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Title: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 15, 2008, 03:09:38 PM
Body Building Myths That Must Die!
By Will Brink

Every culture has its myths and bodybuilding is no exception. Like most myths, most are nine parts fantasy and one part truth, though of course, some myths have no truth to them at all. I have spent much of my career attempting to expose myths surrounding bodybuilding and topics that relate to it, such as drugs, nutrition and supplementation etc.

For example, one of my more popular articles that was published “back in the day” in Muscle Media was entitled “Nutritional myths that won’t die” which focused on myths surrounding protein and athletes. Classics such as “athletes don’t need additional protein” and “high protein diets are bad for you” as well as others were covered and debunked.

This article, however, is not about one topic or myth, but random myths that float around and never seem to die. It’s intended to be tongue-in-cheek to be sure, but it’s still a serious attempt to combat various myths that have little or no truth behind them. Some of these myths are generated inside the bodybuilding community and some are generated outside the community, by the general public and or medical community. These are in no particular order, so let’s start with a classic:

Myth #1: “Your muscles will turn to fat the soon as you stop working out - Tissue Alchemy BS”


This is a classic used by those looking for excuses for why they have not started an exercise program and resent those that have. My own mother used to say that to me as a kid when I joined a gym at 14. There is no physiological mechanism by which muscles magically convert to fat when one stops working out for some reason. What happens, however, is that many of the gains in muscle mass will be lost from the lack of stimulation. It’s not exactly earth-shattering news that people who don’t exercise and eat above maintenance calories get fat. So what you have is often a loss of muscle and an increase in body fat due to lack of exercise coupled with excess calories. The next time you see someone who used to be buffed but is now fat, it’s not because his or her muscles some how converted to fat. They are fat for the same reason millions of others are fat: too many calories, not enough activity.

Regardless, what if it were true? That is, is the fear of this mysterious muscles to fat conversion a reason to not start a weight training program? If you stop brushing your teeth, the result is (drum roll) cavities, but that’s not a legitimate reason to never start brushing your teeth! I have gained and lost many pounds of muscle over my life time, and have worked with countless people in all phases of their life, and I have yet to see any muscles convert to fat, this myth of tissue alchemy needs to die now. I have however seen plenty of people who stopped working out and got fat.

Myth #2: "Pros eat 'clean' all year round"


This myth can be blamed squarely on the bodybuilding publications who want the readers to think their heroes eat low fat healthy “clean” foods year round. This has often led to newbie types attempting to get all the calories they require for growth from baked chicken, rice, and vegetables. Of course getting - say - 4000 plus calories (or more) from such foods is virtually impossible. This reality often leaves the newbie confused and depressed because he’s not making any appreciable gains attempting to stuff himself to death with foods that are low in calories. It’s very difficult to get 4000, 5000, or even 6000 calories a day from chicken and rice. Now for the reality: off-season I have sat across the table from many a pro eating cheeseburgers, pizza, and apple pie. I know one pro who used to pull over anytime he saw a Taco Bell. Big people require plenty of calories and calorie-dense foods are the only way to get them. As the late, great Dan Duchaine once said regarding off-season eating for growth: “don’t feel bad you ate a cheeseburger, feel bad you didn’t eat three!”

Now I can’t comment on every pro’s diet as I don’t know them all, and I am sure some of them have cleaner diets then others off-season. However, make no mistake: the articles you read about what pros eat off-season and what they really eat are often two different things.

As sort of an ancillary myth, most pros will carry more body fat than they claim off-season when trying to gain new muscle mass. Telling people they eat at Taco Bell and are above single-digit body fat levels does not sell magazines or supplements, so it pays to perpetuate the myth that they are hard as nails all year (with a few exceptions) and always eat “clean”.

Myth #3: "Bodybuilders are not strong"


Only people who have never stepped into a gym make such stupid statements. Strength varies greatly person to person of course, but some bodybuilders are very strong with 800lb squats and 500lb bench presses not uncommon. I have seen people using weight that had to be seen to be believed: 600lb front squats for reps, incline bench presses with 500lbs for reps, and seated presses with 400lbs for reps, etc. No, not all bodybuilders are nearly that strong, but any bodybuilder worth his salt is still considerably stronger then the average person. Some bodybuilders compete in both power lifting and bodybuilding and often do well in both. Yes, some bodybuilders are not as strong as they look, but some are much stronger then they look, and some are crazy strong.

Myth #4: “Bodybuilders can’t fight”

I’m not going to give much space to this myth other then to say bodybuilders are like everyone else: some are tough SOB's and some are cream puffs with most somewhere in the middle. No different then the general public. I have seen a few of the tough SOB variety in action. Conversely, I was at a gym-sponsored cookout some years ago where this huge bodybuilder decided to hassle this guy half his size. Problem was, the guy happened to be the state kick boxing champion and proceeded to beat the snot out of the bodybuilder in front of a few hundred people. The lesson here is: don’t judge a book by its cover, and don’t get into fights!

Myth #5: "Bodybuilders are all gay"


As with the last myth, this one does not warrant much space. It’s my experience the bodybuilding community is gay as often as the general public. No more, no less, and how much muscle a person has does not seem to affect the rate one way or another. It’s a stupid myth that should be put to rest for good.

Myth #6: "Anyone can look like a pro bodybuilder if they take enough drugs"


If this were true, people in gyms all over the world would look like pro bodybuilders. The major difference between a high level bodybuilder and everyone else is their genetics, the one thing they have no control over. Yes, drug use is a fact of life in bodybuilding and many other sports, and yes, nutrition and training play a role; but if you don’t have the genes for it, all the steroids in the world won’t get you anywhere near to looking like the people you see in the magazines. Unfortunately, every gym has those people using doses of drugs higher than many pros and still look like sh*%. Make no mistake: drugs work and clearly add an advantage to athletes who use them, but the difference between them and you is that they chose the right parents!

Myth #7: "Bodybuilders are all Narcissistic"

Well OK, this one has a ring of truth to it. Truth be known, bodybuilders can be some of the most narcissistic people you will ever meet, but they are not all that way. Some are humble, down-to-Earth people, but let’s be honest, some narcissism is par for the course in bodybuilding. Nuff said there…

Myth #8: “Bodybuilders have small penises and they try to make up for that with big muscles”


How many times have we heard this dumb myth? Clearly, this one is directed at the male bodybuilders. Truth be known, I have not seen that many bodybuilders’ manly muscle missiles, but it’s been my impression they tend to be like every other man in that dept. Some are big, some small, while most are in the middle or “normal.” One caveat, however, is that a big guy with a normal-sized member will look smaller then a skinny guy with a normal sized member. It’s all in the proportions.

Myth #9: "Steroids don’t work"


If you believe that one you are dumber then dirt. No response to this myth required from me! There’s a bunch of steroid-related myths I could list, but this is not a steroid article, so I won’t bother.

Myth #10: “I don’t want to lift weights because I don’t want to get huge”

This one tends to be uttered by women, but I have heard men say it also on occasion. It’s a pitiful excuse for not exercising. As discussed above, very few people have the genetics to achieve even above normal levels of muscle mass, much less get “huge.” 99.9% of you reading this will be lucky to put on some muscle, and even that will take years of hard work. It’s not like anyone ever woke up one day bulging with muscles they didn’t expect. And if you are one of those rare people who put on muscle relatively easily? Lucky you!

