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I am surprised that option d wasn't the first one to post this video, since The Daily Show is his only source of political news and insight.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/22/obamacare-website-programmers_n_4141411.html
booommmmmm
Fuck you every slimeball who voted for this creep
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Bump for Licker and Straw
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Hilarious. ;D
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Bump for Licker and Straw
quit stalking me fag
you're going to get Fairy jealous
It's always funny how you love Stewart when he is ripping on the Dems and Obama (which he does OFTEN) yet try to invalidate him when he is ripping on something you like or agree with
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quit stalking me fag
you're going to get Fairy jealous
It's always funny how you love Stewart when he is ripping on the Dems and Obama (which he does OFTEN) yet try to invalidate him when he is ripping on something you like or agree with
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/22/obamacare-individual-mandate_n_4142708.html
Even the WH starting to see the writing on the wall of this DISASTER
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http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/doctors-in-congress-obamacare-worse-than-you-think
SUCKS!
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I thought many people here despised Jon Stewart and denounced him as a lib?
He is funny most of the time and he's certainly funny in this clip.
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I thought many people here despised Jon Stewart and denounced him as a lib?
He is funny most of the time and he's certainly funny in this clip.
Its only funnier that libs are eating their own now over this disaster after they all pimped what any common sense person knew would be a train wreck
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click on blue portion of link and then "watch now"
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<iframe src='http://player.theplatform.com/p/2E2eJC/EmbeddedOffSite?guid=n_lw_4rewrite_131021' height='500' width='635' scrolling='no' border='no' ></iframe>
click on blue portion of link and then "watch now"
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you didn't watch it did you
you don't realize that you're the crybaby on this site
you come here for your 24/7 cryfest
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you didn't watch it did you
you don't realize that you're the crybaby on this site
you come here for your 24/7 cryfest
EVERYONE from ezra klwin, slate, wapo, ect who shilled for 95%erCare and on down now admit this thing SUCKS!
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EVERYONE from ezra klwin, slate, wapo, ect who shilled for 95%erCare and on down now admit this thing SUCKS!
false but then since when did facts ever matter to you
dude - can't you give the crying a rest for a day or two
don't you ever run out of tears and just need to take a break
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false but then since when did facts ever matter to you
dude - can't you give the crying a rest for a day or two
don't you ever run out of tears and just need to take a break
LOL - you are in sheer denial and delusional state of mind.
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LOL - you are in sheer denial and delusional state of mind.
there is no denying that you're an insufferable crybaby
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there is no denying that you're an insufferable crybaby
LOL - EVERYONE other than the ghetto drug addicted sludge machine in office you worship is admitting this is a complete mess
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EVERYONE from ezra klwin, slate, wapo, ect who shilled for 95%erCare and on down now admit this thing SUCKS!
It hasn't even gone into full effect. Only a complete moron would consider it a failure from the website issues. It's fucked up obviously, do you think Obama is a programmer/coder? Everything that happens is Obama's fault, maybe that's why you seem to think he blames everyone else, because in your eyes he is in control of everything.
I also don't know why you want it to fail so bad, kind unpatriotic of you no? With the absolute paucity of alternate ideas, it is the best option. Single payer won't get through imo.
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It hasn't even gone into full effect. Only a complete moron would consider it a failure from the website issues. It's fucked up obviously, do you think Obama is a programmer/coder? Everything that happens is Obama's fault, maybe that's why you seem to think he blames everyone else, because in your eyes he is in control of everything.
I also don't know why you want it to fail so bad, kind unpatriotic of you no? With the absolute paucity of alternate ideas, it is the best option. Single payer won't get through imo.
no one on this board hates this country and the democratic process more than 333
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no one on this board hates this country and the democratic process more than 333
LOL - you ghetto worshipping skells would go to the plank into shark infested waters if ghettobama asked you to. me - I just hope AF1 gets grounded in Kenya and Obama is sold back into slavery where he was born and belongs
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http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/10/21/CNNs-Jake-Tapper-Slams-Not-Transparent-Obama
Boooom
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/10/22/jon-stewarts-scathing-obamacare-critique-is-as-ruthlessly-honest-as-it-is-funny
Boom
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Wife: What are you laughing at?
