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Title: Ramadan???
Post by: John Smith from Canada on August 24, 2009, 01:03:24 AM
What happened to my post about Ramadan? Was it moved? Anyway, thanks for the help my friends.  ;)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: garebear on August 24, 2009, 01:07:06 AM
I got this a couple of days ago.

Obey the rules.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Mars on August 24, 2009, 01:10:10 AM
religion is a joke
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: John Smith from Canada on August 24, 2009, 01:18:08 AM
In some ways Bodybuilding is like a religion. However, I wouldn't go into a Mosque and say that for reasons obvious. But, it shouldn't be that way. Islam needs more Liberal moderate people that aren't afraid to speak out. 
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: garebear on August 24, 2009, 01:26:14 AM
Woops. Gave the wrong side of the card. These are the rules we are supposed to follow.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: MethodGNA on August 24, 2009, 01:30:14 AM
nobody cares f@ggot....everybody on getbig conferred, and they want you to die, and never,ever, post here again............particu larly your muslim bullshit 


Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: garebear on August 24, 2009, 01:39:06 AM
nobody cares f@ggot....everybody on getbig conferred, and they want you to die, and never,ever, post here again............particu larly your muslim bullshit 



anybody that wants me to die is just going to have to get in line.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: BIG ACH on August 24, 2009, 10:40:44 AM

I used to fast for Ramadan - even trained while I did, but now I don't believe any more and this is my second year not fasting.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on August 24, 2009, 10:46:17 AM
I dont think god is gonna give a shit if your sleeves are down below your elbows
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Bobby on August 24, 2009, 11:11:16 AM
fasting hah self-owned
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Mr. Magoo on August 24, 2009, 11:13:22 AM
3 PM?

 ???
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 24, 2009, 11:15:45 AM
I took a big ramadan after lunch today.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on August 24, 2009, 11:24:34 AM
religion is a joke

Every ideology is a joke.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 24, 2009, 11:24:54 AM
nobody cares f@ggot....everybody on getbig conferred, and they want you to die, and never,ever, post here again............particu larly your muslim bullshit 




When did Catholic priest start wearing turbans???

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295117.0;attach=335615;image)


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295117.0;attach=335616;image)

I guess they are doing as the Rabbis do

(http://www.aztlan.net/metzitzah_b_peh.gif)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2009, 11:36:41 AM
When did Catholic priest start wearing turbans???

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295117.0;attach=335615;image)


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=295117.0;attach=335616;image)

I guess they are doing as the Rabbis do

(http://www.aztlan.net/metzitzah_b_peh.gif)

Hey look, it's the jihadist gimmick that preaches that Muslims can do no wrong. We get it, you Muslims think it's not gay as long as you're not the one taking it up the ass. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Just think, a religion that glorifies pedophilia!  ::)



Now pipe down and get back to mutilating the clitoris's of four year old girls.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 24, 2009, 11:44:48 AM
Hey look, it's the jihadist gimmick that preaches that Muslims can do no wrong. We get it, you Muslims think it's not gay as long as you're not the one taking it up the ass. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Just think, a religion that glorifies pedophilia!  ::)



Now pipe down and get back to mutilating the clitoris's of four year old girls.

MELTDOWN!!!!!
(http://reecreativedesigns.com/resources/melting+candle.png)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2009, 11:53:42 AM
MELTDOWN!!!!!
(http://reecreativedesigns.com/resources/melting+candle.png)

Not a meltdown, my little jihadist gimmick friend. I see you've found your balls again after you tucked tail and ran from the politics board when you got owned into oblivion.  :D
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 24, 2009, 11:59:16 AM
Not a meltdown, my little jihadist gimmick friend. I see you've found your balls again after you tucked tail and ran from the politics board when you got owned into oblivion.  :D

Don't tell me you were one of the victims of these Rabbis or Catholic priests????...
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2009, 12:05:11 PM
Don't tell me you were one of the victims of these Rabbis or Catholic priests????...

I'm pretty sure that's a picture of Mohammed. You know, the guy who fucked a six year old girl and paved the way for thousands of years of child rape?

Regardless, the practices of catholics and rabbis pale in comparison to female genital mutilation, which is heavily practiced by almost every group of Muslims. It usually involves a girl (most likely under the age of 10) being held down in public by 3-5 men while another man severs her clitoris and clitoral hood. He then stitches her vagina just about closed. All without the use of sterile equipment or anesthetic. I mean, it really makes them not have sex or anything, right?   ::)

Nevermind, women are nothing more than rape objects and glorified slaves to most Muslims. Move along gimmick.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: DK II on August 24, 2009, 12:08:42 PM
What happened to my post about Ramadan? Was it moved? Anyway, thanks for the help my friends.  ;)

it went down the toilet, where it belongs.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 12:15:07 PM

Just think, a religion that glorifies pedophilia!  ::)




Try to type "Pedophilia in the Catholic Church" in google  you fool.

"Recent studies published in Los Angeles raised these estimates even higher, considering that only 6% of abused children report the crimes. If this is true, as I believe it is, the number of victims would far surpass the 100,000 cases"

"Abel's study discovered that 403 pedophiles had molested more than 67,000 children! Pedophiles who targeted male victims averaged 282 victims, while pedophiles who targeted girls averaged 23 victims. Other studies have uncovered more traditional findings of higher incidences of abuse of girls."

