ideology to sweep its tide we had a World War.

There are clearly massive problems in Europe with disenfranchised, insecure, small penised young men wanting to commit terrorist attacks against the countries in which they grew up.  But if you think, as you seem to suggest, that sweeping all the immigrants, the coloureds, the homosexuals, and the non-Christians out with the scum is the way to do it then I think you're mental.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 09:05:45 AM
There are clearly massive problems in Europe with disenfranchised, insecure, small penised young men wanting to commit terrorist attacks against the countries in which they grew up.  But if you think, as you seem to suggest, that sweeping all the immigrants, the coloureds, the homosexuals, and the non-Christians out with the scum is the way to do it then I think you're mental.

Have I suggested such a thing? I am suggesting looking clear-eyed at the danger in your house, something many (most) of you are not willing to do. Probably because of your fear of the "right wing fascist" is clouding your judgement.

I posit that you'll be looking suspiciously around the corner for the next "right wing Nazi" while the enemy you're ignoring slits your throat.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: pedro01 on September 02, 2014, 09:06:11 AM
Nothing wrong with being Patriotic - Radicals of all ilk deserve being rid of - unfortunately
the vid you posted , these guys are just like the scum bags you want to get rid of and they
don't just want the radicals gone they want all muslims, pakis etc etc gone - most of these
people are innocent - oh yeah plus your black friends would no doubt get a kicking to just
for being black.

These are not white pride protesters these are full on white supremacists

The term "useful idiots" comes to mind
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 09:06:56 AM
Indeed I do! Is that a problem for you, my friend?

Nope.

I have Jewish mate  ;D

Might be a problem for your friends at the EDL, though.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Howard on September 02, 2014, 09:08:22 AM
I don't belong to any activist group now do I wish to march in protest or fight anyone.
Granted I was in the USMC, but I wanted to serve my country when I was young.

I'm happy with my life and place within the " current system".
I don't feel repressed or that I'm being forced out by another ethnic group.
I don't want any drastic changes or the turmoil that comes with revolt and uprising.

The EDL is similar to the black protestors in Ferguson , Missouri ( USA).
BOTH groups feel a sense of social injustice based more on their own personal lives/situations.
Rarely is one willing to look in the mirror for the root cause of their own problems.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: pedro01 on September 02, 2014, 09:08:36 AM
These guys are not the ones to fight anything.....get drunk, scream and growl is all they do. Destroying the image of those who really want to tackle the problem properly. Just watch this incoherent moron, and the by the look of the guys behind him the gene pool doesn't get any better.

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Whatever he's on - send me a few ounces...
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 09:13:02 AM
Nope.

I have Jewish mate  ;D

Might be a problem for your friends at the EDL, though.
NONE of us are members of the EDL but support Patriotism. People here are twisting things. Sure a small group are in there and taking profit. However at the end of the Day Islam is our Enemy.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 09:13:18 AM
I have Jewish mate  ;D

Is that "mate" as in a friend or your wife? Honest question as I can't infer from the rest of the post.

Remember that the Allies had to hold their noses with the Soviets, knowing that eventually Uncle Joe would get around to stabbing them in the back. Sometimes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: SuperTed on September 02, 2014, 09:13:38 AM
TBH I'm not sure how anti-semetic or "Neo-Nazi" the EDL are now.
I'd imagine that they have some members of Jewish background.

The average "far right nut" in Europe right now is usually quite pro-Zionist/Israel (Anders Breivik for instance).
Islamic fundamentalists are actually probably closer to Neo-Nazism than them. :D

The vast majority of Muslims I know (including some very good friends) are great people. However, the problem is that there is a very dangerous minority among them that hold extremist views. Even if these fundamentalists only make up about 5-10% of the UK Muslim population, that's still a hell of a lot of people when you consider the Muslim population within the UK is already in its millions and is rapidly growing too.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 09:14:19 AM
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100284604/the-self-loathing-of-the-british-left-is-now-a-problem-for-us-all/
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 02, 2014, 09:17:42 AM
Have I suggested such a thing? I am suggesting looking clear-eyed at the danger in your house, something many (most) of you are not willing to do. Probably because of your fear of the "right wing fascist" is clouding your judgement.

I posit that you'll be looking suspiciously around the corner for the next "right wing Nazi" while the enemy you're ignoring slits your throat.

Not me my friend.

I'd willingly help develop a nano-virus to kill all hardcore muslims who want to impose Sharia and all that goes with it.  

But evil doesn't beat evil.  Europe has probably fucked itself and it is too late, the enemy is within.  Now the only solution is education and integration because anything else would lead to more and more terror.  Or the nano-virus.

I appreciate that you don't get that as your stance on Israel gives everything away.

In life I believe that you have to compromise whether you like it or not if you want to build something that is bigger than just your own tiny island.  I see that in business all the time and I believe the lessons hold true in politics.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 02, 2014, 09:20:19 AM
Is that "mate" as in a friend or your wife? Honest question as I can't infer from the rest of the post.

I have Friends who are Black.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 02, 2014, 09:21:29 AM
TBH I'm not sure how anti-semetic or "Neo-Nazi" the EDL are now.
I'd imagine that they have some members of Jewish background.

The average "far right nut" in Europe right now is usually quite pro-Zionist/Israel (Anders Breivik for instance).
Islamic fundamentalists are actually probably closer to Neo-Nazism than them. :D

The vast majority of Muslims I know (including some very good friends) are great people. However, the problem is that there is a very dangerous minority among them that hold extremist views. Even if these fundamentalists only make up about 5-10% of the UK Muslim population, that's still a hell of a lot of people when you consider the Muslim population within the UK is already in its millions and is rapidly growing too.

10% fundamentalists means how many leaning towards Islamification?  I think a lot.

I will never forget that on the night of September 11th 2001 East London was ablaze with carnival celebrations.  It was sickening.

A few days later in that same area I even kicked someone out of the gym I went to because he said the Yanks deserved it and had brought it on themselves.  

The unbelievable thing is that this guy was a white American.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
I don't belong to any activist group now do I wish to march in protest or fight anyone.
Granted I was in the USMC, but I wanted to serve my country when I was young.

I'm happy with my life and place within the " current system".
I don't feel repressed or that I'm being forced out by another ethnic group.
I don't want any drastic changes or the turmoil that comes with revolt and uprising.

The EDL is similar to the black protestors in Ferguson , Missouri ( USA).
BOTH groups feel a sense of social injustice based more on their own personal lives/situations.
Rarely is one willing to look in the mirror for the root cause of their own problems.
the British Government has failed. true individuals must stand up for their own lifes but not all of them have a good start in life. the EDL will get support from social weak areas but not all are Nazis like some are saying here. i want to say first and formost i am not a Racist or a member of any such party. Posting a video of a young drunken boy does not show the real situation. cutting heads off does.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 02, 2014, 09:22:05 AM
what % are Nazis? and Patriots? do you see a difference between them?

I don't know the % of Nazi's in EDL, do you know?

I do differentiate between patriotism and neo-Nazism

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 09:27:13 AM
I don't know the % of Nazi's in EDL, do you know?

I do differentiate between patriotism and neo-Nazism


and i do too. i canīt accurately say because iīm not in their party but i would estimate maybe 20-30% are old school National Front. The most are young and older people who do not really follow politics.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Omega on September 02, 2014, 09:31:52 AM
A few days later in that same area I even kicked someone out of the gym I went to because he said the Yanks deserved it and had brought it on themselves.  
The unbelievable thing is that this guy was a white American.

They should look toward their own country before hanging the bogeyman banner on a piece of fiction called Bin Laden
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
But evil doesn't beat evil.  Europe has probably fucked itself and it is too late, the enemy is within.  Now the only solution is education and integration because anything else would lead to more and more terror.  Or the nano-virus.

Evil can beat evil, but that is a simplistic view. Force beats evil, period. An unarmed man dies quite easily by the sword.

I appreciate that you don't get that as your stance on Israel gives everything away.

Please enlighten me on how my "stance on Israel gives everything away"

In life I believe that you have to compromise whether you like it or not if you want to build something that is bigger than just your own tiny island.  I see that in business all the time and I believe the lessons hold true in politics.