Well there you have it; the major myths in bodybuilding (hopefully) debunked. Those were the ones I’ve seen/heard most frequently. If you think I missed one, feel free to let me know and perhaps I can add it to this article at some point. I don’t want to see anyone turned off to the great endeavor that is bodybuilding. Like all sports or life styles, bodybuilding has its dark side. However, bodybuilding can be a very healthy, productive, and fun way of life that pays major dividends, so don’t avoid it ‘cause of myths and disinformation.

See you in the gym!
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: Master Blaster on October 15, 2008, 03:14:17 PM
Myth #8: “Bodybuilders have small penises and they try to make up for that with big muscles”

How many times have we heard this dumb myth? Clearly, this one is directed at the male bodybuilders. Truth be known, I have not seen that many bodybuilders’ manly muscle missiles, but it’s been my impression they tend to be like every other man in that dept. Some are big, some small, while most are in the middle or “normal.” One caveat, however, is that a big guy with a normal-sized member will look smaller then a skinny guy with a normal sized member. It’s all in the proportions.


Jesus Christ on a cross.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 15, 2008, 03:15:32 PM
Myth #8: “Bodybuilders have small penises and they try to make up for that with big muscles”

How many times have we heard this dumb myth? Clearly, this one is directed at the male bodybuilders. Truth be known, I have not seen that many bodybuilders’ manly muscle missiles, but it’s been my impression they tend to be like every other man in that dept. Some are big, some small, while most are in the middle or “normal.” One caveat, however, is that a big guy with a normal-sized member will look smaller then a skinny guy with a normal sized member. It’s all in the proportions.


Jesus Christ on a cross.

Don't bring Christ into this!   :o ;D :o
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on October 15, 2008, 03:23:45 PM
Its funny, with all the crap that bodybuilders get you could write down 20 truths such as:

-90% of IFBB bodybuilders participate in G4P activities, see Tom Prince
-Many Pro's are recreational drug users
-Physiques are all drugs, see Tom Prince
-Most are dumb and liars
-Huge Egos, empty heads
-Apparently the pinnacle of fitness, zero fat yet they look pregnant
-Pros dont eat clean year round because they have drugs to block fat increase
-Pros have small genitals from drugs
-Nasser has a small penis

etc etc
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 15, 2008, 03:34:32 PM
Its funny, with all the crap that bodybuilders get you could write down 20 truths such as:

-Nasser has a small penis


You seen his wee wee?! Dude!  ::)
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: hipolito mejia on October 15, 2008, 03:40:08 PM
Its funny, with all the crap that bodybuilders get you could write down 20 truths such as:

-90% of IFBB bodybuilders participate in G4P activities, see Tom Prince
-Many Pro's are recreational drug users
-Physiques are all drugs, see Tom Prince
-Most are dumb and liars
-Huge Egos, empty heads
-Apparently the pinnacle of fitness, zero fat yet they look pregnant
-Pros dont eat clean year round because they have drugs to block fat increase
-Pros have small genitals from drugs
-Nasser has a small penis

etc etc


LOL
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: boonstack on October 15, 2008, 03:47:26 PM
2 - i have friends that compete and are eating pizza and donuts 3 weeks out. But, they have enough chemicals flowing through them that this is not a problem. I think people severely underestimate how juice/other agents affect your body besides "muscle growth". Its like a superhuman metabolism

8 - penis has nothing to do with it. Testes do. When you inject synthetic test, your body stops producing its own natural juice. This is why when guys come off of super strong cycles they have less nat test level than a 9 yr old girl

10 - i love when ppl say this. under the best possible circumstances (for a natty at least), you MAY put on 3-5 lbs of pure muscle a year. "building muscle" is a huge fucking process and it doesnt happen over night.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: HeyNow on October 15, 2008, 03:54:40 PM
Its funny, with all the crap that bodybuilders get you could write down 20 truths such as:

-90% of IFBB bodybuilders participate in G4P activities, see Tom Prince
-Many Pro's are recreational drug users
-Physiques are all drugs, see Tom Prince
-Most are dumb and liars
-Huge Egos, empty heads
-Apparently the pinnacle of fitness, zero fat yet they look pregnant
-Pros dont eat clean year round because they have drugs to block fat increase
-Pros have small genitals from drugs
-Nasser has a small penis

etc etc

Yet you are fascinated by bodybuilding spending a good amount of your free time posting on a bodybuilding forum. ::)  If it was just drugs we would all be competitors in the Olympia.  Get the chip off your shoulder bro.  You should focus on a different hobby like dungeons and dragons.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: dantelis on October 15, 2008, 03:58:15 PM
Myth #8: “Bodybuilders have small penises and they try to make up for that with big muscles”

...Clearly, this one is directed at the male bodybuilders....

The author likes to state the obvious, huh?

However, I guess if this one was directed at pro women BB's, it wouldn't be a myth, but would be true, since they do have small penises.   ;D
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: boonstack on October 15, 2008, 03:59:12 PM
Yet you are fascinated by bodybuilding spending a good amount of your free time posting on a bodybuilding forum. ::)  If it was just drugs we would all be competitors in the Olympia.  Get the chip off your shoulder bro.  You should focus on a different hobby like dungeons and dragons.

when he says "ALL DRUGS" he is 100% correct. I dont think you can comprehend the reality of what happens to your body when you incorporate anabolic/androgenic steroids into your life. Take a 18 year old gym rat that trains naturally for 6 months to a year, has a great diet, and pretty decent base. Put him on a cycle (i always recommend someone do all the possible research they can before using) - give him 10 weeks, and he will make more progress in that duration of cycle than a "natural" would make in 10 years. (clean diet, proper knowledge of training, juice = freak. end.)
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: HeyNow on October 15, 2008, 04:04:14 PM
Boon, that may be true about the gym rat thing, but most people who do gear still look bad.  I know many competitors that use outrageous amounts of gear yet they still cannot achieve the physique of top NPC or Pro.  Sure it takes hormones, but theres alot more to it than just that.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: QuakerOats on October 15, 2008, 04:06:39 PM
regarding "Myth #3" i'd like to know which bodybuilder he's witnessed doing 500 for reps on barbell inclines and 400 for reps on barbell militaries. ::)
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 15, 2008, 04:11:15 PM
Myth #8: “Bodybuilders have small penises and they try to make up for that with big muscles”

...Clearly, this one is directed at the male bodybuilders....

The author likes to state the obvious, huh?

Yup.

However, I guess if this one was directed at pro women BB's, it wouldn't be a myth, but would be true, since they do have small penises.   ;D

Now that was uncalled for!  ;D
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 15, 2008, 04:16:19 PM
regarding "Myth #3" i'd like to know which bodybuilder he's witnessed doing 500 for reps on barbell inclines and 400 for reps on barbell militaries. ::)

As I have known and or trained with, or worked with, some of the strongest people on the planets, I have seen it. Also seen 650lb front squats for 6 reps, and many other impressive acts. Many of these guys are unknowns, some are semi known. I didn't say it was common (read closely to what I wrote) but I have seen some crazy ass strong dudes in my long experience in this biz.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: QuakerOats on October 15, 2008, 04:18:15 PM
As I have known and or trained with, or worked with, some of the strongest people on the planets, I have seen it. Also seen 650lb front squats for 6 reps, and many other impressive acts. Many of these guys are unknowns, some are semi known. I didn't say it was common (read closely to what I wrote) but I have seen some crazy ass strong dudes in my long experience in this biz.
are you honestly saying that you have seen people do reps with 5 plates per side on barbell inclines and 4 plates per side on militaries, if so, who?
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on October 15, 2008, 04:19:19 PM
regarding "Myth #3" i'd like to know which bodybuilder he's witnessed doing 500 for reps on barbell inclines and 400 for reps on barbell militaries. ::)

I'm betting they aren't top pro's, but very strong top amateurs that aren't well known.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: Master Blaster on October 15, 2008, 04:25:41 PM
are you honestly saying that you have seen people do reps with 5 plates per side on barbell inclines and 4 plates per side on militaries, if so, who?