"So we have to deal with what we know are facts: Some priests and bishops are gay. (Estimates range between 25 and 70 percent). Some priests and bishops are sexually active in a whole range of behaviors, heterosexual and homosexual. Pepe Rodriguez, (1995) writing about priests in Spain found that among practicing priests 95 percent masturbate; 60 percent have sexual relations; 20 percent experiment with homosexual practices; 12 percent are exclusively homosexual in orientation and behavior; 26 percent have attachments to minors; 7 percent have been sexually active with minors"

"According to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ independent survey of February 2004 (the results are on www.religioustolerance.o rg) between 1950 and 2002, 110,000 priests served in the U.S., of whom 4,450 have been accused of abuse, or around 4%. According to 2001 figures, there are 405,000 priests in the world, so if 4% of them are abusers, that is 16,200 priests, assuming the same rate of abuse in America as in the rest of the world (and who knows and why not?). So 16,200 priests abusing a modest 30 victims each is 486,000 victims over the last 50 years. So that comes out at 972,000 victims for 20th century, a few thousand less by this estimate, but still perhaps around 3 million."

Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2009, 12:20:21 PM
Try to type "Pedophilia in the Catholic Church" in google  you fool.

"Recent studies published in Los Angeles raised these estimates even higher, considering that only 6% of abused children report the crimes. If this is true, as I believe it is, the number of victims would far surpass the 100,000 cases"

"Abel's study discovered that 403 pedophiles had molested more than 67,000 children! Pedophiles who targeted male victims averaged 282 victims, while pedophiles who targeted girls averaged 23 victims. Other studies have uncovered more traditional findings of higher incidences of abuse of girls."

"So we have to deal with what we know are facts: Some priests and bishops are gay. (Estimates range between 25 and 70 percent). Some priests and bishops are sexually active in a whole range of behaviors, heterosexual and homosexual. Pepe Rodriguez, (1995) writing about priests in Spain found that among practicing priests 95 percent masturbate; 60 percent have sexual relations; 20 percent experiment with homosexual practices; 12 percent are exclusively homosexual in orientation and behavior; 26 percent have attachments to minors; 7 percent have been sexually active with minors"

"According to the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ independent survey of February 2004 (the results are on www.religioustolerance.o rg) between 1950 and 2002, 110,000 priests served in the U.S., of whom 4,450 have been accused of abuse, or around 4%. According to 2001 figures, there are 405,000 priests in the world, so if 4% of them are abusers, that is 16,200 priests, assuming the same rate of abuse in America as in the rest of the world (and who knows and why not?). So 16,200 priests abusing a modest 30 victims each is 486,000 victims over the last 50 years. So that comes out at 972,000 victims for 20th century, a few thousand less by this estimate, but still perhaps around 3 million."



Does Catholicism endorse and condone pedophilia? No. Does the Koran and Haddith? Yes. Mohammed (peace be upon the douche), at 54 years old, married six year old Aisha and deflowered her, paving the way for millions of other Muslim men to marry girls as young as five or sex years old. And it is endorsed and even encouraged by many prominent Muslims. For example, the book Iran's ayatollah wrote a few years ago basically preaches that it's a Muslim man's duty to marry children and deflower them.

There was massive public outrage over the pedophilia incidents regarding Catholics priests. In Muslim societies, raping a six year old gets you a pat on the back and a congratulatory high five.

But yes, let's liken the actions of priests to the words written in a holy book. Really good argument. Why did you switch gimmicks, Samson? ::)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 24, 2009, 12:23:54 PM
BF preaching the truth.  Mohammed was a punk-ass trick, and so are ALL his followers...fact.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Samourai Pizzacat on August 24, 2009, 12:25:58 PM
Woops. Gave the wrong side of the card. These are the rules we are supposed to follow.

I'm guessing this is a card for the peace forces in Afghanistan. So I see no particular problem.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 01:20:44 PM
Does Catholicism endorse and condone pedophilia? No. Does the Koran and Haddith?

Some haddith say she is 9 years some 13,14, 21...

According to hadith in Bukhari and Muslim, Aisha is said to have joined Muhammad on the raid that culminated in the Battle of Badr, in 624 CE. However, because no one below the age of 15 was allowed to accompany raiding parties, Aisha should have been at least 15 in 624 CE and thus at least 13 when she was married following the Hijra in 622 CE.

Ibn Hisham’s recension of Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rashul Allah, the earliest surviving biography of Muhammad, records Aisha as having converted to Islam before Umar ibn al-Khattab, during the first few years of Islam around 610 CE. In order to accept Islam she must have been walking and talking, hence at least three years of age, which would make her at least 15 in 622 CE.

According to the generally accepted tradition, Aisha was born about eight years before Hijrah. However, according to another narrative in Bukhari (Kitaab al-Tafseer) Aisha is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur’an , was revealed, “I was a young girl”. The 54th Surah of the Qur’an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Aisha had not only been born before the revelation of the referred Surah, but was actually a young girl, not even only an infant at that time. So if this age is assumed to be 7 to 14 years then her age at the time of marriage would be 14 to 21.

According to almost all the historians, Asma the elder sister of Aisha, was ten years older than Aisha. It is reported in Taqreeb al-Tehzeeb as well as Al-Bidayah wa al-Nihayah that Asma died in the 73rd year after migration of Muhammad when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma was 100 years old in the 73rd year after Migration to Medina, she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of migration. If Asma was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Aisha should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, Aisha - if she got married in 1 AH (after Migration to Medina) or 2 AH - was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.


Some education for you---

Islam is like this.

Number one is the koran...you cant find any evidence that koran endorse and condone pedophilia!!!

Number two is the sunna - practices/actions/performance their prophet...

Number three is the hadiths - written traditions of practices/actions/performance prophet

BTW when i talk about pedophilia i talk about present time only in USA not world wide  and you talking about someting that hapened before more than 1000 years!!!
 
