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Title: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: G_Thang on July 10, 2014, 12:52:31 PM
N I G G A S GONE WILD!


 THe death toll from Chicago's bloody holiday rose on Tuesday to 16 after two men who had been shot over the Fourth of July weekend died from their wounds.

Over the course of 84 hours during the Independence Day holiday in Chicago, 82 people were shot, prompting calls from Mayor Rahm Emanuel to put a stop to gun violence in the city.


Many of the shootings, which began about 3:30 p.m. Thursday, took place in some of the most violent South Side neighborhoods. Five people were reportedly shot by Chicago police, including two who died. The higher death toll was reported Tuesday by the Chicago Tribune.

Speaking to an audience at the Miles Davis Magnet Academy on the city's South Side, Emanuel called for better policing, better education, stronger gun laws and “building a sense of community” to address the city’s gun violence.

“I ask all Chicagoans, regardless of where you live … end the gun violence in our city,” Emanuel said, in video captured by the Sun-Times. “Wherever you are, wherever you live, the gun violence that was part of this weekend is totally unacceptable.”



Chicago has become the poster child for urban violence, fueled by gangs and involving drive-by shootings or attacks from cars on other vehicles. People of all ages have been shot on streets and in some cases while sitting on their porches. The weekend carnage is the greatest spate of gun violence so far this year, the Chicago Tribune reported.


Yet homicides have actually been going down since 2012 when the city surpassed 500. By 2013, the number of homicides had fallen to 415, still the largest in the nation and substantially more than New York City, with less than 350 and Los Angeles at 255. When computed as the number of murders per 100,000 people, Detroit zooms to the top of the heap in a virtual tie with New Orleans. But Chicago still has the largest number of killings.

According to the Chicago Tribune, which keeps a tally of shooting victims, 1,129 have been shot so far this year in Chicago. According to the Tribune, there were 2,185 shooting victims in Chicago last year.

Last week, Chicago police reported that the number of homicides in Chicago fell during the first half of the year compared with the same period last year. This year, Chicago had 172 homicides through June 30 — nine fewer than the same period last year and 82 fewer than during the first six months of 2012.



In 2012, an armed gunman invaded a Colorado movie theater killing 12 and injuring 70. Later in the year, Adam Lanza attacked the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., killing 20 pupils and six educators before killing himself. Those and other mass murders touched off a call for greater control of gun violence. But Congress generally ignored lobbying by gun-control groups, though some of the states tightened their rules, including limiting the size of ammunition magazines and other steps to hinder the spread of weapons.


On Monday, the gun control group funded by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced its latest campaign aimed at giving voters information as the nation heads into the mid-term election. The group is sending political candidates 10 questions on gun issues and will use the questionnaire to mobilize what it said will be 1 million Americans who back gun safety measures.

In May, Chicago’s City Council unanimously approved two measures to toughen gun laws. One law clarifies which types of assault weapons are banned.

“Chicago’s violence problem is largely a gun problem,” according to the May measure that toughened the city’s gun laws. “Every year, Chicago police officers take thousands of illegal guns off the street. But, despite these efforts, it remains far too easy for criminals to get their hands on deadly weapons.”

According to the city, from 2009 to 2013, 60% of the guns used to commit crimes in Chicago were originally bought out of state, mainly in Indiana, Mississippi and Wisconsin. Three of the top four sources for guns recovered in Chicago were gun dealers in Illinois cities near Chicago.

Not all of Chicago’s efforts have been successful. In January, a federal judge ruled that an outright ban on gun shops in Chicago was unconstitutional, citing the 2nd Amendment.

“The city of Chicago does not have a problem of too few guns,”  Emanuel noted in May. “There are way too many guns from shops in Cook County and from neighboring states that come into the city of Chicago. On any given weekend, our police officers take more guns off the streets than either New York or L.A.”
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 10, 2014, 12:53:33 PM
Is the War starting?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Nails on July 10, 2014, 01:02:18 PM
how times change


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Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2014, 01:05:17 PM
Damn whitey
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 10, 2014, 01:09:18 PM
It has begun!
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: bike nut on July 10, 2014, 01:14:58 PM
Sounds like Rahm Emanuel needs some of those good southside "Community Organizer's" to step up and make things safe.

 ::)

Good thing handguns are illegal in the city limits of Chicago.   ::)
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 10, 2014, 01:17:48 PM
So the mayor wants tougher gun laws when he already has some of the toughest gun laws in America. He was already caught manipulating stats to show lower crime in Chicago but he can't play with these crazy shooting statistics. He wants better policing but he will be the first to handcuff the police in the name of liberalism.

 In NY city the cops would stop and frisk groups of guys hanging out at 3AM.  It reduced crime because thugs knew they couldn't get away with carrying a gun. In the name of civil rights the new mayor got rid of stop and frisk for the most part and violence stats went up. In some neighborhoods drastically.

Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: 2Thick on July 10, 2014, 01:59:20 PM
The mayor is now calling for national bans, blaming guns obtained legally in other areas for the murders.  ::)

Heaven forbid he actually acknowledge the real roots of the problem instead of just trying to eliminate the preferred weapon of choice of these animals from the face of the earth.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Rudee on July 10, 2014, 02:02:29 PM
I listened to the CPD police scanner a while ago.  Couldn't imagine being a Cop there.   The suicide rate for Cops there must be high.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 10, 2014, 02:38:03 PM
For a place ghettobama supposedly organized - place is a wreck
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Bevo on July 10, 2014, 02:40:33 PM
The mayor is now calling for national bans, blaming guns obtained legally in other areas for the murders.  ::)

Heaven forbid he actually acknowledge the real roots of the problem instead of just trying to eliminate the preferred weapon of choice of these animals from the face of the earth.