He could probably make up some names since they are top secret "unkowns" that are secret record holders that know one knows, Like "Einstein Q. Rockafeller" from New Town and "Huhe G. Rex" from Vice City.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: QuakerOats on October 15, 2008, 04:28:09 PM
He could probably make up some names since they are top secret "unkowns" that are secret record holders that know one knows, Like "Einstein Q. Rockafeller" from New Town and "Huhe G. Rex" from Vice City.
hahahhaa, i love how these guys always are in some old hole in the wall gym in the middle of nowhere and their names are so top secret that no one can mention them. ::)
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on October 15, 2008, 04:34:14 PM
hahahhaa, i love how these guys always are in some old hole in the wall gym in the middle of nowhere and their names are so top secret that no one can mention them. ::)

Shut your mouth man. I'll get my sisters friends cousins uncle who knows a guy that used to fight mma to kick your ass. You won't wanna fuck with him. He once knocked out Steven Seagal for giving him a dirty look and then knocked over a bus in a fit of rage.  ;D
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: QuakerOats on October 15, 2008, 04:38:16 PM
Shut your mouth man. I'll get my sisters friends cousins uncle who knows a guy that used to fight mma to kick your ass. You won't wanna fuck with him. He once knocked out Steven Seagal for giving him a dirty look and then knocked over a bus in a fit of rage.  ;D
hahahahahaa, my sister works with a girl who knows aguy who lives down the street from a girl who's husband works with a guy who knows another guy who did some roofing work with a guy who is married to a girl who knows a girl who's husband did some plumbing for a guy who's sister is married to guy who benched 850 for 8 in his garage, was training for the Olympia and World's Strongest Man but had to stop due to a knee/shoulder/pec/elbow/wrist/back/spleen/kidney/neck/hand/foot/ankle injury.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: Master Blaster on October 15, 2008, 04:42:12 PM
hahahahahaa, my sister works with a girl who knows aguy who lives down the street from a girl who's husband works with a guy who knows another guy who did some roofing work with a guy who is married to a girl who knows a girl who's husband did some plumbing for a guy who's sister is married to guy who benched 850 for 8 in his garage, was training for the Olympia and World's Strongest Man but had to stop due to a knee/shoulder/pec/elbow/wrist/back/spleen/kidney/neck/hand/foot/ankle injury.

I know that guy! I showed up to take some pics but my camera was broken and then it got stolen after I lost it.  ;D
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 15, 2008, 04:47:40 PM
hahahhaa, i love how these guys always are in some old hole in the wall gym in the middle of nowhere and their names are so top secret that no one can mention them. ::)

Don't be a moron. Who said anything about top secret? I remember watching Ted Arcidi doing weight that boggled the mind in a tiny hole in the wall gym in Nashua NH. There was a guy I knew well named John Caldorelli. His nick name was the "missing link." He did seated behid the neck pressed with 315 for reps, then went to 405 for a solid set. He benched 600 raw and was over 300lbs hard. He lives in FL now.MMI did a spread on him back in the day. There was a guy named Lenny Dasneves here in MA in New Bedford I knew well who moved weights that would make anyone at Golds venice envy. If there are any old school NH or MA guys here, those names should ring a bell.  My old training partner Andre Wood, held all the NH records in the 165lb class, competed in BBing, and used weights in the gym most pros would envy. Watched Vic Richards do tricep pushdowns with an entire lat pull down stack in Golds San Diego many years, ago, and so on. Vic is crazy strong. Watched Eddie Robinson move some weights that boggled the mind also.

Now, if you have not been where I have been and seen what I have seen, don't try and pretend you have, but don't act like a dick 'cause I have. I will say, you don't see those kinda of guys in the gyms much anymore for various reasons, but there are gyms with uknown guys all over the place using weights that would freak most people out.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: QuakerOats on October 15, 2008, 04:50:43 PM
Don't be a moron. Who said anything about top secret? I remember watching Ted Arcidi doing weight that boggled the mind in a tiny hole in the wall gym in Nashua NH. There was a guy I knew well named John Caldorelli. His nick name was the "missing link." He did seated behid the neck pressed with 315 for reps, then went to 405 for a solid set. He benched 600 raw and was over 300lbs hard. He lives in FL now.MMI did a spread on him back in the day. There was a guy named Lenny Dasneves here in MA in New Bedford I knew well who moved weights that would make anyone at Golds venice envy. If there are any old school NH or MA guys here, those names should ring a bell.  My old training partner Andre Wood, held all the NH records in the 165lb class, competed in BBing, and used weights in the gym most pros would envy. Watched Vic Richards do tricep pushdowns with an entire lat pull down stack in Golds San Diego many years, ago, and so on. Vic is crazy strong. Watched Eddie Robinson move some weights that boggled the mind also.

Now, if you have not been where I have been and seen what I have seen, don't try and pretend you have, but don't act like a dick 'cause I have. I will say, you don't see those kinda of guys in the gyms much anymore for various reasons, but there are gyms with uknown guys all over the place using weights that would freak most people out.
if there was honestly someone doing 405 pound behind the necks surely there would be some footage of it, no one is stupid enough to believe that type of weight on PBN isn't beyond world class, Arcidi i might believe could maybe get a single with it but certainly no one is pushing reps with that at least not to the bottom of the ear. ::)
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: Canadian_Muscle on October 15, 2008, 04:51:14 PM
hahahahahaa, my sister works with a girl who knows aguy who lives down the street from a girl who's husband works with a guy who knows another guy who did some roofing work with a guy who is married to a girl who knows a girl who's husband did some plumbing for a guy who's sister is married to guy who benched 850 for 8 in his garage, was training for the Olympia and World's Strongest Man but had to stop due to a knee/shoulder/pec/elbow/wrist/back/spleen/kidney/neck/hand/foot/ankle injury.

hahahah... I love this shit. Everybody knows someone that holds world records, has countless knockouts, bangs numerous pornstars, and has more money than Bill Gates. You gotta love the ones that always talk about what they USED to do... "Yeah, back in high school I benched about 500lbs on a daily basis... I coulda done more weight but I was into the high rep stuff so i'd do 500lbs for about 15 or 20 perfect reps... I mostly trained for tone. But I knew a guy that was real strong and did like 800lbs for 5 reps... he was pretty strong for his size."
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: chocolate fizz on October 15, 2008, 04:57:47 PM
Don't be a moron. Who said anything about top secret? I remember watching Ted Arcidi doing weight that boggled the mind in a tiny hole in the wall gym in Nashua NH. There was a guy I knew well named John Caldorelli. His nick name was the "missing link." He did seated behid the neck pressed with 315 for reps, then went to 405 for a solid set. He benched 600 raw and was over 300lbs hard. He lives in FL now.MMI did a spread on him back in the day. There was a guy named Lenny Dasneves here in MA in New Bedford I knew well who moved weights that would make anyone at Golds venice envy. If there are any old school NH or MA guys here, those names should ring a bell.  My old training partner Andre Wood, held all the NH records in the 165lb class, competed in BBing, and used weigh...snip

Fuck the PBN, you need to qualify the 650lb x 6 rep front squat.

