Obama's Job Approval Drops Below Carter's

[Shockwave]

I still can't figure out why the most anti-business president of all time was elected to try and clean up the biggest economic disaster since the depression.

x2

I think it was more of a "Hes not Bush" Thing.
Almost everyone I know of that voted for him, voted for him because they associated the republican party with everything Bush, and all they wanted was "Change" 

[bigkid]

x2

I think it was more of a "Hes not Bush" Thing.
Almost everyone I know of that voted for him, voted for him because they associated the republican party with everything Bush, and all they wanted was "Change" 

I totally agree.  I used to be really into politics, but that actions of both parties the last 6 or so years really soured me on it.

[thelamefalsehood]

it matters. lets say the ideal conservative was in office. he killed the epa, cut taxes on corporations, didnt put in the healthcare reform.. and everything else the republicans think should have happened/should be done. what do you think his approval rating would be ?

Doing these two things alone would go far in reversing course with the mess we are in. And even if those two things skewed the approval rating at there onset, approval ratings would eventually go up simply because the economy got back on track. I'm sure you will now tell me how wrong and misinformed I am

[tbombz]

I still can't figure out why the most anti-business president of all time was elected to try and clean up the biggest economic disaster since the depression.

  obama is extremely pragmatic and has been very agreeable with republicans on most economic issues, from taxation to regulation, he has angered the left on numerous issues by siding with conservatives.

[tbombz]

Doing these two things alone would go far in reversing course with the mess we are in. And even if those two things skewed the approval rating at there onset, approval ratings would eventually go up simply because the economy got back on track. I'm sure you will now tell me how wrong and misinformed I am

sure, doing both of those things would improve the economy, at the very least, in the short run. and yup, approval ratings would probably go up because of it. your not wrong there.

but the long terms costs, both social and economic, associated with both of those actions owuld far outweigh the short term benefits.

[njanvi]

Doing these two things alone would go far in reversing course with the mess we are in. And even if those two things skewed the approval rating at there onset, approval ratings would eventually go up simply because the economy got back on track. I'm sure you will now tell me how wrong and misinformed I am

So you not only want to breath smog and drink dirty water, you'll gladly do it w no way of treating the illness that results from it

[bigkid]

  obama is extremely pragmatic and has been very agreeable with republicans on most economic issues, from taxation to regulation, he has angered the left on numerous issues by siding with conservatives.

What do you do for a living?  You're obviously not a business owner.

[tbombz]

So you not only want to breath smog and drink dirty water, you'll gladly do it w no way of treating the illness that results from it

bro, the market regulates itself, dont you know that. government regulations are bound to be at the least ineffecient, most likely ineffective, and at worse counter productive.

[deadz]

President Obama's slow ride down Gallup's daily presidential job approval index has finally passed below Jimmy Carter, earning Obama the worst job approval rating of any president at this stage of his term in modern political history.

Since March, Obama's job approval rating has hovered above Carter's, considered among the 20th century's worst presidents, but today Obama's punctured Carter's dismal job approval line. On their comparison chart, Gallup put Obama's job approval rating at 43 percent compared to Carter's 51 percent.

[Check out our editorial cartoons on President Obama.]

Back in 1979, Carter was far below Obama until the Iran hostage crisis, eerily being duplicated in Tehran today with Iranian protesters storming the British embassy. The early days of the crisis helped Carter's ratings, though his failure to win the release of captured Americans, coupled with a bad economy, led to his defeat by Ronald Reagan in 1980.

According to Gallup, here are the job approval numbers for other presidents at this stage of their terms, a year before the re-election campaign:

-- Harry S. Truman: 54 percent.

-- Dwight Eisenhower: 78 percent.

-- Lyndon B. Johnson: 44 percent.

-- Richard M. Nixon: 50 percent.

-- Ronald Reagan: 54 percent.

-- George H.W. Bush: 52 percent.

-- Bill Clinton: 51 percent.

-- George W. Bush: 55 percent.

What's more, Gallup finds that Obama's overall job approval rating so far has averaged 49 percent. Only three former presidents have had a worse average rating at this stage: Carter, Ford, and Harry S. Truman. Only Truman won re-election in an anti-Congress campaign that Obama's team is using as a model.

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Many pundits believe that job approval ratings are the key number to look at when determining if a president will win re-election. Generally, they feel that a president should be higher than 47 percent to win re-election.

Obama's troubles have revived talk in Democratic circles that Vice President Joe Biden should be replaced by the politically popular Hillary Clinton. She plans to leave as secretary of state at the end of Obama's term no matter what happens in the re-election.