Lets ban blacks, Hispanics and white trash and we good
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 10, 2014, 02:43:16 PM
Guns should be banned and none of this would happen.

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Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 10, 2014, 02:45:54 PM
Being someone who lives in Chicago, this shit isn't news anymore. It's all over TV, radio & newspapers. "Such and such number of people shot and dead tonight" ...you don't even think about it.

ALL of these shootings are on the south & west sides of the city. Great majority of the city is safe. It's just the small pockets of pure filth and shit where all of this is concentrated.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 10, 2014, 02:47:10 PM
Being someone who lives in Chicago, this shit isn't news anymore. It's all over TV, radio & newspapers. "Such and such number of people shot and dead tonight" ...you don't even think about it.

ALL of these shootings are on the south & west sides of the city. Great majority of the city is safe. It's just the small pockets of pure filth and shit where all of this is concentrated.

But aren't you worried that it will spread like cancer, inwards to the northeast?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 10, 2014, 02:49:56 PM
 The suicide rate for Cops there must be high.

I have a good friend who is 2 years on CPD and few "friends of friends" who are current CPD.

You get numb to all the shit, it becomes normal everyday stuff not even worth mentioning. In reference to all the violence & ghetto hood scum.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Nails on July 10, 2014, 02:53:26 PM
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Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 10, 2014, 02:54:50 PM
But aren't you worried that it will spread like cancer, inwards to the northeast?

Nope.

There are occasional shootings in Lincoln Park, Wicker Park, Lakeveiw (whitey liberal areas where everyone goes to for bars/restaurants/CUBS games) But these happen MAX 1-2 a year when the ghetto trash get out of their hoods. For the most part these shootings are concentrated geographically gang on gang type shit & then some innocent people get caught in the crossfire unfortunately.
It's actually been the opposite the last 10-15 years because Robert Taylor & Cabrini Green projects have been torn down and thus taking the ghetto scum out of those areas.

You can set your calendar by the violence in south/west sides of the city. As soon as weather gets nice the shootings start. Then there always 2-3 weekends where all hell breaks loose and theres like 80 people shot like this past weekend.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Nails on July 10, 2014, 03:01:04 PM
only 16 dead out of the 82 gangmembers shot  ??? ???


they need to really take this shit stains out to a firing range and teach them some accuracy for next 4th of july
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Nails on July 10, 2014, 05:45:52 PM
Didn't the Israelis kill 4x that amount of palestinians this past week  ???


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Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Lustral on July 10, 2014, 06:05:34 PM
Guns should be banned and none of this would happen.

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Ireland had a "high" of 51 murders in 2013 with a population of over 4 million. Chicago has 2.2 million and +500 murders. Ireland has no guns, USA does. Ignore state laws, people have cars.

Problem is, you can't change a culture. USA has a hard on for guns, don't cry when people die like this. It is collateral to your gun loving culture.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: wolfrittner on July 10, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
how times change


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Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: BB on July 10, 2014, 06:30:05 PM

Problem is, you can't change a culture. USA has a hard on for guns, don't cry when people die like this. It is collateral to your gun loving culture.

No one is crying, those articles are printed so folks can shake their head and go "what is wrong with those people?". The vast majority of those shootings are black on black (around 80%). And the majority are over dumb things like street corner drug beefs, various perceived disrespects, and simple robberies.

For those interested here is a funny breakdown of the year in stats -

http://heyjackass.com/category/2014-chicago-crime-murder-stats/ .
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: G_Thang on July 10, 2014, 06:54:17 PM
Didn't the Israelis kill 4x that amount of palestinians this past week  ???


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Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Primary Captain on July 10, 2014, 07:08:50 PM
N I G G A S GONE WILD!


 THe death toll from Chicago's bloody holiday rose on Tuesday to 16 after two men who had been shot over the Fourth of July weekend died from their wounds.

Over the course of 84 hours during the Independence Day holiday in Chicago, 82 people were shot, prompting calls from Mayor Rahm Emanuel to put a stop to gun violence in the city.


Many of the shootings, which began about 3:30 p.m. Thursday, took place in some of the most violent South Side neighborhoods. Five people were reportedly shot by Chicago police, including two who died. The higher death toll was reported Tuesday by the Chicago Tribune.

Speaking to an audience at the Miles Davis Magnet Academy on the city's South Side, Emanuel called for better policing, better education, stronger gun laws and “building a sense of community” to address the city’s gun violence.

“I ask all Chicagoans, regardless of where you live … end the gun violence in our city,” Emanuel said, in video captured by the Sun-Times. “Wherever you are, wherever you live, the gun violence that was part of this weekend is totally unacceptable.”



Chicago has become the poster child for urban violence, fueled by gangs and involving drive-by shootings or attacks from cars on other vehicles. People of all ages have been shot on streets and in some cases while sitting on their porches. The weekend carnage is the greatest spate of gun violence so far this year, the Chicago Tribune reported.


Yet homicides have actually been going down since 2012 when the city surpassed 500. By 2013, the number of homicides had fallen to 415, still the largest in the nation and substantially more than New York City, with less than 350 and Los Angeles at 255. When computed as the number of murders per 100,000 people, Detroit zooms to the top of the heap in a virtual tie with New Orleans. But Chicago still has the largest number of killings.