Shit, there is NO FUCKING WAY you would forget that guy.

Sounds like hyperbole to me, a momentary bit of indulgence on your part, which is fine, but you will look fucking dumb if you fail to clarify the matter.

I'm calling bullshit until we get specifics.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: chocolate fizz on October 15, 2008, 05:00:58 PM
BTW, I used to read your column in MMI way back in the mid 90's, when I was but a young toolbag.

Never did I [back then] think I would ever find myself in a position to tell you - Will Brink - that I am enjoying Polish slaska with chilled water, whilst wanking off to trannies and fat girls on xtube.

God bless the internet.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: QuakerOats on October 15, 2008, 05:02:33 PM
BTW, I used to read your column in MMI way back in the mid 90's, when I was but a young toolbag.

Never did I [back then] think I would ever find myself in a position to tell you - Will Brink - that I am enjoying Polish slaska with chilled water, whilst wanking off to trannies and fat girls on xtube.

God bless the internet.
;D
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: chocolate fizz on October 15, 2008, 05:16:31 PM
Has Dave done Will Brink?

Cant believe this one is travelling under the radar LOL
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 15, 2008, 05:37:53 PM
Fuck the PBN, you need to qualify the 650lb x 6 rep front squat.

Shit, there is NO FUCKING WAY you would forget that guy.

I didn't. He's listed above. Lenny was the guy. Now, onto other more important things.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: WillGrant on October 15, 2008, 10:51:49 PM
I didn't. He's listed above. Lenny was the guy. Now, onto other more important things.
Will , Are Robbert Kennedy and Johnny Fittness homos like Weider?
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: HTexan on October 15, 2008, 10:53:09 PM
bbers can't wipe their asses. ;D
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: jr on October 15, 2008, 11:53:24 PM
Gayer than manly muscle missiles.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: flagadajones on October 15, 2008, 11:59:33 PM
what about short skinny fat bald men in their 40s with a small dick and wearing nerdy glasses ?

Are they really as gay as they look ? or is this just a myth ?
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 18, 2008, 04:15:52 PM
what about short skinny fat bald men in their 40s with a small dick and wearing nerdy glasses ?

Are they really as gay as they look ? or is this just a myth ?

I know being a cowardly anonymous troll is a time honored profession here on GB, but couldn't you at least come up with something more original? It's easy to throw insults when hiding behind comps. Care to post a pic of your 250lb ripped self? Of course this short skinny fat bald guy in his 40s with a small dick and wearing nerdy glasses has forgotten more in a day about all things bbing then you will ever know in your life time, so where's that leave you? Now at no time will I ever win the O by any means, but I have carried some good LBM in my 20s:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b374/willbrink/BackInTheDay.jpg)

In my early 40s now (and don't worry, you will be in your 40s also, or dead, but those are your only 2 choices) I am a tad under 200lbs and neither skinny, fat, or bald. For example, at a recent carbine course I took:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b374/willbrink/DSC01072.jpg)

Let's not beat around the bush here, I aint pretty, I aint huge, and I aint tall, but I do Ok for the the genetics I was given and the health set backs I have had, and  I don't hide behind a comp when talking about other people's physiques.

Carry on anonymous troll dude.  ;D

Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: wavelength on October 18, 2008, 04:20:49 PM
The first pic is impressive.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: Master Blaster on October 18, 2008, 04:30:39 PM
You got some big ass gun boats, thats for sure.

BTW, whats wrong with your neck?

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b374/willbrink/DSC01072.jpg)
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: chocolate fizz on October 18, 2008, 04:36:10 PM
Will, was that first pic done after the cycle which was [itself] done after the girl fucked off with the drug dealer cunt?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=241168.0
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 18, 2008, 04:57:24 PM
You got some big ass gun boats, thats for sure.

BTW, whats wrong with your neck?

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b374/willbrink/DSC01072.jpg)

I had some nerves cut in my neck after the removal of a lymph node. As you can see from the early pic, I had a good sized neck at one time, but it didn't respond well to training after that. Life happens.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 18, 2008, 04:58:38 PM
Will, was that first pic done after the cycle which was [itself] done after the girl fucked off with the drug dealer cunt?

Was that supposed to make any sense? Thanx for the link.  ;)
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: chocolate fizz on October 18, 2008, 05:03:23 PM
Was that supposed to make any sense? Thanx for the link.  ;)


Will, I recall you once saying that a cycle of gear was a great way for a guy to [in effect] blow off a recent woe (relationship or otherwise etc)

You then went on to use your own example wherein some girlfriend of yours had fucked off with a drug dealer.

I just figured this would have been a few years ago, hence asking if the first picture was taken after the episode wherein said ex girfriend had fucked off with the Pablo Escobar character?

Just askin..
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 18, 2008, 05:06:09 PM
Will, I recall you once saying that a cycle of gear was a great way for a guy to [in effect] blow off a recent woe (relationship or otherwise etc)

You then went on to use your own example wherein some girlfriend of yours had fucked off with a drug dealer.

I just figured this would have been a few years ago, hence asking if the first picture was taken after the episode wherein said ex girfriend had fucked off with the Pablo Escobar character?

Just askin..

LOL, I got it now. Was that not an MFW post waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back? Good memory!
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: flagadajones on October 18, 2008, 05:09:03 PM
not only did you prove everything i said was right on target about your baldness, skinny fat small body, but you also proved furthermore that you have a small dick complex posting this ridiculous pic of yourself carrying an assaultrifle. Excuse me, are we suposed to be impressed?
Epic need for attention for someone s who in his 40's. Midlife crisis maybe ?

JFYI in case you didnt know, posting a picture of yourself with a gun only makes people think you re an insecure e-warrior with a small dick, ask robert ziruolo .


on a side note, the more you take this board seriously the more people will psychollogically assault you.

See? no need of a weapon to make people melt, just tell the truth about their insecurities.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: stormshadow on October 18, 2008, 05:14:59 PM
Its funny, with all the crap that bodybuilders get you could write down 20 truths such as:

-90% of IFBB bodybuilders participate in G4P activities, see Tom Prince
-Many Pro's are recreational drug users
-Physiques are all drugs, see Tom Prince
-Most are dumb and liars
-Huge Egos, empty heads
-Apparently the pinnacle of fitness, zero fat yet they look pregnant
-Pros dont eat clean year round because they have drugs to block fat increase
-Pros have small genitals from drugs
-Nasser has a small penis

etc etc

Nasser is Wizard of Truth, and 10x Uncrowned Mr. Olympia
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: chocolate fizz on October 18, 2008, 05:30:21 PM
not only did you prove everything i said was right on target about your baldness, skinny fat small body, but you also proved furthermore that you have a small dick complex posting this ridiculous pic of yourself carrying an assaultrifle. Excuse me, are we suposed to be impressed?
Epic need for attention for someone s who in his 40's. Midlife crisis maybe ?

JFYI in case you didnt know, posting a picture of yourself with a gun only makes people think you re an insecure e-warrior with a small dick, ask robert ziruolo .


on a side note, the more you take this board seriously the more people will psychollogically assault you.

See? no need of a weapon to make people melt, just tell the truth about their insecurities.

