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Title: Npp and tren a
Post by: VEDMED on October 26, 2015, 10:56:54 AM
I'm 28, 205lbs, 12%bf. Been working out for 11 years. Cycling for 4. Bulked up and built the base natty in prison (only thing shitholes good for)
My question, I was running 700mg npp/wk with 750 test sust/wk, switched to 700tren ace/ week with the750 sust. Not the first time running either of these. I liked the bulk from the npp, but I kinda like the tren sides and the "look". Blasting and cruising at this point.
Caber .5mg 2x a week
Adex .25 EOD (not gyno prone at all)

How we feelin about running the tren and the npp together? Maybe 525/525 of 350/350 a week with the test. I've been waiting to get approved on this board, because you even THINK about mentioning 2 19-nors together on any other board, they LOSE their shit. Looking for some decent input.

Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Jizmo on October 26, 2015, 11:10:02 AM
ive said this before and will say it again, test/tren/npp are the 3 best injectable compounds that exist and together theyre a great stack.

ive ran npp, tren and methyltren (so 3 19nors) in high doses (together with high test) before and didnt have any more issues than usually with AI/low dose SERM and just vitamin b6 as prolactin control

you wont have any issues at all with 1mg caber a week.
id double up on your adex though.
high estro exacerbates prolactin sides
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: VEDMED on October 26, 2015, 11:20:07 AM
I was hoping you'd chime in bro. I'll double up the ai, thanx
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: pestosterone on October 26, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
That's probly enough ai with 350 test week, for me it would b anyway.  Even with npp and tren works good btw.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: VEDMED on October 26, 2015, 11:49:48 AM
I'm not gyno prone at all, never had puffy nips, none of that, I just throw it in there as kind of a preventative measure, to be bumped up as- needed. I like high-er test too, even with tren.

I'm thinking now 350tren,350npp, 750 test to be bumped up as needed
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Jizmo on October 26, 2015, 01:33:43 PM
That's probly enough ai with 350 test week, for me it would b anyway.  Even with npp and tren works good btw.
yeah but as i understood hes running 750 test and for that id use at least 0.25mg adex
i currently use 1mg adex a day on 1g of test (with tren/npp btw ;)). id rather use a bit too much than a bit too little UNLESS i get joint issues


i think youll be underwhelmed if you hop from 700 tren to 350tren/350npp though. i would run 750/1g test with both 500mg tren ace and npp

tren and npp somehow work synergistically regarding IGF levels... i dont remember exactly but both somehow increase local muscle igf production via different pathways and together they work synergistically in even increasing muscle cell sensitivity to igf/insulin too. 
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: pestosterone on October 26, 2015, 02:46:04 PM
Yea I read it wrong. ^^ yes too much ai and my elbows and knees r fucked
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: herraisland on October 27, 2015, 10:41:32 AM
NPP/tren/test was my favorite mix.... maaan did i grow... But then i got introduced to Trestolone about 3months ago... its been my fav since :)
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: aleksis on October 27, 2015, 01:43:13 PM
Whst so special about trestolone that is ur fav now ???
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: spiro on October 27, 2015, 03:16:52 PM
I'm in love with test Npp masteron or test deca masteron. I need to throw in some tren but the sides I get are super harsh. Skyrockets my bp.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: jb14972 on October 27, 2015, 04:20:50 PM
I'm in love with test Npp masteron or test deca masteron. I need to throw in some tren but the sides I get are super harsh. Skyrockets my bp.


yea man i have been wanting to through in some mast with my test deca cycle. it just seems like the perfect addition. all this npp talk has me wanting to switch deca to npp also
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: heenok on October 28, 2015, 02:08:19 AM
I'm in love with test Npp masteron or test deca masteron. I need to throw in some tren but the sides I get are super harsh. Skyrockets my bp.

Im on test E/mast E/NPP/oral winstrol
Loving it, best ive ever looked !

Only downside is the joint pain from winny, but its so much more powerful than var.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Core on October 28, 2015, 02:19:07 AM
test
tren
npp
masteron

amazing things happen when these 4 are circulating your body in effective doses and you're training every day. something happens to the muscle when it's pumped, it just looks so much more 3d than with any other combo. i cant even imagine what adding a little gh in would do. best stack i ever ran was 100mg npp tren and masteron with zero test on 2-3 clean meals a day and training at 7am every morning before breakfast. winning combo.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: f450 on October 28, 2015, 09:00:52 AM
NPP/tren/test was my favorite mix.... maaan did i grow... But then i got introduced to Trestolone about 3months ago... its been my fav since :)

why? what does it better. Just curious.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: herraisland on October 28, 2015, 11:25:15 AM
why? what does it better. Just curious.