Sure, "compromise" with ISIS and the Muslims you let into your country. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 02, 2014, 09:33:32 AM
and i do too. i canīt accurately say because iīm not in their party but i would estimate maybe 20-30% are old school National Front. The most are young and older people who do not really follow politics.

That's a large enough figure to disassociate from them.

I don't mind them marching in towns where there's lots of extremism like Luton, rattles cages an all that TBH.

We just need leaders committed to tackling this problem and dealing with it firmly. Do you think UKIP's Nigel is a way to go?

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 09:35:52 AM
We just need leaders committed to tackling this problem and dealing with it firmly. Do you think UKIP's Nigel is a way to go?

I rather like Nigel's speeches in the EU "parliament".

I may be oversimplifying noc and HonestBob's opinion, but how does their "compromise" and moral equivalence differ from the officials in Rotherham looking away?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 09:41:47 AM
That's a large enough figure to disassociate from them.

I don't mind them marching in towns where there's lots of extremism like Luton, rattles cages an all that TBH.

We just need leaders committed to tackling this problem and dealing with it firmly. Do you think UKIP's Nigel is a way to go?


figures are just my estimate. If an anti muslim march was planned in Celle here i would be there. does that make me a Nazi?  I think Scotland should be independent so what the quotes are from UKIP are not important.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _bruce_ on September 02, 2014, 09:42:18 AM
You are clearly not a stupid man but I feel that there's a certain subtlety missing from your brain.

A non Jewish gun nut who blindly supports Israel and misses out on the fact that the last time Europe allowed right wing ideology to sweep its tide we had a World War.

There are clearly massive problems in Europe with disenfranchised, insecure, small penised young men wanting to commit terrorist attacks against the countries in which they grew up.  But if you think, as you seem to suggest, that sweeping all the immigrants, the coloureds, the homosexuals, and the non-Christians out with the scum is the way to do it then I think you're mental.

No one allowed it.
Also politically you are caught between a cock and a hard place. The optimum solution would require huge unidirected participation from the public - which becomes less likely the more polarized the population becomes... social standing, class, ethnic background, culture, race.
There is no real right wing party in all of Europe because it would mean real change, all you've got is other socialists who are more aware of a nations origins and who are playing captain obvious.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 02, 2014, 09:42:56 AM
Evil can beat evil, but that is a simplistic view. Force beats evil, period. An unarmed man dies quite easily by the sword.

Please enlighten me on how my "stance on Israel gives everything away"

Sure, "compromise" with ISIS and the Muslims you let into your country. Good luck with that.

You think smashing people to shit will win the war.

The only way Israeli actions, supported financially by the USA, will "win" is if they nuke the entire Muslim world and kill all Muslims in all Western countries.

I can see your thinking.  You are the classic American who believes that two atomic bombs were better than one.  But you don't understand the hate this breeds and that ultimately we all lose.

There is a reason why smart Americans put Canadian flags on their luggage when they travel abroad.

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: SuperTed on September 02, 2014, 09:45:46 AM
Rather then relying on EDL yobs, the best way to curb Islamic fundamentalism in the UK is:

1) Put a curb on illegal immigration. Little can be done about the ones already in the UK but put a large curb on any future arrivals. Stop them before they enter the country. The UK does require a controlled amount skilled migrants coming legally but illegal immigrant is a drain to the economy and will cause future unrest. Islamic migrants should also be treated with more caution then say, Chinese migrants for obvious reasons.

2) Stop interfering in Muslim affairs. Quit blasting their countries in unnecessary wars or trying to "police" the world. It's not required and those countries don't want it. Pretending you have good intentions doesn't work either. They aren't that stupid. :D
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 09:47:51 AM
You think smashing people to shit will win the war.

The only way Israeli actions, supported financially by the USA, will "win" is if they nuke the entire Muslim world and kill all Muslims in all Western countries.

I can see your thinking.  You are the classic American who believes that two atomic bombs were better than one.  But you don't understand the hate this breeds and that ultimately we all lose.

There is a reason why smart Americans put Canadian flags on their luggage when they travel abroad.


aj is a Top Guy. Go fishing with him any time
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 02, 2014, 09:48:00 AM
figures are just my estimate. If an anti muslim march was planned in Celle here i would be there. does that make me a Nazi?  I think Scotland should be independent so what the quotes are from UKIP are not important.

If you're ok being shoulder to shoulder with guys doing the Nazi salute that's fine by me.

I don't know who's Nazi and who's not, but someone with a swastika tattoo doing a Nazi salute usually gives me that impression....may be he's just a middle class well educated patriot, I don't know.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 02, 2014, 09:49:53 AM
Rather then relying on EDL yobs, the best way to curb Islamic fundamentalism in the UK is:

1) Put a curb on illegal immigration. Little can be done about the ones already in the UK but put a large curb on any future arrivals. Stop them before they enter the country. The UK does require a controlled amount skilled migrants coming legally but illegal immigrant is a drain to the economy and will cause future unrest. Islamic migrants should also be treated with more caution then say, Chinese migrants for obvious reasons.

2) Stop interfering in Muslim affairs. Quit blasting their countries in unnecessary wars or trying to "police" the world. It's not required and those countries don't want it. Pretending you have good intentions doesn't work either. They aren't that stupid. :D

It is too late for all that though. 
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 09:52:11 AM
You think smashing people to shit will win the war.

The only way Israeli actions, supported financially by the USA, will "win" is if they nuke the entire Muslim world and kill all Muslims in all Western countries.

I can see your thinking.  You are the classic American who believes that two atomic bombs were better than one.  But you don't understand the hate this breeds and that ultimately we all lose.

There is a reason why smart Americans put Canadian flags on their luggage when they travel abroad.

Are you familiar with Clausewitz' "Total War Theory?" Because you are engaged in a nihilist total war whether you wish to admit it or not. And your blindness to that fact is fatal.

You are dealing with a ideology that doesn't hate us for being too forceful. It hates us for being weak and soft and overly indulgent. Something that you are excelling at right now. As Caligula said, "oderint dum metuant" ("let them hate, so long as they fear")

In 20 years, we may actually have to "nuke the entire muslim world" simply because we failed to look evil in the eye this time.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 09:55:28 AM
If you're ok being shoulder to shoulder with guys doing the Nazi salute that's fine by me.

I don't know who's Nazi and who's not, but someone with a swastika tattoo doing a Nazi salute usually gives me that impression....may be he's just a middle class well educated patriot, I don't know.
slight exaggeration there. I am not shoulder to shoulder with any Nazis. You can Phone Stadt Celle here and ask about me. I was in Celle Kreistag.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 09:56:53 AM
ask them what party i was in.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 02, 2014, 09:58:11 AM
slight exaggeration there. I am not shoulder to shoulder with any Nazis. You can Phone Stadt Celle here and ask about me. I was in Celle Kreistag.

Every other shoulder?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: mr.turbo on September 02, 2014, 09:59:18 AM
yes yes good idea

nuclear war toe toe is the answer
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 10:00:02 AM
Every other shoulder?
not even rear delt  ;)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Howard on September 02, 2014, 10:02:46 AM
the British Government has failed. true individuals must stand up for their own lifes but not all of them have a good start in life. the EDL will get support from social weak areas but not all are Nazis like some are saying here. i want to say first and formost i am not a Racist or a member of any such party. Posting a video of a young drunken boy does not show the real situation. cutting heads off does.

Yes, but chopping off heads and blowing up buildings does very little to help anyone's life, right now.
You are 100% correct that it does get media attention.
BUT that media coverage is due to shock value and does little to advance a cause.

My point is that most INDIVIDUALS in any society suffer in the short term during a conflict or revolt.
If you're happy and content ( like me) you don't want to rock the boat.

Life is tough and the most successful people take advantage of the situation " as is".
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 02, 2014, 10:04:21 AM
Are you familiar with Clausewitz' "Total War Theory?" Because you are engaged in a nihilist total war whether you wish to admit it or not. And your blindness to that fact is fatal.

You are dealing with a ideology that doesn't hate us for being too forceful. It hates us for being weak and soft and overly indulgent. Something that you are excelling at right now. As Caligula said, "oderint dum metuant" ("let them hate, so long as they fear")

In 20 years, we may actually have to "nuke the entire muslim world" simply because we failed to look evil in the eye this time.