In lieu of your above post - and the dazzling insight therein - I'm guessing you are not familiar with mfw from 10-15 years previous then?
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: flagadajones on October 18, 2008, 05:39:42 PM
haha he s almost as tall as his m16 or car15 or whatever :D
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 18, 2008, 07:12:16 PM
I know being a cowardly anonymous troll is a time honored profession here on GB, but couldn't you at least come up with something more original? It's easy to throw insults when hiding behind comps. Care to post a pic of your 250lb ripped self? Of course this short skinny fat bald guy in his 40s with a small dick and wearing nerdy glasses has forgotten more in a day about all things bbing then you will ever know in your life time, so where's that leave you? Now at no time will I ever win the O by any means, but I have carried some good LBM in my 20s:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b374/willbrink/BackInTheDay.jpg)

In my early 40s now (and don't worry, you will be in your 40s also, or dead, but those are your only 2 choices) I am a tad under 200lbs and neither skinny, fat, or bald. For example, at a recent carbine course I took:

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b374/willbrink/DSC01072.jpg)

Let's not beat around the bush here, I aint pretty, I aint huge, and I aint tall, but I do Ok for the the genetics I was given and the health set backs I have had, and  I don't hide behind a comp when talking about other people's physiques.

Carry on anonymous troll dude.  ;D


Will, I have just about every book you ever wrote and its the best info out there compared to some other jackass writers like Lee Harvey for starters ....but seriously bro, you gotta get another hairstyle....makes you head look too big.  Go back to the one you had in the 90's minus the mullet.

Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: The Coach on October 18, 2008, 10:41:26 PM
Body Building Myths That Must Die!
By Will Brink

Every culture has its myths and bodybuilding is no exception. Like most myths, most are nine parts fantasy and one part truth, though of course, some myths have no truth to them at all. I have spent much of my career attempting to expose myths surrounding bodybuilding and topics that relate to it, such as drugs, nutrition and supplementation etc.

For example, one of my more popular articles that was published “back in the day” in Muscle Media was entitled “Nutritional myths that won’t die” which focused on myths surrounding protein and athletes. Classics such as “athletes don’t need additional protein” and “high protein diets are bad for you” as well as others were covered and debunked.

This article, however, is not about one topic or myth, but random myths that float around and never seem to die. It’s intended to be tongue-in-cheek to be sure, but it’s still a serious attempt to combat various myths that have little or no truth behind them. Some of these myths are generated inside the bodybuilding community and some are generated outside the community, by the general public and or medical community. These are in no particular order, so let’s start with a classic:

Myth #1: “Your muscles will turn to fat the soon as you stop working out - Tissue Alchemy BS”


This is a classic used by those looking for excuses for why they have not started an exercise program and resent those that have. My own mother used to say that to me as a kid when I joined a gym at 14. There is no physiological mechanism by which muscles magically convert to fat when one stops working out for some reason. What happens, however, is that many of the gains in muscle mass will be lost from the lack of stimulation. It’s not exactly earth-shattering news that people who don’t exercise and eat above maintenance calories get fat. So what you have is often a loss of muscle and an increase in body fat due to lack of exercise coupled with excess calories. The next time you see someone who used to be buffed but is now fat, it’s not because his or her muscles some how converted to fat. They are fat for the same reason millions of others are fat: too many calories, not enough activity.

Regardless, what if it were true? That is, is the fear of this mysterious muscles to fat conversion a reason to not start a weight training program? If you stop brushing your teeth, the result is (drum roll) cavities, but that’s not a legitimate reason to never start brushing your teeth! I have gained and lost many pounds of muscle over my life time, and have worked with countless people in all phases of their life, and I have yet to see any muscles convert to fat, this myth of tissue alchemy needs to die now. I have however seen plenty of people who stopped working out and got fat.

Myth #2: "Pros eat 'clean' all year round"


This myth can be blamed squarely on the bodybuilding publications who want the readers to think their heroes eat low fat healthy “clean” foods year round. This has often led to newbie types attempting to get all the calories they require for growth from baked chicken, rice, and vegetables. Of course getting - say - 4000 plus calories (or more) from such foods is virtually impossible. This reality often leaves the newbie confused and depressed because he’s not making any appreciable gains attempting to stuff himself to death with foods that are low in calories. It’s very difficult to get 4000, 5000, or even 6000 calories a day from chicken and rice. Now for the reality: off-season I have sat across the table from many a pro eating cheeseburgers, pizza, and apple pie. I know one pro who used to pull over anytime he saw a Taco Bell. Big people require plenty of calories and calorie-dense foods are the only way to get them. As the late, great Dan Duchaine once said regarding off-season eating for growth: “don’t feel bad you ate a cheeseburger, feel bad you didn’t eat three!”

Now I can’t comment on every pro’s diet as I don’t know them all, and I am sure some of them have cleaner diets then others off-season. However, make no mistake: the articles you read about what pros eat off-season and what they really eat are often two different things.

As sort of an ancillary myth, most pros will carry more body fat than they claim off-season when trying to gain new muscle mass. Telling people they eat at Taco Bell and are above single-digit body fat levels does not sell magazines or supplements, so it pays to perpetuate the myth that they are hard as nails all year (with a few exceptions) and always eat “clean”.

Myth #3: "Bodybuilders are not strong"


Only people who have never stepped into a gym make such stupid statements. Strength varies greatly person to person of course, but some bodybuilders are very strong with 800lb squats and 500lb bench presses not uncommon. I have seen people using weight that had to be seen to be believed: 600lb front squats for reps, incline bench presses with 500lbs for reps, and seated presses with 400lbs for reps, etc. No, not all bodybuilders are nearly that strong, but any bodybuilder worth his salt is still considerably stronger then the average person. Some bodybuilders compete in both power lifting and bodybuilding and often do well in both. Yes, some bodybuilders are not as strong as they look, but some are much stronger then they look, and some are crazy strong.

Myth #4: “Bodybuilders can’t fight”

I’m not going to give much space to this myth other then to say bodybuilders are like everyone else: some are tough SOB's and some are cream puffs with most somewhere in the middle. No different then the general public. I have seen a few of the tough SOB variety in action. Conversely, I was at a gym-sponsored cookout some years ago where this huge bodybuilder decided to hassle this guy half his size. Problem was, the guy happened to be the state kick boxing champion and proceeded to beat the snot out of the bodybuilder in front of a few hundred people. The lesson here is: don’t judge a book by its cover, and don’t get into fights!

Myth #5: "Bodybuilders are all gay"


As with the last myth, this one does not warrant much space. It’s my experience the bodybuilding community is gay as often as the general public. No more, no less, and how much muscle a person has does not seem to affect the rate one way or another. It’s a stupid myth that should be put to rest for good.

Myth #6: "Anyone can look like a pro bodybuilder if they take enough drugs"


If this were true, people in gyms all over the world would look like pro bodybuilders. The major difference between a high level bodybuilder and everyone else is their genetics, the one thing they have no control over. Yes, drug use is a fact of life in bodybuilding and many other sports, and yes, nutrition and training play a role; but if you don’t have the genes for it, all the steroids in the world won’t get you anywhere near to looking like the people you see in the magazines. Unfortunately, every gym has those people using doses of drugs higher than many pros and still look like sh*%. Make no mistake: drugs work and clearly add an advantage to athletes who use them, but the difference between them and you is that they chose the right parents!