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 24, 2009, 01:23:27 PM
I'm pretty sure that's a picture of Mohammed. You know, the guy who fucked a six year old girl and paved the way for thousands of years of child rape?

Regardless, the practices of catholics and rabbis pale in comparison to female genital mutilation, which is heavily practiced by almost every group of Muslims. It usually involves a girl (most likely under the age of 10) being held down in public by 3-5 men while another man severs her clitoris and clitoral hood. He then stitches her vagina just about closed. All without the use of sterile equipment or anesthetic. I mean, it really makes them not have sex or anything, right?   ::)

Nevermind, women are nothing more than rape objects and glorified slaves to most Muslims. Move along gimmick.

HAHAHA. You're so full of shit. Where did you hear this?  From your military brainwash videos or FOX news?  Get a life fucktard.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2009, 01:25:55 PM
Some haddith say she is 9 years some 13,14, 21...

According to hadith in Bukhari and Muslim, Aisha is said to have joined Muhammad on the raid that culminated in the Battle of Badr, in 624 CE. However, because no one below the age of 15 was allowed to accompany raiding parties, Aisha should have been at least 15 in 624 CE and thus at least 13 when she was married following the Hijra in 622 CE.

Ibn Hisham’s recension of Ibn Ishaq’s Sirat Rashul Allah, the earliest surviving biography of Muhammad, records Aisha as having converted to Islam before Umar ibn al-Khattab, during the first few years of Islam around 610 CE. In order to accept Islam she must have been walking and talking, hence at least three years of age, which would make her at least 15 in 622 CE.

According to the generally accepted tradition, Aisha was born about eight years before Hijrah. However, according to another narrative in Bukhari (Kitaab al-Tafseer) Aisha is reported to have said that at the time Surah Al-Qamar, the 54th chapter of the Qur’an , was revealed, “I was a young girl”. The 54th Surah of the Qur’an was revealed nine years before Hijrah. According to this tradition, Aisha had not only been born before the revelation of the referred Surah, but was actually a young girl, not even only an infant at that time. So if this age is assumed to be 7 to 14 years then her age at the time of marriage would be 14 to 21.

According to almost all the historians, Asma the elder sister of Aisha, was ten years older than Aisha. It is reported in Taqreeb al-Tehzeeb as well as Al-Bidayah wa al-Nihayah that Asma died in the 73rd year after migration of Muhammad when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma was 100 years old in the 73rd year after Migration to Medina, she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of migration. If Asma was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Aisha should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, Aisha - if she got married in 1 AH (after Migration to Medina) or 2 AH - was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.


Some education for you---

Islam is like this.

Number one is the koran...you cant find any evidence that koran endorse and condone pedophilia!!!

Number two is the sunna - practices/actions/performance their prophet...

Number three is the hadiths - written traditions of practices/actions/performance prophet

BTW when i talk about pedophilia i talk about present time only in USA not world wide  and you talking about someting that hapened before more than 1000 years!!!
 

You're already flat out lying in the first sentence. He married her at six and then supposedly deflowered her at 9. But most scholars (who aren't biased Muslims trying to save face) will admit that he most likely deflowered her before then.

And again, you talking about pedophilia in the US has nothing to do with the fact the Islam endorses and condones pedophilia. You seem to have a hard time wrapping your head around the fact that pedophilia is illegal and frowned upon here while Muslims will pat you on the back for bedding a six year old girl. There are thousands of instances of 50-something year old men taking girls under the age of 10 as their wives. But wait, let me guess, they enjoy their company and aren't sleeping with them? Right?

You guys always try to play off the Hadith whenever the pedophilia issue comes up.
HAHAHA. You're so full of shit. Where did you hear this?  From your military brainwash videos or FOX news?  Get a life fucktard.

Fox News? Do a little reading. If you're not too busy ripping out of your Baby Gap t-shirts from carbing up, my dipshit friend.  ::)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 24, 2009, 01:27:24 PM
The koran makes pretty good toilet paper.  I've gone thru several.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 24, 2009, 01:28:35 PM
I got this a couple of days ago.

Obey the rules.

what the fuck is that?  No religion should ever interfere with the practices of others.  I believe you can jerk off in front of a muslim during Ramadan.  Are we all supposed to be muslims just because some camel jockey is "irritated and dehydrated"?
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: DK II on August 24, 2009, 01:42:06 PM
The koran makes pretty good toilet paper.  I've gone thru several.

good point, i have to try that.

the bible always scratches my ass and the thora stinks.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 01:45:49 PM
You're already flat out lying in the first sentence. He married her at six and then supposedly deflowered her at 9. But most scholars (who aren't biased Muslims trying to save face) will admit that he most likely deflowered her before then.

And again, you talking about pedophilia in the US has nothing to do with the fact the Islam endorses and condones pedophilia. You seem to have a hard time wrapping your head around the fact that pedophilia is illegal and frowned upon here while Muslims will pat you on the back for bedding a six year old girl. There are thousands of instances of 50-something year old men taking girls under the age of 10 as their wives. But wait, let me guess, they enjoy their company and aren't sleeping with them? Right?

You guys always try to play off the Hadith whenever the pedophilia issue comes up.
Fox News? Do a little reading. If you're not too busy ripping out of your Baby Gap t-shirts from carbing up, my dipshit friend.  ::)

My dear stupid friend...
Is it so difficult to understand that you talk about something that maybe hapened before 1000 and more years and i talk about present time...now tell me in  which  country you can legally marry 9 years old girl?
Why we dont have 10000000 reports about imams raping kids in USA,UK,GERMANY,FRANCE and other western countries???
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: DK II on August 24, 2009, 01:49:39 PM
My dear stupid friend...
Is it so difficult to understand that you talk about something that maybe hapened before 1000 and more years and i talk about present time...now tell me in  which  country you can legally marry 9 years old girl?
Why we dont have 10000000 reports about imams raping kids in USA,UK,GERMANY,FRANCE and other western countries???

Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia?
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2009, 01:51:51 PM
My dear stupid friend...
Is it so difficult to understand that you talk about something that maybe hapened before 1000 and more years and i talk about present time...now tell me in  which  country you can legally marry 9 years old girl?
Why we dont have 10000000 reports about imams raping kids in USA,UK,GERMANY,FRANCE and other western countries???

My dear stupid friend,

Is it so difficult to understand that I'm not talking about Mohammed himself, but the point that him marrying and sleeping with a six year old laid the groundwork for thousands of years of legalized child rape. What is so hard for you to understand? Catholicism does not endorse or condone pedophilia. Hell, it's even outlawed in this country. Meanwhile, Islam's holy books actually endorse it and the actions of Mohammed justify it. You tried to liken the actions of Catholic priests (acting on their own will and not the Bible's) to the Koran. You failed miserably.

The Catholic equivalent of your prophet did not sleep with children.  ;)

Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia?

LOL. Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Jordan, Turkey, Syria. The list is endless. Iran's supreme leader even wrote a book where he all but ordered shiite men to go out and sleep with children.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 24, 2009, 01:54:20 PM
I bet this sele bitch wears one of those dresses that covers his face too. 
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 24, 2009, 01:54:41 PM
My dear stupid friend,

Is it so difficult to understand that I'm not talking about Mohammed himself, but the point that him marrying and sleeping with a six year old laid the groundwork for thousands of years of legalized child rape. What is so hard for you to understand? Catholicism does not endorse or condone pedophilia. Hell, it's even outlawed in this country. Meanwhile, Islam's holy books actually endorse it and the actions of Mohammed justify it. You tried to liken the actions of Catholic priests (acting on their own will and not the Bible's) to the Koran. You failed miserably.

LOL. Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Jordan, Turkey, Syria. The list is endless. Iran's supreme leader even wrote a book where he all but ordered shiite men to go out and sleep with children.


BF owning the shit out of this filthy Islamic scum.  Hopefully he will be dead soon
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: DK II on August 24, 2009, 01:56:07 PM
let's just make this short and say islam sucks, ok?
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 24, 2009, 01:59:54 PM
Maybe sele blew himself up?  Surely not the first guy he has "blown."
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 24, 2009, 02:28:14 PM
Maybe sele blew himself up?  Surely not the first guy he has "blown."

Perhaps Sele is busy observing RamADongup my ass with all of his Islamic buddies ?
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 02:34:14 PM
My dear stupid friend,

Is it so difficult to understand that I'm not talking about Mohammed himself, but the point that him marrying and sleeping with a six year old laid the groundwork for thousands of years of legalized child rape. What is so hard for you to understand? Catholicism does not endorse or condone pedophilia. Hell, it's even outlawed in this country. Meanwhile, Islam's holy books actually endorse it and the actions of Mohammed justify it. You tried to liken the actions of Catholic priests (acting on their own will and not the Bible's) to the Koran. You failed miserably.

LOL. Iran, Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Jordan, Turkey, Syria. The list is endless. Iran's supreme leader even wrote a book where he all but ordered shiite men to go out and sleep with children.


Holy book is only koran and not hadiths!!!
I like muslim belive only in what is written in koran.Hadits wrote many people     through the years and hadits is more their interpretation of things that happend.

I gave you hadiths that she was older than 9 years...why you dont belive in that hadiths ?

Ok  your religion dont condone pedophilia an islam condone...tell my then why dont we have 100000 reports about imams pedophils in western  countries?
Something is wrong here...dont you think !?

Let se usa laws:
New Hampshire:
A female below the age of 13 and a male below the age of 14 are not allowed to marry under any conditions. So you can marry 13 year old girl...sorry but that is pedophilia for me.

South Carolina:  The minimum age for a female is 14 and it is 16 for a male.

Michigan: Applicants under the age of 15 with parental consent and probate court permission.

Minnesota: Applicants younger than 15 needs the written consent of a parent of guardian and the consent of a juvenile court judge.

Missouri: A person under age 15 cannot marry without approval of a judge in the county where the marriage license is sought.

In mine 60% muslim country minimum age is 18 years!!!

Now for litlle education for my stupid fried legal minimum marriage age  source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age

Turkey: 18, 17 with parental consent, 16 in special circumstances with court approval.

Iran: 18, 15 with parental consent.

Pakistan: 18 for males, 16 for females both with parental consent.

Yemen: 17

Jordan: 16 for males and 15 for females, lunar calendar; court permission required for females under 18 to marry men older by 20 years or more.

Syria: 18 for males and 17 for females; judicial discretion for males of 15 and females of 13; judge may withhold permission for marriage if court finds incompatibility in age between betrothed parties


Ohhh mine friend you are su stupid that hurts!!!
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 24, 2009, 02:40:28 PM
Holy book is only koran and not hadiths!!!
I like muslim belive only in what is written in koran.Hadits wrote many people     through the years and hadits is more their interpretation of things that happend.

I gave you hadiths that she was older than 9 years...why you dont belive in that hadiths ?

Ok  your religion dont condone pedophilia an islam condone...tell my then why dont we have 100000 reports about imams pedophils in western  countries?
Something is wrong here...dont you think !?