Me: A Jon Stewart rag on Obamacare.
Wife: Jon Stewart...you? Are you OK?
ME: Yes.
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Even MSNBC is calling out Obama for his lies at this point.
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Stewart once again proves he is unbiased.
Will all you FOX wievers get your news from Stewart from now on?
You will all be better informed and the debates here will be more interesting.
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Q: Is Jon Stewart a credible source of information?
A: That's a tricky one... He's very astute and accurate when he points out the bullshit in everything Obama does. But then he attacks FOX news with some completely unfounded nonsense that totally isn't based in fact or reality.
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Q: Is Jon Stewart a credible source of information?
A: That's a tricky one... He's very astute and accurate when he points out the bullshit in everything Obama does. But then he attacks FOX news with some completely unfounded nonsense that totally isn't based in fact or reality.
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Exactly!!
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Q: Is Jon Stewart a credible source of information?
A: That's a tricky one... He's very astute and accurate when he points out the bullshit in everything Obama does. But then he attacks FOX news with some completely unfounded nonsense that totally isn't based in fact or reality.
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Of course not. He's a comedian. And like many comedians, sometimes he's funny, sometimes he's not. He's not a serious political commentator.
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Of course not. He's a comedian. And like many comedians, sometimes he's funny, sometimes he's not. He's not a serious political commentator.
But he is consistent. He consistently tears a new a-hole for both the left and the right. He embarasses CNN, FOX, and MSNBC all the time. He shits on palin, obama, biden, romney, and everyone else.
Nobody can accuse stewart of being part of "the left" as he roasts obama on a regular basis, with things like this. I love it how fox claims to be fair & balanced, because they balance things out by taking the far-right position. Then anyone who bashes BOTH sides, like stewart, is far-left. If you diss the right 1% of the time, BOOM, you're part of the liberal lie machine. No surprise a group with this logic can't get their shit together and pick a candidate that can win.
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But he is consistent. He consistently tears a new a-hole for both the left and the right. He embarasses CNN, FOX, and MSNBC all the time. He shits on palin, obama, biden, romney, and everyone else.
Nobody can accuse stewart of being part of "the left" as he roasts obama on a regular basis, with things like this. I love it how fox claims to be fair & balanced, because they balance things out by taking the far-right position. Then anyone who bashes BOTH sides, like stewart, is far-left. If you diss the right 1% of the time, BOOM, you're part of the liberal lie machine. No surprise a group with this logic can't get their shit together and pick a candidate that can win.
Stewart shilled for obamacare like the rest of liberal dolts and now is embarrassed by how incompetent and delusional the asshole he voted for 2x over has put it together.
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But he is consistent. He consistently tears a new a-hole for both the left and the right. He embarasses CNN, FOX, and MSNBC all the time. He shits on palin, obama, biden, romney, and everyone else.
Nobody can accuse stewart of being part of "the left" as he roasts obama on a regular basis, with things like this. I love it how fox claims to be fair & balanced, because they balance things out by taking the far-right position. Then anyone who bashes BOTH sides, like stewart, is far-left. If you diss the right 1% of the time, BOOM, you're part of the liberal lie machine. No surprise a group with this logic can't get their shit together and pick a candidate that can win.
This is sort of all over the place. Soul Crusher posted a clip of Stewart poking fun at the Obamacare rollout. Maybe I overlooked it, but I didn't see anyone touting him as a serious political commentator in this thread. And I don't really care if he is consistent. The point is he's a comedian. We don't rely on comedians for serious political commentary. Isn't his show on Comedy Central or something like that? Nobody should be relying on Comedy Central for serious political commentary.
Regarding Fox News, they are in fact fair and balanced. Their hard news shows don't take "the far-right position." They report the news. They also bring on Democrats and Republicans all the time. The opinion shows are obviously conservative, but even they have liberals on their shows all the time.
And to call Fox News "they" as if they are the network that chooses the Republican party nominee really makes no sense. They (the hard news shows) report, the voters decide.