Despite myself I like you AJ, but you can't have world ruled by fear.  In the end it breeds more hate and more violence.  This is one of the reasons Muslims hate the USA.  I am NOT defending their hate at all, but short of eradicating every single one of them nuclear war isn't the answer.

I suspect you don't appreciate just how much hate the US brings on itself by the ongoing sponsoring of Israel.  

It is this that I object to because it only increases the cycle of violence.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 02, 2014, 10:05:31 AM
not even rear delt  ;)

LOL  ;D

Good enough for me.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 02, 2014, 10:08:10 AM
Yes, but chopping off heads and blowing up buildings does very little to help anyone's life, right now.
You are 100% correct that it does get media attention.
BUT that media coverage is due to shock value and does little to advance a cause.

My point is that most INDIVIDUALS in any society suffer in the short term during a conflict or revolt.
If you're happy and content ( like me) you don't want to rock the boat.

Life is tough and the most successful people take advantage of the situation " as is".

well atrocities should be shown to educate people. I see your point ;)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 02, 2014, 10:13:34 AM
Despite myself I like you AJ, but you can't have world ruled by fear.

And I you. But can't you see that the world already *is* ruled by fear? And we are the ones that are afraid.

I suspect you don't appreciate just how much hate the US brings on itself by the ongoing sponsoring of Israel.

And I suspect that you don't appreciate how little regard I have for the opinion of the rest of the world. 

It is this that I object to because it only increases the cycle of violence.

"Cycles of violence" only stop when one side is rendered inoperable. Which side would you have that be?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: illuminati on September 02, 2014, 12:20:05 PM
If you object to Islam in the UK you are a Racist >:( Patriotism is not what the Government wants. FUCK ISLAM












OH well I guess that marks me down as a racist.. ::)

I'm sure i will manage to live with it.. ;)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: ChopperRider on September 02, 2014, 12:29:18 PM
THIS is what happens when the British Government is too Cowardly to address the Issues at hand. I am not supporting in any way Racism. However we must Defend our way of life. Our traditions. Muslim pakis are Raping our young Girls..attacking people in Broad Daylight.


Any reason you're not posting this shit down on the Phaggoty U.K. subforum?

You got a lot of white knights down there ready to defend an extra large damsel in distress.

So fack off.....
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Voice of Doom on September 02, 2014, 06:02:33 PM
The problem isn't immigrants, muslims, blacks, jobs, war, welfare or poverty...those are symptoms.  The root problem is privately controlled central banks that issue debt fiat currency and control people's purchasing power. 99% of social ills come from this mechanism.

"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."
 -James A. Garfield, President of the United States
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 02, 2014, 06:21:00 PM
The problem isn't immigrants, muslims, blacks, jobs, war, welfare or poverty...those are symptoms.  The root problem is privately controlled central banks that issue debt fiat currency and control people's purchasing power. 99% of social ills come from this mechanism.

"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."
 -James A. Garfield, President of the United States
I dont fully understand the system, but ive heard some pretty smart dudes elaborate on why a gold standard would be non-functional in this day and age.

BUT, i still dont understand hiw we (or anyone else) ever let an outside, international company take over control of our monetary system.

How the FUCK does an international bank get to control our monetary supply? It boggles the mind how we let that happen.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 01:11:17 AM
It would seem Enoch Powell was correct ...
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 01:18:01 AM
Even a Leftist is seeing the truth at the end...40 years later !!
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 01:24:11 AM
So the solution from our Government is to be like the 3 Chinese Monkeys.. SEE NO EVIL .. HEAR NO EVIL...SPEAK NO EVIL...   let the future Generations pay for our Cowardice. He spoke the truth. Itīs undeniable.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 03, 2014, 01:26:40 AM
THIS is what happens when the British Government is too Cowardly to address the Issues at hand. I am not supporting in any way Racism. However we must Defend our way of life. Our traditions. Muslim pakis are Raping our young Girls..attacking people in Broad Daylight.


I like films like 'This is England' & 'Football Factory', nice people those English gents  ;)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Darren Avey on September 03, 2014, 01:28:17 AM
Even a Leftist is seeing the truth at the end...40 years later !!

#

I remember this Cleese interview, Left wing shitroll like the Guardian went mad calling him racist!!! HES STATING FACTS!! Im in London most days and some days I wont hear fluent English once apart from talking to myself!
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Conker on September 03, 2014, 01:29:50 AM
THIS is what happens when the British Government is too Cowardly to address the Issues at hand. I am not supporting in any way Racism. However we must Defend our way of life. Our traditions. Muslim pakis are Raping our young Girls..attacking people in Broad Daylight.


tbf the "our your girls" targeted by these grooming gangs, were mainly girls from children homes or runaways. that is the reason why this sht was allowed to go on for so long, because police and social worker gave no credence to their claims, "our" society had already turned its back on back on them.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 01:33:41 AM
tbf the "our your girls" targeted by these grooming gangs, were mainly girls from children homes or runaways. that is the reason why this sht was allowed to go on for so long, because police and social worker gave no credence to their claims, "our" society had already turned its back on back on them.
if anyone needed more help it was these young vulnerable children. They were just tossed aside like trash. I hope one Day those who failed these children get whatīs coming to them.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Wolfox on September 03, 2014, 01:34:29 AM
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Var City on September 03, 2014, 01:37:27 AM
Just looked up a few facts... There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world today. Of course not all of them are radicals.

The majority of them are peaceful people. The radicals are estimated to be between 15-25% according to all intelligence services around the world.

That leaves 75% of Muslim's to be deemed as "peaceful people".

 But when you look at 15-25% of the world's Muslim population, you're looking at 180 million to 300 million people dedicated to the destruction of Western civilization.

That is as big as the United States! That's just simple math!

So... why should we worry about the radical 15-25%? Because it is the radicals that kill. Because it is the radicals that behead and massacre

I also just had a thought. When I take a quick recap of history from what I learned in high school and uni and from life, this is just what comes off the top of my HEAD (with stats I just verified and looked up when I didn't know)

So let's take a history lesson GetBig!

Most Germans were peaceful. Yet the Nazis drove the agenda. And as a result, 60 million people died, almost 40 million in concentration camps. 6 million were Jews. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

Let's look at Russia, most Russians were peaceful as well. But the Russians were able to kill 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

How about China? Most Chinese were peaceful as well. Yet the Chinese were able to kill 70 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

What about...  Japan prior to World War II, most Japanese were peaceful people too. Yet, Japan was able to butcher its way across Southeast Asia, killing 12 million people, mostly killed by sticks and bayonets and shovels and barbaric shit like that. The peaceful majority were irrelevant

My hometown. Let's look at that. On September 11th in the United States we had 2.3 million Arab Muslims living in the United States. It took 19 hijackers - 19 radicals - to bring America to its knees, destroy the World Trade Center, attack the Pentagon and kill almost 3000 Americans that day. The peaceful majority were irrelevant!

So for all my power of reason, and for all the talk about moderate and peaceful Muslims, and all the people who say "well you can't fight ideology with weaponry", I remind you that the precedent is alarming and we are, through inaction, enabling GENOCIDE right now. I am pointing my fingers DIRECTLY at the US and UK governments.

It's time we take political correctness and throw it in the garbage where it belongs
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Var City on September 03, 2014, 01:44:58 AM
The problem isn't immigrants, muslims, blacks, jobs, war, welfare or poverty...those are symptoms.  The root problem is privately controlled central banks that issue debt fiat currency and control people's purchasing power. 99% of social ills come from this mechanism.

"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."
 -James A. Garfield, President of the United States

That's a cracked causal conditional; a broken causal nexus

In other words, the bold above is correct (the if)

but the then you have insinuated falsely is in fact not correct at all, italicized above

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Omega on September 03, 2014, 03:36:15 AM
Just looked up a few facts... There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world today. Of course not all of them are radicals.

The majority of them are peaceful people. The radicals are estimated to be between 15-25% according to all intelligence services around the world.

That leaves 75% of Muslim's to be deemed as "peaceful people".

 But when you look at 15-25% of the world's Muslim population, you're looking at 180 million to 300 million people dedicated to the destruction of Western civilization.

That is as big as the United States! That's just simple math!

