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even tho their development was comparable but not quite
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Jay was actually pretty strong. I seem to remember him inclining 405 for a few. Cormier could incline 405 for at least 12 and Dennis James could press a shitload, even if he didn't touch his chest at the bottom of every rep. Even Dorian was an outstanding BB incline presser before some of his injuries. I know a guy from Temple Gym who swears on his kids that he saw Dorian incline 455 for 7 very strict reps sometime in early '93.
Ronnie was very strong overall but there are a number of pros who could equal or beat him on some lifts. If memory serves, he and Levrone had a bench-off not long after Ronnie won his first Mr. O or two. Ronnie did 500 for a triple whilst Kevin got it for 6.
Ronnie really shined in DB presses. I think most pros were too chickenshit to even attempt 200's for flat or incline DB presses, but Ronnie just saw it as another day on the job. And there really ARE few pros who could equal or beat him on the DB presses he did in "The Unbelievable." His prowess with the DBs leads me to believe he could handle much more than he did with a BB but, for some reason or another, never quite realized his pressing potential, at least in a powerlifting sense.
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Jay was actually pretty strong. I seem to remember him inclining 405 for a few. Cormier could incline 405 for at least 12 and Dennis James could press a shitload, even if he didn't touch his chest at the bottom of every rep. Even Dorian was an outstanding BB incline presser before some of his injuries. I know a guy from Temple Gym who swears on his kids that he saw Dorian incline 455 for 7 very strict reps sometime in early '93.
Ronnie was very strong overall but there are a number of pros who could equal or beat him on some lifts. If memory serves, he and Levrone had a bench-off not long after Ronnie won his first Mr. O or two. Ronnie did 500 for a triple whilst Kevin got it for 6.
Ronnie really shined in DB presses. I think most pros were too chickenshit to even attempt 200's for flat or incline DB presses, but Ronnie just saw it as another day on the job. And there really ARE few pros who could equal or beat him on the DB presses he did in "The Unbelievable." His prowess with the DBs leads me to believe he could handle much more than he did with a BB but, for some reason or another, never quite realized his pressing potential, at least in a powerlifting sense.
500lb for 5
levrone did the same...
overall ronnie was the strongest pro ever... no contest
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Jay's "muscle" was actually oil all along.
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I knew someone who worked in with Ronnie in 96 and at the time he said Cormier was the strongest
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I herd jay is very strong, but just never really goes as heavy. I think its smart though .
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I also think Coleman just enjoyed the act of lifting more. Even when he was at the top of the bodybuilding game, there still seemed to be a bit of a powerlifter's mentality lurking about. Cutler and a few others seemed not to care as much in that regard as the years went by.
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Fake plates for the vids. Hope this helps.
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500lb for 5
levrone did the same...
overall ronnie was the strongest pro ever... no contest
Actually he was second strongest but the strongest I guess would not count cause he was the shittiest bodybuilder ever but he would shit on Colemans lifts. Kovacks.
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Actually he was second strongest but the strongest I guess would not count cause he was the shittiest bodybuilder ever but he would shit on Colemans lifts. Kovacks.
Strongest on what? Hammer Strength and cable movements?
Kovacs couldn't do one single chin-up or dip with his own bodyweight lol
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Actually he was second strongest but the strongest I guess would not count cause he was the shittiest bodybuilder ever but he would shit on Colemans lifts. Kovacks.
I've heard stories that Kovacks could bench press over 600 pounds...However that was only using a smith machine. When someone finally dared him to use a regular bench press, he only got 405 for 4 reps...He claimed it was because of an injury and never flat benched again.lol
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Strongest on what? Hammer Strength and cable movements?
Kovacs couldn't do one single chin-up or dip with his own bodyweight lol
no way, you don't have a clue about what you are talking about, I have personally see him lift and no one was like him no one AND I DON'T LIE, anyone that knows me around here knows I don't lie, my rep is on line.