According to the Chicago Tribune, which keeps a tally of shooting victims, 1,129 have been shot so far this year in Chicago. According to the Tribune, there were 2,185 shooting victims in Chicago last year.

Last week, Chicago police reported that the number of homicides in Chicago fell during the first half of the year compared with the same period last year. This year, Chicago had 172 homicides through June 30 — nine fewer than the same period last year and 82 fewer than during the first six months of 2012.



In 2012, an armed gunman invaded a Colorado movie theater killing 12 and injuring 70. Later in the year, Adam Lanza attacked the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., killing 20 pupils and six educators before killing himself. Those and other mass murders touched off a call for greater control of gun violence. But Congress generally ignored lobbying by gun-control groups, though some of the states tightened their rules, including limiting the size of ammunition magazines and other steps to hinder the spread of weapons.


On Monday, the gun control group funded by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced its latest campaign aimed at giving voters information as the nation heads into the mid-term election. The group is sending political candidates 10 questions on gun issues and will use the questionnaire to mobilize what it said will be 1 million Americans who back gun safety measures.

In May, Chicago’s City Council unanimously approved two measures to toughen gun laws. One law clarifies which types of assault weapons are banned.

“Chicago’s violence problem is largely a gun problem,” according to the May measure that toughened the city’s gun laws. “Every year, Chicago police officers take thousands of illegal guns off the street. But, despite these efforts, it remains far too easy for criminals to get their hands on deadly weapons.”

According to the city, from 2009 to 2013, 60% of the guns used to commit crimes in Chicago were originally bought out of state, mainly in Indiana, Mississippi and Wisconsin. Three of the top four sources for guns recovered in Chicago were gun dealers in Illinois cities near Chicago.

Not all of Chicago’s efforts have been successful. In January, a federal judge ruled that an outright ban on gun shops in Chicago was unconstitutional, citing the 2nd Amendment.

“The city of Chicago does not have a problem of too few guns,”  Emanuel noted in May. “There are way too many guns from shops in Cook County and from neighboring states that come into the city of Chicago. On any given weekend, our police officers take more guns off the streets than either New York or L.A.”
Hey it's g thing. He's a real big shot.He's going to explain mud people/3rd world to us. Wow!
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: G_Thang on July 10, 2014, 07:12:00 PM
Hey it's g thing. He's a real big shot.He's going to explain mud people/3rd world to us. Wow!

 ::)

Fucking clown!
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 10, 2014, 08:09:46 PM
Ireland had a "high" of 51 murders in 2013 with a population of over 4 million. Chicago has 2.2 million and +500 murders. Ireland has no guns, USA does. Ignore state laws, people have cars.

Problem is, you can't change a culture. USA has a hard on for guns, don't cry when people die like this. It is collateral to your gun loving culture.

How many ghetto Hebrews are in Ireland???

You don't get it. Like 90-95% of these shootings are black on black crime.

Whites don't shoot each other in chicago
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 10, 2014, 08:12:00 PM
Also shootings/murders may be down in Ireland. But even without knowing the stats I assure you crimes like robbery & burglary are higher.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Primary Captain on July 11, 2014, 04:47:10 AM
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Fucking clown!
Don't get mad g thing. Can you tell us about the girls in the favelas again?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Powerlift66 on July 11, 2014, 05:23:52 AM
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Throws like a liberal little girl. GWB threw a perfect strike, that that liberal bitches  :-*

Just kidding, pipe down...
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: hrspwr1 on July 11, 2014, 05:53:06 AM
It isn`t a US "gun culture" problem it is a "gangsta culture" problem and it sounds to me like these fellas need more ammo.
The faster these idiots wise up or kill each other out the better.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 11, 2014, 06:03:15 AM
It isn`t a US "gun culture" problem it is a "gangsta culture" problem and it sounds to me like these fellas need more ammo.
The faster these idiots wise up or kill each other out the better.

Exactly
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Archer77 on July 11, 2014, 06:12:39 AM
All of y'all are racist. White people make the guns that killed those people,  therefore,  its white peoples fault.  Simple math right thar.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: TEH boob on July 11, 2014, 09:42:56 AM
Nope.

There are occasional shootings in Lincoln Park, Wicker Park, Lakeveiw (whitey liberal areas where everyone goes to for bars/restaurants/CUBS games) But these happen MAX 1-2 a year when the ghetto trash get out of their hoods. For the most part these shootings are concentrated geographically gang on gang type shit & then some innocent people get caught in the crossfire unfortunately.
It's actually been the opposite the last 10-15 years because Robert Taylor & Cabrini Green projects have been torn down and thus taking the ghetto scum out of those areas.

You can set your calendar by the violence in south/west sides of the city. As soon as weather gets nice the shootings start. Then there always 2-3 weekends where all hell breaks loose and theres like 80 people shot like this past weekend.

Englewood, Englewood, Englewood, Pilsen, Uptown, Englewood, Englewood, Uptown, Austin, Austin, Austin, Austin

Pretty much how it goes down
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: bike nut on July 11, 2014, 09:45:15 AM
Englewood, Englewood, Englewood, Pilsen, Uptown, Englewood, Englewood, Uptown, Austin, Austin, Austin, Austin

Pretty much how it goes down

Lake Forest - Laurie Dann.......whooo hooo represent!

