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Title: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: dj181 on November 13, 2012, 12:10:09 AM
 8)

"there is another catergory of people though, the stupid... that is not correctable. it can be identified, but can be cured in only one way... col. Colt invented the way" ;D

Title: Re: pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: dj181 on November 13, 2012, 12:22:43 AM
how interesting  ::)

he knows a shitload more about training than you do dumbass
Title: Re: pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: dj181 on November 13, 2012, 12:33:40 AM
yes training with anything other than nautilus equipment will DESTROY your skeleton

he never said that, you're putting words in his mouth

he did say something like this though "used properly, a barbell is near a miracle tool for muscle building"

also, at the end of his days he basically said that all that is needed is dips, chins, and full squats
Title: Re: pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: dj181 on November 13, 2012, 01:30:59 AM
he did say that

he said humans are rotatory animals

and there for barbell weightlifting movements destroy your skeleton

and the only safe way is nautilus equipment

if you use shit form they do, but not if you use them correctly
Title: Arthur Jones = Genius
Post by: dj181 on November 15, 2012, 01:39:42 AM
[ Invalid YouTube link ]
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: WOOO on November 15, 2012, 03:15:39 AM
looks like a turd
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: _bruce_ on November 15, 2012, 04:41:36 AM
Clever dude - no wonder he had that permanently pissed off look.
What exactly is he trying to get across there?
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: Moen on November 15, 2012, 04:51:16 AM
Clever dude - no wonder he had that permanently pissed off look.

As a fellow genius, the pissed off look or rather being a bit pissed off all the time is unavoidable. When you are much smarter than basically everyone else, social traffic becomes extremely annoying. You're constantly not understood and you constantly have to explain things that seem evident to you. It is like this non-stop. There is never a period of rest unless you isolate yourself (which is not good neither).

Many geniuses do or did isolate themselves with of course dire consequences. You need people around you to not go crazy. Isolated people get depressed, psychotic, ... Next thing you know, you are cutting of ears and stuff like that :D
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: Moen on November 15, 2012, 04:53:01 AM
Arthur Jones was no different, if I recall correctly, he isolated himself in his large house, where all kinds of weird stuff was going on eventually.
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: magikusar on November 15, 2012, 04:55:00 AM
As a fellow genius, the pissed off look or rather being a bit pissed off all the time is unavoidable. When you are much smarter than basically everyone else, social traffic becomes extremely annoying. You're constantly not understood and you constantly have to explain things that seem evident to you. It is like this non-stop. There is never a period of rest unless you isolate yourself (which is not good neither).

Many geniuses do or did isolate themselves with of course dire consequences. You need people around you to not go crazy. Isolated people get depressed, psychotic, ... Next thing you know, you are cutting of ears and stuff like that :D


I agree
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: dj181 on November 15, 2012, 04:55:45 AM
Clever dude - no wonder he had that permanently pissed off look.
What exactly is he trying to get across there?

a few things...

1. exercise is safe if done properly

2. if you are a pussy and can't handle the physical pain and discomfort of hard training then don't even bother training

3. don't trust the so-called "experts" coz they are liars and are hypocritical pieces of shit
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: dj181 on November 15, 2012, 05:06:36 AM
Many geniuses do or did isolate themselves with of course dire consequences. You need people around you to not go crazy. Isolated people get depressed, psychotic, ... Next thing you know, you are cutting of ears and stuff like that :D


that's true in general, but schizoid's can handle being alone and isolated
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: magikusar on November 15, 2012, 05:17:32 AM
fuckin brilliant

Arthur Jones one of my all time favorite dudes in the iron game
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: Archer77 on November 15, 2012, 05:24:35 AM
Interesting personality for sure.
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: Moen on November 15, 2012, 05:35:24 AM
that's true in general, but schizoid's can handle being alone and isolated

Schizophrenics? Because they have voices in their head that talk to them?  ;D
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: Bad Boy Dazza on November 15, 2012, 05:39:57 AM
Arthur Jones was no different, if I recall correctly, he isolated himself in his large house, where all kinds of weird stuff was going on eventually.