Let se usa laws:
New Hampshire:
A female below the age of 13 and a male below the age of 14 are not allowed to marry under any conditions. So you can marry 13 year old girl...sorry but that is pedophilia for me.

South Carolina:  The minimum age for a female is 14 and it is 16 for a male.

Michigan: Applicants under the age of 15 with parental consent and probate court permission.

Minnesota: Applicants younger than 15 needs the written consent of a parent of guardian and the consent of a juvenile court judge.

Missouri: A person under age 15 cannot marry without approval of a judge in the county where the marriage license is sought.

In mine 60% muslim country minimum age is 18 years!!!

Now for litlle education for my stupid fried legal minimum marriage age  source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriageable_age

Turkey: 18, 17 with parental consent, 16 in special circumstances with court approval.

Iran: 18, 15 with parental consent.

Pakistan: 18 for males, 16 for females both with parental consent.

Yemen: 17

Jordan: 16 for males and 15 for females, lunar calendar; court permission required for females under 18 to marry men older by 20 years or more.

Syria: 18 for males and 17 for females; judicial discretion for males of 15 and females of 13; judge may withhold permission for marriage if court finds incompatibility in age between betrothed parties


Ohhh mine friend you are su stupid that hurts!!!


you sound mildly retarded.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 02:43:18 PM
Perhaps Sele is busy observing RamADongup my ass with all of his Islamic buddies ?


6240 OF BULSHIT POST...SO PATHETIC!!!
WE SHOULD OPEN CHILD BOARD JUST FOR YOU SO YOU CAN POST YOUR  SMART  ONE SENTENCE.
Please go to www.mental-illness-in-Children.com and help yourself  ;D
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: DK II on August 24, 2009, 02:47:44 PM
you sound mildly retarded.

i would be aggressive if i had to walk around in a dress an kiss other guys for a greeting, yet when you talk to a female (who is dressed like a ninja) you get a beating with a whip.

(http://www.discobauer.at/images/scheich.jpg)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 02:48:50 PM
you sound mildly retarded.

And you have 10237 posts in Gossip & Opinions part of this forum consisting of mostly one-sentence...enough said about  your mental healthy  ;D
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: DK II on August 24, 2009, 02:49:32 PM
And you have 10237 posts in Gossip & Opinions part of this forum consisting of mostly one-sentence...enough said about  your mental healthy  ;D

oh boy, that doesn't work here.

you will have to try harder.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: kiwiol on August 24, 2009, 02:56:52 PM
i would be aggressive if i had to walk around in a dress an kiss other guys for a greeting, yet when you talk to a female (who is dressed like a ninja) you get a beating with a whip.

(http://www.discobauer.at/images/scheich.jpg)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 24, 2009, 02:59:14 PM

6240 OF BULSHIT POST...SO PATHETIC!!!
WE SHOULD OPEN CHILD BOARD JUST FOR YOU SO YOU CAN POST YOUR  SMART  ONE SENTENCE.
Please go to www.mental-illness-in-Children.com and help yourself  ;D

Typical rantings of a brainwashed zealot
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 24, 2009, 03:04:51 PM
And you have 10237 posts in Gossip & Opinions part of this forum consisting of mostly one-sentence...enough said about  your mental healthy  ;D

Oh brother, you say that like it's a bad thing Abdullah.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Fury on August 24, 2009, 03:06:59 PM
You can post ages and laws all you want. As we all know, in the world of Islam they don't mean jack shit. Honor killings and rape are illegal, yet we're constantly hearing stories about them (and how no one is ever found guilty of them). But hey, toot your horn about the laws all you want.

Meanwhile, Ayatollah Khomeini, the top Shia authority in Iran stated in his book from 1990, the Tehriro Vasyleh, fourth edition: “A Muslim man can have sexual pleasure with a little girl as young as a baby. But he should not penetrate her vaginally, however he can sodomize her”.

I'm sorry, I was saying that he endorsed child rape when in reality he only endorses anal raping babies. My bad.  ::)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 03:11:21 PM
Typical rantings of a brainwashed zealot

Only typical thing here is your stupidity my child...you need help and we have to establish getbig community for treatment of retarded and brainwashed members or you can just try to finish your elementary education.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 24, 2009, 03:12:53 PM
Only typical thing here is your stupidity my child...you need help and we have to establish getbig community for treatment of retarded and brainwashed members or you can just try to finish your elementary education.

You are a Homo
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 24, 2009, 03:13:37 PM
You are a Homo

haha, clear and concise.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: kiwiol on August 24, 2009, 03:17:10 PM
Only typical thing here is your stupidity my child...you need help and we have to establish getbig community for treatment of retarded and brainwashed members or you can just try to finish your elementary education.

You blindly follow / do everything that your religion tells you, yet call him brainwashed? ::)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 24, 2009, 03:20:55 PM
haha, clear and concise.

You wouldn't be implying that "Sele" can shoot a soccer ball out of his ass and score a goal from mid-field, would you, Mr. stoppa ?
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 03:24:58 PM
You can post ages and laws all you want. As we all know, in the world of Islam they don't mean jack shit. Honor killings and rape are illegal, yet we're constantly hearing stories about them (and how no one is ever found guilty of them). But hey, toot your horn about the laws all you want.

Meanwhile, Ayatollah Khomeini, the top Shia authority in Iran stated in his book from 1990, the Tehriro Vasyleh, fourth edition: “A Muslim man can have sexual pleasure with a little girl as young as a baby. But he should not penetrate her vaginally, however he can sodomize her”.

I'm sorry, I was saying that he endorsed child rape when in reality he only endorses anal raping babies. My bad.  ::)

Can you answer on mine explanations?
I gave you fact from sites that is not some islamic sites.You cant marry 13 year old or younger girl in that countries which you mentioned legally!!!