Myth #7: "Bodybuilders are all Narcissistic"

Well OK, this one has a ring of truth to it. Truth be known, bodybuilders can be some of the most narcissistic people you will ever meet, but they are not all that way. Some are humble, down-to-Earth people, but let’s be honest, some narcissism is par for the course in bodybuilding. Nuff said there…

Myth #8: “Bodybuilders have small penises and they try to make up for that with big muscles”


How many times have we heard this dumb myth? Clearly, this one is directed at the male bodybuilders. Truth be known, I have not seen that many bodybuilders’ manly muscle missiles, but it’s been my impression they tend to be like every other man in that dept. Some are big, some small, while most are in the middle or “normal.” One caveat, however, is that a big guy with a normal-sized member will look smaller then a skinny guy with a normal sized member. It’s all in the proportions.

Myth #9: "Steroids don’t work"


If you believe that one you are dumber then dirt. No response to this myth required from me! There’s a bunch of steroid-related myths I could list, but this is not a steroid article, so I won’t bother.

Myth #10: “I don’t want to lift weights because I don’t want to get huge”

This one tends to be uttered by women, but I have heard men say it also on occasion. It’s a pitiful excuse for not exercising. As discussed above, very few people have the genetics to achieve even above normal levels of muscle mass, much less get “huge.” 99.9% of you reading this will be lucky to put on some muscle, and even that will take years of hard work. It’s not like anyone ever woke up one day bulging with muscles they didn’t expect. And if you are one of those rare people who put on muscle relatively easily? Lucky you!

Well there you have it; the major myths in bodybuilding (hopefully) debunked. Those were the ones I’ve seen/heard most frequently. If you think I missed one, feel free to let me know and perhaps I can add it to this article at some point. I don’t want to see anyone turned off to the great endeavor that is bodybuilding. Like all sports or life styles, bodybuilding has its dark side. However, bodybuilding can be a very healthy, productive, and fun way of life that pays major dividends, so don’t avoid it ‘cause of myths and disinformation.

See you in the gym!

Myth #11: Bodybuilders are athletes.

Myth #12: Bodybuilding is a sport.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: WillGrant on October 18, 2008, 10:49:34 PM

Myth #12: Bodybuilding is a sport.
Quote
sport (spôrt, sprt)
n.
1.
a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
b. A particular form of this activity.
2. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
3. An active pastime; recreation.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: WillGrant on October 18, 2008, 10:51:09 PM
But I understand what you mean Coach
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: Kamikaze Paul on October 18, 2008, 10:56:06 PM
Body Building Myths That Must Die!
By Will Brink


Myth #10: “I don’t want to lift weights because I don’t want to get huge”

This one tends to be uttered by women, but I have heard men say it also on occasion. It’s a pitiful excuse for not exercising. As discussed above, very few people have the genetics to achieve even above normal levels of muscle mass, much less get “huge.” 99.9% of you reading this will be lucky to put on some muscle, and even that will take years of hard work. It’s not like anyone ever woke up one day bulging with muscles they didn’t expect. And if you are one of those rare people who put on muscle relatively easily? Lucky you!

Well there you have it; the major myths in bodybuilding (hopefully) debunked. Those were the ones I’ve seen/heard most frequently. If you think I missed one, feel free to let me know and perhaps I can add it to this article at some point. I don’t want to see anyone turned off to the great endeavor that is bodybuilding. Like all sports or life styles, bodybuilding has its dark side. However, bodybuilding can be a very healthy, productive, and fun way of life that pays major dividends, so don’t avoid it ‘cause of myths and disinformation.

See you in the gym!

that is a killer concept in the gyms these days. 

Paul L.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 19, 2008, 05:54:26 AM
not only did you prove everything i said was right on target

Again, big words from those who don't have the balls to put up a pic and hide behind moms comp. Carry on son.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 19, 2008, 05:56:44 AM
In lieu of your above post - and the dazzling insight therein - I'm guessing you are not familiar with mfw from 10-15 years previous then?

Which made GB look like pre school for trolls, flame wars, and mayhem.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 19, 2008, 06:10:08 AM

JFYI in case you didnt know, posting a picture of yourself with a gun only makes people think you re an insecure e-warrior with a small dick, ask robert ziruolo .

"If you didn't know", I work with SWAT teams when I am not doing the bbing/health/fitness related stuff:

www.OptimalSWAT.com

The many vids of my training with tactical LE:



I am an Adjunct Trainer for Smith & Wesson Academy in Springfield, MA, where I will be teaching a course open only to Tactical LE.You see son, not everyone holding a gun in a pic is an e-warrior. As stated, the pic was taken at a carbine course I was attending. If you can't do the 2 + 2 on that one....

on a side note, the more you take this board seriously the more people will psychollogically assault you.

No doubt.

Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 19, 2008, 06:15:20 AM
that is a killer concept in the gyms these days. 

Paul L.

You really don't see big strong dudes in most gyms these days like you used to. Most gyms, even most Golds, Worlds, et go out of there way to prevent such people from wanting to train in their gyms, no platforms, no chalk allowed, etc, etc. In the golds I train at, I dont think there is one guy who moves any big weight (including yours truly) which was a common site "back in the day."

Some of those crazy numbers I listed were done in no place gyms like the Iron Palace in New Bedford MA. That was great old school gym, and full of strong ass guys.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: WhiteCastle on October 19, 2008, 07:50:54 AM
Epic thread backfire and multipost meltdown.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: disco_stu on October 19, 2008, 01:43:38 PM
if there was honestly someone doing 405 pound behind the necks surely there would be some footage of it, no one is stupid enough to believe that type of weight on PBN isn't beyond world class, Arcidi i might believe could maybe get a single with it but certainly no one is pushing reps with that at least not to the bottom of the ear. ::)

quaker you must live a sheltered life mate.

i too have seen incredible feats in the gym by relative unknowns and complete unknowns who dont get any press and arent followed around by video cameras. Some of them dont even realise they are freaks.

i was lucky enough to see one of the top powerlifters of the sport in our little local hole in the wall gym - i think from memory he finished 4th in the WCs in the 80kg class (mind boggles that there are others who could beat him).

he looked like the average joe- untrained. At about 6' tall and weighing 80kg this guy moved the squat rack..deep and for reps.  guys 40kg more couldnt come close.

we had another guy in the gym- a shortish guy whos name i never found out- mustve been all of 75kg tops. But more of a muscular build than the powerlifter. i watched this guy several times do multiple reps with 140-160kg on the bench after working up, then finishing his pec routine with 10-12 rep sets on a pair of 120lb dbs inclined.

Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: bigkid on October 19, 2008, 01:51:26 PM
Epic thread backfire and multipost meltdown.
hahahahah
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: bigkid on October 19, 2008, 01:53:55 PM
The more time passes, the more people exaggerate claims.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: El_Pajero on October 19, 2008, 02:06:02 PM
Most of it counts for juicers.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: BFP on October 19, 2008, 09:03:32 PM
Will, why the iron sights on that AR? i understand the CQB fight well, and think iron sights are far inferior to an aimpoint or EO tech. Or do you guys just train frontsight techniques?

Jason
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 19, 2008, 09:25:36 PM
Body Building Myths That Must Die!
By Will Brink

Every culture has its myths and bodybuilding is no exception. Like most myths, most are nine parts fantasy and one part truth, though of course, some myths have no truth to them at all. I have spent much of my career attempting to expose myths surrounding bodybuilding and topics that relate to it, such as drugs, nutrition and supplementation etc.

For example, one of my more popular articles that was published “back in the day” in Muscle Media was entitled “Nutritional myths that won’t die” which focused on myths surrounding protein and athletes. Classics such as “athletes don’t need additional protein” and “high protein diets are bad for you” as well as others were covered and debunked.