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Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: jon cole on July 11, 2014, 10:20:43 AM
Just for my culture, there are lot of "hebrew" in Chicago ?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Leatherneck on July 11, 2014, 10:28:48 AM
Lake Forest - Laurie Dann.......whooo hooo represent!

 ;D
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South Suburbs for me.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 11, 2014, 10:51:49 AM
These 16 men would have had an average of 10 children each who would have also had 10 children each.

1600 future criminals stopped in one weekend.

Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: bike nut on July 11, 2014, 10:58:37 AM
Lake Forest - Laurie Dann.......whooo hooo represent!

 ;D
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South Suburbs for me.

South Barrington in the dangerous 60010..... ;D
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: TheGrinch on July 11, 2014, 12:26:11 PM
Sorry... Im confused..Huh?

I thought guns were illegal in Chicago  Huh Huh Huh


 Shocked Shocked Shocked

LOVE how gun control laws work... we need more gun control laws.. lets GO gun control!!.... "Mr and Ms Amerika' .. turn em' all in"... it works so well...

Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 11, 2014, 12:39:54 PM
It isn`t a US "gun culture" problem it is a "gangsta culture" problem and it sounds to me like these fellas need more ammo.
The faster these idiots wise up or kill each other out the better.

Don't ya love how Europeans, who fancy themselves as so enlightened, assume that a heterogeneous country of 300 million is a monolith.

These are the crime stats in my Precinct.

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Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: denarii on July 11, 2014, 12:45:46 PM
How many ghetto Hebrews are in Ireland???

You don't get it. Like 90-95% of these shootings are black on black crime.

Whites don't shoot each other in chicago

what about the hebrew on hebrew crimes on the upper west side of manhattan?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Rami on July 11, 2014, 12:49:31 PM
and this is good or bad or..?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Nails on July 11, 2014, 12:50:59 PM
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 11, 2014, 12:51:26 PM
Don't ya love how Europeans, who fancy themselves as so enlightened, assume that a heterogeneous country of 300 million is a monolith.

These are the crime stats in my Precinct.

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Exactly, it's so ludicrous. There's absulutly zero gun violence in 99% of the country. These liberal hell holes like Chicago skew the stats.

The guns these shit heads are killing each other with are already illegal/stolen. Banning them only takes them out of the hands of the law abiding citizens across the country.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: 2ND COMING on July 11, 2014, 01:01:35 PM
These liberal hell holes like Chicago skew the stats.

Actually, they literally skew crime in order to make things look better.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/ (http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/)
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 11, 2014, 01:08:26 PM
Actually, they literally skew crime in order to make things look better.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/ (http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/)

So sickening, politicians truly are scum. Lets give up our second amendment, I'm sure our politicians will do what's right when they're the only side with guns..  :-X :-X
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Archer77 on July 11, 2014, 01:22:35 PM
Actually, they literally skew crime in order to make things look better.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/ (http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/May-2014/Chicago-crime-rates/)

The same group of like minded individuals are trying to skew school disciplinary statistics as well. 
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: bike nut on July 11, 2014, 02:26:26 PM
Just for my culture, there are lot of "hebrew" in Chicago ?

South side and parts of the west side have high Nag populations, so theyre pretty much where all the crime happens. Literally the majority of all violent crime in Chicago happens in about 3 areas a mile square each.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Archer77 on July 11, 2014, 02:31:37 PM
South side and parts of the west side have high Nag populations, so theyre pretty much where all the crime happens. Literally the majority of all violent crime in Chicago happens in about 3 areas a mile square each.

This is a good map.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-map-july-fourth-violence-20140707,0,565719.htmlstory

Last Year.  Same general area.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/02/us/chicago-killings.html?_r=1&
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: oldgolds on July 12, 2014, 08:54:47 AM
Ireland had a "high" of 51 murders in 2013 with a population of over 4 million. Chicago has 2.2 million and +500 murders. Ireland has no guns, USA does. Ignore state laws, people have cars.

Problem is, you can't change a culture. USA has a hard on for guns, don't cry when people die like this. It is collateral to your gun loving culture.
                           

        Ireland has no Blacks...American Blacks have 8-9 times the murder rate of non-Hispanic Whites.(per capita).
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Archer77 on July 12, 2014, 09:03:22 AM
                           

        Ireland has no Blacks...American Blacks have 8-9 times the murder rate of non-Hispanic Whites.(per capita).

They have Nigerian immigrants who bring with them a lot of crime.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 12, 2014, 09:11:00 AM
They have Nigerian immigrants who bring with them a lot of crime.

True, but it's apples & oranges. The black "culture" or whatever label you want to use in USA is completely different than Ireland. Mainly due to the entitlements of welfare, the whole slavery mess, & the fact that blacks have been in this country for over 200 years.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Archer77 on July 12, 2014, 09:15:12 AM
True, but it's apples & oranges. The black "culture" or whatever label you want to use in USA is completely different than Ireland. Mainly due to the entitlements of welfare, the whole slavery mess, & the fact that blacks have been in this country for over 200 years.

All very good points, brother.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 12, 2014, 09:19:36 AM
This is a good map.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-map-july-fourth-violence-20140707,0,565719.htmlstory

Last Year.  Same general area.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/02/us/chicago-killings.html?_r=1&

Great post. For the people that don't know and are interested...