You can marry girl with 13 years in USA legally...SO YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITH 13 YEARS OLD GIRL!!!

And you talk to me about some Ayatollah Khomeini who have no idea who he is in general.
BTW try to google some    independent sources even chatolic one for true information  and not this trashing sites like islam review!!!
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 03:47:56 PM
You wouldn't be implying that "Sele" can shoot a soccer ball out of his ass and score a goal from mid-field, would you, Mr. stoppa ?

What...you are trying to be romantic with Mr.stoppa no no "Showstoppa" already have boyfriend and your shooting of soccer ball out of your ass doesn't impresses him because he is in love in his boyfriend  ;D

This is your level of thinking so you se how this sentence is stupid my child  ;D
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: ksa_triceps on August 24, 2009, 03:48:53 PM
i would be aggressive if i had to walk around in a dress an kiss other guys for a greeting, yet when you talk to a female (who is dressed like a ninja) you get a beating with a whip.

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nonsense! i believe i look rather stud-like when i'm in my local thobe  ;D

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t25/ait_z28/DSC09015.jpg)

and no one kisses, you just rub cheeks. i avoid it at all costs though.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: ksa_triceps on August 24, 2009, 03:54:29 PM
What...you are trying to be romantic with Mr.stoppa no no "Showstoppa" already have boyfriend and your shooting of soccer ball out of your ass doesn't impresses him because he is in love in his boyfriend  ;D

This is your level of thinking so you se how this sentence is stupid my child  ;D



getbig is the cyber world leader in Islam/women/blacks and ironically pro bodybuilders bashing. i believe you should rest your case, as i have.

i'm intrigued to know where you come from?
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 03:59:02 PM

getbig is the cyber world leader in Islam/women/blacks and ironically pro bodybuilders bashing. i believe you should rest your case, as i have.

I know that because im here from 2005 but i have to have fun sometime  ;D




i'm intrigued to know where you come from?

Red color on pics  ;D
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: ksa_triceps on August 24, 2009, 04:06:53 PM
I know that because im here from 2005 but i have to have fun sometime  ;D

Red color on pics  ;D

aah, very nice to meet you. you're the ones that fought the Serbs. i would've know where you are without a map though  :)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 24, 2009, 04:09:16 PM
What...you are trying to be romantic with Mr.stoppa no no "Showstoppa" already have boyfriend and your shooting of soccer ball out of your ass doesn't impresses him because he is in love in his boyfriend  ;D

This is your level of thinking so you se how this sentence is stupid my child  ;D


Well, your sentence is stupid...I'll agree to that.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 04:12:39 PM
Well, your sentence is stupid...I'll agree to that.

Thank god We have Progress FINALLY  ::)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 24, 2009, 04:22:27 PM
aah, very nice to meet you. you're the ones that fought the Serbs. i would've know where you are without a map though  :)

I would say fight with part of serbian people that have "nazi thinking".
I have many friends serbians that think like everybody normal that human is human and that you dont have to kill someone because he  have difrent name or religion!!!

Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 24, 2009, 04:40:28 PM
Muslim Muscle Machine  :D :D

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you are a pudgy little turd
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: ksa_triceps on August 24, 2009, 04:49:22 PM
Muslim Muscle Machine  :D :D



you are a pudgy little turd

are there things Groink?
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 24, 2009, 04:50:54 PM
are there things Groink?

There are many things KSA  ;D

Sele is a BEAST

OOPs my bad...that's you.

sorry. you are documented as looking pretty good
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: ksa_triceps on August 24, 2009, 04:59:53 PM
There are many things KSA  ;D

Sele is a BEAST

OOPs my bad...that's you.

sorry. you are documented as looking pretty good

no worries great Groink.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: ManBearPig... on August 24, 2009, 05:30:53 PM
I know that because im here from 2005 but i have to have fun sometime  ;D

Red color on pics  ;D

me and El Mariachi got the Bosnian angle covered.  Please fuck off to somewhere else, you're embarassing us.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: garebear on August 24, 2009, 06:19:46 PM
I would say fight with part of serbian people that have "nazi thinking".
I have many friends serbians that think like everybody normal that human is human and that you dont have to kill someone because he  have difrent name or religion!!!



Why do Muslims murder so many innocent people?
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 25, 2009, 01:15:35 AM
Why do Muslims murder so many innocent people?

You are in Afghanistan...ask them  ::)
And btw your question is so stupid and general.
I cant belive that men of your inteligence send in Afghanistan.
You are arrogant  idiot  ;D

Why white men murdered so much indians?
Why USA attacked Vietnam and killed so many innocent people?
Why Christian church murdered so many innocent people in Crusades?
Why is 620,000 soldier killed in USA civil war?
Why are the white Americans kept blacks people as  slaves, kill them tortured...?
Bla bla bla...

Muslims dont murder inocent people christians dont murder inocent people...no religion advocate murder...problem is intentionall misinterpretation of religion    by bad and ill people and human brain that is easily brainwashed and lack of education.
Would you easily persuaded some farmers to kill someone or someone who graduated from the Faculty?
I can draw from every religion, some words and reverse them to my advantage and if i hate americans and if i have enough fools WITH lack of education OR SOME GETBIGERS to listen BOOOM  ;D
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 25, 2009, 01:23:28 AM
me and El Mariachi got the Bosnian angle covered.  Please fuck off to somewhere else, you're embarassing us.