Like what?
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: _bruce_ on November 15, 2012, 06:02:23 AM
Like what?

Ceremonial burning of Weider pamphlets + Lou Ferrigno voodoo doll workshops.

@Moen: I guess it's the sore feeling of a possible lynching by the legion of idiots out there due to making them understand their own stupidity.
On the other side I wouldn't underestimate a large portion of the folks out there - more clever people around than one might think... maybe it's the half full/half empty dilemma that made Jones pissed.
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: Rami on November 15, 2012, 06:05:52 AM
looks small, need mass brutally bad
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: Moen on November 15, 2012, 06:05:57 AM
Like what?

Can't remember.
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 15, 2012, 06:24:10 AM
a few things...

1. exercise is safe if done properly

2. if you are a pussy and can't handle the physical pain and discomfort of hard training then don't even bother training

3. don't trust the so-called "experts" coz they are liars and are hypocritical pieces of shit

You see the irony here, yes?
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: _bruce_ on November 15, 2012, 06:26:26 AM
You see the irony here, yes?

Hmm... so Jones could have been a liar too?
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: mass243 on November 15, 2012, 06:26:52 AM


Is that his speech at the Nobel prize awarding ceremony   ::)

Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: CalvinH on November 15, 2012, 06:32:34 AM
Wiley Coyote-super genius
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: deceiver on November 15, 2012, 06:37:23 AM
I have read his "Nautilius Bulletin #1" and he is clearly missing several facts which are crucial to optimise your training.

First, he believes that maximum strength can be efficiently increased by gradually increasing repetitions with constant weight without ever having to do actual lift with heavier loads. That is not true due to:
 - central nervous system adaptations required to control heavier weight
 - building balance through adapting supporting muscles

Also, increasing muscular strength through constant attempts to best your previous results is suboptimal. In order to increase strength CNS must be your primary concern, not hypertrophy. Adaptation of CNS through deloads, progression and periodization is crucial for maximum strength.
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: dj181 on November 15, 2012, 07:06:18 AM
First, he believes that maximum strength can be efficiently increased by gradually increasing repetitions with constant weight without ever having to do actual lift with heavier loads.

this isn't true

he prescribed that one keep the rep range @ 6-20 reps, and for upper body to keep the rep range @ 6-12 reps, and he also said that one can go as low as 4 reps (occasionaly), but to be very careful with that, because of the increased likelyhood of injury due to using heavier training loads
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: deceiver on November 15, 2012, 07:38:30 AM
this isn't true

he prescribed that one keep the rep range @ 6-20 reps, and for upper body to keep the rep range @ 6-12 reps, and he also said that one can go as low as 4 reps (occasionaly), but to be very careful with that, because of the increased likelyhood of injury due to using heavier training loads

It has nothing to do with what I stated.
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: dj181 on November 15, 2012, 07:44:47 AM
It has nothing to do with what I stated.

how do you figure?

you said... "by gradually increasing repetitions with constant weight without ever having to do actual lift with heavier loads"

AJ was all about increased training loads, that was his major gospel in fact
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 15, 2012, 08:02:32 AM
One system out of many. it all comes down to genetics, they ultimately determine how big you will be

AJ was a smart guy who marketed his product very wisely

Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: deceiver on November 15, 2012, 08:04:28 AM
how do you figure?

you said... "by gradually increasing repetitions with constant weight without ever having to do actual lift with heavier loads"

AJ was all about increased training loads, that was his major gospel in fact

You haven't read what he wrote, have you? He stated that after reaching point of strength when increasing loads becomes dangerous you should start increasing repetitions to achieve more strength.
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: Moen on November 15, 2012, 09:13:41 AM
Hmm... so Jones could have been a liar too?