So... why should we worry about the radical 15-25%? Because it is the radicals that kill. Because it is the radicals that behead and massacre

I also just had a thought. When I take a quick recap of history from what I learned in high school and uni and from life, this is just what comes off the top of my HEAD (with stats I just verified and looked up when I didn't know)

So let's take a history lesson GetBig!

Most Germans were peaceful. Yet the Nazis drove the agenda. And as a result, 60 million people died, almost 40 million in concentration camps. 6 million were Jews. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

Let's look at Russia, most Russians were peaceful as well. But the Russians were able to kill 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

How about China? Most Chinese were peaceful as well. Yet the Chinese were able to kill 70 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

What about...  Japan prior to World War II, most Japanese were peaceful people too. Yet, Japan was able to butcher its way across Southeast Asia, killing 12 million people, mostly killed by sticks and bayonets and shovels and barbaric shit like that. The peaceful majority were irrelevant

My hometown. Let's look at that. On September 11th in the United States we had 2.3 million Arab Muslims living in the United States. It took 19 hijackers - 19 radicals - to bring America to its knees, destroy the World Trade Center, attack the Pentagon and kill almost 3000 Americans that day. The peaceful majority were irrelevant!

So for all my power of reason, and for all the talk about moderate and peaceful Muslims, and all the people who say "well you can't fight ideology with weaponry", I remind you that the precedent is alarming and we are, through inaction, enabling GENOCIDE right now. I am pointing my fingers DIRECTLY at the US and UK governments.

It's time we take political correctness and throw it in the garbage where it belongs

All of the above is based on you believing what youre being told and indoctrinated.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 03, 2014, 03:39:45 AM
All of the above is based on you believing what youre being told and indoctrinated.
And all the information you have to counter that you have gleaned from cuckoo websites like Infowars.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 03, 2014, 03:49:58 AM
And all the information you have to counter that you have gleaned from cuckoo websites like Infowars.

The cognitive dissonance delusion in those that reflexively hate western civilization can be shocking to witness.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 03, 2014, 04:11:35 AM
The cognitive dissonance delusion in those that reflexively hate western civilization can be shocking to witness.
Im always amazed by these loons
They dismiss hundreds of years of historical evidence just because someone on Google has come up with some tinpot theory of the way they believe the world to be.
Ask them for evidence to back their claims and its always the same "Do your own research"
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Hulkotron on September 03, 2014, 04:15:29 AM
Sounds like "Donny's" ready to take it to the streets oh brother.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 04:31:18 AM
Sounds like "Donny's" ready to take it to the streets oh brother.
sounds like you are still Butt Hurt. Get over it.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Hulkotron on September 03, 2014, 04:34:09 AM
sounds like you are still Butt Hurt. Get over it.

Get over what ???

I also liked how you admitted you're too stupid to remember which language you're writing in.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 04:36:33 AM
Get over what ???

I also liked how you admitted you're too stupid to remember which language you're writing in.
sounds like you canīt read.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Hulkotron on September 03, 2014, 04:44:18 AM
sounds like you canīt read.

I can read just fine, although I do tend to gloss over your inane ramblings where you try to pretend you're some Special Forces badass.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 04:47:04 AM
I can read just fine, although I do tend to gloss over your inane ramblings where you try to pretend you're some Special Forces badass.
Kids like you should be seen and not heard.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Howard on September 03, 2014, 06:08:58 AM
Just looked up a few facts... There are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world today. Of course not all of them are radicals.

The majority of them are peaceful people. The radicals are estimated to be between 15-25% according to all intelligence services around the world.

That leaves 75% of Muslim's to be deemed as "peaceful people".

 But when you look at 15-25% of the world's Muslim population, you're looking at 180 million to 300 million people dedicated to the destruction of Western civilization.

That is as big as the United States! That's just simple math!

So... why should we worry about the radical 15-25%? Because it is the radicals that kill. Because it is the radicals that behead and massacre

I also just had a thought. When I take a quick recap of history from what I learned in high school and uni and from life, this is just what comes off the top of my HEAD (with stats I just verified and looked up when I didn't know)

So let's take a history lesson GetBig!

Most Germans were peaceful. Yet the Nazis drove the agenda. And as a result, 60 million people died, almost 40 million in concentration camps. 6 million were Jews. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

Let's look at Russia, most Russians were peaceful as well. But the Russians were able to kill 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

How about China? Most Chinese were peaceful as well. Yet the Chinese were able to kill 70 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

What about...  Japan prior to World War II, most Japanese were peaceful people too. Yet, Japan was able to butcher its way across Southeast Asia, killing 12 million people, mostly killed by sticks and bayonets and shovels and barbaric shit like that. The peaceful majority were irrelevant

My hometown. Let's look at that. On September 11th in the United States we had 2.3 million Arab Muslims living in the United States. It took 19 hijackers - 19 radicals - to bring America to its knees, destroy the World Trade Center, attack the Pentagon and kill almost 3000 Americans that day. The peaceful majority were irrelevant!

So for all my power of reason, and for all the talk about moderate and peaceful Muslims, and all the people who say "well you can't fight ideology with weaponry", I remind you that the precedent is alarming and we are, through inaction, enabling GENOCIDE right now. I am pointing my fingers DIRECTLY at the US and UK governments.

It's time we take political correctness and throw it in the garbage where it belongs

Ok, let's put this in more basic "getbig friendly" terms:
Even a town's biggest slut, will only screw  a small percentage of actual dicks in the area.
But those cocks will be the ones she sucks and gets plowed by.
The only cocks  she really feels, are ones shoved up her ass.

The majority of nonfuking cocks  are irrelevant. :D

Hope this helps .
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Skorp1o on September 03, 2014, 06:11:48 AM
Ok, let's put this in more basic "getbig friendly" terms:
Even a town's biggest slut, will only screw  a small percentage of actual dicks in the area.
But those cocks will be the ones she sucks and gets plowed by.
The only cocks  she really feels, are ones shoved up her ass.

The majority of nonfuking cocks  are irrelevant. :D

Hope this helps .

Not my ex.....I struggled finding one person who hadn't leaked his japs eye inside her.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 03, 2014, 06:39:34 AM
The British Prime Minister is a Disgrace to our CountryGo for it EDL.

I'm pretty sure David Cameron is a pedophile + he is completely owned by Israel.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 06:51:50 AM
This thread i put up to show the growing unrest in the UK and not to promote Nazi thugs. If Ronald or a Mod on here has a problem with it i will delete it no questions asked. I have my opinions on the radical Muslim problem like anyone else but i am not a Racist against colour or creed. I think some people seem to think i am but far from it.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Voice of Doom on September 03, 2014, 08:39:22 AM
That's a cracked causal conditional; a broken causal nexus

In other words, the bold above is correct (the if)

but the then you have insinuated falsely is in fact not correct at all, italicized above


