Conditioning, size, shape, hardness, (CALVES) , Back, front, legs, Chest, Lats, Waist, Arms -(Equal) overall winner Big RAMY!!!!!!!! Deal with it. *** but, " Must pay your dues bullshit" If not for Dexters name in this sport? (let us put it another way, for you newbs?) let's say this was the first time ever that you saw Ramy and Dex, side by side ? Ramy rapes Dexter! Think about that toppers!!!!!!! Fuck! Not even close!!!