Speak when I tell you, skinny bitch  8)
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: garebear on August 25, 2009, 02:03:04 AM
You are in Afghanistan...ask them  ::)
And btw your question is so stupid and general.
I cant belive that men of your inteligence send in Afghanistan.
You are arrogant  idiot  ;D

Why white men murdered so much indians?
Why USA attacked Vietnam and killed so many innocent people?
Why Christian church murdered so many innocent people in Crusades?
Why is 620,000 soldier killed in USA civil war?
Why are the white Americans kept blacks people as  slaves, kill them tortured...?
Bla bla bla...

Muslims dont murder inocent people christians dont murder inocent people...no religion advocate murder...problem is intentionall misinterpretation of religion    by bad and ill people and human brain that is easily brainwashed and lack of education.
Would you easily persuaded some farmers to kill someone or someone who graduated from the Faculty?
I can draw from every religion, some words and reverse them to my advantage and if i hate americans and if i have enough fools WITH lack of education OR SOME GETBIGERS to listen BOOOM  ;D

I can't ask those questions because that was long ago and all of those people are gone. I am an atheist, so I don't even know where you're going with that. Christians are not murdering innocent people now, at least not the people I care about, and nowhere near the numbers that Muslims are. If Christians were making threats against Americans, I would be glad to fight them as well. But that's not the way it is.

Muslims even kill other Muslims, children. They bombed near the ISAF headquarters a couple of weeks ago and they know kids always walk around there. It's an evil, sick and twisted cult of death andwant oppression. I've seen it with my own eyes. You really ought to examine your own conscience and come to a better conclusion.

When you can celebrate the murder of children, your own children, it's time to take a step back. When superstitions supercede humanity, it's time to reaximine.

You can dress it up in history all you want. You're not fooling anyone but yourself. Ever heard of a Buddhist suicide bomber?
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 25, 2009, 02:27:50 AM
You talk about Afghanistan.
Are you aware that Muslims do not live only in Afghanistan?
Are you aware that you have muslims in USA?
Do you think they are ready to be suicide bombers?
Have you ever heard of Religious Extremism?
You arrogant  shit  ;D

Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: garebear on August 25, 2009, 02:46:37 AM
You talk about Afghanistan.
Are you aware that Muslims do not live only in Afghanistan?
Are you aware that you have muslims in USA?
Do you think they are ready to be suicide bombers?
Have you ever heard of Religious Extremism?
You arrogant  shit  ;D


Yes, I know that there are non Muslims here. I've heard that they have to pay a tax just to exist, don't know if that's true or not. I'm sure the Taliban was real understanding of them before the US showed up.
I've also read polls about the Muslims in America overwhelmingly believing that Jews were responsible for 9/11.
Let's face it, the Muslims in America are there for the political freedoms and the money. They don't give a frog's fat ass about the country. Nowhere in the modern world is any group of people so intolerant of others. You know it's true.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 25, 2009, 02:52:47 AM
For your education  8)

In Islam, several things are clear:
Suicide is forbidden.  "O ye who believe!... [do not] kill yourselves, for truly Allah has been to you Most Merciful.  If any do that in rancour and injustice, soon shall We cast him into the Fire..." (Qur'an 4:29-30).

The taking of life is allowed only by way of justice (i.e. the death penalty for murder), but even then, forgiveness is better.  "Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause..." (17:33).


In pre-Islamic Arabia, retaliation and mass murder was commonplace.  If someone was killed, the victim's tribe would retaliate against the murderer's entire tribe.  This practice was directly forbidden in the Qur'an (2:178-179).  Following this statement of law, the Qur'an says, "After this, whoever exceeds the limits shall be in grave chastisement" (2:178).  No matter what wrong we perceive as being done against us, we may not lash out against an entire population of people.

The Qur'an admonishes those who oppress others and transgress beyond the bounds of what is right and just.  "The blame is only against those who oppress men with wrongdoing and insolently transgress beyond bounds through the land, defying right and justice.  For such there will be a chastisement grievous (in the Hereafter)" (42:42).


Harming innocent bystanders, even in times of war, was forbidden by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).  This includes women, children, noncombatant bystanders, and even trees and crops.  Nothing is to be harmed unless the person or thing is actively engaged in an assault against Muslims.


The predominant theme in the Qur'an is forgiveness and peace.  Allah (God) is Merciful and Forgiving, and seeks that in His followers.  Indeed, most people who spend time on a personal level with ordinary Muslims have found them to be peaceful, honest, hard-working, civic-minded people.

"O ye who believe!  Remain steadfast for Allah, bearing witness to justice.  Do not allow your hatred for others make you swerve to wrongdoing and turn you away from justice.  Be just; that is closer to true piety."

- Qur'an, Surah al-Maidah (5:8)

The entire Qur'an, taken as a complete text, gives a message of hope, faith, and peace to a faith community of one billion people. The overwhelming message is that peace is to be found through faith in God, and justice among fellow human beings.

And if anyone saves a life,
it would be as if he saved the life of all people.
Qur'an 5:32

he recompense for an injury
is an injury equal thereto (in degree),
but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation,
his reward is due from God,
for God loves not those who do wrong.
But indeed, if any do help and defend themselves
after a wrong done to them,
against such there is no cause of blame.
The blame is only against those who oppress men
with wrongdoing and insolently transgress
beyond bounds through the land,
defying right and justice.
For such there will be a penalty grievous (in the Hereafter).
But indeed, if any show patience and forgive,
that would truly be an affair of great resolution.
Qur'an 42:40-43

For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: "slay them wherever you catch them" (Qur'an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are "they" that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).

It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back -- but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.