Everyone lies, that's a given when it involves humans  :P
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: jprc10 on November 15, 2012, 09:41:45 AM
I've always liked AJ. I don't know if he was a genius, but he was definitively very smart in a training world full of dumb asses.
I've read plenty of his writings and they definitively influenced the way I train.
Good video.
Title: Re: AJ=genius
Post by: funk51 on November 15, 2012, 02:04:18 PM
looks like a turd
:D
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: arce1988 on November 15, 2012, 03:01:12 PM
  Salinger
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: cephissus on November 15, 2012, 03:42:59 PM
deceiver and dj, two studs discussing "what aj really said" with 0 references between them
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: Master Blaster on November 15, 2012, 10:35:02 PM
Bodybuilding is the ultimate prisoners dilemma, the perfect Liars Game.
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: Palpatine Q on November 15, 2012, 10:58:15 PM
deceiver and dj, two studs discussing "what aj really said" with 0 references between them

it's Ironical for me, because I used to think dj181 was the biggest moron on this site, until I had the pleasure of "debating" deceiver for a bit, and he revealed an even more idiotic view of life
Title: Re: pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: Figo on November 15, 2012, 11:29:37 PM
he did say that

he said humans are rotatory animals

and there for barbell weightlifting movements destroy your skeleton

and the only safe way is nautilus equipment

What he said is

Humans need nautilus machines, because he doesn't get paid if you buy a barbell
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: polychronopolous on November 16, 2012, 02:01:52 AM
A throw back to the Industrialists of the 19th century such as Williams Randolph Hearst in that Arthur Jones earned huge sums of money and spent huge sums of money.
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: magikusar on November 16, 2012, 02:33:19 AM
one of greatest guys ever

more education listening to him than 10 phd

he went in school to 9th grade but then was self educated

make 100s of millions

steroid and weider idiots continue to sell protein powder and other shit 7 day 4 hour workouts and magazines

most money in shows goes to weider idiots not to the guy who lifted

stanrdards of course goto max size roids protein guy no longer to in shape symmetry guy like arnold or serge

sell sell sell


arthur just told it as it is

his only mistake was marraige

I wish there were more vids of arthur I couldnt find this one b4 thanks for posting
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: dj181 on November 16, 2012, 03:39:38 AM
one of greatest guys ever

more education listening to him than 10 phd

he went in school to 9th grade but then was self educated

make 100s of millions

steroid and weider idiots continue to sell protein powder and other shit 7 day 4 hour workouts and magazines

most money in shows goes to weider idiots not to the guy who lifted

stanrdards of course goto max size roids protein guy no longer to in shape symmetry guy like arnold or serge

sell sell sell


arthur just told it as it is

his only mistake was marraige

I wish there were more vids of arthur I couldnt find this one b4 thanks for posting

no worries mate, when i find more i'll post them up as well

7 of his immediate family members were medical doctors

you should read his autobiography "and God laughs" great stuff there 8)
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: tommywishbone on November 16, 2012, 10:45:32 AM
Did Aurthor Jones have any sons?
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: dj181 on November 16, 2012, 10:50:26 AM
Did Aurthor Jones have any sons?


i think that he had 2

his son Gary invented the Hammer machines
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: tommywishbone on November 16, 2012, 10:59:11 AM
i think that he had 2

his son Gary invented the Hammer machines

Nice. I was just checking- I went to several of Gary's seminars and have been to the "shop". He's a good dude. He has some great Dad stories. ;D
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: dj181 on November 16, 2012, 11:25:21 AM
Nice. I was just checking- I went to several of Gary's seminars and have been to the "shop". He's a good dude. He has some great Dad stories. ;D

cool man 8)

are you able to share some of those stories with us?
Title: Re: Arthur Jones - pretty cool AJ clip
Post by: tommywishbone on November 16, 2012, 11:28:01 AM
cool man 8)

are you able to share some of those stories with us?

I'll simply say that Gary and Author DID NOT get along. . . or at least that's the way it sounds when Gary talked about "lawsuits" etc.