Beverly, Mount Greenwood & Morgan Park is where majority of cops & firemen live with a few other city of Chicago employees (city of Chicago employees MUST live within city limits)

Bridgeport/Chinatown/White sox area is still relatively safe. Lot of old school Italians still live there. These areas are on the edge, as I call them, of the ghetto bullshit.

Then anything north of Humboldt park (mexicans & blacks) & Austin neighborhoods, is safe white mixed with Asians/Arabs/Indians dispersed throughout. This includes Wicker Park, Lincoln Park, etc (yuppie)

The Loop area is where all of the high rise office buildings are. This area gets virtually deserted after 7pm because people mainly commute there for work/school. It's safe as well.

Anything south of 49th street all the way to 95th isn't where you want to be after dark.

Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 12, 2014, 09:29:00 AM
Again, I want to reiterate few points.

Over 90% of shootings are perpetrated by blacks/mexican ghetto scum using illegal weapons.
These shootings occur in the same shithole ghetto areas over & over again as soon as the weather gets warm.

Basically it's a few bad apples that give the city is murder/dangerous reputation. These bad apples happen to be black/mexican. Yet NOBODY in the mainstream media chooses to acknowledge this. Do something with this segment of population, and problem solved. Longer school days, more after school activities, some school/work programs....etc.

Also, Chicago Police Department is a few thousand officers short due to budget constraints as of the last few years. (Hiring is picking up now) This means less patrols, more overtime = tired officers, longer response times, ....etc. Basically less police presence in the areas where they should be (shit hole ghettos) Rather most cops are writing stupid drinking/traffic tickets to generate revenue FACT, instead of doing real cop shit.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Mr. MB on July 12, 2014, 09:31:11 AM
I live in the White Mountains of eastern Arizona. Maybe 50,000 total population. Half are Native American, 40% white and 10% Hispanic. Most everyone owns a lot of guns. I carry. We have little to zero gun violence. Our schools are great as are most of our kids up here. Reminds me when I was a teen in the 1950s.

I heard Jesse Jackson is pissed about the 3 billion going to illegal kids from Central America. (who was it you voted for Jesse?)  He wants 2 billion for Chicago kids. Like that will help Jesse. No fathers in the home, kids having kids and a culture of dropping out is cool.

I saw Hunger Games on TV two nights ago. I thought of Chicago and other big cities. Districts separate from one another. Is this our big city future?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Archer77 on July 12, 2014, 09:43:00 AM
Great post. For the people that don't know and are interested...

Beverly, Mount Greenwood & Morgan Park is where majority of cops & firemen live with a few other city of Chicago employees (city of Chicago employees MUST live within city limits)

Bridgeport/Chinatown/White sox area is still relatively safe. Lot of old school Italians still live there. These areas are on the edge, as I call them, of the ghetto bullshit.

Then anything north of Humboldt park (mexicans & blacks) & Austin neighborhoods, is safe white mixed with Asians/Arabs/Indians dispersed throughout. This includes Wicker Park, Lincoln Park, etc (yuppie)

The Loop area is where all of the high rise office buildings are. This area gets virtually deserted after 7pm because people mainly commute there for work/school. It's safe as well.

Anything south of 49th street all the way to 95th isn't where you want to be after dark.



I posted the links in response to another poster who questioned how it was possible to determine the race of the shooters.   It's actually easy, as you also pointed out, to determine what race the shooters likely are by statistics and the location of the shooting.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 12, 2014, 10:29:50 AM
I live in the White Mountains of eastern Arizona. Maybe 50,000 total population. Half are Native American, 40% white and 10% Hispanic. Most everyone owns a lot of guns. I carry. We have little to zero gun violence. Our schools are great as are most of our kids up here. Reminds me when I was a teen in the 1950s.

I heard Jesse Jackson is pissed about the 3 billion going to illegal kids from Central America. (who was it you voted for Jesse?)  He wants 2 billion for Chicago kids. Like that will help Jesse. No fathers in the home, kids having kids and a culture of dropping out is cool.

I saw Hunger Games on TV two nights ago. I thought of Chicago and other big cities. Districts separate from one another. Is this our big city future?


See the problem where you live is that you're surrounded by responsible normal people who are law abiding gun owners & don't do drive bys.

Hope this helps.  ;D
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Overload on July 12, 2014, 10:32:00 AM
Ban death.

Problem solved.


8)
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 12, 2014, 11:55:41 AM
Ban death.

Problem solved.


8)

x 2
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: TheGrinch on July 12, 2014, 12:24:37 PM


Over 90% of shootings are perpetrated by blacks/mexican ghetto scum using illegal weapons.
These shootings occur in the same shithole ghetto areas over & over again as soon as the weather gets warm.


I just need someone to clarify me why its racist to talk about FACTS??... im dumbfounded... ???
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: oldgolds on July 13, 2014, 08:59:14 AM
It's not just a "few bad apples". 50% of Blacks nationwide have been arrested by the time they are 23. It's a barrel of bad apples with SOME good ones.

I put the ratio at 70% to 30%.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 13, 2014, 02:05:45 PM
RACIST THREAD REPORTED
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Parker on July 13, 2014, 02:16:32 PM
I live in the White Mountains of eastern Arizona. Maybe 50,000 total population. Half are Native American, 40% white and 10% Hispanic. Most everyone owns a lot of guns. I carry. We have little to zero gun violence. Our schools are great as are most of our kids up here. Reminds me when I was a teen in the 1950s.