2 arm side laterals with 120's with near perfect form, I saw him shoulder press the 180's for 10 clean reps and he did 15 reps with 455 lb on flat bench like nothing.
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I've heard stories that Kovacks could bench press over 600 pounds...However that was only using a smith machine. When someone finally dared him to use a regular bench press, he only got 405 for 4 reps...He claimed it was because of an injury and never flat benched again.lol
I have seen him do 4 plates for at least 12 on inclines with my own eyes so throw that dumb story out the window.
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Jay was actually pretty strong. I seem to remember him inclining 405 for a few. Cormier could incline 405 for at least 12 and Dennis James could press a shitload, even if he didn't touch his chest at the bottom of every rep. Even Dorian was an outstanding BB incline presser before some of his injuries. I know a guy from Temple Gym who swears on his kids that he saw Dorian incline 455 for 7 very strict reps sometime in early '93.
Ronnie was very strong overall but there are a number of pros who could equal or beat him on some lifts. If memory serves, he and Levrone had a bench-off not long after Ronnie won his first Mr. O or two. Ronnie did 500 for a triple whilst Kevin got it for 6.
Ronnie really shined in DB presses. I think most pros were too chickenshit to even attempt 200's for flat or incline DB presses, but Ronnie just saw it as another day on the job. And there really ARE few pros who could equal or beat him on the DB presses he did in "The Unbelievable." His prowess with the DBs leads me to believe he could handle much more than he did with a BB but, for some reason or another, never quite realized his pressing potential, at least in a powerlifting sense.
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I knew someone who worked in with Ronnie in 96 and at the time he said Cormier was the strongest
Cormier was a beast, and I think he could have surpassed Ronnie had he not torn his tricep, and stopped partying and messing with the rec drugs.
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Cormier was a beast, and I think he could have surpassed Ronnie had he not torn his tricep, and stopped partying and messing with the rec drugs.
Guy was a beast
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^695 squat on the first scan.
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I saw tape of Cormier incline pressing and he does three quarter to half presses. I can't help feel he would be buried for one rep with 405 if he touched his chest with the bar.
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I saw tape of Cormier incline pressing and he does three quarter to half presses. I can't help feel he would be buried for one rep with 405 if he touched his chest with the bar.
It was said that he was excellent at pressing movements, and decent at pulling movements. And he has said this as well. I think he would surprise you.
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I saw tape of Cormier incline pressing and he does three quarter to half presses. I can't help feel he would be buried for one rep with 405 if he touched his chest with the bar.
on flat touching the chest make a world of a difference but not on inclines, barley makes a difference, he would not have been buried, he would have lost a rep or 2 nothing more.
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on flat touching the chest make a world of a difference but not on inclines, barley makes a difference, he would not have been buried, he would have lost a rep or 2 nothing more.
lol It makes a SHITLOAD of a difference touching your chest on the incline or doing half reps, way more than on the flat bench.
Also there was on old video of Cormier somewhere trying to bench the 200 dbs. He was barely able to even get them in the starting position while Coleman did 10 reps with ease. ;D
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lol It makes a SHITLOAD of a difference touching your chest on the incline or doing half reps, way more than on the flat bench.
Also there was on old video of Cormier somewhere trying to bench the 200 dbs. He was barely able to even get them in the starting position while Coleman did 10 reps with ease. ;D
;D
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lol It makes a SHITLOAD of a difference touching your chest on the incline or doing half reps, way more than on the flat bench.
Also there was on old video of Cormier somewhere trying to bench the 200 dbs. He was barely able to even get them in the starting position while Coleman did 10 reps with ease. ;D
You are fucken crazy, no it doesn't compare to flat.
If you sink your flat past a certain point you get buried and flat out bar gets stuck on your chest because your elbows are too far back and with incline it is not the case, of course the lower you go the harder but the bottom is not a sticking point like it is on flat.
fuck bro to you even lift?