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The point is he's a comedian. We don't rely on comedians for serious political commentary.
I dunno... George Carlin gave us some very brilliant political commentary... Can we list five "political commentators" that had a more profound & lasting impact upon society's perception of politics over the last half-century, than Carlin?
I don't think anyone will be looking back in 50 years at the brilliant thoughts of Toure or Megyn Kelly... but the words of Carlin will still be ringing true for many.
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I dunno... George Carlin gave us some very brilliant political commentary... Can we list five "political commentators" that had a more profound & lasting impact upon society's perception of politics over the last half-century, than Carlin?
I don't think anyone will be looking back in 50 years at the brilliant thoughts of Toure or Megyn Kelly... but the words of Carlin will still be ringing true for many.
I have no idea nor do I care whether political commenters were more profound than George Carlin. I rely on comedians to make me laugh. I don't depend on them for insightful political commentary.
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Of course not. He's a comedian. And like many comedians, sometimes he's funny, sometimes he's not. He's not a serious political commentator.
His "reporting" has proven time and again to be more unbiased than most and much more so than FOX and MSNBC (that is totally useless for news value).
On that account alone it is way more serious as you put it and you get a good laugh as well.
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I have no idea nor do I care whether political commenters were more profound than George Carlin. I rely on comedians to make me laugh. I don't depend on them for insightful political commentary.
YOU don't rely on comedians for political commentary. You watch news or listen to talk radio or read websites on the matter. I do too.
Most people don't partake in these boring things like we do. WAY more people listen to Chris Rock or Katt Williams or Carlin, than glue themselves to Brit Hume each night. And yes, the political spoutings of these comedians have a great effect upon society, and as we see in the case of carlin, are still referenced and discussed and shared 30+ years later.
I'm talking macro, as a society, not micro as in us on getbig political board.
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacare-mandate-may-be-delayed-2013-10-23?link=MW_home_latest_news
:D
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YOU don't rely on comedians for political commentary. You watch news or listen to talk radio or read websites on the matter. I do too.
Most people don't partake in these boring things like we do. WAY more people listen to Chris Rock or Katt Williams or Carlin, than glue themselves to Brit Hume each night. And yes, the political spoutings of these comedians have a great effect upon society, and as we see in the case of carlin, are still referenced and discussed and shared 30+ years later.
I'm talking macro, as a society, not micro as in us on getbig political board.
Most people who follow politics get their information from TV, the internet, and/or papers and magazines. They don't get their information from Stewart, Chris Rock, or any other comedian.
And no, the political spoutings of standup comics do not have a great effect on society in the political sense. They make people laugh (if they are funny). They don't affect elections and they have zero impact on public policy.
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Most people who follow politics get their information from TV, the internet, and/or papers and magazines. They don't get their information from Stewart, Chris Rock, or any other comedian.
And no, the political spoutings of standup comics do not have a great effect on society in the political sense. They make people laugh (if they are funny). They don't affect elections and they have zero impact on public policy.
THAT is the key there - most people aren't glued to politics like we are. And most people that ARE glued to politics already know now who they're voting for in 2016. You don't follow politics 1-2 hours a day because you don't identify with policies of one party or another.
The SWING voters are those american idol watching, low info voters that choose the president based upon who is hipper, who doesn't mistreat his dog, who hasn't done cocaine, etc. And YES, for that middle 10% of the population, there's a darn good chance they watch more Jon Stewart than Bill OReilly.
So yeah - I think this discussion has evolved to a point where we've shown comedians DO have a big effect on elections. Swing voters decide in the weeks before an election who they'll vote for. They don't watch GOp debates, they don't know about benghazi. They watch tosh.0 on comedy central then learn their news from jon stewart.
BB, sorry to tell you this, but you're among educated people that understand politics. You are smarter than the avg american. Whether you agree with people here, or think they're idiots, they're still way better informed than the average swing voters. They're not the brightest, but they do decide elections. They voted Reagan, clinton, Bush and obama. They'll pick the next prez too! it sure won't be Chris matthews or Mark Levin converting those swing voters - it'll be colbert and stewart.
