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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: Knives on January 03, 2007, 06:34:04 PM
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what are your guys' opinions on these supps? Are they worthwhile?
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Vitamin C is always a good idea. ;D
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On a serious note I only take vitamin E on training days (4-5 times a week). I've read it helps with muscle soreness.
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do you think they're necessary in addition to a multivitamin?
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do you think they're necessary in addition to a multivitamin?
I don't think vitamin E is but there's nothing wrong with an extra 500-1000mg of vitamin C a day (split up the dose if possible).
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascorbyl_palmitate
and u r welcome! :)
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I take all of these twice daily. I believe that your body can't absorb all of that stuff at once - so you need to take it more often and pass the extra (unfortunately).
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I take all three. I take vitamin C multiple times per day. I take 6-9 grams of fish oil per day in 3g installments.
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I take all three. I take vitamin C multiple times per day. I take 6-9 grams of fish oil per day in 3g installments.
if ya check the link..above and buy the FAT soluble kind..you dont have 2.. ;)
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if ya check the link..above and buy the FAT soluble kind..you dont have 2.. ;)
I checked the link. Interesting.
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Vitamin C is always a good idea. ;D
very. Keeps me from getting sick....i think.
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I checked the link. Interesting.
far soluable vitamin > water soluble..
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far soluable vitamin > water soluble..
how so?
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how so?
you piss out the water soluable kind..
the fat soulable c just like vitamin d and e will assimilated into your fat cells..
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you piss out the water soluable kind..
the fat soulable c just like vitamin d and e will assimilated into your fat cells..
yeah, but don't you only piss out what you don't need...
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yeah, but don't you only piss out what you don't need...
with fat soluable..what ya dont need has a greater chance of ending up in your fat cells..
costs about the same..
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with fat soluable..what ya dont need has a greater chance of ending up in your fat cells..
costs about the same..
do you want it in your fat cells, does it do any good there?
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do you want it in your fat cells, does it do any good there?
does vitamin D and E thats stored in fat cells do any good?
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do you want it in your fat cells, does it do any good there?
Excellent question!
the fat soulable c just like vitamin d and e will assimilated into your fat cells..
Sounds good in theroy, but in (human) reality it falls short.
Ascorbyl palmitate: Ascorbyl palmitate is a fat-soluble antioxidant sometimes used to increase the shelf life of vegetable oils and potato chips. It is an amphipathic molecule, meaning one end is water-soluble and the other end is fat-soluble. This dual solubility allows it to be incorporated into cell membranes. When incorporated into the cell membranes of human red blood cells, ascorbyl palmitate has been found to protect them from oxidative damage and to protect vitamin E (a fat-soluble antioxidant) from oxidation by free radicals. However, the protective effects of ascorbyl palmitate on cell membranes have only been demonstrated in the test tube. Taking ascorbyl palmitate orally probably doesn’t result in any significant incorporation into cell membranes because most of it appears to be hydrolyzed (broken apart into palmitate and ascorbic acid) in the human digestive tract before it is absorbed. The ascorbic acid released by the hydrolysis of ascorbyl palmitate appears to be as bioavailable as ascorbic acid alone. The presence of ascorbyl palmitate in oral supplements contributes to the ascorbic acid content of the supplement and probably helps protect lipid-soluble antioxidants during storage. The role of vitamin C in promoting collagen synthesis and its antioxidant properties have generated interest in its use on the skin. Ascorbyl palmitate is frequently used in topical preparations because it is more stable than some aqueous (water-soluble) forms of vitamin C.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/vitCform.html
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Are they worthwhile?
Absolutely!
400-800 IU vitamin E - Natural - mixxed tocopherols
(also helps fish oil absorption better than synthetic too)
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Excellent question!
Sounds good in theroy, but in (human) reality it falls short.
Ascorbyl palmitate: Ascorbyl palmitate is a fat-soluble antioxidant sometimes used to increase the shelf life of vegetable oils and potato chips. It is an amphipathic molecule, meaning one end is water-soluble and the other end is fat-soluble. This dual solubility allows it to be incorporated into cell membranes. When incorporated into the cell membranes of human red blood cells, ascorbyl palmitate has been found to protect them from oxidative damage and to protect vitamin E (a fat-soluble antioxidant) from oxidation by free radicals. However, the protective effects of ascorbyl palmitate on cell membranes have only been demonstrated in the test tube. Taking ascorbyl palmitate orally probably doesn’t result in any significant incorporation into cell membranes because most of it appears to be hydrolyzed (broken apart into palmitate and ascorbic acid) in the human digestive tract before it is absorbed. The ascorbic acid released by the hydrolysis of ascorbyl palmitate appears to be as bioavailable as ascorbic acid alone. The presence of ascorbyl palmitate in oral supplements contributes to the ascorbic acid content of the supplement and probably helps protect lipid-soluble antioxidants during storage. The role of vitamin C in promoting collagen synthesis and its antioxidant properties have generated interest in its use on the skin. Ascorbyl palmitate is frequently used in topical preparations because it is more stable than some aqueous (water-soluble) forms of vitamin C.
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/vitamins/vitaminC/vitCform.html
good point..
but taking over 1000mgsd of ascorbic acid in a day will cause the hershy squirts
palmitate dosen't do the same..personal experience..
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good point..
but taking over 1000mgsd of ascorbic acid in a day will cause the hershy squirts
palmitate dosen't do the same..personal experience..
You got issues ;)
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You got issues ;)
lol they do princess..google it..
and of course i have issues..we established that wayyy long ago! :D
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lol they do princess..google it..
and of course i have issues..we established that wayyy long ago! :D
I must have a cast iron plumbing system. Nothing does that to me - not even cheap protein.
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I must have a cast iron plumbing system. Nothing does that to me - not even cheap protein.
more than 500 mgs of ascorbic acid..and i'm done for 4 the day...
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more than 500 mgs of ascorbic acid..and i'm done for 4 the day...
Have you tried a "timed-release" form or a buffered form?
Robert Cathcart III, M.D., of Los Altos, Calif., recommends using the "bowel-tolerance" method of determine your optimal vitamin C intake. Cathcart believes that your optimal intake is just under the diarrhea-causing amount of vitamin C. Your tolerance for vitamin C will increase when you're sick. It's best to spread out your daily dose into two to four doses, which increases absorption and reduces the chance of diarrhea
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but taking over 1000mgsd of ascorbic acid in a day will cause the hershy squirts
It depends on the persons reaction to it. I did an experiment on myself & I can tolerate over 5000mg's of Vitamin C. I think it was something like 12000-15000mg before I got the squirts & even then it wasn't that bad.
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Have you tried a "timed-release" form or a buffered form?
Robert Cathcart III, M.D., of Los Altos, Calif., recommends using the "bowel-tolerance" method of determine your optimal vitamin C intake. Cathcart believes that your optimal intake is just under the diarrhea-causing amount of vitamin C. Your tolerance for vitamin C will increase when you're sick. It's best to spread out your daily dose into two to four doses, which increases absorption and reduces the chance of diarrhea
why would i do that when ascorbyl palmitate works well for me.. :-\