I believe the causality is there.  Radicalism, political, social or religious, tends to arise in certain economic conditions.  When people have economic freedom to start a business, when jobs are plentiful, when taxes are low its hard to recruit them into radicalized groups.  Humans, for the most part, want a life of leisure and certainty which a growing middle class existence provides.  Central banks create a debt based money system that continues to debase the purchasing power of the people.  This is a natural occurrence because you have to borrow the fiat money and then borrow the money to pay back the interest.  You have to pay interest on the money you borrowed to pay the interest...and so on.  It is inevitable that the money supply increases exponentially.   More money in circulation equals more money chasing the same amount goods.  Hence, prices go up.  this is the inflation.  This inflation decreases the purchasing power of money people have worked their asses off to save. 
Those folks who live at the bottom of the economic ladder feel this loss of purchasing power the greatest.  Suddenly, basic items for survival become too expensive to acquire.  Panic sets in and humans (domesticated primates) start looking for simple answers and solutions.  Because the tenets of the modern banking system are difficult to understand (on purpose) most humans don't try.  Instead, they fall back on emotionally easier targets.  Humans are genetically programmed to be cautious of dissimilar things.  Instead of trying to fathom the complexities of Credit Swap derivatives its easier to look at someone who dresses differently, has a different language, wears a different religious symbol or has different colored skin.  There is an emotional satisfaction to being able to yell racial epithets.  There's an emotional satisfaction to using violence against other "groups".
There are, of course, crazy people in all circles of human institutions but their power is normally suppressed when the majority of people are working, their families are safe and they see a brighter future.  Remove those pillars of civilization and humans become ripe for radicalization.  That's what you have going on.  Huge inflation, middle class disintegration, and uncertainty. 
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 03, 2014, 09:02:02 AM
I believe the causality is there.  Radicalism, political, social or religious, tends to arise in certain economic conditions.  When people have economic freedom to start a business, when jobs are plentiful, when taxes are low its hard to recruit them into radicalized groups.  Humans, for the most part, want a life of leisure and certainty which a growing middle class existence provides.  Central banks create a debt based money system that continues to debase the purchasing power of the people.  This is a natural occurrence because you have to borrow the fiat money and then borrow the money to pay back the interest.  You have to pay interest on the money you borrowed to pay the interest...and so on.  It is inevitable that the money supply increases exponentially.   More money in circulation equals more money chasing the same amount goods.  Hence, prices go up.  this is the inflation.  This inflation decreases the purchasing power of money people have worked their asses off to save. 
Those folks who live at the bottom of the economic ladder feel this loss of purchasing power the greatest.  Suddenly, basic items for survival become too expensive to acquire.  Panic sets in and humans (domesticated primates) start looking for simple answers and solutions.  Because the tenets of the modern banking system are difficult to understand (on purpose) most humans don't try.  Instead, they fall back on emotionally easier targets.  Humans are genetically programmed to be cautious of dissimilar things.  Instead of trying to fathom the complexities of Credit Swap derivatives its easier to look at someone who dresses differently, has a different language, wears a different religious symbol or has different colored skin.  There is an emotional satisfaction to being able to yell racial epithets.  There's an emotional satisfaction to using violence against other "groups".
There are, of course, crazy people in all circles of human institutions but their power is normally suppressed when the majority of people are working, their families are safe and they see a brighter future.  Remove those pillars of civilization and humans become ripe for radicalization.  That's what you have going on.  Huge inflation, middle class disintegration, and uncertainty. 

A tad TL;DR, but well-stated.

The only thing that I might add is that inflation is not only excess money supply (M1) it is also the velocity of money (M2), or how quickly it changes hands. The central bank and the TBTF banks are suppressing the M2 by soaking up and parking excess liquidity in the equities market via the Fed's Primary Open Market Operations (POMO) plan. This has the opiate effect of placating the masses ("things are great! Look at the new high in the S&P500!") and also keeps M2 artificially low, keeping "inflation" (in quotes because CPI is a lie) down.

Frankly, there are times when I really felt for the Occupy Wall Street dickheads. They came so close to getting it right, but then they always stumble back on their bread and butter of socialism, "social justice" (  ::) ), and racism uber alles for explanations rather than the more obvious (and correct) nexus of progressive politics and crony capitalism.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: ChopperRider on September 03, 2014, 09:52:48 AM
This thread i put up to show the growing unrest in the UK and not to promote Nazi thugs. If Ronald or a Mod on here has a problem with it i will delete it no questions asked. I have my opinions on the radical Muslim problem like anyone else but i am not a Racist against colour or creed. I think some people seem to think i am but far from it.

In think it's a thinly veiled troll for EDL cock.

You're a fucking coward, this whole "taking it to the streets" is pure bullshit. You're a fucking 125 lb bedwetting coward, that blows Nigerians for spare change.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 03, 2014, 10:12:40 AM
In think it's a thinly veiled troll for EDL cock.

You're a fucking coward, this whole "taking it to the streets" is pure bullshit. You're a fucking 125 lb bedwetting coward, that blows Nigerians for spare change.
I have really fucked up your mind.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Voice of Doom on September 03, 2014, 10:16:21 AM
A tad TL;DR, but well-stated.

The only thing that I might add is that inflation is not only excess money supply (M1) it is also the velocity of money (M2), or how quickly it changes hands. The central bank and the TBTF banks are suppressing the M2 by soaking up and parking excess liquidity in the equities market via the Fed's Primary Open Market Operations (POMO) plan. This has the opiate effect of placating the masses ("things are great! Look at the new high in the S&P500!") and also keeps M2 artificially low, keeping "inflation" (in quotes because CPI is a lie) down.

Frankly, there are times when I really felt for the Occupy Wall Street dickheads. They came so close to getting it right, but then they always stumble back on their bread and butter of socialism, "social justice" (  ::) ), and racism uber alles for explanations rather than the more obvious (and correct) nexus of progressive politics and crony capitalism.

You are 100% correct on the M2.  The Fed and even the ECB can soak up inflation by containing velocity but other countries central banks cant...not if their currency is tied to the dollar.  You saw this happen in the Arab Spring.  While there were revolutionary forces already at work it was the cost of essential goods that brought people to the streets.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: ChopperRider on September 03, 2014, 11:18:35 AM
I have really fucked up your mind.

Wee Donny.....I'd piss in you and your EDL boyfriend's mouths and tell you it was raining.

Phaggot.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 04, 2014, 01:21:07 AM
Wee Donny.....I'd piss in you and your EDL boyfriend's mouths and tell you it was raining.

Phaggot.
now go and get your rubber dummy.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: ChopperRider on September 04, 2014, 07:25:04 AM
now go and get your rubber dummy.


I guess this is much funnier down on the UK board where the IQs are much, much lower.

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 04, 2014, 07:29:55 AM
I guess this is much funnier down on the UK board where the IQs are much, much lower.


Sorry but i canīt take a Kid like you serious.. i guess the UK Board didnīt either.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 04, 2014, 07:38:03 AM
You are 100% correct on the M2.  The Fed and even the ECB can soak up inflation by containing velocity but other countries central banks cant...not if their currency is tied to the dollar.  You saw this happen in the Arab Spring.  While there were revolutionary forces already at work it was the cost of essential goods that brought people to the streets.

It is pretty much always about money and perceived self interest, but are you suggesting that UK problems would disappear if there was greater "affluence" (for want of a better word)?

I don't think you're saying that so help me out here.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: ChopperRider on September 04, 2014, 07:42:46 AM
Sorry but i canīt take a Kid like you serious.. i guess the UK Board didnīt either.

I don't post on the UK board.....I'm not a homo, pedo, loser, or dicksucker like the member's there.

What is an old spermguzzling fag like you doing on a bodybuilding board anyway? If you're that desperate for cock in your ass, Ron can start another subforum for you creepy old toddler touchers.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 04, 2014, 07:49:19 AM
I don't post on the UK board.....I'm not a homo, pedo, loser, or dicksucker like the member's there.

What is an old spermguzzling fag like you doing on a bodybuilding board anyway? If you're that desperate for cock in your ass, Ron can start another subforum for you creepy old toddler touchers.
were you not the one just writing about intelligence? you clearly are getting upset. Shows your immature.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 04, 2014, 07:55:19 AM
It is pretty much always about money and perceived self interest, but are you suggesting that UK problems would disappear if there was greater "affluence" (for want of a better word)?

I don't think you're saying that so help me out here.

Well, I think that if every person was a millionaire, there would be not discontent in the streets, correct? There is no economic law that states that there needs to be winners and losers, but by allowing medical science and the welfare state to bypass Darwin, we've created a class of morons that demand spoon-feeding. They will always be the boogers underneath the carseat of life.

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: ChopperRider on September 04, 2014, 07:58:23 AM
were you not the one just writing about intelligence? you clearly are getting upset. Shows your immature.

The beauty of this rant is that it ends with a phaggoty thud when you don't know the difference between "you're" and "your".

Fuck off you black dick loving queer old prick!
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 04, 2014, 08:01:55 AM
some people in the UK just do not get out of their "rut". Not everyone gets a good start in life.. sure itīs down to the individual(s). Easier said than done. Iīm just so glad i fucked off when i did.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 04, 2014, 08:03:19 AM
Well, I think that if every person was a millionaire, there would be not discontent in the streets, correct? There is no economic law that states that there needs to be winners and losers, but by allowing medical science and the welfare state to bypass Darwin, we've created a class of morons that demand spoon-feeding. They will always be the boogers underneath the carseat of life.



I largely agree but if we look at the UK I think (not exactly my area of expertise) that we brought in a lot of Hindus and Muslims at roughly the same time.
You will now find a ton of Hindu (Indian) millionaires but the same affluence hasn't gone to the Muslims.  