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THAT is the key there - most people aren't glued to politics like we are. And most people that ARE glued to politics already know now who they're voting for in 2016. You don't follow politics 1-2 hours a day because you don't identify with policies of one party or another.
The SWING voters are those american idol watching, low info voters that choose the president based upon who is hipper, who doesn't mistreat his dog, who hasn't done cocaine, etc. And YES, for that middle 10% of the population, there's a darn good chance they watch more Jon Stewart than Bill OReilly.
So yeah - I think this discussion has evolved to a point where we've shown comedians DO have a big effect on elections. Swing voters decide in the weeks before an election who they'll vote for. They don't watch GOp debates, they don't know about benghazi. They watch tosh.0 on comedy central then learn their news from jon stewart.
BB, sorry to tell you this, but you're among educated people that understand politics. You are smarter than the avg american. Whether you agree with people here, or think they're idiots, they're still way better informed than the average swing voters. They're not the brightest, but they do decide elections. They voted Reagan, clinton, Bush and obama. They'll pick the next prez too! it sure won't be Chris matthews or Mark Levin converting those swing voters - it'll be colbert and stewart.
That's just flat out incorrect. Swing voters are independents. Those are not the people glued to reality TV. The low information folks are the ones who stay home on election day.
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But he is consistent. He consistently tears a new a-hole for both the left and the right. He embarasses CNN, FOX, and MSNBC all the time. He shits on palin, obama, biden, romney, and everyone else.
Nobody can accuse stewart of being part of "the left" as he roasts obama on a regular basis, with things like this. I love it how fox claims to be fair & balanced, because they balance things out by taking the far-right position. Then anyone who bashes BOTH sides, like stewart, is far-left. If you diss the right 1% of the time, BOOM, you're part of the liberal lie machine. No surprise a group with this logic can't get their shit together and pick a candidate that can win.
+1
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This is sort of all over the place. Soul Crusher posted a clip of Stewart poking fun at the Obamacare rollout. Maybe I overlooked it, but I didn't see anyone touting him as a serious political commentator in this thread. And I don't really care if he is consistent. The point is he's a comedian. We don't rely on comedians for serious political commentary. Isn't his show on Comedy Central or something like that? Nobody should be relying on Comedy Central for serious political commentary.
No but in a world where stations like FOX lie to get an agenda a cross makes it the best solution.
Regarding Fox News, they are in fact fair and balanced.
This line here proves you are dumb as rocks. You should resign as a Mod seriously WTF ??? Dont ever talk in a political discussion again
Their hard news shows don't take "the far-right position." They report the news. They also bring on Democrats and Republicans all the time. The opinion shows are obviously conservative, but even they have liberals on their shows all the time.
And to call Fox News "they" as if they are the network that chooses the Republican party nominee really makes no sense. They (the hard news shows) report, the voters decide.
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Stewart once again proves he is unbiased.
Will all you FOX wievers get your news from Stewart from now on?
You will all be better informed and the debates here will be more interesting.
I dunno... I wouldn't exactly call Jon Stewart "unbiased". IMO, he as completely biased.
He's also extremely clever & quick witted, ...and like ANY late-night comedian, he's not about to pass up an opportunity to deliver comedy gold! Screw ups like the launch of the Obamacare website are a comdeian's wet dream... rife with plenty of material. He's not about to let Leno, Conan, Fallon, or anyone else ride this gravy-train without him. ;D
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I dunno... I wouldn't exactly call Jon Stewart "unbiased". IMO, he as completely biased.
He's also extremely clever & quick witted, ...and like ANY late-night comedian, he's not about to pass up an opportunity to deliver comedy gold! Screw ups like the launch of the Obamacare website are a comdeian's wet dream... rife with plenty of material. He's not about to let Leno, Conan, Fallon, or anyone else ride this gravy-train without him. ;D
Truth ;D but he presents the news as they are he doesnt make them up and lie like FOX do.
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Even MSNBC is calling out Obama for his lies at this point.
MSNBC beats FOX news in the integrity department.