I heard Jesse Jackson is pissed about the 3 billion going to illegal kids from Central America. (who was it you voted for Jesse?)  He wants 2 billion for Chicago kids. Like that will help Jesse. No fathers in the home, kids having kids and a culture of dropping out is cool.

I saw Hunger Games on TV two nights ago. I thought of Chicago and other big cities. Districts separate from one another. Is this our big city future?

Jessie is part of the problem.
As this one YouTube personality had stated, a black life only has meaning when it is taken by a non-black person.
Strong condemnation is what is needed, by Jessie, the hip hop community, and talk about how the break down of families has helped foster kids joining gangs. Also, one needs to get to the gang leaders as well.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: 240 is Back on July 13, 2014, 05:42:15 PM
It isn`t a US "gun culture" problem it is a "gangsta culture" problem and it sounds to me like these fellas need more ammo.
The faster these idiots wise up or kill each other out the better.

i'm sure there are WAY more guns in Florida than there are in Illinois lol.   Crime way lower too.  Bad guys are always gonna kill each other, can't change that.  What the good guys CAN do it corral it off their block.  Street by street, until the scumbags are pushed out of town, or pushed into a VERY small area where they can kill each other without bothering others. 
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: The Ugly on July 13, 2014, 05:58:41 PM
I just need someone to clarify me why its racist to talk about FACTS??... im dumbfounded... ???

Common sense tells me the 'why' embarrasses them and undermines the much cherished 'victim' status they use for political gain.

Why is it racist really? It's not. Unless the facts themselves are racist.

Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 13, 2014, 07:14:03 PM
i'm sure there are WAY more guns in Florida than there are in Illinois lol.   Crime way lower too.  Bad guys are always gonna kill each other, can't change that.  What the good guys CAN do it corral it off their block.  Street by street, until the scumbags are pushed out of town, or pushed into a VERY small area where they can kill each other without bothering others. 

There are PLENTY of guns in Illinois. It's just the fact that the state is judged and ran by what happens in Chicago is the problem. Outside of Chicago it's a very pro gun state with a lot of good ol' boys who love their guns and trucks....just like in Florida. BTW, as soon as I'm retired I'm moving my ass out there. Fucking love Florida.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: pluck on July 13, 2014, 07:16:23 PM
Jessie is part of the problem.
As this one YouTube personality had stated, a black life only has meaning when it is taken by a non-black person.
Strong condemnation is what is needed, by Jessie, the hip hop community, and talk about how the break down of families has helped foster kids joining gangs. Also, one needs to get to the gang leaders as well.


Agreed. Jessie and his cronies just stir shit up, get people out on the streets to march and protest against violence. Same shit has been going on for the last 20+ years with this fucker. He gets nothing accomplished except reaffirming the whole taking advantage of the victimization of people in poverty angle. The sad thing is he has the full support of the black community and he doesn't do shit for them!
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: 240 is Back on July 13, 2014, 07:32:23 PM
There are PLENTY of guns in Illinois. It's just the fact that the state is judged and ran by what happens in Chicago is the problem. Outside of Chicago it's a very pro gun state with a lot of good ol' boys who love their guns and trucks....just like in Florida. BTW, as soon as I'm retired I'm moving my ass out there. Fucking love Florida.

you're right - IL has more guns per capita than FL, by far
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/06/28/states-with-the-most-guns.html

FL has their rough areas too - Tampa, newtown/sarasota, etc.  dirty parts of miami on way to keys, etc. 

I think the big deterrent here is the HEAT.  It's 93 degrees all day today... 99 or 100 with the heat index.   And at night, mosquitoes.  Bad guys can't just stand around on the corner all day without suffering heat exhaustion.  People stay home. 

And everything is spread out... In OH, houses were stacked so close, even nice ones.  Down here, yards are huge and it seems empty lots everywhere.  Nobody walks, barely anyone even takes the bus.  too hot. 
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: The Ugly on July 13, 2014, 07:54:19 PM
Agreed. Jessie and his cronies just stir shit up, get people out on the streets to march and protest against violence. Same shit has been going on for the last 20+ years with this fucker. He gets nothing accomplished except reaffirming the whole taking advantage of the victimization of people in poverty angle. The sad thing is he has the full support of the black community and he doesn't do shit for them!

Well, he does exactly what his supporters want, which is probably why he's still relevant. He gets them free stuff. The absolute worst part is that there's not enough of our Parkers, etc. to put him and Sharpton out of business. F'n shameless enablers, they are, without question, the worst thing to happen to American blacks since slavery.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 08:30:07 PM
Getbiggers are experts on race relations, immigration, crime, and economics.

When I want to truly understand these topics, I do not read peer reviewed journals or those thing called "books."

I read GB!!
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Parker on July 13, 2014, 08:40:07 PM
Getbiggers are experts on race relations, immigration, crime, and economics.

When I want to truly understand these topics, I do not read peer reviewed journals or those thing called "books."

I read GB!!
Whatever is in those peer reviewed journals and them damn things called "books" sure ain't stopping the bloodshed.

It's kinda like this new car called the One:1. It's supposed to go 280mph. In theory and on paper it does, but in the real world? it hasn't yet.

*not to discount what's in them dar "books'
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: The Ugly on July 13, 2014, 08:41:31 PM
Whatever is in those peer reviewed journals and them damn things called "books" sure ain't stopping the bloodshed.