As far as Cormier, well my post really was not reffering to him per se just about inclines in general although he was the one we were talking about. I agree completely Ronnie was stronger..
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ron is powerlifter deep down.
and there are many more lifts to be strong at than just bench press...
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Dexter Jackson won a Mr Olympia with a bench press of 135lbs
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Light Weight!
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Dexter Jackson won a Mr Olympia with a bench press of 135lbs
lol, no ;D
not the strongest but probably a 450 bench or so.
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;D
Granted, that is older, and by the late 90s early 2000s, he was handling 200s.
And remember Shawn Ray was using 180s.
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Granted, that is older, and by the late 90s early 2000s, he was handling 200s.
And remember Shawn Ray was using 180s.
Shawn Ray is arrogant I am not a fan of his he was never huge but had decent physique.
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genetics!
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Cutler is smart and never lifts heavier than he has two. Jay is a multiple Olympia winner, Cormier is homeless or plays playstation all day.
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even tho their development was comparable but not quite
Cause professional Bodybuilding is not about how much you can lift, but how much you can inject.
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH
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even tho their development was comparable but not quite
when will you wake up???
bodybuilding has little to do with big poundage......coleman was originally a powerlifter......jay was always a bber......he trained with weight heavy enough to stimulate muscle growth......but he was not concerned with a 1 rep max in the bench, squat and deadlift.
why are some of you guys so obsessed with who is stronger etc??? that is all for ego. if you are ed coan or larry pacifico that is one thing.....but for bbing purposes.....weight doesn't have to be over the top heavy......my 2 cents.
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Shawn Ray is arrogant I am not a fan of his he was never huge but had decent physique.
decent physique?? one of the best to ever step onstage!!
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decent physique?? one of the best to ever step onstage!!
He was ok, he won most of his shows when the bigger guys were not around or not in shape.
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I saw tape of Cormier incline pressing and he does three quarter to half presses. I can't help feel he would be buried for one rep with 405 if he touched his chest with the bar.
he brings the bar to his chin in an effort to keep tension on his pecs.....not to cheat during the movement........for Christ sake.....Cormier's chest was quite good!
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Cutler wasn't necessarily weaker than Ronnie. He just didn't focus on moving the weight
from A to B. You don't necessarily have to get any stronger muscularly to lift more weight.
You just practice the movement, in the rep range you want to get stronger at, being concious of the
poundage, always trying to increase it... that how you demonstrate strength.
All guys with big muscles are strong muscularly. They may not be able demonstrate it as well
as others though.
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SHAWN RAY 87 NATIONALS 21 YRS OLD WAS AS POLISHED AS STONE UNREAL....88 MR O GOT SPANKED 13TH AND THEN WENT ON TO COMPETE AS TOP 5 GUY 12 YRS ON...
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Cutler wasn't necessarily weaker than Ronnie. He just didn't focus on moving the weight
from A to B. You don't necessarily have to get any stronger muscularly to lift more weight.
You just practice the movement, in the rep range you want to get stronger at, being concious of the
poundage, always trying to increase it... that how you demonstrate strength.
All guys with big muscles are strong muscularly. They may not be able demonstrate it as well
as others though.
What do you mean by strong muscularly? I always though that in lifting weights it's all about tendons and ligaments, and muscle strength plays minor supporting role.
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Guy was a beast
One look at Cormier's too-far-out-in-front knees in the squat pic and anyone with an ounce of knowledge will know Chris didn't squat that weight. If he achieved any degree of depth, he'd have gotten crushed. Or ... his knees would have blown out.
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One look at Cormier's too-far-out-in-front knees in the squat pic and anyone with an ounce of knowledge will know Chris didn't squat that weight. If he achieved any degree of depth, he'd have gotten crushed. Or ... his knees would have blown out.
Not sure where he is , racking/un-racking the weight , doesn't look like he's in the movement