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This is sort of all over the place. Soul Crusher posted a clip of Stewart poking fun at the Obamacare rollout. Maybe I overlooked it, but I didn't see anyone touting him as a serious political commentator in this thread. And I don't really care if he is consistent. The point is he's a comedian. We don't rely on comedians for serious political commentary. Isn't his show on Comedy Central or something like that? Nobody should be relying on Comedy Central for serious political commentary.
Regarding Fox News, they are in fact fair and balanced. Their hard news shows don't take "the far-right position." They report the news. They also bring on Democrats and Republicans all the time. The opinion shows are obviously conservative, but even they have liberals on their shows all the time.
And to call Fox News "they" as if they are the network that chooses the Republican party nominee really makes no sense. They (the hard news shows) report, the voters decide.
It's like saying Hitler has a jew servant and thus was fair and balanced towards them.
They are a far right, or right leaning network, they have been found to be the biggest source of misinformation of all the news stations. Not one of the anchors is left leaning that I have seen.
Please don't suggest Fox is fair and balanced, when in fact the opposite has been proven to be true. You really take comfort in your alternate reality.
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http://frontpagemag.com/2013/michellemalkin/obamacares-electronic-medical-records-wreck/#.Umk_rNBTDwI.facebook
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Have you spent extensive time watching these stations? Where does your opinion come from? I used to watch msnbc constantly, then cnn, and fox.
Based on that I can honestly say msnbc is the most biased of all of them, by quite a good margin.I mean they now have AL SHARPTON with his own show...what more needs be said??
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That's just flat out incorrect. Swing voters are independents. Those are not the people glued to reality TV. The low information folks are the ones who stay home on election day.
Swing voters often don't decide until the week/month of the election, who they will vote for.
yes, that's VERY much low info voters. If a person listens to 2 national debates and says "You know, I still can't decide if socialized govt with a marxist flavor is right for me, what do you think honey?", then YES, this person is a low-grade individual, dumb as a box of rocks. Stats show the average independent voter is poor, not a college graduate. Yes, low-info voters all the way.
So yes, to clarify... watch SNL (yes, comedians!), speak on this... (:40 seconds)
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That's just flat out incorrect. Swing voters are independents. Those are not the people glued to reality TV. The low information folks are the ones who stay home on election day.
The composite for a prototypical undecided voter is:
Female
Single
White
Employed
18-to-29 years old
Didn't graduate from college
Low income
Union household
Identifies as Protestant but doesn't go to church
Skipped the debate.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/undecided-voters-election-2012-10#ixzz2ieq5u5Wk
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Have you spent extensive time watching these stations? Where does your opinion come from? I used to watch msnbc constantly, then cnn, and fox.
Based on that I can honestly say msnbc is the most biased of all of them, by quite a good margin.I mean they now have AL SHARPTON with his own show...what more needs be said??
MSNBC is right after FOX.
The reason i say this is look at the debates Obama vs Romney and Biden vs Ryan.
In the first debate Obama got hammered MSNBC hammered Obama.
The opposite with Romney and FOX never happened.
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I am surprised that option d wasn't the first one to post this video, since The Daily Show is his only source of political news and insight.
Why am I on your mind chief...i havent been on in like 2-3 months...
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Why am I on your mind chief...i havent been on in like 2-3 months...
You must've posted, what, 89528958292859 jon stewart videos on this site. Hard to forget such zeal.
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It's like saying Hitler has a jew servant and thus was fair and balanced towards them.
They are a far right, or right leaning network, they have been found to be the biggest source of misinformation of all the news stations. Not one of the anchors is left leaning that I have seen.
Please don't suggest Fox is fair and balanced, when in fact the opposite has been proven to be true. You really take comfort in your alternate reality.
Whatever you say. I watch portions of Fox and CNN almost every day. I stand by what I said.
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The composite for a prototypical undecided voter is:
Female
Single
White
Employed
18-to-29 years old
Didn't graduate from college
Low income
Union household
Identifies as Protestant but doesn't go to church
Skipped the debate.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/undecided-voters-election-2012-10#ixzz2ieq5u5Wk
And this establishes what? Undecided voters are not necessarily the independents who decide presidential elections. I don't even have to look at voter demographics to know 18-29 year olds don't decide presidential elections.