This article, however, is not about one topic or myth, but random myths that float around and never seem to die. It’s intended to be tongue-in-cheek to be sure, but it’s still a serious attempt to combat various myths that have little or no truth behind them. Some of these myths are generated inside the bodybuilding community and some are generated outside the community, by the general public and or medical community. These are in no particular order, so let’s start with a classic:

Myth #1: “Your muscles will turn to fat the soon as you stop working out - Tissue Alchemy BS”


This is a classic used by those looking for excuses for why they have not started an exercise program and resent those that have. My own mother used to say that to me as a kid when I joined a gym at 14. There is no physiological mechanism by which muscles magically convert to fat when one stops working out for some reason. What happens, however, is that many of the gains in muscle mass will be lost from the lack of stimulation. It’s not exactly earth-shattering news that people who don’t exercise and eat above maintenance calories get fat. So what you have is often a loss of muscle and an increase in body fat due to lack of exercise coupled with excess calories. The next time you see someone who used to be buffed but is now fat, it’s not because his or her muscles some how converted to fat. They are fat for the same reason millions of others are fat: too many calories, not enough activity.

Regardless, what if it were true? That is, is the fear of this mysterious muscles to fat conversion a reason to not start a weight training program? If you stop brushing your teeth, the result is (drum roll) cavities, but that’s not a legitimate reason to never start brushing your teeth! I have gained and lost many pounds of muscle over my life time, and have worked with countless people in all phases of their life, and I have yet to see any muscles convert to fat, this myth of tissue alchemy needs to die now. I have however seen plenty of people who stopped working out and got fat.

Myth #2: "Pros eat 'clean' all year round"


This myth can be blamed squarely on the bodybuilding publications who want the readers to think their heroes eat low fat healthy “clean” foods year round. This has often led to newbie types attempting to get all the calories they require for growth from baked chicken, rice, and vegetables. Of course getting - say - 4000 plus calories (or more) from such foods is virtually impossible. This reality often leaves the newbie confused and depressed because he’s not making any appreciable gains attempting to stuff himself to death with foods that are low in calories. It’s very difficult to get 4000, 5000, or even 6000 calories a day from chicken and rice. Now for the reality: off-season I have sat across the table from many a pro eating cheeseburgers, pizza, and apple pie. I know one pro who used to pull over anytime he saw a Taco Bell. Big people require plenty of calories and calorie-dense foods are the only way to get them. As the late, great Dan Duchaine once said regarding off-season eating for growth: “don’t feel bad you ate a cheeseburger, feel bad you didn’t eat three!”

Now I can’t comment on every pro’s diet as I don’t know them all, and I am sure some of them have cleaner diets then others off-season. However, make no mistake: the articles you read about what pros eat off-season and what they really eat are often two different things.

As sort of an ancillary myth, most pros will carry more body fat than they claim off-season when trying to gain new muscle mass. Telling people they eat at Taco Bell and are above single-digit body fat levels does not sell magazines or supplements, so it pays to perpetuate the myth that they are hard as nails all year (with a few exceptions) and always eat “clean”.

Myth #3: "Bodybuilders are not strong"


Only people who have never stepped into a gym make such stupid statements. Strength varies greatly person to person of course, but some bodybuilders are very strong with 800lb squats and 500lb bench presses not uncommon. I have seen people using weight that had to be seen to be believed: 600lb front squats for reps, incline bench presses with 500lbs for reps, and seated presses with 400lbs for reps, etc. No, not all bodybuilders are nearly that strong, but any bodybuilder worth his salt is still considerably stronger then the average person. Some bodybuilders compete in both power lifting and bodybuilding and often do well in both. Yes, some bodybuilders are not as strong as they look, but some are much stronger then they look, and some are crazy strong.

Myth #4: “Bodybuilders can’t fight”

I’m not going to give much space to this myth other then to say bodybuilders are like everyone else: some are tough SOB's and some are cream puffs with most somewhere in the middle. No different then the general public. I have seen a few of the tough SOB variety in action. Conversely, I was at a gym-sponsored cookout some years ago where this huge bodybuilder decided to hassle this guy half his size. Problem was, the guy happened to be the state kick boxing champion and proceeded to beat the snot out of the bodybuilder in front of a few hundred people. The lesson here is: don’t judge a book by its cover, and don’t get into fights!

Myth #5: "Bodybuilders are all gay"


As with the last myth, this one does not warrant much space. It’s my experience the bodybuilding community is gay as often as the general public. No more, no less, and how much muscle a person has does not seem to affect the rate one way or another. It’s a stupid myth that should be put to rest for good.

Myth #6: "Anyone can look like a pro bodybuilder if they take enough drugs"


If this were true, people in gyms all over the world would look like pro bodybuilders. The major difference between a high level bodybuilder and everyone else is their genetics, the one thing they have no control over. Yes, drug use is a fact of life in bodybuilding and many other sports, and yes, nutrition and training play a role; but if you don’t have the genes for it, all the steroids in the world won’t get you anywhere near to looking like the people you see in the magazines. Unfortunately, every gym has those people using doses of drugs higher than many pros and still look like sh*%. Make no mistake: drugs work and clearly add an advantage to athletes who use them, but the difference between them and you is that they chose the right parents!

Myth #7: "Bodybuilders are all Narcissistic"

Well OK, this one has a ring of truth to it. Truth be known, bodybuilders can be some of the most narcissistic people you will ever meet, but they are not all that way. Some are humble, down-to-Earth people, but let’s be honest, some narcissism is par for the course in bodybuilding. Nuff said there…

Myth #8: “Bodybuilders have small penises and they try to make up for that with big muscles”


How many times have we heard this dumb myth? Clearly, this one is directed at the male bodybuilders. Truth be known, I have not seen that many bodybuilders’ manly muscle missiles, but it’s been my impression they tend to be like every other man in that dept. Some are big, some small, while most are in the middle or “normal.” One caveat, however, is that a big guy with a normal-sized member will look smaller then a skinny guy with a normal sized member. It’s all in the proportions.

Myth #9: "Steroids don’t work"


If you believe that one you are dumber then dirt. No response to this myth required from me! There’s a bunch of steroid-related myths I could list, but this is not a steroid article, so I won’t bother.

Myth #10: “I don’t want to lift weights because I don’t want to get huge”

This one tends to be uttered by women, but I have heard men say it also on occasion. It’s a pitiful excuse for not exercising. As discussed above, very few people have the genetics to achieve even above normal levels of muscle mass, much less get “huge.” 99.9% of you reading this will be lucky to put on some muscle, and even that will take years of hard work. It’s not like anyone ever woke up one day bulging with muscles they didn’t expect. And if you are one of those rare people who put on muscle relatively easily? Lucky you!

Well there you have it; the major myths in bodybuilding (hopefully) debunked. Those were the ones I’ve seen/heard most frequently. If you think I missed one, feel free to let me know and perhaps I can add it to this article at some point. I don’t want to see anyone turned off to the great endeavor that is bodybuilding. Like all sports or life styles, bodybuilding has its dark side. However, bodybuilding can be a very healthy, productive, and fun way of life that pays major dividends, so don’t avoid it ‘cause of myths and disinformation.

See you in the gym!