Where your M1/M2/liquidity theory fits into this I don't quite see.

Not trolling/baiting here.  Only curious as to your thinking.

On a slightly unrelated point it is always interesting to see the difference between the black, Hindu and Muslim immigrants to the UK.  The success of the Hindu Indians destroys a huge part of the racism argument that many minorities use to justify their ongoing failures.

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 04, 2014, 08:07:47 AM
I largely agree but if we look at the UK I think (not exactly my area of expertise) that we brought in a lot of Hindus and Muslims at roughly the same time.
You will now find a ton of Hindu (Indian) millionaires but the same affluence hasn't gone to the Muslims.  

Where your M1/M2/liquidity theory fits into this I don't quite see.

Not trolling/baiting here.  Only curious as to your thinking.

On a slighertly unrelated point it is always interesting to see the difference between the black, Hindu and Muslim immigrants to the UK.  The success of the Hindu Indians destroys a huge part of the racism argument that many minorities use to justify their ongoing failures.


Hindus served with the British Army and were a part of our Colonial History(good and bad) they integrated much better.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 04, 2014, 08:29:43 AM
I largely agree but if we look at the UK I think (not exactly my area of expertise) that we brought in a lot of Hindus and Muslims at roughly the same time.
You will now find a ton of Hindu (Indian) millionaires but the same affluence hasn't gone to the Muslims.  

Where your M1/M2/liquidity theory fits into this I don't quite see.

Not trolling/baiting here.  Only curious as to your thinking.

On a slightly unrelated point it is always interesting to see the difference between the black, Hindu and Muslim immigrants to the UK.  The success of the Hindu Indians destroys a huge part of the racism argument that many minorities use to justify their ongoing failures.


Same with Asians in the US.

But theyre by and large ignored when talks of minority failures are going on, and if you even try and mention them, youre racist.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 04, 2014, 08:57:20 AM
Same with Asians in the US.

But theyre by and large ignored when talks of minority failures are going on, and if you even try and mention them, youre racist.

Have I read somewhere that you were in the USMC?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 04, 2014, 10:07:35 AM
Have I read somewhere that you were in the USMC?
Yes.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 04, 2014, 11:10:44 AM
Yes.

I assume that hardly any of your officers are actually black?  Contrary to what Hollywood would have us believe where every rank between Sergeant and Colonel seems to be a Hebrew.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 04, 2014, 11:18:17 AM
I assume that hardly any of your officers are actually black?  Contrary to what Hollywood would have us believe where every rank between Sergeant and Colonel seems to be a Hebrew.
Uh.... i dont know the answer. I never really even paid attention to the racial statistics.

But now that you mention it, no, there weren't a lot of black officers. There were a few here and there, and a couple Warrant officers were black... but the vast majority of officers that i saw were white, and a couple latinos/Hispanics.

Tons of hispanic enlisted, small percentage of blacks, smaller percentage of asians.

Senior enlisted seemed to be fairly racially even.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _aj_ on September 04, 2014, 11:20:33 AM
I assume that hardly any of your officers are actually black?  Contrary to what Hollywood would have us believe where every rank between Sergeant and Colonel seems to be a Hebrew.

Actually, my old college roommate is an Army LTC JAG and he says that these days, the only officers being advanced to MAJ, LTC and especially COL are the Hebrews. It's like a kind of reverse racism (also called "racism"). He's got 22 years in and has found a sweet MOS at the War College to run out his 30.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: HonestBob on September 04, 2014, 11:24:46 AM
Hmm..in my work I've met scores of retired Seals.  Not a single Hebrew.

That might mean there's few Hebrews in my line of work (true) and have nothing to do with Seals.

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 04, 2014, 12:12:31 PM
Hmm..in my work I've met scores of retired Seals.  Not a single Hebrew.

That might mean there's few Hebrews in my line of work (true) and have nothing to do with Seals.


Special Forces may be a different story.  Theres a few hebrews in Recon, id say statistically it about matches their perfentage of population. So of their 10% of population, id say theyre about 10% of the Recon guys ive seen running around.

Id say that hispanics are over-represented... tons of hispanics enlist in the Marines.

I think their representaion in the Officers is so low because they have to go to college and get a degree before becoming officers.... so if theyre only 10% of general population, then how many of those graduate from college? Now how many of those actually join the Marines?

That makes sense why i saw so few black officers.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Ken Fresno on September 05, 2014, 01:30:26 PM
My old OC was black and had done a stint in UKSF. One of the most switched on officers I've met and like anyone with half a brain got out of the army at the first opportunity.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: residue on September 05, 2014, 01:50:01 PM
Hindus served with the British Army and were a part of our Colonial History(good and bad) they integrated much better.

same with the sikhs, if i recall they've got their own branch of the edl

https://www.facebook.com/EDLSikhs

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Teutonic Knight on September 05, 2014, 01:51:32 PM
THIS is what happens when the British Government is too Cowardly to address the Issues at hand. I am not supporting in any way Racism. However we must Defend our way of life. Our traditions. Muslim pakis are Raping our young Girls..attacking people in Broad Daylight.


Last night on TV : new 30 km long barbed wire/motion sensors/cctv on Bulgarian EC border to stop Arabs ........so far nobody
                         is attempting to cross it .............
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 05, 2014, 02:25:45 PM
The vid the OP posted is almost 5 years old? All of the indignant tough talkers in this thread will do the same thing the losers in the video have done about whatever they're all worked up about. NOTHING.

I don't get why guys are always talking about grabbing their guns, taking it to the streets, bashing heads, etc., etc., when they know fully well they aren't going to do shit.

There are plenty of people that will,.... its just that there has to be a spark to light the fuse. And i dont think any gocernment is dumb enough in the modern age to do soemthing to light that fuse, that would cause the citizens to rise up.

They have way too many specialists in human behavior guiding all their actions, they know exactly what to sya and do to keep people from going over that edge.

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 05, 2014, 02:38:22 PM
Really? Seems like these guys are pretty worked up about their daughters getting raped by Muslims, or something like that. If that's not enough to light the fuse, what is?
Media does a good job diffusing the tension. Im talking like a 'shot heard round the world' moment where everyone has a righteous moral outrage moment.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Ken Fresno on September 05, 2014, 02:47:59 PM
Media does a good job diffusing the tension. Im talking like a 'shot heard round the world' moment where everyone has a righteous moral outrage moment.

If a British soldier getting beheaded in the street doesn't set the people off, I doubt anything will. Most people have it pretty good, why would would you potentially risk that for someone you don't know?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 05, 2014, 03:31:39 PM
If a British soldier getting beheaded in the street doesn't set the people off, I doubt anything will. Most people have it pretty good, why would would you potentially risk that for someone you don't know?
Itd have to be an innocent or soemthing, a child getting beheaded right in the streets...

When soldiers get killed, people shrug it iff, after all, theyre soldiers, they volunteer to put a target on their head
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: The Scott on September 05, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
Separation of church and  state civility vs the Islamic world of separation of head and shoulders.

No backlash until the worlds gets a backbone.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Mawse on September 05, 2014, 04:54:32 PM
Same with Asians in the US.

But theyre by and large ignored when talks of minority failures are going on, and if you even try and mention them, youre racist.

Several Silicon Valley giants have recently been publically handwringing about their lack of diversity, all have said Asians "don't count" as minorities and Facebook even replaced it's Asian diversity chief with an Angry Black Woman to show how serious they were.

EDL are scum, the same shitbags who gave my mixed race family in the UK abuse for decades. Fuck them they're as bad as the militant muzzies
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 05, 2014, 06:21:14 PM
Several Silicon Valley giants have recently been publically handwringing about their lack of diversity, all have said Asians "don't count" as minorities and Facebook even replaced it's Asian diversity chief with an Angry Black Woman to show how serious they were.

EDL are scum, the same shitbags who gave my mixed race family in the UK abuse for decades. Fuck them they're as bad as the militant muzzies
Its because asians disprove the 'oppressed, disenfranchised minority' theme that companies have to appear to be sensitive about.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Hulkotron on September 05, 2014, 06:34:04 PM
Asians are among the best races imho, a hard-working intelligent and industrious people.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 05, 2014, 06:46:01 PM
Asians are among the best races imho, a hard-working intelligent and industrious people.
Although the 1st generation ones who swarm like locusts when there is free knick knacks, or rudely knock everyone out of the way and cut in line while refusing to acknowledge that they speak english can be annoying.