A key Democratic source said that Clinton could help revive the Democratic base and bring in Clinton backers, with whom the administration has had a cool relationship. Clinton has repeatedly rejected talk of her swapping roles with Biden, but Democratic operatives eager to keep the president in office believe that she would be the key to winning educated white voters and liberals upset with the administration's actions.


http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/11/29/obamas-job-approval-drops-below-carters

 

[njanvi]

bro, the market regulates itself, dont you know that. government regulations are bound to be at the least ineffecient, most likely ineffective, and at worse counter productive.

In the very long term, that is absolutely true. Question for u is how many kids are u willing to have die while we wait for the market to self correct?

[tbombz]

What do you do for a living?  You're obviously not a business owner.

im a candidate for president in 2012. i promise to get rid of the minimum wage, all environmental regulations on business, remove the healthcare reform from law, take away unions rights to collective bargaining and reduce corporate tax rates down to 3%. will you vote for me?

[thelamefalsehood]

So you not only want to breath smog and drink dirty water, you'll gladly do it w no way of treating the illness that results from it

I have healthcare and so does my family. I drink bottled water as well and live near unpolluted air, so I'm good. Problems solved  

[tbombz]

In the very long term, that is absolutely true. Question for u is how many kids are u willing to have die while we wait for the market to self correct?

  in theory its true but in practice its bullshit. i was being facetious.

[njanvi]

I have healthcare and so does my family. I drink bottled water as well and live near unpolluted air, so I'm good. Problems solved  

And fuck everyone else, right  

[njanvi]

  in theory its true but in practice its bullshit. i was being facetious.

 
This blind belief in markets being self correcting never ceases to amaze me.

[thelamefalsehood]

And fuck everyone else, right  

I don't mind being "my brothers keeper", but sometimes your brother is a lazy bum who needs his ass kicked.

[njanvi]

I don't mind being "my brothers keeper", but sometimes your brother is a lazy bum who needs his ass kicked.

Nope, except we can't individually clean the air or water. In this case, collective action indeed is required.
I'm a small, limited govt guy, however, I happen to believe that this is one of the most important functions of government.

[njanvi]

I don't mind being "my brothers keeper", but sometimes your brother is a lazy bum who needs his ass kicked.

Btw, why is it that so many seem to believe that whomever does not have is lazy and unwilling to work?
Plenty of hard working folk out there struggling just to get by man

[bigkid]

im a candidate for president in 2012. i promise to get rid of the minimum wage, all environmental regulations on business, remove the healthcare reform from law, take away unions rights to collective bargaining and reduce corporate tax rates down to 3%. will you vote for me?

Nope.  The useless paper work I have to do for my business has at least doubled if not tripled in the last 3 years. Every month, I have a new fresh out of college kid at the door telling me out a new govt regulation to comply with.  Really important stuff too.  I have porta pottys on my job sites.  I now have to document the exact time and first and last name of the guy cleaning the toilets.  We use primus labs for our food safety program.  They are considered the top level food safety auditing company.  Well guess what, now the govt has decided to come up with their own program.  Hit you with a fee for more govt workers to come out.  I had to buy a govt supplied wind sock and measure the wind on a job site.  I could go on and on. They even sent a kid that couldn't speak english.  I'm serious, not a lick of english.

The funny thing is, where we need regulation, on wall street, we've got none.  Obama's buddy John Corzine just bankrupted his company using insane leverage with risky bets.  My buddy has an investment company.  He used MF global as a clearinghouse for some of his accounts.  His accounts are required by law to be segregated from MF globals own funds.  Well they weren't, and now all his money and clients money is frozen/missing right now.  So basically this administration cares more about who's cleaning shit out of my toilets then they do righting the wrongs that got us in this economic meltdown.

[Shockwave]

Nope.  The useless paper work I have to do for my business has at least doubled if not tripled in the last 3 years. Every month, I have a new fresh out of college kid at the door telling me out a new govt regulation to comply with.  Really important stuff too.  I have porta pottys on my job sites.  I now have to document the exact time and first and last name of the guy cleaning the toilets.  We use primus labs for our food safety program.  They are considered the top level food safety auditing company.  Well guess what, now the govt has decided to come up with their own program.  Hit you with a fee for more govt workers to come out.  I had to buy a govt supplied wind sock and measure the wind on a job site.  I could go on and on. They even sent a kid that couldn't speak english.  I'm serious, not a lick of english.

The funny thing is, where we need regulation, on wall street, we've got none.  Obama's buddy John Corzine just bankrupted his company using insane leverage with risky bets.  My buddy has an investment company.  He used MF global as a clearinghouse for some of his accounts.  His accounts are required by law to be segregated from MF globals own funds.  Well they weren't, and now all his money and clients money is frozen/missing right now.  So basically this administration cares more about who's cleaning shit out of my toilets then they do righting the wrongs that got us in this economic meltdown.