For the record, the inhuman attacks of September 11 were condemned in the strongest terms by virtually all Islamic leaders, organizations, and countries. TheGrand Mufti of Saudi Arabia summarized that, "...hijacking planes, terrorizing innocent people and shedding blood, constitute a form of injustice that cannot be tolerated by Islam, which views them as gross crimes and sinful acts.

and this is the way that 99% of muslims think but arrogant idiots like you thinks that all muslim are same
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 25, 2009, 03:04:06 AM

They don't give a frog's fat ass about the country. Nowhere in the modern world is any group of people so intolerant of others. You know it's true.

Many people born in America dont care about country so what?
You think that somebody   who came  from El Salvador,Cuba,Mexico, China,Philippines, India,Dominican Republic... care much about country???

Noooooo just muslims hate USA bulshit!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: garebear on August 25, 2009, 04:25:42 AM
Many people born in America dont care about country so what?
You think that somebody   who came  from El Salvador,Cuba,Mexico, China,Philippines, India,Dominican Republic... care much about country???

Noooooo just muslims hate USA bulshit!!!!!!!!

They're not flying planes into buildings.

Where do you live?
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 25, 2009, 04:38:48 AM
They're not flying planes into buildings.

Where do you live?

By your logic, everyone who  faith is  Islam is to blame for september 11.
Couple crazy muslim extremist crash plane in building in USA and you blame every  muslim for that?
You blame me for that  ::)

very shallow thinking
I REST MINE CASE because i cant talk with somebody that have such shallow way of thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 25, 2009, 04:46:36 AM
BTW in USA army is estimat. 15,000 soldiers whose faith is Islam.
I Guess they are all terrorists  ::)

Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 25, 2009, 04:57:47 AM
sele = brainwashed simpleton
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: sele137 on August 25, 2009, 05:04:06 AM
sele = brainwashed simpleton

Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: The Showstoppa on August 25, 2009, 08:19:58 AM
Very true sele...glad you acknowledge how stupid you and your filthy religion are.
Title: Re: Ramadan???
Post by: garebear on August 25, 2009, 06:42:26 PM
For your education  8)

In Islam, several things are clear:
Suicide is forbidden.  "O ye who believe!... [do not] kill yourselves, for truly Allah has been to you Most Merciful.  If any do that in rancour and injustice, soon shall We cast him into the Fire..." (Qur'an 4:29-30).

The taking of life is allowed only by way of justice (i.e. the death penalty for murder), but even then, forgiveness is better.  "Nor take life - which Allah has made sacred - except for just cause..." (17:33).


In pre-Islamic Arabia, retaliation and mass murder was commonplace.  If someone was killed, the victim's tribe would retaliate against the murderer's entire tribe.  This practice was directly forbidden in the Qur'an (2:178-179).  Following this statement of law, the Qur'an says, "After this, whoever exceeds the limits shall be in grave chastisement" (2:178).  No matter what wrong we perceive as being done against us, we may not lash out against an entire population of people.

The Qur'an admonishes those who oppress others and transgress beyond the bounds of what is right and just.  "The blame is only against those who oppress men with wrongdoing and insolently transgress beyond bounds through the land, defying right and justice.  For such there will be a chastisement grievous (in the Hereafter)" (42:42).


Harming innocent bystanders, even in times of war, was forbidden by the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).  This includes women, children, noncombatant bystanders, and even trees and crops.  Nothing is to be harmed unless the person or thing is actively engaged in an assault against Muslims.


The predominant theme in the Qur'an is forgiveness and peace.  Allah (God) is Merciful and Forgiving, and seeks that in His followers.  Indeed, most people who spend time on a personal level with ordinary Muslims have found them to be peaceful, honest, hard-working, civic-minded people.

"O ye who believe!  Remain steadfast for Allah, bearing witness to justice.  Do not allow your hatred for others make you swerve to wrongdoing and turn you away from justice.  Be just; that is closer to true piety."

- Qur'an, Surah al-Maidah (5:8)

The entire Qur'an, taken as a complete text, gives a message of hope, faith, and peace to a faith community of one billion people. The overwhelming message is that peace is to be found through faith in God, and justice among fellow human beings.

And if anyone saves a life,
it would be as if he saved the life of all people.
Qur'an 5:32

he recompense for an injury
is an injury equal thereto (in degree),
but if a person forgives and makes reconciliation,
his reward is due from God,
for God loves not those who do wrong.
But indeed, if any do help and defend themselves
after a wrong done to them,
against such there is no cause of blame.
The blame is only against those who oppress men
with wrongdoing and insolently transgress
beyond bounds through the land,
defying right and justice.
For such there will be a penalty grievous (in the Hereafter).
But indeed, if any show patience and forgive,
that would truly be an affair of great resolution.
Qur'an 42:40-43

For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: "slay them wherever you catch them" (Qur'an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are "they" that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:

"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter... But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful... If they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression" (2:190-193).

It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back -- but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.


For the record, the inhuman attacks of September 11 were condemned in the strongest terms by virtually all Islamic leaders, organizations, and countries. TheGrand Mufti of Saudi Arabia summarized that, "...hijacking planes, terrorizing innocent people and shedding blood, constitute a form of injustice that cannot be tolerated by Islam, which views them as gross crimes and sinful acts.

and this is the way that 99% of muslims think but arrogant idiots like you thinks that all muslim are same


 At least 41 people were killed, all civilians, officials said.

"Once again they've killed children, women, innocent Afghans.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090826/ap_on_re_as/as_afghan_violence;_ylt=AgXVfwL4P3ZFmRDmQ8PMYlys0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTFob3VvdmkzBHBvcwMyNwRzZWMDYWNjb3JkaW9uX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNjYXJib21iYmxhc3Q-