But overa, much harder worming working than most. Hence why no one will allow them to be duscussed when whining about minorities failing to perform, because if they acknowledged the Asians success, they wouldnt have the ability to use whitey and the government as a scapegoat and theyd actually have to admit to themselves that they have no one to blame for their failures but themselves.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Archer77 on September 05, 2014, 06:56:03 PM
Several Silicon Valley giants have recently been publically handwringing about their lack of diversity, all have said Asians "don't count" as minorities and Facebook even replaced it's Asian diversity chief with an Angry Black Woman to show how serious they were.

EDL are scum, the same shitbags who gave my mixed race family in the UK abuse for decades. Fuck them they're as bad as the militant muzzies

It's to bad they didn't see who the real bad guys are and instead chose to fuck with your law abiding family.  If they hadnt have been such dicks they might havd had another member of their party. 
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 06, 2014, 12:27:55 AM
we donīt want this shit back in the UK. Made your Bed now rot in it ...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/507284/We-want-to-come-home-the-remorseful-Britons-who-don-t-want-to-be-jihadis-anymore
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 06, 2014, 12:37:35 AM
On the German news last Night...this Disease is spreading. The soft approach from Liberal fuck wits will not solve this...Waken up !
http://www.dw.de/locals-concerned-as-sharia-police-patrol-streets-of-german-city/a-17904887
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 06, 2014, 02:43:01 AM
we donīt want this shit back in the UK. Made your Bed now rot in it ...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/507284/We-want-to-come-home-the-remorseful-Britons-who-don-t-want-to-be-jihadis-anymore

They are criminals who have been caught.  Now they want to change their ways to avoid jail.

What are the odds your piss weak govt and courts will "let them off" with a slap on the wrist?

I know your courts release Islamic child rapists with no jail time...
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 06, 2014, 02:44:09 AM
we donīt want this shit back in the UK. Made your Bed now rot in it ...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/507284/We-want-to-come-home-the-remorseful-Britons-who-don-t-want-to-be-jihadis-anymore

Also, bare minimum, shouldn't they be treated as traitors?  eg. someone who fought with an enemy force against the allies?
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 06, 2014, 03:12:45 AM
Also, bare minimum, shouldn't they be treated as traitors?  eg. someone who fought with an enemy force against the allies?
should be put in jail and then kicked out the UK.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 06, 2014, 03:27:38 AM
we donīt want this shit back in the UK. Made your Bed now rot in it ...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/507284/We-want-to-come-home-the-remorseful-Britons-who-don-t-want-to-be-jihadis-anymore

Also funny how after they establish their caliphate in Iraq the want to return to Britain.  Can't stand the idea of living in their own caliphate?  Need to come live in the white man's world.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: ChopperRider on September 06, 2014, 07:53:03 AM
should be put in jail and then kicked out the UK.

Twink Donny talking tough from the safety of his mom's basement.....

Phaggot.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 06, 2014, 08:04:08 AM
For europe to survive, nationalism needs to rise again. Simple as that. Their native populations and cultures(you know, the ones who built the modern world and created nations that every person on earth wants to get into) are rapidly dying off and being displaced by foreign third worlders.
the elected officials (liberal globalists all of them) are doing everything they can to undermine and ruin their OWN NATIONS AND CULTURES while pandering to any and all foreigners. This is called treason...its just so blatant and rampant no one notices anymore.

A lot of people get scared and nervous at rising nationalism (since they have been taugh it is evil and racist to want to defend your nation and its people ::) ) but it is the ONLY thing that can save europe.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: ChopperRider on September 06, 2014, 08:13:33 AM
For europe to survive, nationalism needs to rise again. Simple as that. Their native populations and cultures(you know, the ones who built the modern world and created nations that every person on earth wants to get into) are rapidly dying off and being displaced by foreign third worlders.
the elected officials (liberal globalists all of them) are doing everything they can to undermine and ruin their OWN NATIONS AND CULTURES while pandering to any and all foreigners. This is called treason...its just so blatant and rampant no one notices anymore.

A lot of people get scared and nervous at rising nationalism (since they have been taugh it is evil and racist to want to defend your nation and its people ::) ) but it is the ONLY thing that can save europe.

You are correct about electing Liberals. But for some reason the uneducated and inexperienced younger voters think it is "cool" and "trendy" to act like lemmings and vote for the biggest idiots on the ballot.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: TrueGrit on September 06, 2014, 08:13:53 AM
Converts to Islam and cuts the head off an 80 year old woman in broad daylight. After beheading a cat!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2745629/Revealed-How-Muslim-arrested-gran-s-beheading-loner-never-job-nicknamed-Fat-Nick.html

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/05/1409953439555_wps_15_EXC_PRINT_BEFORE_WEB_EXCL.jpg)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 06, 2014, 08:16:41 AM
You are correct about electing Liberals. But for some reason the uneducated and inexperienced younger voters think it is "cool" and "trendy" to act like lemmings and vote for the biggest idiots on the ballot.

yeah you are right, this is stark contrast to other eastern and southern europe where you will getting teenagers voting for jobbik and golden dawn.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Lord Chronos on September 06, 2014, 08:22:15 AM
Converts to Islam and cuts the head off an 80 year old woman in broad daylight. After beheading a cat!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2745629/Revealed-How-Muslim-arrested-gran-s-beheading-loner-never-job-nicknamed-Fat-Nick.html

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/05/1409953439555_wps_15_EXC_PRINT_BEFORE_WEB_EXCL.jpg)

The other thing was amazing was how the first thing the police said when this happened is that they believe it was not terrorist related!!

And now you find out he is muslim, yet no doubt the governing authorities will claim that this was completed unrelated and just simply a murder where the wrong person was in the wrong place at the wrong time. As oppose to saying we shouldnt have let this nut job into the country in the first place!
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 06, 2014, 08:30:56 AM
You are correct about electing Liberals. But for some reason the uneducated and inexperienced younger voters think it is "cool" and "trendy" to act like lemmings and vote for the biggest idiots on the ballot.

It's called being to cowardly to speak up and stand up.  Same sort of cowards will do all sorts of evil to "fit in."
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 06, 2014, 08:32:50 AM
The other thing was amazing was how the first thing the police said when this happened is that they believe it was not terrorist related!!

British bobbies are very loyal servants of big brother.  They will come for you and your family if big brother commands it.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 06, 2014, 08:57:02 AM
You are correct about electing Liberals. But for some reason the uneducated and inexperienced younger voters think it is "cool" and "trendy" to act like lemmings and vote for the biggest idiots on the ballot.
Because thats the history and bias they're being taught in shools.... my school was the same way, they taught history and government with a liberal bias, and demonised progressives in subtle ways... kids didnt pick up on it because it came across somewhat unbiased.... but they basically were teaching that its only liberals and democrats who care about peoples lives and families and conservatives and republicans dont want to give people a fair shot at life, liberty, or freedoms.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: ChopperRider on September 06, 2014, 08:59:51 AM
Because thats the history and bias they're being taught in shools.... my school was the same way, they taught history and government with a liberal bias, and demonised progressives in subtle ways... kids didnt pick up on it because it came across somewhat unbiased.... but they basically were teaching that its only liberals and democrats who care about peoples lives and families and conservatives and republicans dont want to give people a fair shot at life, liberty, or freedoms.

Yes.....Universities are havens for liberal fuckheads who have never been able to cut it in the real world.

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 06, 2014, 09:02:05 AM
Because thats the history and bias they're being taught in shools.... my school was the same way, they taught history and government with a liberal bias, and demonised progressives in subtle ways... kids didnt pick up on it because it came across somewhat unbiased.... but they basically were teaching that its only liberals and democrats who care about peoples lives and families and conservatives and republicans dont want to give people a fair shot at life, liberty, or freedoms.

I only know a few liberals, because in general I don't like them.  The few that I know are FAKE as fuck people.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Conker on September 06, 2014, 09:04:36 AM
The other thing was amazing was how the first thing the police said when this happened is that they believe it was not terrorist related!!