It's kinda like this new car called the One:1. It's supposed to go 280mph. In theory and on paper it does, but in the real world? it hasn't yet.


Yeah, but was it peer reviewed?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Parker on July 13, 2014, 08:48:51 PM
Yeah, but was it peer reviewed?
No...because the only people who have a track long enough is VW, and they are not going to let Koenigsegg on that track.

So, they have to come to Texas, and let their peers drive the thing
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 08:50:13 PM
Whatever is in those peer reviewed journals and them damn things called "books" sure ain't stopping the bloodshed.

It's kinda like this new car called the One:1. It's supposed to go 280mph. In theory and on paper it does, but in the real world? it hasn't yet.

*not to discount what's in them dar "books'

So we should just throw away the whole idea of peer review and books because its not stopping the blood shed?

Well, youre actually wrong. NYC crime rates have dropped since the 90s. Same with Los Angeles. In LA, gangs were offing each other by records numbers in the mid 90's. Its bad, but its not that bad any more. Of cours there are still bad areas, but compared to years ago, many places have gotten better.

I am sure you will try to come back with an intellectual come back.  ::) ::) I await it.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: The Ugly on July 13, 2014, 08:52:49 PM
They totally need to peer review Chicago.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 08:53:51 PM
They totally need to peer review Chicago.

Shut up, dick!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: The Ugly on July 13, 2014, 08:56:17 PM
Shut up, dick!!  ;D ;D

Rocket science, right?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 08:58:33 PM
Rocket science, right?

Yes, I could not agree more.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Parker on July 13, 2014, 09:05:18 PM
So we should just throw away the whole idea of peer review and books because its not stopping the blood shed?

Well, youre actually wrong. NYC crime rates have dropped since the 90s. Same with Los Angeles. In LA, gangs were offing each other by records numbers in the mid 90's. Its bad, but its not that bad any more. Of cours there are still bad areas, but compared to years ago, many places have gotten better.

I am sure you will try to come back with an intellectual come back.  ::) ::) I await it.
No, I was being sarcastic. Of course not. All things can be used as tools.
 
Also, which crimes have dropped? Which crimes are reported? I know someone in NYC who  recently had her place burglarized...she didn't reporte itbecause it was too much of a hassle. It's not that I don't believe you, because I do. And yes, I know the crime stats given by the FBI, etc
It's just that with certain areas, especially when the politicians get involved, they want things to seem a certain way. Certain areas ared deemed safer now than before. Or certain crimes in nice neighborhoods or counties don't hit the papers.
This nation itself in the midst of a heroin and prescription drug epidemic like we haven't seen before.
When you can go to your local grocery store (regardless of place) and find someone passed out in a bathroom stall with a needle in their arm, there is a problem.
 This nation is literally falling apart at the seams.  
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 09:08:55 PM
No, I was being sarcastic. Of course not. All things can be used as tools.
 
Also, which crimes have dropped? Which crimes are reported? I know someone in NYC who  recently had her place burglarized...she didn't reported because it was too much of a hassle. It's not that I don't believe you, because I do. And yes, I know the crime stats given by the FBI, etc
It's just that with certain areas, especially when the politicians get involved, they want things to seem a certain way. Certain areas ared deemed safer now than before. Or certain crimes in nice neighborhoods or counties don't hit the papers.
This nation itself in the midst of a heroin and prescription drug epidemic like we haven't seen before.
When you can go to your local grocery store (regardless of place) and find someone passed out in a bathroom stall with a needle in their arm, there is a problem.
 This nation is literally falling apart at the seams.  

Well, Guiliani cleaned up NYC big time, especially around the time square area. Prostitution, violence, drugs.

In terms of violence in LA, things have definitely gotten much better since the mid-90's, though some parts, like Watts, are still very bad.

That sea change in violence and its ramifications is part of a national trend, though the effects in Los Angeles have been particularly dramatic. Across the nation, the homicide rate — the number of people killed per 100,000 population — increased from about four per 100,000 in the 1950s to about 10 in the early 1990s; since then, it has dropped to about 5.5. The decline in Los Angeles has been far greater: In 1993, the homicide rate was 30.5 per 100,000; this year, it's on track to end at about six. As city leaders like to note, not since Eisenhower was president has Los Angeles been this safe.

Obviously, "this safe" is still not good enough, but better than what it was.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Parker on July 13, 2014, 09:14:53 PM
Well, Guiliani cleaned up NYC big time, especially around the time square area. Prostitution, violence, drugs.

In terms of violence in LA, things have definitely gotten much better since the mid-90's, though some parts, like Watts, are still very bad.

That sea change in violence and its ramifications is part of a national trend, though the effects in Los Angeles have been particularly dramatic. Across the nation, the homicide rate — the number of people killed per 100,000 population — increased from about four per 100,000 in the 1950s to about 10 in the early 1990s; since then, it has dropped to about 5.5. The decline in Los Angeles has been far greater: In 1993, the homicide rate was 30.5 per 100,000; this year, it's on track to end at about six. As city leaders like to note, not since Eisenhower was president has Los Angeles been this safe.