even its my favorite, it might not be yours too... i was looking for something to make be ''bigger,'' to gain some kilos. I was stuck at 98kg and i was doing a lot of tren, npp and test about 1gr of tren, 1gr of npp and 750mg of test... I just couldnt get over 98kg(216lbs). then i switched to trest, doing 75mg EOD and 50mg test p EOD, within month i got up to 106kg(233lbs) with the same fat percent. im not joking... its unbelievable. gained 8kg under month after switching to Trestolone. Also i did use 2mg Adex EOD with it.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: pestosterone on October 28, 2015, 11:48:35 AM
Damn 2mg adex eod?
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Jizmo on October 28, 2015, 12:13:29 PM
trestolone is like injecting estrogen

and why do you want all that water? pretty pointless imo
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: spiro on October 28, 2015, 05:32:20 PM
I've heard from several people trest is amazing shit. It's like a mix of deca and tren. Id like to source some.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: herraisland on October 29, 2015, 12:55:32 PM
trestolone is like injecting estrogen

and why do you want all that water? pretty pointless imo


Water weight ain't that big deal. I stopped the trest in the middle of October and I'm sitting at 102kg. I look much better now. I acompliced my goal got over 100kg, soon in November I'm going to bring my fat percent to single digit.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Irishmuscle89 on October 29, 2015, 03:40:46 PM
Id run tren 700-1000
Test prop 250ish
Npp 600-800
Throw in a letro once or twice a week for water or itchy/puffy nipples
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: VEDMED on October 29, 2015, 04:54:00 PM
I dunno, I like the high test with it. Been at 525 tren 525 npp and 750 test for about a week, I'm telling you I can feel it/see it already. I'm buying new shirts if this shit keeps up
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Gainsi on November 07, 2015, 12:39:21 AM
Ive been pondering on whether to run test e/tren e with deca or/and eq with my
Gh. My favourite is low test prop high tren ace eq with epi anadrol gh.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: VEDMED on November 09, 2015, 07:54:30 AM
To bring this back quick, I'm a fan of "if the bloods are (relatively) good, and the gains are still coming, why end the cycle"

Just because I haven't found anything on the internet, anyone have any idea whether there's a time limit on caber use? The caber is the only thing keeping the nandro/tren sides at bay (and doing a Damn good job of it I might add)
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Jizmo on November 09, 2015, 08:36:24 AM
some people say dopamine agonists downregulate dopamine receptors over time
essentially making you depressive if you use them too long.

some people also claim DAs (more prami than caber though) make them behave mindlessly or compulsively. ive read reports about people developing compulsive gambling, cleptomania and other disorders while on pramipexole.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Mranabolic on November 09, 2015, 10:51:17 AM
Soon i will be on npp and tren :-) i am cuting now
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Mega Man on November 10, 2015, 07:17:47 AM
some people say dopamine agonists downregulate dopamine receptors over time
essentially making you depressive if you use them too long.

some people also claim DAs (more prami than caber though) make them behave mindlessly or compulsively. ive read reports about people developing compulsive gambling, cleptomania and other disorders while on pramipexole.

Well I didn't use pram just dostinex. It's a low dose twice a week. Also about down regulation..selegiline actually up regulates and make the receptors work better.
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: pestosterone on November 10, 2015, 12:22:53 PM
I use pramipexole for about 8 months  ??? Fuck
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: heenok on November 11, 2015, 02:14:54 AM
Well the good news is according to mega man you can now take meth to reset your dopamine receptors  :D
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: PizzaTrenSlin on May 15, 2016, 10:53:04 AM
Sorry to rebump an old thread....

In some week i will jump on TestE TrenA NPP Masteron train
I will use Letrozole as AI 5 mg a week. 4iu HGH Genlei.

How doses should be choosed?
I would like to stay ripped.. Atm i have a bit of water here and there after my cut and it's starting going away..

How can i stay ripped on a cycle like that? I have problems on finding Dostinex but have tons of silegiline at home.

How can i use Jumex (Siligiline)? I tried to take It before bed but had hard times sleeping and falling asleep..
Maybe dose was too high?
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Jizmo on May 16, 2016, 03:41:12 AM
5mg letro a week?

you dont seem to know what youre doing at all...
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Disco187 on May 16, 2016, 05:59:32 AM
I dunno, I like the high test with it. Been at 525 tren 525 npp and 750 test for about a week, I'm telling you I can feel it/see it already. I'm buying new shirts if this shit keeps up


OH yeah def i got xl t shirts to 4 xl all depending on my gear usage
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: PizzaTrenSlin on May 16, 2016, 06:27:53 AM
5mg letro a week?

you dont seem to know what youre doing at all...

I know it's a HUGE  DOSE of AI, atm i'm killing my gyno from previous blast... in 2 weeks it's near to zero now....
Maybe 2,5mg ew will be enough for this cycle.

Last time i tried a cycle like that but with Proviron instead of Masteron, as soon as i finished Proviron a lump appeared under my nipple. Was also on just 1 adex EW.
I'm pretty gyno prone, but this time i would like to not have gyno and keep raising AAS with time.