And now you find out he is muslim, yet no doubt the governing authorities will claim that this was completed unrelated and just simply a murder where the wrong person was in the wrong place at the wrong time. As oppose to saying we shouldnt have let this nut job into the country in the first place!

well 82 year old grannies in their back garden and cats are not the usual target for terrorists so why would the police suspect terrorism? terrorists usually have some sort of political agenda, from the sound of it this guy just went mental and got the urge to behead things....probably all the talk about beheading in the media lately tipped him over the edge
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Shockwave on September 06, 2014, 09:09:45 AM
Yes.....Universities are havens for liberal fuckheads who have never been able to cut it in the real world.


This was high school man... the teachers were subtly steering the kids towards liberalism as 14yr olds, all the way through...
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 06, 2014, 09:14:31 AM
well 82 year old grannies in their back garden and cats are not the usual target for terrorists so why would the police suspect terrorism? terrorists usually have some sort of political agenda, from the sound of it this guy just went mental and got the urge to behead things....probably all the talk about beheading in the media lately tipped him over the edge

He is a muslim, probably taught to hate "successful" non muslims and whites.  He is a crazy low IQ African.  BAD combo.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Mawse on September 06, 2014, 09:54:48 AM
It's to bad they didn't see who the real bad guys are and instead chose to fuck with your law abiding family.  If they hadnt have been such dicks they might havd had another member of their party.  

EDL/BNP would never, ever get my support - I remember as a little kid, high school dropout Chav scum yelling "go back to where you came from" at the little kids of a surgeon (my uncle)

They don't care who the "darkie" is, in their eyes an immigrant who lives in a million pound house and saves peoples lives is less valuable than a white welfare career criminal. Half my family is Indian or Caribbean  and my wife's family is from Trinidad and they would abuse them all  ::)

UKIP thankfully dropped the racism and anti drug talk but they'll never win with so many British either hardcore labour parasites or "one more chance for the Tories , this time they'll really do it" voters

Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Archer77 on September 06, 2014, 09:57:30 AM
well 82 year old grannies in their back garden and cats are not the usual target for terrorists so why would the police suspect terrorism? terrorists usually have some sort of political agenda, from the sound of it this guy just went mental and got the urge to behead things....probably all the talk about beheading in the media lately tipped him over the edge

Its an act of terror.  The intent of an attack like this is to instill fear in the average non-military people that they qre not safe even in the comfort of their own country and home.  Terrorism becomes local and personalized.  
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Archer77 on September 06, 2014, 09:59:06 AM
EDL/BNP would never, ever get my support - high school dropout Chav scum yelling "go back to where you came from" at the little kids of a surgeon

They don't care who the "darkie" is, in their eyes an immigrant who lives in a million pound house and saves peoples lives is less valuable than a white welfare career criminal. Half my family is Indian or Caribbean  and my wife's family is from Trinidad and they would abuse them all  ::)

UKIP thankfully dropped the racism and anti drug talk but they'll never win with so many British either hardcore labour parasites or "one more chance for the Tories , this time they'll really do it" voters



Im totally on your side here.  I wasnt being sarcastic.  I hope I didnt come off that way.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 06, 2014, 10:01:23 AM
Twink Donny talking tough from the safety of his mom's basement.....

Phaggot.
Listen Paki stick to Bullying women.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: noc on September 06, 2014, 10:44:31 AM
Listen Paki stick to Bullying women.

Clearly not racist at all Donny ;)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Donny on September 06, 2014, 10:50:21 AM
Clearly not racist at all Donny ;)
he's a fucking stalker .  Little sex pest .
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: George Whorewell on September 06, 2014, 11:14:29 AM
THIS is what happens when the British Government is too Cowardly to address the Issues at hand. I am not supporting in any way Racism. However we must Defend our way of life. Our traditions. Muslim pakis are Raping our young Girls..attacking people in Broad Daylight.


God bless the EDL. I agree with their mission 100%.

One thing that irritates the shit out of me-- Where is the documentary about the violent jihadist filth infesting the UK? Nope. Sorry. That's racist.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 06, 2014, 11:45:53 AM
God bless the EDL. I agree with their mission 100%.

One thing that irritates the shit out of me-- Where is the documentary about the violent jihadist filth infesting the UK? Nope. Sorry. That's racist.

FUCK the British press bro.  Funny thing is in an Islamic caliphate they would be at the top of the "to be beheaded" list.  And if they were it wouldn't bother me too much.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: _bruce_ on September 06, 2014, 01:49:42 PM
EDL and co. are nice but no base for a true change - media, education and politics have to change before we've been totally overrun. All those pesky collectivist traitors which destroy nations from within need to be taken care off.
Same with America, since the 60ies you've been dismantled.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Conker on September 06, 2014, 01:58:31 PM
Its an act of terror.  The intent of an attack like this is to instill fear in the average non-military people that they qre not safe even in the comfort of their own country and home.  Terrorism becomes local and personalized.  

i will bet that is utter BS. i will bet this guy has a history of mental illness. there was no political motivation behind this, it's just a random nutter that killed a random stranger...and a cat
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: TrueGrit on September 06, 2014, 02:01:15 PM
i will bet that is utter BS. i will bet this guy has a history of mental illness. there was no political motivation behind this, it's just a random nutter that killed a random stranger...and a cat

A year after he converted to Islam. Although I do actually agree.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Archer77 on September 06, 2014, 02:07:30 PM
i will bet that is utter BS. i will bet this guy has a history of mental illness. there was no political motivation behind this, it's just a random nutter that killed a random stranger...and a cat

Doesnt mean Islam didn't provide the motivation to commit the act
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Conker on September 06, 2014, 02:18:21 PM
A year after he converted to Islam. Although I do actually agree.

think that is just coincidence.

"The 25-year-old murdered the elderly woman after going on the rampage through back gardens ranting about cats.

The Standard described how one witness heard him shouting “the cats have stolen my lighter” before decapitating a defenceless animal."

yep all the hallmarks of a high ranking al qaeda operative
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Conker on September 06, 2014, 02:20:33 PM
Doesnt mean Islam didn't provide the motivation to commit the act


i think the cats that stole his lighter probably provided more
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Archer77 on September 06, 2014, 02:23:59 PM

i think the cats that stole his lighter probably provided more

I doubt that.  Beheading is a popular pass time for muslims or have you forgotten that.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Conker on September 06, 2014, 02:33:31 PM
I doubt that.  Beheading is a popular pass time for muslims or have you forgotten that.

well the fact that eye witnesses said he was ranting about cats stealing his lighter just before he started chopping the heads off things may be a clue(?)
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Archer77 on September 06, 2014, 02:34:54 PM
well the fact that eye witnesses said he was ranting about cats stealing his lighter just before he started chopping the heads off things may be a clue(?)


Where did he get the idea to chop off someone's head?  It must have been the cat ;D  Mohammad loved cats!
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Conker on September 06, 2014, 02:47:21 PM
Where did he get the idea to chop off someone's head?  It must have been the cat ;D  Mohammad loved cats!

well if it fits your agenda, why let the facts of the incident get in the way!
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: Archer77 on September 06, 2014, 02:51:52 PM
well if it fits your agenda, why let the facts of the incident get in the way!

How ironic coming from you, Mr. Apologist himself
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 06, 2014, 08:01:04 PM
i will bet that is utter BS. i will bet this guy has a history of mental illness. there was no political motivation behind this, it's just a random nutter that killed a random stranger...and a cat

The beheading is pretty clearly inspired by his brothers in the faith.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: muscleman-2013 on September 06, 2014, 08:03:19 PM
All those pesky collectivist traitors which destroy nations from within need to be taken care off.

YES.   We need a modern day Nuremburg trial of these fuckers.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: jephrius on September 06, 2014, 08:50:52 PM
THIS is what happens when the British Government is too Cowardly to address the Issues at hand. I am not supporting in any way Racism. However we must Defend our way of life. Our traditions. Muslim pakis are Raping our young Girls..attacking people in Broad Daylight.

Too little too late. You will be absorbed into Islam.
Title: Re: English Defence League(EDL)
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on September 07, 2014, 12:00:25 AM
EDL and co. are nice but no base for a true change - media, education and politics have to change before we've been totally overrun. All those pesky collectivist traitors which destroy nations from within need to be taken care off.
Same with America, since the 60ies you've been dismantled.

From the inside out. Exactly