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Whatever you say. I watch portions of Fox and CNN almost every day. I stand by what I said.
In that case you are just stupid.
Even the people at FOX laughs at you.
Your a sad human being BB you have no business discussing politics with grown men.
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And this establishes what? Undecided voters are not necessarily the independents who decide presidential elections. I don't even have to look at voter demographics to know 18-29 year olds don't decide presidential elections.
Undecided voters are defined as the swing voters that decide elections:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_vote
They chose reagan, clinton, bush, obama, and they'll probably choose Cruz or Hilary or Perry in 2016.
Whoever gets them - and motivates them - wins. Colleges didn't have obama fever in 2012, but tea party didn't have romney fever, so that was kinda wash in 2012. Obama won because of entitlements... and that's gonna be a built in 3 point advantage for dems going fwd, unfortunately.
Unless the swing voters get Cruz Fever in 2016, he can't win it. I don't see Hilary enthusiasm being all that high, but it'll be there a bit.
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In that case you are just stupid.
Even the people at FOX laughs at you.
Your a sad human being BB you have no business discussing politics with grown men.
Yawn. ::)
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Undecided voters are defined as the swing voters that decide elections:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_vote
They chose reagan, clinton, bush, obama, and they'll probably choose Cruz or Hilary or Perry in 2016.
Whoever gets them - and motivates them - wins. Colleges didn't have obama fever in 2012, but tea party didn't have romney fever, so that was kinda wash in 2012. Obama won because of entitlements... and that's gonna be a built in 3 point advantage for dems going fwd, unfortunately.
Unless the swing voters get Cruz Fever in 2016, he can't win it. I don't see Hilary enthusiasm being all that high, but it'll be there a bit.
You're all over the place. So now you give me a wiki link that doesn't support your contention that the demographics of undecided voters are largely young and uneducated people?
What is the demographic of independent voters who actually decide presidential elections?
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Truth ;D but he presents the news as they are he doesnt make them up and lie like FOX do.
Agreed. :)
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I have no idea nor do I care whether political commenters were more profound than George Carlin. I rely on comedians to make me laugh. I don't depend on them for insightful political commentary.
IMO, this is a nice, honest statement, BB.
You are saying that regardless of the profundity of a political statement made by a comedian, you'd disregard it because of the source. This approach probably works pretty well for you in most areas of your life but not when it comes to debating politics with others since I'm pretty sure it's a good example of that logical fallacy called "poisoning the well".
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/22/obamacare-website-programmers_n_4141411.html
booommmmmm
Fuck you every slimeball who voted for this creep
Seriously, thanks for not using the word, "skell". For variety's sake, can I also request you find an alternative to "boom"? Thanks.
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IMO, this is a nice, honest statement, BB.
You are saying that regardless of the profundity of a political statement made by a comedian, you'd disregard it because of the source. This approach probably works pretty well for you in most areas of your life but not when it comes to debating politics with others since I'm pretty sure it's a good example of that logical fallacy called "poisoning the well".
He rejects everything that comes out of peoples mouth if they are not FOX news host's.
This makes his information very limited and best and most of the time false.
He really has no place discussing politics let alone be a Mod.
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IMO, this is a nice, honest statement, BB.
You are saying that regardless of the profundity of a political statement made by a comedian, you'd disregard it because of the source. This approach probably works pretty well for you in most areas of your life but not when it comes to debating politics with others since I'm pretty sure it's a good example of that logical fallacy called "poisoning the well".
That's not what I said. I said I don't rely on comedians for serious political commentary. That doesn't mean a comedian cannot occasionally say something profound.
Just like I watch movies purely for entertainment, but sometimes I hear something poignant from an actor. Still, I don't rely on fictional movies for serious commentary.
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He rejects everything that comes out of peoples mouth if they are not FOX news host's.
This makes his information very limited and best and most of the time false.
He really has no place discussing politics let alone be a Mod.
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