People wont like hearing the truth.

[thelamefalsehood]

Btw, why is it that so many seem to believe that whomever does not have is lazy and unwilling to work?
Plenty of hard working folk out there struggling just to get by man

Thats what I also meant when I said "my brothers keeper". If a guy is having a hard time getting a job but is trying, most people have no problem giving a helping hand, me included. But our society as a whole, seem to be just as happy to just take a handout. You didn't see this years ago, but we have a sense of entitlement that has spread like the plague in the last 10-15 years.

[thelamefalsehood]

Nope.  The useless paper work I have to do for my business has at least doubled if not tripled in the last 3 years. Every month, I have a new fresh out of college kid at the door telling me out a new govt regulation to comply with.  Really important stuff too.  I have porta pottys on my job sites.  I now have to document the exact time and first and last name of the guy cleaning the toilets.  We use primus labs for our food safety program.  They are considered the top level food safety auditing company.  Well guess what, now the govt has decided to come up with their own program.  Hit you with a fee for more govt workers to come out.  I had to buy a govt supplied wind sock and measure the wind on a job site.  I could go on and on. They even sent a kid that couldn't speak english.  I'm serious, not a lick of english.

The funny thing is, where we need regulation, on wall street, we've got none.  Obama's buddy John Corzine just bankrupted his company using insane leverage with risky bets.  My buddy has an investment company.  He used MF global as a clearinghouse for some of his accounts.  His accounts are required by law to be segregated from MF globals own funds.  Well they weren't, and now all his money and clients money is frozen/missing right now.  So basically this administration cares more about who's cleaning shit out of my toilets then they do righting the wrongs that got us in this economic meltdown.

Tbombz, you just got pwned. A real life business owner with real life experience in this bad economy. Go ahead and tell him how he is wrong to complain. How all these government regulations are for his own good. This is a dose of reality hairy....

[Montague]

Nope.  The useless paper work I have to do for my business has at least doubled if not tripled in the last 3 years. Every month, I have a new fresh out of college kid at the door telling me out a new govt regulation to comply with.  Really important stuff too.  I have porta pottys on my job sites.  I now have to document the exact time and first and last name of the guy cleaning the toilets.  We use primus labs for our food safety program.  They are considered the top level food safety auditing company.  Well guess what, now the govt has decided to come up with their own program.  Hit you with a fee for more govt workers to come out.  I had to buy a govt supplied wind sock and measure the wind on a job site.  I could go on and on. They even sent a kid that couldn't speak english.  I'm serious, not a lick of english.

The funny thing is, where we need regulation, on wall street, we've got none.  Obama's buddy John Corzine just bankrupted his company using insane leverage with risky bets.  My buddy has an investment company.  He used MF global as a clearinghouse for some of his accounts.  His accounts are required by law to be segregated from MF globals own funds.  Well they weren't, and now all his money and clients money is frozen/missing right now.  So basically this administration cares more about who's cleaning shit out of my toilets then they do righting the wrongs that got us in this economic meltdown.

Excellent post!
Very good facts.

[tbombz]

If this is true you shouldn't have any problems looking into your business records to provide some details that would allow us to confirm your story.

The name of a new regulation you've had to deal with.

Nope.  The useless paper work I have to do for my business has at least doubled if not tripled in the last 3 years. Every month, I have a new fresh out of college kid at the door telling me out a new govt regulation to comply with.  Really important stuff too.  I have porta pottys on my job sites.  I now have to document the exact time and first and last name of the guy cleaning the toilets.  We use primus labs for our food safety program.  They are considered the top level food safety auditing company.  Well guess what, now the govt has decided to come up with their own program.  Hit you with a fee for more govt workers to come out.  I had to buy a govt supplied wind sock and measure the wind on a job site.  I could go on and on. They even sent a kid that couldn't speak english.  I'm serious, not a lick of english.

The funny thing is, where we need regulation, on wall street, we've got none.  Obama's buddy John Corzine just bankrupted his company using insane leverage with risky bets.  My buddy has an investment company.  He used MF global as a clearinghouse for some of his accounts.  His accounts are required by law to be segregated from MF globals own funds.  Well they weren't, and now all his money and clients money is frozen/missing right now.  So basically this administration cares more about who's cleaning shit out of my toilets then they do righting the wrongs that got us in this economic meltdown.

[aesthetics]

even though the epa is largely corrupt like every other corporate oversight agency, if the epa didn't exist we'd have orange and yellow lakes and rivers like they do in china, our world would be indistinguishable from the inside of willa wonka's chocolate factory because there would be so much pollution coloring everything psychedelic colors