Jizmo if you have some advices just tell me nps.
Atm i'm cruising and cutting on just 300mg TestE :) i'm at 8% bf want to go to 6%..

Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Jizmo on May 16, 2016, 11:58:17 AM
man for 300mg test E you shouldnt need an AI at all... i would just run a SERM with it if youre gyno prone..
500mg test and higher you can run adex or letro at 0.25mg ed or 0.5mg ed
NO WAY you need 5mg letro a week for these dosages...
 letro is even stronger than adex and even 2.5mg letro a week should suffice for nearly EVERYONE for up to a gram of test...
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: pestosterone on May 16, 2016, 03:39:27 PM
Lol at 5mg letro a week wtf!!!

 I used to get and have gyno it's still there but was cause by superdrol...when inwas young and dumb taking get big quick pills.

I cruised for a while on test and ran aromasin or exemestane whatever u like u like to call it till it got undercontrol just bout 12.5s a day on 350 Testo. Now I don't use ai unless well over 500mgs test week. Gyno don't happen now to me. Btw if u trying to kill the gyno if I remember correctly u need to blast the letro like u are doing but need to be on the Ethiopian diet as they say and lean for it to go away.

Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: PizzaTrenSlin on May 16, 2016, 03:58:17 PM
Then for my next blast i will run just 2,5mg letro ew.

I will start on 150-300mg Test e 350mg Tren A NPP 350 Mast 350, 4iu hgh Genlei Jintropin, T3 50mcg.
Then i'll up the doses of Tren and/or Npp.

Now that i'm still cruising maybe I should do some experiments with Masteron P with 300mg Test E to see how it can remove water.
My Dexa Scan said 8% bf but i have a lot of bloat here and there :( it's so bad... it makes me feel 15%...

There was a post on GetBig where someone stated to be using even 1500mg Masteron ew and it's very good for water control, gyno etc.. ofc he said that you have to find your sweet spot, much will depend also on which other steroid you have in the cycle.

What do you think will be better?

P.S. will add also some 600mg potassium tabs to see if it's an electrolyte problem, atm i'm on Keto diet to cut the final 2%...
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: PizzaTrenSlin on May 16, 2016, 04:00:22 PM
Lol at 5mg letro a week wtf!!!

 I used to get and have gyno it's still there but was cause by superdrol...when inwas young and dumb taking get big quick pills.

I cruised for a while on test and ran aromasin or exemestane whatever u like u like to call it till it got undercontrol just bout 12.5s a day on 350 Testo. Now I don't use ai unless well over 500mgs test week. Gyno don't happen now to me. Btw if u trying to kill the gyno if I remember correctly u need to blast the letro like u are doing but need to be on the Ethiopian diet as they say and lean for it to go away.



Just pinned my Test E and took my last Letro pill. My gyno is dead. Completly.
Was lucky that i didn't crush E2, was reading that it's a miserable experience...
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: equipoise on May 16, 2016, 04:41:48 PM
man for 300mg test E you shouldnt need an AI at all... i would just run a SERM with it if youre gyno prone..
500mg test and higher you can run adex or letro at 0.25mg ed or 0.5mg ed
NO WAY you need 5mg letro a week for these dosages...
 letro is even stronger than adex and even 2.5mg letro a week should suffice for nearly EVERYONE for up to a gram of test...

eh some people aromatise more than others. On test prop 20mg a day (which is highish trt dose) me estro was a bit over the upper limit. A  bit weird given that I'm a natural lean twink
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: pestosterone on May 16, 2016, 04:46:00 PM
Just pinned my Test E and took my last Letro pill. My gyno is dead. Completly.
Was lucky that i didn't crush E2, was reading that it's a miserable experience...
Creep up on dosage from now on see what u can and can't get away with have ai near by
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: PizzaTrenSlin on May 17, 2016, 03:01:39 AM
In 3 weeks i would like to start Test Tren NPP Mast.

If i up TestE now it will take at least 2 weeks to stabilize or i will see in less time the E2 raising?
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: old-school-lifter on June 19, 2016, 09:34:15 PM
guys
plz excuse my ignorance

what is NPP?
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Jizmo on June 19, 2016, 10:10:12 PM
In 3 weeks i would like to start Test Tren NPP Mast.

If i up TestE now it will take at least 2 weeks to stabilize or i will see in less time the E2 raising?
estrogen will raise proportionally to testosterone, starts right after the first injection of course

guys
plz excuse my ignorance

what is NPP?
short ester deca
nandrolone phenylpropionate

Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: PizzaTrenSlin on June 20, 2016, 12:27:04 AM
NPP is really nice! If your diet is in check and you control E2 it will work wonders!
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: old-school-lifter on June 28, 2016, 09:43:57 PM
does NPP cause a lot of injxn pain?
Title: Re: Npp and tren a
Post by: Jizmo on June 29, 2016, 12:51:25 AM
does NPP cause a lot of injxn pain?
100mg/ml is usually pretty painless (not like test prop at all) any higher will give you issues