Obviously, "this safe" is still not good enough, but better than what it was.
True. And there have been many contributions to the lowered crime rate. technology, manpower. Smarter ways of doing things (due to them peer reviewed studies?) More educated people moving in certain areas, some people wisening up, etc
I guess what I am getting at is that we can sit here and intellectualize all we want, write books, etc...But in the end, talk is cheap. Like getting into the gym. You can't have a "gym" body unless you are the gym.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 09:33:36 PM
True. And there have been many contributions to the lowered crime rate. technology, manpower. Smarter ways of doing things (due to them peer reviewed studies?) More educated people moving in certain areas, some people wisening up, etc
I guess what I am getting at is that we can sit here and intellectualize all we want, write books, etc...But in the end, talk is cheap. Like getting into the gym. You can't have a "gym" body unless you are the gym.

Actually, yes, most likely being peer reviewed or studied in great detail. And of course talk is cheap. I know quite a few people who go into communities and develop programs, etc.

Do you think they pick the average guy hanging on the corner to develop community based programs and technology to improve communities? Most cities or states that consult with people on these matters are PhDs who have studied community problems in great depth. And most of these people have articles published or journals written. They use their knowledge based on what they have studied to improve communities. I mean, I know youre not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I didn't know you were this dumb.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 09:37:09 PM
And a funny article about Chicago by the Onion

http://www.theonion.com/articles/environmental-study-finds-air-in-chicago-now-75-bu,36407/

Environmental Study Finds Air In Chicago Now 75% Bullets

CHICAGO—Highlighting increasingly dangerous conditions within the city, a new study published Monday by Northwestern University’s Department of Environmental Studies revealed that approximately 75 percent of the air in Chicago is now composed of bullets. “Far exceeding the levels of carbon dioxide, nitrogen, and even oxygen, bullets now constitute three-fourths of Chicago’s air supply,” said atmospheric scientist and study coauthor John Molina, stressing that the dense and widespread deposits of jacketed lead and copper in the air pose severe and potentially fatal health risks to all Chicago residents. “According to our measurements, the proportion of bullets in Chicago’s overall air composition is significantly higher than that of other cities with comparable sizes and population densities. Frankly, if this trend continues—and there is unfortunately little evidence suggesting otherwise—living safely within the confines of Chicago will be almost impossible.” Molina went on to suggest that Chicago’s 2.7 million residents stay indoors whenever possible in order to minimize their exposure.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: The Ugly on July 13, 2014, 09:37:46 PM
Actually, yes, most likely being peer reviewed or studied in great detail. And of course talk is cheap. I know quite a few people who go into communities and develop programs, etc.

Do you think they pick the average guy hanging on the corner to develop community based programs and technology to improve communities? Most cities or states that consult with people on these matters are PhDs who have studied community problems in great depth. And most of these people have articles published or journals written. They use their knowledge based on what they have studied to improve communities. I mean, I know youre not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I didn't know you were this dumb.  :-\ :-\

Wow.

Wait, has his intelligence been peer reviewed?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 09:38:41 PM
Wow.

Wait, has his intelligence been peer reviewed?

Well, I was more just trolling. Parker is actually a pretty smart guy and I enjoy reading his posts.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Parker on July 13, 2014, 09:40:07 PM
Actually, yes, most likely being peer reviewed or studied in great detail. And of course talk is cheap. I know quite a few people who go into communities and develop programs, etc.

Do you think they pick the average guy hanging on the corner to develop community based programs and technology to improve communities? Most cities or states that consult with people on these matters are PhDs who have studied community problems in great depth. And most of these people have articles published or journals written. They use their knowledge based on what they have studied to improve communities. I mean, I know youre not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I didn't know you were this dumb.  :-\ :-\
Yes, I know this. You do know that I actually have been agreeing with you the whole time.
Or is it lost in translation?
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Parker on July 13, 2014, 09:41:04 PM
Well, I was more just trolling. Parker is actually a pretty smart guy and I enjoy reading his posts.
I fell for da troll...
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 09:41:28 PM
Yes, I know this. You do know that I actually have been agreeing with you the whole time.
Or is it lost in translation?

Was difficult to tell the difference between trolling vs. seriousness.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Parker on July 13, 2014, 09:47:03 PM
Was difficult to tell the difference between trolling vs. seriousness.
Yeah...
It happens, how often I don't know. That needs to be peer reviewed.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 09:48:01 PM
Yeah...
It happens, how often I don't know. That needs to be peer reviewed.


It wouldn't get funded under the Obama administration. They do not fund those sort of studies.

Coach Approved.
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Parker on July 13, 2014, 10:58:40 PM
It wouldn't get funded under the Obama administration. They do not fund those sort of studies.

Coach Approved.
Thanks, Obama
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2014, 11:08:26 PM
Thanks, Obama

(http://humanevents.com/uploads/2012/09/be-the-change-20sept2012-david.jpg)
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 14, 2014, 05:41:09 AM
So we should just throw away the whole idea of peer review and books because its not stopping the blood shed?

Well, youre actually wrong. NYC crime rates have dropped since the 90s. Same with Los Angeles. In LA, gangs were offing each other by records numbers in the mid 90's. Its bad, but its not that bad any more. Of cours there are still bad areas, but compared to years ago, many places have gotten better.

I am sure you will try to come back with an intellectual come back.  ::) ::) I await it.

I'll take violence and crime over the police state known as NYC.  :-X

Actually, I'll just avoid those hell holes all together.  8)
Title: Re: Death toll rises to 16 in Chicago's bloody 4th of July weekend; 82 shot
Post by: Roger Bacon on July 14, 2014, 05:46:20 AM
I'm really interested in all the peer reviewed research that backs up this diet:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/USDA_Food_Pyramid.gif)

 :D