  Sick and tired of the standard FLEX Magazine excuse for why pro bodybuilders use steroids:

  "Drugs are a fact of life for all elite athletes trying to push themselves to the limit. "

  What is never mentioned, of course, is the fact that:

  a) Bodybuilders take 10 times more drugs than athletes of other sports.

  b) Bodybuilding is all about steroids and other anabolic drugs. Steroids can make you hit a baseball harder, but they won't make you hit them more often or more precisely. These are athletic skills that steroids won't give you. Steroids can make you run faster throughout the basketaball court, but they won''t make you put the ball in the ring with more often nor will they make you fool your opponents who are trying to take the ball from you more often. Bodybuilding, conversely, requires nothing more than building muscle, which is what steroids do. Bodybuilders have no skills whasoever, unless you consider peddling drugs and hiding the scar tissue caused by your 20 weekly injections, or not getting scar tissue from your 20 weekly injections, as skills. I don't.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: suckmymuscle on October 19, 2008, 09:28:32 PM
regarding "Myth #3" i'd like to know which bodybuilder he's witnessed doing 500 for reps on barbell inclines and 400 for reps on barbell militaries.

  Your self-esteem issues are truly incredible. Hint: putting others down does not upgrade you from your status of fat piece of shit.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: io856 on October 19, 2008, 09:37:01 PM
  Sick and tired of the standard FLEX Magazine excuse for why pro bodybuilders use steroids:

  "Drugs are a fact of life for all elite athletes trying to push themselves to the limit. "
  b) Bodybuilding is all about steroids and other anabolic drugs. Steroids can make you hit a baseball harder, but they won't make you hit them more often or more precisely. These are athletic skills that steroids won't give you. Steroids can make you run faster throughout the basketaball court, but they won''t make you put the ball in the ring with more often nor will they make you fool your opponents who are trying to take the ball from you more often. Bodybuilding, conversely, requires nothing more than building muscle, which is what steroids do. Bodybuilders have no skills whasoever, unless you consider peddling drugs and hiding the scar tissue caused by your 20 weekly injections, or not getting scar tissue from your 20 weekly injections, as skills. I don't.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
wow!
Quoted for truth
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: 240 is Back on October 19, 2008, 09:53:01 PM
"Excuse me, I'm here to trade in this nasty firearm for some Yankees tickets - is this the right place?"

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b374/willbrink/DSC01072.jpg)
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 20, 2008, 04:22:17 AM
Will, why the iron sights on that AR? i understand the CQB fight well, and think iron sights are far inferior to an aimpoint or EO tech. Or do you guys just train frontsight techniques?

Jason

Iron site was on the AR 'cause I don't have the $$$ right now to drop an AP or EO tech site on it. Damn things can cost more than the gun! On my list of things to add when I can. I'm not a big rifle/carbine guy, most of my gun $$$ goes into 1911s.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 20, 2008, 04:29:11 AM
"Excuse me, I'm here to trade in this nasty firearm for some Yankees tickets - is this the right place?"


Oh hell no, give me the AR over any Yankee ticket anyday. ;D
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: hipolito mejia on October 20, 2008, 07:11:51 AM
  Sick and tired of the standard FLEX Magazine excuse for why pro bodybuilders use steroids:

 Bodybuilding, conversely, requires nothing more than building muscle, which is what steroids do. Bodybuilders have no skills whasoever, unless you consider peddling drugs and hiding the scar tissue caused by your 20 weekly injections, or not getting scar tissue from your 20 weekly injections, as skills. I don't.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

"Steroids are just the icing of the cake'

"You cant turn a chihuaua in to a pitbull by using steroids"

"Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder but nobody wants to do it drug free"

"I dont knock on doors, I knock them over"


"Yip Yip"
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: chester_bbb on October 20, 2008, 01:37:10 PM
are you honestly saying that you have seen people do reps with 5 plates per side on barbell inclines and 4 plates per side on militaries, if so, who?

You wouldn't know them. They're not from your local trailer park gym.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: BFP on October 20, 2008, 06:57:19 PM
Iron site was on the AR 'cause I don't have the $$$ right now to drop an AP or EO tech site on it. Damn things can cost more than the gun! On my list of things to add when I can. I'm not a big rifle/carbine guy, most of my gun $$$ goes into 1911s.

theyre definitely not cheap. Fortunately the Army paid for mine  ;D im the opposite though however, Im more a carbine/long gun type guy.  You should talk to benchmstr. He has about 7 billion dollars worth of high end firearms, that he has willed to me when he dies.

Jason
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: Method101 on October 20, 2008, 10:58:53 PM
"Excuse me, I'm here to trade in this nasty firearm for some Yankees tickets - is this the right place?"

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b374/willbrink/DSC01072.jpg)
monster neck to head ratio.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: ob205 on October 24, 2008, 08:20:55 AM
Great Post will, used to read your stuff, Lyle, Dan D, etc. on MFW back in mid 90's.  I have a para ordinance P-14 .45, remember those, .45 acp with 13rd mag?  Also, I know you have forgotten more on the science of supplementation and bb than everyone on this board.  Question, ever met Mentzer in person?  Comment please
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 24, 2008, 08:38:21 AM
Great Post will, used to read your stuff, Lyle, Dan D, etc. on MFW back in mid 90's.  I have a para ordinance P-14 .45, remember those, .45 acp with 13rd mag? Also, I know you have forgotten more on the science of supplementation and bb than everyone on this board.  Question, ever met Mentzer in person?  Comment please

Met Mentzer a few times, but briefly. When I met him he was probably 50lbs overweight and smoking a cig. Bit of a nut job honestly.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: nycbull on October 24, 2008, 06:50:37 PM
by Nut job what do you mean exactly,,, a lot of people say that but what did he say exactly that you thought he was nuts, maybe he was just eccentric.

Have you ever considered doing HRT, you are at an age you probably could get it from your doc, if not why?

Do any of the Swat team members do roids and do they ask you advice about them?

ALso went to your site....What exactly is an e-book, is it just a long PDF file?.....

The format for advertising your ebook is a bit cheesy, yours might be very good but there are other scam diet gurus out there that use the same format for selling their ebooks...the 10 ft long html page that scrolls forever....Is this some kind of proven formula for selling e-books?  I would think you would do better with a differnt format that didnt mimic rip off diet exercise sites out there.
Title: Re: 10 BBing Myths That Must Die!
Post by: www.BrinkZone.com on October 25, 2008, 05:32:11 AM
by Nut job what do you mean exactly,,, a lot of people say that but what did he say exactly that you thought he was nuts, maybe he was just eccentric.

By all accounts he was "eccentric" early in life, and downright nuts later in life. I met him mid way, and my brief encounter left me feeling he was a card or two short of a full deck.

Have you ever considered doing HRT, you are at an age you probably could get it from your doc, if not why?

Because I'm doing OK as I am and my T levels are holding, they have gone down between my 20s, 30s, and now early 40s however.

ALso went to your site....What exactly is an e-book, is it just a long PDF file?.....

Of a sorts yes, but mine come with private forums, various tools (meal planners, diet planners, etc) we had custom made for the program as a whole.

The format for advertising your ebook is a bit cheesy, yours might be very good but there are other scam diet gurus out there that use the same format for selling their ebooks...the 10 ft long html page that scrolls forever....Is this some kind of proven formula for selling e-books?  I would think you would do better with a differnt format that didnt mimic rip off diet exercise sites out there.

Never been sure what the right format is honestly. Tried various formats, but the "long copy" as it's known tends to be the more effective so far. I agree, similar set up to other crap/scam stuff. If people take a close look however, at exactly who i have for testimonials, industry types, etc, etc, they usually figure out it's on another level than the junk out there.

Unlike alot of the other stuff out there, people can at least confirm my creds, read my stuff, etc, etc on my site and a ton of other sites, so at least I have that advantage.

If you have a format you think would be superior, lay it on me!  ;D